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bleue-flora · 3 months

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So while I’m all for drawing the conversation away from legality, trauma, innocence, bashing c!Tommy in the name of c!Dream lol….etc. I did basically write this essay about c!Tommy first and someone asked me to share, so I shall. @poisedava this is for you. ;) <3

Here’s the thing and this is important - it does not go both ways. If c!Tommy wants to be considered an innocent ‘child’, a teenager, a minor, who is too young and naive to know that what he does is wrong and how that hurts people and has consequences then he doesn’t just get to act like an adult and start wars, serve as a government official, build nations, torture, steal, murder, enslave, commit terrorism, blackmail, assassinate…etc and face no repercussions because ‘he didn’t know better.’ If you want to act like an adult then you’ll be treated as such.

Now I don’t believe that we should view the dsmp in the realm of irl crimes, since there is no legal system or set of rules in place in the dsmp (besides the ones c!Dream set and everyone breaks of course), but if ya’ll are going to say c!Dream deserves prison because of his ‘crimes’ and write off c!Tommy’s actions as less because he is a minor then I will look at it, especially because the term ‘minor’ is connected to the legal system of our world and that is where we are deriving this perceived innocence.

On that note, there are crimes in many countries that even if you’re a minor or a child you can be tried as an adult for reasons like a severe crime (for example first degree murder) and/or if it is a repeated offense despite disciplinary actions. In this case, both apply, as many of the things listed above are repeated abhorrent offenses. Secondly, the definition of ‘minor’ and the age of becoming an adult, while typically set at 18 is not universal. In Scotland for instance, 16 is the legal age of adulthood, which is how old c!Tommy was when he joined the smp.

But looking beyond legally speaking, I for one hardly consider 16 to be a child or an innocent naive minor in the first place. At 16 I could legally drive and drove me and my sister to school. I made sure people had what they needed to keep things from falling apart, whether that’s helping with grocery shopping, making dinner, running errands, helping with homework, making lunches… etc. I hardly think someone who drives is a child unable to face consequences like speedings, drinking and driving… etc. On the topic of age I would also like to highlight that the gap is like 5 years, which all things considered is not a very big gap, not to mention one of the reasons young people are considered irresponsible and given a bit of slack is because until the age of 25 your brain is still developing, and as c!Dream was also under the age of 25 that also applies to him and a huge portion of the server.

But being young doesn’t give you a free pass to do whatever you want and then complain about the consequences. You don’t get to just run a red light and kill kids crossing the road and claim innocence because you are a new driver. Because you are young, because you were distracted, because you were just trying to change the song and didn’t see them, because you didn't mean to. You are still responsible for killing people.

And if you don't want to be responsible, if you want to be treated like a child, then stay a child. But as a child you are not considered mature enough to know what is right from wrong, which is where guidance from guardians comes in. Children (really generally speaking), don’t know better, which is why they get grounded, spanked, their mouths washed out with soap, forced to write lines, get things taken away, time out, scolding… etc - punished. They are not free and independent to do what they like. Now obviously, when it comes to the dsmp there are really no such guardians or parents in charge of the minors, but the point still stands, if you do not understand your actions are wrong then someone should teach you and (whether you or not you agree with that) that is often through punishment.

Under that guise, c!Dream taking away c!Tommy’s discs for starting wars and breaking the rules and murdering him, is a form of parenting. (You can argue with whether you consider it good parenting… but that's not really the point). Even further, Exile then could be considered a more extreme form of time out and/or grounding, which is extreme because the violations are extreme. If you steal a cookie you are forced to go to your room for a bit, if you burn down the king’s house then you get exiled from the land. In Exile, he is forced to lose items which could be considered revoking privileges and getting his belongings taken away (like if your parents ever took your phone for a week). Hell, even hitting him with the axe could be seen as a super extreme spanking for not complying with his punishment. Now am I staying that makes it justified? Am I saying those were ok things to happen? Am I saying c!Tommy deserved being treated like that? No. Not really, I am just simply pointing out that in a world where the crime isn’t spray painting a building but burning said building down in an act of terrorism it almost makes sense in a twisted way that the punishments are more severe to fit the infraction.

(I would also like to point out that c!Phil has a moment with c!Tommy where he forced him to smelt stone and then destroy it over and over again and isn’t that kinda what c!Dream was doing in Exile?… just saying, not to say the behavior is right, just something I noticed and thought was interesting.) And the reason why the act of losing items is important is because a huge part of his character arc is surrounded by the value of objects and treating people like he treats objects. It was a big moment of deliberation for him to give up the discs for c!Tubbo’s life. Do you even realize how screwed up that is? A person over an object. But the thing is, somehow in c!Tommy’s mind those two things were synonymous, he was never there for c!Tubbo when c!Tubbo needed someone to have his back. When c!Tubbo goes to get revenge for his missing child and dead husband, he teams up with his literal worst enemies the people who took his canonical lives. Where was c!Tommy?… But whenever c!Tommy needed c!Tubbo to go after c!Dream or support him even with the things c!Tubbo disagreed with, he’s there. Honestly, he’s less of a best friend and more of a sword. The dsmp completes c!Tommy’s character arc by him giving up the discs for c!Tubbo’s life and to for once listen to c!Dream. His character arc, put very very simply, was valuing and treating people as people instead of things.

So the - it’s understandable, it’s less bad than what c!Dream did because he’s young and didn’t know better - is just not reasonable to me. Exile being used as justification isn’t really valid either. Ok so for a week, yea he was abused, he lost his things, people didn’t visit him, sure some were tricked into not visiting him, c!Dream took all of his items over and over, c!Dream hurt him when he did not comply, sure c!Tommy was suicidal as a result. But ya know, when no one else could be bothered to show up, c!Dream came by everyday. Plus abuse on the server is like scuffed so I hardly hold Exile as a gold standard for trauma like y’all I don’t know if I need to make a complication of how many times on the dsmp people hit each other with axes and hurt eachother or force eachother to comply or something. Or if I need to make a list of everytime c!Tommy has done worse even before Exile, but yeeeesh. Like don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying Exile was deserved, I don’t think anyone deserves abuse. Period. But on the scale of the dsmp and considering how many people he hurt and the circumstances that got him there, I find it hard to feel for him. And that’s coming from someone who (before medication) used to have panic attacks multiple times a week, who has been bullied, who has been isolated, who has been abandoned and betrayed by my best friends, who has been so so lonely, who has been suicidal, and who was a nasty person as a result of being hurt. So I get it, I really do. But to me it doesn’t really matter much, it doesn’t make him the hero, or redeemed, or innocence, or any more likable, especially when so many other characters on the dsmp have similar instances on their arcs.

And if we want to compare, c!Tommy’s ‘crimes’ to c!Dream’s because he’s ‘just as bad,’ the thing is, I’m not so sure that’s true, for many reasons. One of which is that c!Dream has really only ever reacted. Over and over he gets pushed into reacting, but usually he gives people a way out and he tries to do the better thing at first, but eventually after failing he turns towards the latter. While on the other hand, c!Tommy continues to provoke, over and over and over. Look no further than the finale where he shows up to the prison to assassinate c!Dream, after c!Dream literally hasn’t done anything to him since the prison break (unless you count c!Tommy and c!Wilbur breaking in… which again - provoke). And there really is no such transformation for c!Tommy, he doesn’t start off trying to do the right thing at all, which also brings us to motivation… which continues to baffle me, what is c!Tommy’s motivation? Because if it’s truly to have a home and be happy with his friends then why does he constantly do things that would jeopardize that?

So, you want me to feel bad for and root for someone - who often worked against their own stated motivation, who did drugs, tortured people, started wars, killed, enslaved, destroyed, used, stole, was sexist, xenophobic, disrespectful and constantly talked over people, who didn’t even have his friend’s back more importantly his best friend’s, c!Tubbo’s, back who continued to risk his life for c!Tommy’s schemes - because what? He is a minor? Because he was abused and suicidal after facing the consquences of his own actions? Because we get his pov? Because he declared himself the hero? Because c!Dream personally targeted him for no reason - because he’s so innocent and was no threat to c!Dream… after he literally KILLED HIM multiple times with much less armor, then with no armor at all (in one of the first streams)? …..…. Like heh?

Ah nah you’re so right… c!Dream definitely deserved prison - He killed c!Tommy after all!… in a war, where he was given a chance to surrender or face no mercy… in a fair dual, where he set the terms… in prison, where he provoked c!Dream, killed the cat c!Dream admitted to caring about all after c!Dream had been no doubt going insane from being isolated in prison for months already… I mean… come on, in no way do I see any of those as specifically targeting c!Tommy (don’t even get me started on the finale where he mentions Spirit just to piss c!Dream off).

And ya know, after saying all of that, I would even go as far as to say that c!Tommy is not a hero, nor even an anti-hero, since he is neither selfless, noble or full of goodness, which are some of the more fundamental qualities. In fact, Theseus, who c!Techno calls c!Tommy, is a Greek hero who in the beginning becomes infamous because he slays many savage murderers and monsters on his way to Athens. But I ask you, what savagery has c!Tommy stopped? What noble feats has he done for the sake of the safety of people?… He may be a protagonist, but honestly I don’t think he qualifies as a hero. Sure, both c!Dream and c!Techno’s reference Theseus, but they are really more highlighting the end of his life. Overall, I don’t think hero (even a flawed Greek one) is an adequate description for him. Perhaps anti-villain would be more fitting, a villain with some heroic traits?… I mean his most heroic moments are probably the duel, willing to fight in doomsday with or without help, and willing to be nuked, but like eh… the first two were over a piece of land, a country. It wasn’t about protecting people. I mean in both of those he was part of provoking the conflict in the first place, so is it heroic to help in a conflict that you helped cause? And in the last one, I mean it is the end of his arc so anti-villain technically still works for having a good selfless heroic moment at the end ;) ……

#ummm… welp don’t y’all just love me going off on Tommy XD lol… this was fun… >:) that boy is a menace lol #c!tommy #and the fact that cc!Tommy made a comment when watching the lore with Technodad about him thinking he was a good guy at the time #but now on retrospect him seeing that that wasn’t really the case is 10/10…#dsmp analysis #umm if I didn’t mention a point here it is probably in another post about Tommy like the one I posted recently…#c!dream #c!dream and c!tommy #did someone order an essay?#welp consider it delivered hope you enjoyed it #this is fine #dsmp #dream smp #dreblr #c!discduo #dsmpblr #c!tommyinnit #c!clingyduo #dsmp exile arc #dsmp finale #c!tubbo #ya know if Tommy has problems with treating people as items … that really is getting into anti social personality disorder…#probably a narcissist honestly…. yea that would probably be right… huh….#thanks to everyone who took the time read this <3 <3 <3 #did I bash tommy enough?…oooof… call a medic lol XD

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ohgaylor · 1 year

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exile, Taylor Swift // ceilings, Lizzy McAlpine // Drama Queen, Alessia Cara (all lyric connections)

#beep boop here’s another one #lyric*connections #exile #taylor swift #ceilings #lizzy mcalpine #drama queen #alessia cara #parallels #mine #folklore #five seconds flat #in the meantime

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gingerhastoomanyobsessions · 4 months

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for a webbed site that claims to love rehabilitative justice tumblr sure has a love of vengeance huh. somehow we’ve created a digital atmosphere where literal murder is less bad than (checks notes) not emerging from the womb with a perfectly calibrated moral compass and the Correct Political Opinions

I’ve seen people on here say that, not only can people Not Change, but that people who try to change are a) lying b) manipulative and c) undeserving of the chance to change. besties…becoming a better person isn’t about whether or not you deserve to become a better person, it’s not even about becoming 100% perfect, it’s about doing damage control after you realize you fucked up. like yeah people you’ve hurt aren’t obligated to like you/forgive you/interact with you, but tumblrites seem to think that anyone who’s ever made a serious mistake should be exiled from society and/or guillotined. we’ve gone from reasonable and correct takes about how people change (ex. “it’s not my responsibility to teach you”— yes! of course it shouldn’t be up to underprivileged random people on the internet to educate the uninformed!) to utterly deranged ones (ex. “nobody with privilege will ever realize that they’re doing harm and the ones who claim to be in the process of learning are just virtue signaling and should be punished for it”— a take I’ve seen applied to men learning about feminism, cishets becoming allies, white people learning about antiracism, relatives of shooters who go on to advocate for gun control, etc)

you do realize that people can genuinely change for the better, right? I’ve seen my parents un-transphobia themselves firsthand, going from thinking that my sibling came out “for attention” to wholeheartedly believing in trans rights. my grandma’s father was every kind of asshole imaginable and she grew up indoctrinated, but as an adult she broke away from him and has spent the rest of her life working on unlearning stuff. my cousin grew up in the rural south and parroted his rural southern dad’s opinions until he was thirteen and started actually thinking for himself, at which point he did a total 180 and is now studying history with a focus on the evolution of the rights of the underprivileged

so when I see people on here say that people shouldn’t change because they don’t deserve to change it rubs me the wrong way. cause at that point it sounds like you’d rather have that person stay harmful so you can stay mad at them, instead of letting them change and gaining yourself an ally. again, you don’t need to interact with them, but. at this point it kind of feels like you care more about hating The Oppressors than about protecting The Oppressed.

#also for the love of god this is about politics not fandom.#TO BE CLEAR I do also believe in rehabilitative justice for literal murder whenever possible as well.#i think that the vast majority of humans would be ok people if not for circumstances #(ex indoctrination trauma desperation externalized-self-hatred ignorance etc)#and that rehabilitation/change isn’t about whether or not you ‘deserve it’ but about whether or not you’re making an effort #because either we punish people for ever and ever Or we gain allies. and one option is more tangibly beneficial than the other #standard disclaimer: I am white and therefore probably verbalizing some of this in a wrong or questionable way and/or have holes in my logi #because I have blind spots due to privilege. I know. Nobody’s obligated to tell me where they are or how to fix them #but I don’t hold it against you if you read this and think ‘yikes. (x) sentiment is kind of questionable’ and inform me if you so choose #so long as you don’t literally want me exiled and/or dead it’s chill. to be clear. calling people out/pointing out bias is one thing #calling for their head on a platter is another

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peachyhoolagan · 7 months

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Ezra never would have left her.

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the-exiled-comic · 1 year

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#warriors #warrior cats #wc #oc #comic #page #the exiled #fishpaw #crowstar #petalsong #one thing after another sighs

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ladynicte · 1 year

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Been thinking a lot about Nico who obtains Godhood, through Will's eyes.

Will, who has always found that Nico and Percy share far more similarities than they realized, or wanted to realize.

Will who, of course, hadnt been there when it actually happened, but he had heard the story, he remembered it very well.

Percy Jackson had been offered inmortality, power, Godhood, by the Olympians, and he had turned it down. He had chosen Annabeth, and Camp, and humanity, instead of the Gods.

So, when Nico found himself in much the same predicament, with Hades offering him Godhood, already approved by the rest of the pantheon, Will had remained by, still, but not truly scared.

He had watched Nico receive the news, completely stunned, then slowly, turn to look at Will's face, just like Will had heard Percy had done with Annabeth.

Nico looked at him, like he was the only thing that existed, for only one minute, then Nico had given out his answer.

Nico looked away from Will.

Nico held out his hand, to grab his father's extended palm. He decidedly nodded.

A yes.

Will heard blood, and something else, that he should probably remember, he was supposed to be a doctor, be Nico's doctor, be with Nico, ringing in his hears, like static.

Nico had something to the effect of "Of course, Father." Followed by something else, about working together forever, a Lieutenant of something, helping Thanatos and Zagreus, Will barely recognized them.

Will just couldn't find it in himself to listen, couldn't find it in himself to understand anything.

Everything he knew: Is that now he had effectively lost Nico, for all of eternity, and all in the matter of a few minutes.

Later on, when the shock was finally, almost, wearing off, Will realized, he had had almost expected Nico to say no. Almost.

Just like Percy had said no, but the grand flaw in his reasoning, was that, at the end of the day, for all their similitudes and shared experiences, Percy and Nico were two fundamentally different people, down to their core.

Will wanted to laugh. They didn't even say goodbye.

#will solace #nico di angelo #god nico is something that can be so intimate actually to me #pjo #percy jackson #this turned into another one of these sorta mini fics that i write cuz I don't know how to shut up i almost left this one exiled on my #drafts forever but i liked it enough i suppose i will also free the juniper nico one someday #luna's headcanons #Luna Writes #solangelo #but tragic

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aeide-thea · 9 months

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sometimes it really is just like. is this all there is. feeling oversensitive & undersocialized—too sensitive to socialize—forever, bc you never got enough ~affirmation~ growing up (poor, pathetic baby; how long will you persist in singing the same self-pitying song…), & so never developed the proper emotional cushioning against the heartache & the thousand natural shocks, &c, &c, &c, &c, &c…

#like—you can't get close to people if you're too raw to bear the inevitable grit of misunderstandings and small incompatibilities #we all fail one another. sometimes in a myriad of small ways‚ sometimes in big ones—#sometimes you and people you care about are simultaneously failing each other on separate but parallel tracks #and ultimately you have to be able to bear that and keep reaching out to people anyway‚ as you hope they will to you #and i just. i need so badly for something—someone—to be new and good and an easy fit‚ because i haven't got trying in me #but also frankly i wouldn't trust anything like that if it appeared to me‚ at this point #molly grue voice how dare you come to me now &c #i'm a fussy person whose capacity for delight has drained away #and i think it's SO important to be kind and yet still so often i don't manage it #despite biting my tongue SO often that it hurts‚ which has taught me to feel there's nothing acceptable abt my own reactions #and i never MEAN to be pompous or dickish or whatever but caring about precision and conscientiousness and whatnot isn't in fashion #so i'm pretty sure that's how i come off to most people #and there's no prospect of anything changing and it's just like. sometimes in the night i think. well. i'm basically already dead then.#like. the last‚ i don't know‚ almost-decade at this point has been a slow painful process of sinking ever deeper into exile #stripping away various social positionalities and connections in trade for—nothing.#alien nation.#all the norms are shit but outside them—what is there.#anyway.#feelingsblogging

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banqanas · 5 hours

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Fantastics chant and Shota's keepsake

From: FANTASTICS 2017 musha shugyo

#fantastics from exile tribe #nakao shota #HBD SHOTAMAN #me waving my fist @ CL why havent u guys shared live reports from arena concert...!!!!!!#but yeah i love the fact that their pregame chant is also another one of shota's keepsake #banantls

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fideidefenswhore · 3 months

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i feel like they basically tried to transpose the storyline/dynamic btwn coa and mary boleyn from tobg in tsp (with coa and bessie blount) and realllly overdid what was already well-done and entertaining.

#im gonna be honest — pgreg has a way more entertaining style of writing than EF and who else was it . graham?#also had they stuck with that alba galocha would have done it MUCH better .#i mean same with tcp. if im being honest …#but the majority of the novel of tcp is her marriage with Arthur and they did noooot follow that model at all #hviii in that book is just the runner-up. he idolizes her but she doesn’t love him #it actually spoke well to the emotional truth of like ….#hviii’s pattern of idealization and devaluation #he did the same thing w / AB (she just wasn’t fortunate — relatively — enough to have the end be exile rather than execution )#also all these Seymour asks are making me think of boleyn counterfactuals which would diverge at that point instead ….#someone write that fanfic bcus i would read the hell out of it #(i kid . it already exists in variations and ive pretty much read all of them #it tends to be analogous to COA’s demotion as Princess of wales ; Anne’s in these fics is usually keeping the title marquess of pembroke)#eyyyye… would read another one tho #I’d be more interested in another epistolary one that has the remnants of the boleyn/howard party talking mad smack about the Seymours 😂#to like the resident French ambassador and such #much like the Aragonese / Marian party did re: the boleyn party to Chapuys

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adelacreations · 10 months

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*peeks in and sees the discourse*

Man can yall antis SHUT UP about Billy? And honestly Steve too, I'm taking him away and putting him on the high shelf.

"People are excusing his behaviour" MAN if you had an OUNCE of energy like this towards actual issues like idk the fucking Supreme Court, (the ukulele lady, yes I watched the video and yes I wanted to claw my eyes out) or actually supporting BIPOC in Fandom.

Shut up, yall are embarrassing. Why is it always the people in Fandom that don't create having the shittiest takes. Is that all you're good for? Nastiness? Pathetic.

#one anti is in their 30s #and another is 23 #making rape accusations about an actor they dont know or like #cause they dislike a character #you are an ADULT #AN ADULT why are you making these claims #also youre DAMN quick no one has contacted or even tried to get darce to see your nonsense #“billy stan” bitch shut up youre so annoying #annoying cockroach is what you are #steve and billy both had shit behaviour and they are both capable of change #shut the fuck up about if billy wanted to change or not #anyways back to self imposed exile #im doing better btw

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stellarstarryyy · 4 months

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this drawing is really old but idc I still like it

#my art #oc #oc art #oc artwork #digital art #artist #artists on tumblr #this is my character starrynight btw #I've had her for over 8 years now and she used to be a warrior cats oc #now shes an eldritch entity wrongly exiled bc of another eldritch entity's plot to frame her for a crime #not entirely sure what crime yet tho; im still figuring that one out lol

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fungh0uls · 2 months

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it’s cool to be interested in true crime and listen to podcasts/watch shows about it but thirsting after serial killers is a whole new low. Like actually what is wrong with you.

#🥩#like if you’re interested in LEARNING ABOUT IT that’s fine. but the second i see another one of you make an edit of a serial killer.. exile

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recitedemise · 5 months

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𝗚𝗮𝗹𝗲 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗮 𝗰𝗹𝗼𝘀𝗲𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗦𝗵𝗮𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘁, miss daughter of despair. I have a bias considering all I talked about with @nerimoi, but the idea of two wildly devoted followers being cast aside from their goddesses is niche. Of course, this is speaking to Shadowheart pursuing the exile route, but I have my thoughts about the Dark Justiciar angle, too. In the former, both she and Gale have a deep wanting and gnawing regret. Unlike the other members of the group, they actually love their authority figure, and being spurned from these beings that had both their hearts and bodies to is a severance that rocks them a tremendous deal. Lae'zel has allegiance to Vlaakith as well, of course, but while Vlaakith cruelly betrayed her loyalty, it was Gale and Shadowheart that felt the betrayers. They feel they deserve the silence. They both have to grow beyond the guilt. Together, they share this terrible thread of being the former, ill-fallen Chosen, and watching Shadowheart fight to learn how to pull from not the Shadow Weave, Gale sees himself fighting to cast with his Karsus orb.

But pursuing godhood? Well. Gale has the potential to feel he deserves more than he's ever gotten. From anyone. From Mystra. It's interesting, though. He, as a follower of Mystra, is supposed to be directly opposed to Shadowheart. However, after being so cruelly discarded, there is avenue for Gale to work perhaps in spite of Her--this evidenced when he proposes that he become a god. There, he expresses a want to better the world. He'd use magic in ways he was never once able to, harness power with heights beyond mortal reckoning, and he would reach his full potential just as he's always dreamed of--and, mind you, notably craved for. I remember the moon lantern, how Shadowheart had talked to Gale over it. He was hesitant, of course, knowing Mystra would forbade him from using that magic, but Shadowheart told him to cast away his reservations. Forget Mystra. This could be yours. Do as the Dark Lady bids. It's manipulative, yes, but it speaks to that side of Gale that quietly wants that magic. He knows what's allowed and what isn't under his faith, but he's still a man with a ravenous need for knowledge and more. With Shadowheart, Gale can be something impossibly disastrous. And what if Gale does attain godhood? What would Shadowheart do? There can only be one god as far she's concerned, but if Gale, in time, becomes warped with all that corruption-hunger... It's a brainworm. Maybe, just maybe, they can forge a despicable, sourly beneficial partnership.

Shadowheart, Ms. Dark as Their Nights, works curiously well with Mr. Magic and Stars.

#HEADCANON.#I am now writing out my thoughts about Gale with his Companions.#Shadow and Gale stood next to each other in any room at all: existing.#Everyone else: I don't trust this image.#Exile and non-god path they're drinking wine and exchanging stories and everyone's looking over at them.#Dark Justiciar and Godhood path is two buds who are causing marked distress in me.#I will write In Depth headcanons and explore character interactions with my mains and Sue's SH is simply first on the block what can I say.#I find it funny that the dark paths serves as the opposites for one another: Shadow growing more devoted to Shaar and Gale leaving Mystra #to become his own God.

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