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just-prime · 7 months
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8 : Oh so boring
The horrifying MCU-ification of the Star Wars universe is in horrific display as 8 episodes lead nowhere but setup.
Before I get to everything else, I do want to say, Ray Stevenson's passing is a true tragedy, and I appreciate the love and care he clearly put into his character. He was the only compelling one, and I shudder to think of how Disney will probably heartlessly recast.
Now, on to the episode
Well, all the leaks that said it was zombies were right, to the surprise of no one. This is the MCU now, we need something more than just a fuck ton of stormtroopers to blow through, we need an undead CGI army.
First off : The Jedi, The Witch, and The Warlord...FUCK OFF FILONI. YOU ARE NOT CUTE.
The show opens with the attempt to lull Legends fans back into a Sion reference for no reason. Also, Thrawn's super baggy pants seem unnecessary, especially since the design in Rebels always has him in perfectly tailored clothes. Nothing during his decade abroad that would have cause the pants to change that drastically, so it just feels like an unnecessary change that is not an attractive look :(
Morgan's power ups make no sense, and as soon as she got them she was going to die. Her eyes had me making a half dozen Supernatural jokes for obvious reasons. The whole "Blade of Talzin" thing is also very dumb given the fact that I assume Mother Talzin would have used every weapon in her arsenal to stop Grievous, and I would think a lightsaber proof sword is on that list.
The entire "Ezra makes himself a new lightsaber" scene filled me rage for a few reasons.
A) Ezra literally just turned down Sabine's offer of the lightsaber for the martial arts force powers which we never see him use again.
B) Huyang knowing about Caleb and Kanan being the same person feels kinda weird to me to be perfectly honest.
C) Ezra's new lightsaber is boring. Full stop. This is the kid who built a gun into his first one, it makes no sense that he'd make one that looks this mediocre.
D) All of Sabine's family dying horrible deaths on Mandalore has always struck me as a cop out. It's just lazy writing to isolate Sabine.
The Stakes
Spoiler alert : THERE ARE NONE
We knew this was going to end in a cliffhanger for a while now, which means none of the main cast was going to die. Morgan has always been a means to an end for Thrawn, not that her loyalty was ever explain...But none of our heroes were gonna bite it (regardless of how I hoped for Huyang to explode) so there were no stakes. Thrawn had to escape, despite the fact that he is weirdly shaken, so he does. Ezra had to get home, so he does. Sabine and Ahsoka are now trapped on some stupid Mortis world??? Okay, pause, I'm getting ahead of myself here...because before that...
Sabine has the Force now
My deepest condolences to anyone who is finding this out from me, but Sabine is offically confirmed and shown to be Force sensitive. Yes it is dumb. Yes it makes no sense. Yes this is something we all saw being foreshadowed from day one, unfortunately. Especially with the playing down of her Mandalorian-ness (she's constantly losing her helmet, her gun accuracy has utterly gone, she barely uses her gauntlets, etc etc) it was obvious that Filoni wanted to do with her, what he was too cowardly to do with Grogu.
Other miscellaneous shit
It turns out that Ahsoka's shuttle is Jedi era...which makes no fucking sense.
The nightsisters being totally on board with the Empire feels like their ability to tell what's going on in the main universe might be a bit sketchy do to the fact that they missed that the guy in charge of the Empire is the one who ordered Dathomir razzed.
100% of the problems that the gang run into would have been solved if Sabine had a fucking jetpack
They pull the "Thrawn knew Anakin" card out of nowhere in the dumbest possible way, which really just goes to show how much FIloni hates the new canon Thrawn books.
Chopper recognizes Ezra (which was rather cute) before Hera does, because he decides to show up on a New Republic cruiser in full Thrawn stormtrooper garb. Also we don't even get a hug between Hera and Ezra.
Shin (because she exists, remember?) who is also stranded now, goes and appears to be taking over the bandit camp we saw earlier. Have no idea where they are taking that...but honestly, good for Shin doing something for her, this seems like a selfcare move.
Now, the ending...Fucking Mortis
So, the final shot we get of Baylan, he is standing on a giant statue of The Father (there is a statue of The Son, and a destroyed statue of The Daughter) pointing out towards something on the horizon.
Back at the hermit crab people camp, Ahsoka and Sabine (and fucking Anakin's ghost, because that's right people, instead of hanging out with his son, Anakin has been just hovering over Ahsoka this whole time apparently) here this chirping, and it's a fucking creepy hyper realistic CGI Morai.
So yeah, that's clearly how all of the trapped characters are going to get off this planet...the World between Worlds. Now, this brings up a fuck ton more questions...Chief of all being how did Ezra not use this to escape years ago???
And I get that Mortis is not everybody's favorite Clone Wars arc. Which is fair. I don't hate it, but I never loved it, and Filoni dragging in the dumbest piece of Force lore that he created is infuriating. ESPECIALLY with this being so obviously aimed at those who've not watched Clone Wars or Rebels. I'm curious to see how much he immediately recons about it, given that it's been his go-to move since before even Mando s3...
I fear they're going to do something like "Bayan is The Father, Ahsoka is The Daughter, and Shin and Sabine have to fight over being The Son" or some stupid bullshit like that.
I'm glad this is the last Filoni property we're getting for a while, since I'm pretty sure he's not involved with Skeleton Crew at all writing-wise.
I am just so happy it's over!
In the meantime, if you are as annoyed at Filoni as I am, spite him by reading the new canon Thrawn books!!! They are really fantastic and give Thrawn a lot of facinating depth, along with having an incredible cast of side characters.
For those of you who are new or just finding me because of my Ahsoka rants, please stick around!!! I'm sure I will be having other annoyed Ahsoka thoughts in the weeks to come as I think back about the full series and about just everything that it's fucked up. Feel free to pop into my ask box if you're curious about my other Star Wars related opinions, I'm more than happy to answer, though know that for the majority of the recent shows, I do not look fondly.
But if you are looking for some vindication on not enjoying recent Star Wars things, then this is the blog for you!!!
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vinetae · 1 year
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Can we get a part two of my love? 😭❤️
A/n: Yes you can! Had to decide whether I wanted JK to care for Y/n or them both be sick together. Hope you like it! Thanks for the feedback <33
Warnings: Light makeouts, fluff, reflections on the confession, and more fluff. Y/n tasting like Jungkook's mother's chicken noodle soup lmao. Gross metions of sick symptoms (nasty coughs and detailed sneezes).
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"Son of a bi-"
sneeze
Your eyes were itchy and swollen, nose running faster than Niagara Falls, and body all achy and stiff. Thanks to Jungkook, you'd gotten sick two days after he had. Now here you lay, tangled up in his Matte black big comforter, with snot just oozing out both of your nostrils.
Your nose felt fuller than when you go to an all-you can-eat buffet. Nose felt more stuffed full than all the things the girls from high school whispered about you behind your back.
Nose feeling fuller than-
"You look so hot right now." Jungkook giggles, erupting into a nasty fit of phlegm filled coughs. His chest sounded more wet than he makes you.
and that's hard to beat.
Your head slowly swivels to the side, eyeing his delusional self in retort. "I am extremely hot. Your duvet is too fucking big."
His lips curve into a smirk as he reaches across to your side of the bed, blowing his nose into a once, pure white tissue. "That's what she sai-" More coughs to come.
It was like an episode of the Three Stooges. Dumb and Dumber. Super Troopers, and all of those stupidly comedic shows we all loved as a kid.
His black locks fall into view, as his hand runs along Bam's curved back. The small -big- puppy -dog- had hotdog-ed himself right in between the middle of you two, making it impossible to cuddle anymore. Who cared anyways? The last thing you wanted to do was-
"Jungkook.." Your eyes take to the right side, eyeing the small little tent caught between his legs. Your eyes roll. "Are you seriously hard right now?"
A small blush flushes his cheeks, lifting his knee up to make the errection a bit more concealed. His voice, tiny and guilt-traced. "Noooo.."
A chuckle erupts from your chest, finding this whole ironic situation one of the dumbest things you've ever done. You're probably wondering what happened after your little makeout-confess-sesh that you two had shared a few nights ago. well, it went a little something like-
"Fuck, you're so hot, baby-"
Your head lulls back, as his lips press open, heated kisses along the side of your neck. Hands traveling to the innards of your loose fitting Tee, while your hips bared down onto his. Bam had gone out of the room, to give you two some space. -He couldn't handle the bed shaking so much, poor little puppy-
Your fingertips trace along the roots of your scalp, nails lightly grazing as you press your forehead to his. Lips crashing into one another's like a crazy, unannounced storm in the middle of the ocean. All had been going well, until-
"aH CHOO-"
And that's how Jungkook ended up sneezing into your mouth. Pretty crazy -mostly nasty- huh? Yeah, you weren't so pleased either. I mean you've heard of rainbow kisses but not phlegm kisses. That's a new one, for sure.
Jungkook's fingertips extend out, tracing along the heated skin of your exposed thigh which had been using the cooling air as a sort of way to lower your body temperature. You groan, twisting over to the other side, not wanting to deal with his horny ass right now.
Right now, you just wanted to sleep.
But noooo.
This fucker had to go and get hard by you coughing.
"Babeee" He whines, chest still clogged from the infection you two are sharing. He's quick to shoo Bam to his own bed at the entrance of Jungkook's bedroom. The dog lazily rises, mouth hanging low from sleep still halfway controlling his movements. However, once he's gone, Jungkook's quick to take his place. Wrapping you up in his arms like a Christmas present.
You groan out, arms extending to try and pry yourself from his arms, as he's trailing light kisses along the straights of your neck. Moans eliciting from his chest, as his mouth moves downwards. He's quick to crawl on top, towering your body with his own, largely defined and built one.
Your hands push at his chest lazily. "I thought being sick lowers people's sex drive."
A tugs his lips, as his mouth collides onto yours, not giving a damn about your bad breath. Kissing you, had been like reward for him.
And he wanted first place.
Your conscious looses control, hands coiling around his neck to bring him in deeper. Tongues sharing a sloppy but romantic exchange in the midst of this sick fest.
Once you two pull away -both having a heaping cough exit- his head gently presses to your chest, as his body drapes over yours. The blanket you didn't know you always wanted.
"I'm sorry for getting you sick, baby." The tip of his index finger draws lazy figure-eights to your arm, using one of his many talents to create a piece only he could see. Spoiler Alert: It was of you.
Your arm slings around to catch his body in a loose hug before responding. The air-conditioner clunking in the background, as you two lay there, listening to the sounds of one another's heartbeats.
"You know.. if we hadn't gotten sick, would we have even gotten together in the first place?" His head raises at the question, thinking for a second.
"No, most definitely not." Your eyebrow quirks at his answer, body moving to prop up just a bit as you look down at him with a certain expression. One that had been a mix between hurt and confusion.
"Why.. not?"
A smile tugs the corners of his lips, before scooting on up to cover your entire body once more. Supporting his weight onto the faith he held in his greatly defined biceps. "Because you would've turned me down."
"What? No I would not."
He hums. "Mhm, you would've. You clam up when you get out on the spot."
"Psh, everyone does that." You push his body to the side, kicking the comforter away as a wave of sickly heat runs it's coarse through your body.
He twists to lay on his side, one arm supporting his head as he continues. "Yeah, but I saw you doing that little thing you do with the ring your mother got you."
"The spinning one?"
He nods.
"Hah, it's just a fidget." He scoots closer, lips, grazing across yours before backing you into an imaginary corner.
"Mhm, a nervous one."
Rolling your eyes, you push at his chest once more. A little nudge towards the way you wanted him to go. Changing the subject quickly. Today wasn't a -'let's get into past traumas' kinda day. Maybe another time.
"Yeah yeah, go brush your teeth. You taste like chicken soup." He chuckles, walking over to your side before scooping you up bridal style. His head nuzzles close to you, as he walks towards the bathroom, setting your bum to the counter.
Hands trapping you on both sides, as he leans in close, pressing a light peck to your nose tip, before exhaling a relieved breath.
"I'm so glad I got sick."
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lysteriaposts · 2 years
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COBRA KAI S5 REVIEW (unhinged vers.)
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SPOILER WARNING AS IF IT ISN'T CLEAR.
I actually wrote a list of my thoughts post episode 8, and oh it was not positive. Luckily enough a few of the things I was annoyed about were addressed the last two episodes where a lot happened. I've now slept on it and am ready to give a less rantsy review lol.... if you like to hype everything CK and only wanna hear positive things then I suggest you don't read further.
+ indicates positives (duh) and - negatives.
Let's rip the band aid off first.
- Mike Barnes being a wasted character and only there to subvert expectations (SAD!!!) - As a consequence, too many new characters brought in making the plot messier, crowded, contrived - Chozen being forced to like the girl he almost killed bc everyone needs to have a significant other / love interest of the opposite sex on this show - Kreese prison break is the dumbest shit I've ever seen - Kreese dying tragically in prison as he's trying to better himself would've been such a good writing choice, but they wanted to subvert that too - Kreese's plan he had with Tory never being explained - Johnny/Carmen baby drama making me want to barf all over my computer - Carmen being a baby carrier instead of an actual person - New gen kids serving no purpose in the overall story (except Kenny a little) - Rehashed plot of Sam/Miguel breakup taking up too much screentime and serving no purpose for the characters - Cheesy octopus < 🙄 - Half assed attempt at giving Sam introspection which gets dropped an episode after it was introduced - Sam being self absorbed (what's new) and deflecting blame - Demetri & Hawk could've been absent and there would not be any difference - Forced attempts at giving Hawk any relevance - Hawk being hypocritical and full of himself - Miguel's Mexico journey not changing anything for the character or his relationship with Johnny (or anyone for that matter) - Too little focus on Robby/Tory as a unit and their conflict - Too little focus on Robby/Kenny as a unit and their conflict - Robby redeeming and propping Johnny is not the same as developing and repairing their relationship, writers - Johnny kidnapping Robby to Mexico for absolutely no reason when he was gone tops 2 days - Carmen kind of forcing (and wanting!?!?) Johnny to have a baby with her - Johnny using new baby as an excuse for Miguel/Robby to have to get along - Robby breaking up with Tory after one disagreement - Robby going to see them at the Cobra Kai dojo way too late - Tory not confiding in Robby at all - Robby's character suffering from having to unnecessarily bond with every other character except the ones he truly cared about - Robby being forcefully sidelined in the story because he has to be attached at the hip with his new "family" - Tory ending up the show's punching bag, blamed and excluded for the 50th time - Devon Lee being... there, kind of annoying and one dimensional - Too much Kreese with no pay off - Too many flashbacks - No explanation to why Sam/Robby are cordial (I shouldn't be surprised they didn't explain Sam/Hawk either) - Stingray crying crocodile tears... actually just Stingray. - Sam being the one to wave her finger at Stingray wanting to keep his benefits (couldn't ANYONE ELSE have said that) - Silver not being the mastermind everybody expected him to be and mainly waving around his money - Amanda siding with Silver over her husband... dumb but ok - Jessica Andrews, just way too convenient - Kyler still being "one of the best" in Cobra Kai is laughable - Them trying to kill off Chozen, the only POC sensei - Them not having any balls to kill off any characters, but like to dangle it in front of us - Practically no Mike Barnes/Silver interactions
+ Very good fighting choreography + Cool shots and scenes i.e. Sam's dream, Miguel/Robby balcony fight 2.0 + Miguel/Robby relationship + Robby/Tory relationship (what we got) + Robby/Kenny relationship (what we got) + Kreese's therapy sessions (before it got subverted) + Miguel's scenes with his real dad + Johnny Lawrence comedy + Chozen... just, Chozen... seriously he might've carried the whole season for me + Chozen/Daniel relationship + Chozen/Johnny comparing notes lol + Daniel's arc and seeing him at his lowest + Anthony/Sam sibling bond + Little we got of Anthony/Chozen + Inverting Daniel and Johnny's "roles" + Daniel/Silver fights + Tory working as "undercover" instead of continuing to be "brainwashed" + Sam helping Tory although them coming together felt rushed + "I broke up with him for the dojo, you BITCH!" + Peyton List's acting + The new gen kids' acting + The Quicksilver method ! + Kenny/Silver scenes + Tory/Kreese scenes + More about Silver's background and ambitions + I don't blame Amanda for being done with Daniel's skeletons in his closet even though I called her dumb + Miguel speaking Spanish hehe + Chozen infiltrating CK was cool but should've been a full season thing- + Mike Barnes being the only og character not holding onto an old karate tournament, lol
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scurvyratt · 4 months
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Oz S1 E8: A Game of Checkers Live Reaction and Thoughts. As always my thoughts are not very profound lol
OKAYYYY this is the riot episode lets gooo
You know what's interesting is that in most media they use chess as a metaphor for life/whatever, but in Oz they use checkers instead. And checkers is kinda like the dumb mans chess (easier, less moves) so lol
Schillinger getting bullied by the other prisoners and his own sons lmaooo okayyy
"you lose an eye, you get kicked in the balls, you get a face full of shit,,, you become a different man" 😭
The birth of crazy Beecher
McManus would not survive one day in Em city like let's be real...
All I see when I look at Whittlesey is Carmela Soprano who is very mother to me. Like I kindaaaa dgaf about her
McManus is saurrr annoying I hate his bald incel ass😭
Rebadow backstory UNLOCKED... the way he stabbed someone then went to back to reading his newspaper lol he's so real
Some Miguel x Father Mukada realness... like what if they hid in the pod during the riot and kissed heh heh...
and the riot has started! All the Co's are in their flop era😭😭
I bet this episode was fun to film lol
Interesting how none of the muslims have their kufis on
Glynn is wearing an ugly ass vest I never noticed this before lol
Miguel asking to watch over the hostages----Re: MiguelXMukada
The way Idgaf about that cello player dude
Tobias spinning around in the background and doing fuck all while everyone is trying to organize the riot lmao
Mukada's haircut is uggo...
Said is power drunk omggg someone punch him or something
The way Adebisi doesn't hide his infatuation with Ryan😭like can you stop being a perv for one second omfg
Scott Ross fighting Kenny is so ijbol. Like why are you beefing with a little boy plz be serious
Does anyone else think that Miguel has a weird accent lol. I can't explain it exactly but I think he purposefully exaggerates it
The riot def establishes who (for the remainder of the series (or for as long as the character lasts)) has morals and who does not
Scott Ross is like weirdly taller than everyone lmao I notice it in every scene he's in
McManus hallucinating every inmate that has died under his watch... like girl just WAIT😭😭 there's gonna be a lot more where that came from... and you will NOT give af😭
Can I admit that McamnusXSaid is kinda my Oz crackship😭Like there's something there I think idk. But also their beef as a couple would be INSANEEEE
How are some of the dudes watching tv... I swear they smashed it when the riot started lol
NARRRR Adebisi took his little hat off. Put it back on neowwwww
Said is literally so funny when he shouts like what his problem actually. He needs a xanax I think
Adebisi backstory UNLOCKED
the National Guard is coming... the riot is about to end
Schillinger hiding in his pod when the National Guard started smoking the place💀
Okay episode over. Makes sense why they used checkers instead of chess now. Bcuz that riot was the messiest and dumbest thing that I've ever seen. Also the inmates had very limited options/moves (like in checkers!).
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wuxiaphoenix · 2 months
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On Writing: America’s Dumbest Inspirations
Okay, here’s a writing question for you: how do you write characters being stupid?
I’m not talking about your hero being up a week straight, wired on coffee, and bloodstream near totally adrenaline after the last monster attack so they miss things. That’s stress. Anybody can be stressed. Not anybody can be mind-numbingly, jaw-droppingly, oh-my-God-I’m-ashamed-to-be-the-same-species stupid.
And yet too many plots depend on someone grabbing the Idiot Ball out of - man, so many reasons. Greed, lust, envy, all the deadly sins are plausible. And yet. And yet.
Somehow, that just feels like... not painting the full colors of the human experience. Because a lot of the time people aren’t actively being evil when they do something dumb. They just didn’t think it through.
Really, really didn’t think it through. Like the guy who managed to fall down a trash compactor chute from the top of an apartment building, eleven stories over the course of several hours, winding up with casts everywhere... and then a few weeks later decides to get on a motorcycle to get around town. Still in all the casts. Resulting in losing control of the bike, being dragged along by part of the cast bandages, and beaten against the meridian so badly that without the preexisting casts he’d be dead. The emergency room doctor who saw him the second time was Not Amused.
Yes, I’m talking about America’s Dumbest Criminals. You can find all or most of it up free on YouTube, and I highly recommend it. A rewatch is never a waste of time, and if you’ve never seen it before... you’re in for a groaner of a treat. For example, Ep 4 has a bit of “Trial and Error” where the defense attorney is trying to say there’s no evidence linking his client to burglaries.
Prosecutor: “Your honor, my house was one of those burglarized. And the defendant is wearing my suit jacket!”
The grand fight of Good vs. Evil, self-discipline vs. our inherent sinful nature and selfish impulses, is always worth telling in stories. But if we want our worlds and stories to feel realistic, then sometimes your characters aren’t dealing with evil, or even someone actively opposing them. Sometimes there’s just someone who made one thoughtless decision too many, and you have to figure out whether to point and laugh, arrest them, or get out the fire extinguisher before things get worse.
It doesn’t have to be the main focus of the story. It could just be something happening in the background, or even a Noodle Incident. But if you want your readers to feel your story in their bones - well, everyone’s got a story about That One Idiot they had to handle, clean up after, or listen to everyone else rant about. Your characters should have one, too!
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America's Dumbest Criminals - Season 1, Episode 1 - Return to Cinder
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linawritesocs · 2 years
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𝐫𝐨𝐥𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐫𝐧'𝐬 𝐛𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐞𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐬𝐫 𝐯𝐢𝐠𝐧𝐞𝐭𝐭𝐞
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looks like this beach trip isn't gonna be so peaceful after all.. featuring @scarabiaa's dragon son and healer daughter!!
also, similar to my ghost marriage vignettes, these beach episode stories are all connected, excluding riley's one. so yeah, be prepared for allen's vignette <3
roland: "looks like everyone is having fun despite us being from rival schools."
roland: "i'm so glad that this beach trip is going well. i hope i made the right decision to bring everyone here."
roland: "this guy though.."
roland: "what was his name? ignite? ignite colet- no, that isn't right."
roland: "why should i care about his name anyway?"
roland: "he's having way too much fun. and also-"
meditrina: we're dating, we have an unfair advantage together.
roland: ".. he's dating meditrina-san."
roland: "why? why did she choose him?"
roland: "after all i did for her, after all we did together, she chose him instead."
roland: "why is she being so cruel? does she hate me?"
roland: "is it because of that one time i used my unique magic on her?"
roland: "i know that what i did was wrong and i don't deserve forgiveness, but.."
roland: "i love meditrina-san. she's everything to me. she reminds me so much of her.."
roland: "and i'm willing to do anything to make her love me. and i'm okay with using my unique magic, even though i hate it."
roland: "but it didn't work. so what should i do? what will make her fall in love with me? how can i make her break up with that guy?"
*flashback*
???: "don't you think she deserves better than ignis? you should make her believe that you're perfect for her! prove that you're smarter, stronger and simply better than ignis!"
???: "or you can just get rid of the competition.. if you know what i mean."
*flashback ends*
roland: ...
roland: "i can't believe that i have to take his advice."
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roland: "oh, looks like they're taking a break from their game."
roland: "ignite boy is all alone! now's a perfect chance for me to talk to him!"
roland: hey, ignite!~ it was so fun to watch you all play together!
ignis: ...
roland: oh, come on, don't be shy! yes, i'm from rsa, but we can still be friends!
ignis: .. i don't have anything against rsa students.
ignis: also, my name is ignis.
roland: i don't ca- ahem, sorry about that. it's a bit hard for me to remember nrc students' names.
roland: anyway, wanna get ice cream together? oh, i wonder what your favorite flavor could be!
ignis: i-i'm good. you can go without me.
roland: what did i tell you? don't be shy! i want to be friends with you, ignis!
ignis: .. i doubt it.
roland: huh? what did you just say?
ignis: *sighs* roland, i'm gonna be honest here. we both know that you don't want to be friends with me.
ignis: you look at me like i'm your arch-nemesis or something.
ignis: and yes, i can tell that even if you have only one eye visible!
roland: .. oh. well, i tried to be nice, but it looks like i don't have a choice.
roland: ignis, i have only one question to ask.
roland: why did meditrina-san choose you instead of me?
roland: i tried to act like a good person around her, i was nice to her, i was polite, i listened to her talk, i encouraged her to stop bottling up her feelings..
roland: SO WHY DID SHE CHOOSE YOU?
roland: you're literally the dumbest person i've ever met. and trust me, i've met a lot of dumb people, rsa is full of them.
roland: i wish i could say that your appearance is the only good thing about you, but we're basically twins. you're not that special.
roland: wait a minute, WE EVEN LOOK ALMOST THE SAME, BUT WHY DID SHE STILL CHOOSE YOU?
roland: is it because i have to wear an eyepatch? is it because of my horns?
roland: so why the-
*SLAP*
roland: ...
ignis: "why did she choose me?" honestly, sometimes i also ask myself the same question.
ignis: meditrina is amazing. she's smart, she's talented, she's capable of so many things..
ignis: but instead of asking that question, i decided to be grateful. i'm grateful for being chosen by her.
ignis: i don't know what i did, but i'm so happy to be her boyfriend and i love her with all my heart!..
ignis: but i know what i did NOT do. and i think that already makes me a better boyfriend than you.
ignis: at least i didn't make meditrina invisible to everyone for days, just to be able to do anything to her while people have no idea about what happened to her!
roland: ...
ignis: seriously, roland, what was going on in your head when you did that? did you really think meditrina would fall in love with you after that?
ignis: you made her invisible to all of us. we couldn't hear her voice. we couldn't even touch her. it was like she stopped existing for everyone but you.
ignis: how can you wonder why she didn't choose you after that??
roland: .. but that's how i express my love-
ignis: IT WASN'T LOVE, ROLAND! YOU JUST GOT OBSESSED WITH HER AND YOU ISOLATED HER FROM EVERYONE!
ignis: roland, i don't mind spending time with rsa students. i'm all for it, i think this school rivalry is stupid.
ignis: but please, i beg you, leave meditrina alone.
ignis: or i'll make you regret everything you did to her.
roland: .. okay, i promise i won't use my magic on her ever again.
ignis: i find it hard to believe-
roland: but what if i use my unique magic on you instead?
roland: what if i make everyone forget about you? what if i make you invisible to all of them, they won't be able to hear your screams, they won't be able to touch you too, so no matter how hard you try to hold meditrina-san's hand, she won't feel it.
meditrina: oh really? i can hold his hand easily right now.
roland and ignis: HUH?
ignis: you- you've been watching us the whole time?
meditrina: not just me. everyone saw you two and they heard every word you said.
meditrina: it looks like you should've used your unique magic earlier, roland.
roland: ...
rsa student a: is that the gardening club leader?
rsa student b: i knew that he was creepy, but that's a whole new level..
rsa student c: WHAT IF HE BROUGHT US ALL HERE TO KILL US??
roland: i- i can explain-
meditrina: let's go, ignis. i think it's better to leave him for now.
ignis: o-okay.
meditrina: it's good that he didn't hurt you. i don't think i brought any healing items with me.
ignis: i'm fine, don't worry about me, haha..
roland: listen, you all weren't supposed to hear this! can't we get at least some privacy?
rsa student a: i doubt that you'll be able to get any privacy after this.
*rsa students start to talk to each other*
roland: please, stop..
roland: CAN YOU ALL JUST SHUT UP FOR A SECOND?
rsa students: ...
roland: seriously, why all of you are so annoying.. i was right, rsa is full of dumb people.
roland: *goes away*
fake!jay: .. was that roland-senpai?
fake!jay: i can't believe it. is this really his true self?
fake!jay: what do you think, allen-senpai?
allen: *breathes heavily*
fake!jay: um, are you okay?
allen: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
allen: did you see that, jay-kun? did you see roland-senpai's true self? his horrible, selfish, beautiful self?
allen: i have to go and talk to him! i have so much i want to say!
allen: looks like i found myself an idol! i want to be like roland-senpai!
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zonerobotnik · 1 year
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Could I ask, don't you have any sense of humor? What do you have against satire and parodies?
You didn't watch the musical "Twisted" because you didn't want to know anything about Jafar's backstory, but that is just a parody, the whole show is just an over-the-top joke, nothing else. Jafar is not Jasmine's father, the Sultan is not a deranged pervert, the princess is not a spoiled teen and Alladin is not a sex obsessed man in his thirties who killed his parents. It's all just a joke, none of it is to be taken serious.
The same applies to the "Good Place", it's not supp to be taken seriously, it's a comedy, a large joke, nothing is supposed to be anything else.
Same with the Simpsons parody of Death Note, it's a joke, a parody, you don't have to act as if this is real, it's a cartoon show and nothing else.
Can't you just relax and laugh for once. None of these things are real, it's just satire, and satire can do everything.
Nobody has to laugh about everything, but you also don't need to take everything serious either.
Do they make it clear that it's a joke in "Twisted"? Is it not meant to be an actual, canon backstory like Maleficent and Cruella? Maybe I will check it out sometime, but I honestly just don't support these retconning backstories that try to make the bad guy sympathetic. That's why I refused to watch it. We don't need Cruella to have trauma from Dalmatians in particular for her to be an entitled rich woman that loves fur coats not used to being told "no" to go into a spiteful rage and steal the puppies she was refused. We don't need Maleficent, an all-powerful dark fairy sorceress to have a dramatic backstory with the King betraying her for her to be angry and feel insulted about being the only one in the Kingdom not invited to the Princess's birthday party and curse the baby, and we likewise don't need Jafar to have a dramatic backstory of abuse at the hands of the Sultan for him to look at the manchild on the throne and his headstrong daughter and think "We need a proper ruler".
I don't recall saying anything about "The Good Place but, if I did, it was a long time ago. A long, long time ago. As in, are you seriously digging into my past posts just to find something to yell at me for, long. I don't dislike "The Good Place", it's just not my cup of cocoa usually. I mostly watch it when my husband does. I AM warming up to it this second time watching it, though, and I'm curious how the show will end.
I. Love. Death Note. So, when The Simpsons advertises they are going to make an episode based on it, I am expecting more than TEN MINUTES OF NOPE. I don't normally care for The Simpsons, anyway, but they really baited us Death Note fans into checking out that one episode by doing a whole trailer for what WE thought was a full episode, only for them to waste our time with ten minutes of as much blood and gore as they could get away with and basically removing the whole reason that Kira was noticed for, his trademark heart attacks in people that would never have had them. I can't even say the outrageous ways she had people die was funny, because too many of them were impossible and the Death Note has the person only die of a heart attack if they try to do something impossible. It was, frankly, a slap in the face to the fans of Death Note in SO many ways, so I have no inclination to even laugh sarcastically. There was no actual reason for people to assume someone's dumb claim that it was not freak accidents but instead someone's work, because they didn't even have a theme or a pattern. She was just coming up with the dumbest ways for people to die and writing it down.
I HAVE a sense of humor. But, if it's something that really annoys me or pisses me off, I don't laugh. I scream. I can laugh at "Monty Python", and "Airplane" is funny at times, but "Naked Gun" is right out because I don't appreciate gratuitous sexual humor and the movie really wasn't my cup of cocoa otherwise.
I have nothing against satire and parodies themselves. And if "Twisted" is really just satire and NOT considered canon, then I will check it out. But I am sick and tired of these dramatic retconning backstories. The ONLY backstory of a Villain I want to see, honestly, is Ursula. She and Triton are supposed to be siblings, children of Poseidon, has she ALWAYS been an octopus or did she make herself that way? And where does her sister in the TLM2 come in?
I laugh when I feel the inclination. If it's something insulting to my intelligence or something I love, I don't laugh. If it's something that has something I hate, like pointless gore, I don't laugh. If it has too many pointless sexual jokes, I don't laugh. I prefer my shows to have a healthy balance of good traits and bad traits. If I am watching a show about someone's redemption story, I don't want to be watching a show where it's not just the main character that's an asshole, it's the whole town except for four decent people that get spat on by the plot repeatedly. That's not funny to me, that just makes me uncomfortable. If I am feeling uncomfortable, I am not laughing, I am wanting to get as far away from the situation as possible. It's the same with parodies and satire. Some of them are good and some of them are really, really bad.
Are my answers to your satisfaction?
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payidaresque · 2 years
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Exactly Eda messed up her whole show and we just weren't able to recover. I mean the show was salvaged by Ali at the end (so great full for him) but unfortunately she caused a lot of damage. It's common amongst Turkish shows that they all start off well but somewhere the writer just messes it all up. I've watched this happen countless of times unfortunately. Siyah beyaz ask, uckurus, erkenci kus, hercai and just so many other shows were ruined by dumb storylines.
It's a damn shame because with the right screenwriter I'm sure Aziz could have come back stronger. The highest ratings the show had was when Azef were getting closer so its not like the audience wasn't interested in the couple etc.
I definitely think they pulled the plug because Murat wasn't interested in the script. He is the show and losing him would mean the next season wouldn't survive anyway. You cant blame an established actor like him to go along with a dumb script. He already did it in season one 🤣
Lol I watched a few clips online of Damlas acting and honestly I wasn't amazed. There were also scenes in Aziz that I felt like she over did it or just cringe (lol I won't say which ones). I'm glad for one thing which is that Simay got the admiration she deserved for her role as Efnan. She was literally holding her own against legends such as Firat tenis (pierre) and obviously Murat.
Please don't apologise for being upset. Shows we love ending abruptly is always a tough thing to go through ❤️ and as much as it ended abruptly I think it would have been worse watching them ruin a beautiful couple in season 2 which seemed to be the plan.
I think the show was a good, strong adaptation with a solid story and good written backgrounds (except for Dilruba — that character was horrible and shallow from the very start with no actual puprose whatsoever besides getting Aziz back), MUCH BETTER than the original source (Poldark) which is a very rare thing to happen, JUST before Eda decided to pull her shit out while obviously being in a horrendous fever (no one in their right mind would wrote THAT... and everyone who approved that just as dumb and incomitent as she is). And DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON HERCAI, i personally think this is one of the dumbest shows i've ever seen AND YET it had the privilage of getting a proper ending and last for 3 fucking seasons (for whatever crazy reason there was). And then we have Aziz, that had every chance to become a hit IF it had the right people working on it, ending up like this. Do i think that's fair? HELL NO. Although i do believe ATV have different policy regarding cancelling a show so that played a huge part as well, but still
I really believe the ratings started dropping just as soon as Eda had A FUCKING GENIUS IDEA to make Adem & Dilruba live under the same roof with Azef and Dilruba making eyes at Aziz all the time and playing the victim. I seriously don't understand why would someone do that to their own show. Don't you want your work to suceed?
lol honestly, to me every 2nd scene with Dilruba was bad 💀 She was treated like a freaking ping-pong ball, swinging back and forth between trying to be a good person and a total bitch, and i don't get the reason behind it and i almost feel sorry that Damla had to play her, NO actor should ever be able to play such an awful character, even if your own abilities are far from extraordinary. Aziz was trully a time to shine for Simay, i really hope her career's gonna make big turns for good, she deserves it. Actually, i think Simay is the only one who actually benifited from the show in terms of career and is truly recognized now for her talent
I know it was better to end the show this way than watch it ruining itself with each new episode, it's the wasted potential that hurts me the most, so many questions left unanswered, and the characters didin't get a chance to truly grow (especially Efnan, Adem and Maksude) and fully demonstrate what they're capable of, and i will never forgive The Big Bosses for that. They all were treated so poorly, none of them deserve it. Especially when the bosses HAD every opportunity to make things right, they just slept on it on purpose
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"Raven got beaten up emotionally and physically" Damn... Is this some kind of weird tradition of Jatan to do this to Raven? because every season i read about Raven being beaten up , torture or something like that.
Don’t think about how every season a woman of color on this show is abused and this time beaten by a whiter-than-white blonder-than-blonde Viking-looking chick.  
And because Murphy and Emori questioned the ethics of her decision (it had to be done), and because it shows her being manipulative in order to get the vital, life-saving work done, we’re basically told that Raven’s beating was rightful. 
And, of course, there are no obvious consequences to anyone but Raven.
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whatudottu · 2 years
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Me: Andreas speaks in the third person a lot, and barely in second, what if Talpaedan’s don’t use pronouns at all?
Canon, in the first few seconds of Andreas’ introduction: Andreas using ‘i’ and ‘he’.
Canon, in ‘Andreas’ Fault’: Andreas using ‘you’.
Me:
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I am once again ignoring canon, this time for some slight (and slightly disconnected) culture building for Andreas.
Speaking in the third person, as far as media goes, is typically how to quickly identify the intelligence of a character… or lack there of in this case. Andreas of course is one example, but Rath does it too; as an appoplexian, apparently the dumbest sapient being in the universe, it’s all ‘Rath’ and ‘[insert full name and title here]’. But I’d thought it’d be cool if Talpaedan language either doesn’t care about gender at all or doesn’t replace names with pronouns to keep context like a steel trap.
And just because speaking third person is a naturally Talpaedan thing to do, doesn’t stop Andreas from keeping his himbo rights as a dumb brick of a man.
I believe the thought started out with a little hypothetical scenario- something something topic I don’t know, but essentially Andreas is talking to Bivalvan (including ‘you’s) and - being a user of pronouns gendered or otherwise, getting just a little uncomfortable with hearing his name repeated to death - Bivalvan states something about pronouns.
“What are ‘pronouns?” Comes the question, complemented with the tilt of the head and a twitch of the ears.
“…uhhhh.” Bivalvan stumbled in response, not expecting the confusion. Then things clicked, he and Andreas have to each their own native language, it’s just that Andreas has a few more differences to learn about English. “Pronouns replace names - of people, places, objects too.”
“So what are Bivalvan’s pronouns?”
“English doesn’t have an exact translation, but he/him’s the closest.”
“Is Andreas using…” He took a slow blink in thought, “…he/him’s pronouns right?”
“Oh- no- not quite- hah-“ Bivalvan tucked his beak under his top shell, imitating a smile. “We’ll work on that, yeah?”
It’s good for Andreas to learn in an environment of learners, because - even excluding gendered pronouns - English places a heavy emphasis on pronouns to just simplify sentences; remove redundancy or determining I vs you vs them or whatever. It’s probably not naturalistic for a language to have absolutely no pronouns (or just a significant lack of use for them)… for human languages-
Hah! I lured you into a false sense of security (again)! We’re doing bio-cultural headcanons too!
Now, I’m thinking since Talpaedans are made to burrow, there’s probably a litter of kids that may not need to be fully developed because ‘safety of underground’. Ever since I watched the… most recent Alien Biosphere episode (could change by the time I’ve posted vs when you read this), haplodiploidy has been bouncing around in my head.
For a little context, that word is used to describe how bee (and other colony insects) genetics work. It’s essentially where females have both the mother and father’s genes because something something fertilised egg, while males come from unfertilised eggs and therefore only have a genetic mother; they cannot genetically have fathers and sons, but they can have grandfathers and grandsons through their mothers and daughters.
It’s just one of those words that ‘y’all heard about haplodiploidy once and haven’t shut up since’ and the brainrot worsened when I connected the concept to Talpaedans and them like- having different construction machine arms (or limbs and maybe even more) based on genetics. And with that, and the multitudes of offspring (and an unspoken factor, the Slammoids, being a burrowing predator to help influence a fuck ton of children) suddenly I vs you vs them is very redundant and super unidentifiably unspecific.
So now instead of ‘he hit me’s and ‘she stole my lunch’es - where adults, adolescents and other kids don’t know which ‘he’, ‘she’ or ‘me’ and ‘my’ is being spoken about anymore - it becomes ‘Garlock hit Denali’ and ‘Eltanin stole Haiyuan’s lunch’. Here, everything is crystal clear- Garlock now has to go to time out, Denali might’ve gotten hurt bad, Eltanin isn’t having any supper and Haiyuan gets to have a little snack instead.
and yes i used fault line names to pick from- if andreas is just straight up andreas fault why can’t these kids be straight up too
So yeah! A little language headcanon with a little bit of a bio-cultural tangent, all because Andreas speaks in the third person a lot - using next to no pronouns - and I didn’t just want it to be writer shorthand for being stupid (even if he very much is a dumb brick of a man- or wait, does haplodiploidy affect that too? andreas with bee gender? andreas with ANT GENDER?).
A headcanon for another day.
and another alien to not technically go by he/him because of lack of gender knowledge
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nullio · 2 years
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My dumb Inside Job theories
♡Rand and JR definitely had some sort of romantic involvement. Weither it was a full fledged relationship or a one night stand/fling. There 100% something there
♡This is the dumbest I'll sound but I wonder if Rand can't say "Reagan, I'm proud of you" cause it'll trigger a sleeper agent type response. That sounds so dumb sos
♡In season 2/Part 2 the Gang is gonna break JR out of Shadow Prison X. I feel like it's either gonna be a half hour episode deal or a season finale 2 parter type thing
♡Were gonna see Brett's parents. I just,,,I'd really like too is all. Does this count as a theory?? Idk this post is getting away from me
♡Andre's upbringing involved verbal abuse/general yelling and shouting cause in ep9 (the mole ep) he covers his ears when JR is yelling at the gang. Also sometimes his body language is very curled in and protective
♡I'm gonna add more later. I'm tired rn lmao
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panncakes · 3 years
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blih ep 6 thoughts;
i think i could watch a full episode of them sitting on the swing refuses to acknowledge they both enjoyed sleeping together and then handing each other their preferred drinks and fondly smile
i love how yu zhen only freaks out when shi lei looks at him but before that he’s just amazed and awed; i also love how he just full yeets shi lei off the bed
the mom is my absolutely favourite; she’s so fun and sweet
teasing your not-bf with your mom-in-law over breakfast; it’s the small things 🥰
im glad at least one of the couples is communicating and moving things a long tbh; it’s 100% only because gang has all the braincells in this show; also what’s the deal with the other two at this point? they could honestly keep dating and i doubt yu zhen would notice because he’s only paying attention to shi lei anyway lmao
shi lei going ‘me hating yu zhen??? don’t know her’ because he liked snuggling with him so much? incredible. dumbest idiot. oh wait never mind yu zhen getting jealous over shi lei and the lady from the cafe literally just talking and then being petty about it afterwards? even dumber idiot. someone help them
the sharing a drink as a form of intimacy trope is so popular in these bls i can’t believe it took them so long to pull it out tbh
those fucking rules he’s so dumb you’re not even following them yourself you idiot why are you still pretending 😭
he gathered his nerve and straight up asked ‘do you want to sleep on the bed’ and shi lei thought he was using it as a diversion rip these two are never going to be able to communicate their feelings because they are both so dumb 😭
the unrestrained care and tenderness that comes out of shi lei when he’s not thinking but just going with what feels right; what a pure boy with a pure heart filled with love for yu zhen im upset
also?? is that an oh moment i see?? 👀 the start of a realisation for sure (finally)
‘then it’s over between us’????? hello?????!!!!
yu zhens face!!!!
i think shi leis brain is just actively hindering him now lmao; emotionally, instinctively, physically he seems to fully comprehend that they are basically dating already but his brain just can’t catch up. the baffoonery of it all
reverse oh moment where shi lei talks himself out of realising anything lmao it hurts
why are they so stupid!! someone help them!!
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peaceoutofthepieces · 3 years
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chapter 27
Fake Making-It
Social Media AU
previous chapter
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Lucas hesitates for only a moment before knocking on the door. He’s not expecting a response and isn’t surprised when he doesn’t get one. The bowl of ice cream he’s holding is beginning to freeze his hand, and he doesn’t quite have the patience necessary for this. He tries to keep his tone gentle, however, as he knocks once more and says, “Sander?” When there’s still nothing, he doesn’t bother knocking again. “I’m coming in, okay? So if you don’t want me to, speak up now.”
More silence. Lucas opens the door.
The room is dark, the curtains pulled in an attempt to block out the wintery sun. Some light still creeps through, making wispy shadows on the thin blue material. A few rays have also snuck in through the sides and the bottom, and it’s one of these that illuminates the lump on the bed, wrapped tightly in the duvet.
Lucas closes the door quietly behind him and approaches, and he can see a few tufts of white hair poking out from under the sheets. His heart throbs.
“That bad?” he questions lowly. He’s not even sure that Sander is awake.
After a moment, he receives a quiet, “No.”
“Will you look at me, then?”
“I can’t listen to you shout at me. Not right now.”
“I’m not going to shout at you,” Lucas mumbles. “Do you think that little of me?”
“No,” Sander repeats. “But of me.”
Lucas huffs. He considers, and then cradles the bowl carefully in his hands and clambers onto the empty side of the bed. The side he slept on, when they first arrived. He settles against the pillows and nestles the bowl on his lap, taking up one of the two spoons. “Okay. I guess I’m eating all the ice cream myself, then.”
It’s a cheap bribe that has only worked on very rare occasions, but this time it’s different. The offer isn’t just the food, but an olive branch.
Sander takes it tentatively. He lowers the covers and peeks at the bowl in Lucas’s hands before looking up at him.
Gesturing to the spare spoon, Lucas raises a brow.
Sander slowly—painstakingly—pushes himself up until he’s sitting next to him. He busies himself for a second with propping up his own pillow, and then he brushes a hand roughly through his hair in an attempt to comb it down. Then he takes the spare spoon and a dollop of chocolate ice cream.
“Is this your breakfast?” Lucas asks.
“It’s still early.”
Lucas sighs. “Not that early. I could make croques.”
Sander hesitates. “This is enough for now,” he murmurs.
It isn’t, but Lucas accepts this with a nod. They eat in silence for a moment, with Sander taking much smaller, slower bites than him.
“It’s not an episode,” Sander mumbles.
Lucas nods. “Okay,” he says simply.
“So you don’t have to freak out, or anything.”
Lucas raises a brow at him, swallowing a mouthful of ice cream. “Wasn’t planning on it.”
“And you don’t have to be nice to me if you don’t want to be. I don’t deserve it, anyway. I have royally fucked everything up.”
The admission is quiet, and not wrong. Lucas has been saying the same thing from the beginning, but it wasn’t quite as satisfying as he’d hoped when Sander came to the realisation himself. There’s no satisfaction in watching him now.
But then again, Lucas hasn’t really been feeling much satisfaction over anything.
He picks off another scoop of ice cream with his spoon, but leaves it in the bottom of the bowl, staring down at it before retracting his hand entirely. He understands, now more than ever. He wants to hide away in the dark, too. Away from the mess they’ve created and the lies choking him and the feelings swimming around in his chest.
“It’s not completely your fault, you know,” Lucas huffs. “I should’ve shut you down at the beginning, but I did the exact same thing as you. Jens asked me and I panicked. So really, he shares some of the blame.”
Sander snorts. Lucas tries not to be pleased by it. “But not you?” Sander raises a brow.
“Nope. I am an innocent victim.”
He’s aware this is very far from the truth, but he isn’t just going to admit it.
Then Sander’s face falls and he looks away again, shrinking down slightly. Lucas pokes at the ice cream again, hesitating, and then sets the bowl aside. He shifts around, stretching his legs for a second before turning his head. Giving Sander his full attention. It takes a little while for Sander to accept it, but then he looks at Lucas with resolve.
“I’m sorry. Seriously. I know you don’t like lying. And the fact that you’re actually friends with Jens now makes it even worse. I didn’t even think about what this would do to you and I’m so fucking sorry.”
It’s not that he hasn’t said it before. He’s said it countless times, in fact. But never has he sounded quite so sincere. Never has his voice broken over the words. Never has he looked this pleading, this wrecked by the chance that Lucas won’t accept his apologies.
Lucas considers him silently, then asks, “What’s it doing to you? What’s all this about?” He gestures at the room around them, and then Sander, even though Sander likely doesn’t need the explanation.
Sander huffs. Self-deprecating and derisive. “I think it’s embarrassment more than anything.”
“Over?”
“Do you want a list?”
“If that’s what you have.”
Sander has directed his gaze to the ceiling. He shakes his head slightly as he swallows. “The fact that I made such a stupid mistake by thinking Robbe had feelings for Jens. The even stupider mistake I made pretending we’re in a relationship. My gigantic mess of feelings for Robbe in general. Dragging you into it and making you hate me.”
“I don’t hate you,” Lucas argues. It’s only half a lie.
Sander seems to recognise this, lolling his head over and giving him a look or pure disbelief.
“I don’t like you very much right now,” Lucas allows, and Sander looks away. “But it’s you. I love you. Even though you are the dumbest asshole I know.”
This startles a laugh out of Sander. His shoulders shake with it, and he drags a hand down his face, and after a moment Lucas isn’t sure if he’s laughing or crying or performing a mixture of both. Either way, it’s infectious. Lucas cracks up with him, lips splitting into a smile involuntarily and letting laughter seep out. It seems to relax Sander, too, and he glances over at Lucas once more and laughs harder.
“We are so fucked,” Lucas sighs.
“So badly,” Sander agrees, shaking his head as he slumps back against his pillow. “Even if we managed to make the breakup thing convincing, it’d just be a bigger lie. Fuck.” He scrubs his hands over his face. “I’ve just screwed up any chance of Robbe ever actually returning my feelings, haven’t I?”
Lucas quickly bites back what he wants to say, which is you’re not the only one. Instead he looks away, down at his hands, and fiddles with his ring. Then he gives up and messes with his bracelet instead.
“Maybe we should just finish the job and go,” Sander says hollowly. “They’ll never have to know. They’ll never care. We can just get through this and then forget about it.”
“What?” Lucas whips his head around to look at him. “You can’t just forget about Robbe. I know you can’t.”
A part of Lucas jumps at the idea, urges him to agree, to say Sander has a point. They would never have to know. Lucas would never have to look them in the face and see the evidence of their betrayal. He would never have to withstand the disappointment. It’s a powerful desire, a flash of fire that putters out just as quickly and leaves behind a simmering pain.
He thinks of sticking around to finish the job, of sharing what he loves with Jens and talking with Jens almost everyday and having Jens look at him in the subtle way he does, intrigued and inspired and irritated all at once. He thinks about having that and then just...letting it go. Never knowing. Always pretending he never cared. Disappearing into thin air without being able to take even a trace of Jens with him.
And that small part of him, the analytical part of his brain, urges him to do it. Says it’s an easy way out and the best option he has.
His heart screams no.
He knows that Sander would never be able to just forget about Robbe. He knows. Now more than ever, he understands.
“We have to tell them,” Lucas whispers.
Sander looks at him, incredulous.
“It’s the only way,” Lucas insists. “When you think about it, chances are they won’t even care. They’ll think we’re dumb and weird as fuck, maybe, but they’ll accept that we panicked and then didn’t know how to explain. We don’t even have to tell them why.”
Sander shakes his head, licking his lips as his eyes flick down. “It’s not better. A half truth isn’t enough to make up for a lie like this. No, if we’re going to tell him, then I want to tell him the truth.”
“Okay. Then that’s what we’re doing,” Lucas decides. At Sander’s blatant terror, he adds, “You’ll never know if you don’t try.”
Sander sucks in a breath, then lets it out with a slow nod. “Okay.” He looks at Lucas again. “But I just...can you just give me a little time? Let me figure out how to tell him. Please.”
It’s the opposite of what Lucas wants, which is to go back in time to before any of this even happened. But he understands. He does. He understands, and he’s gotten more than he was expecting. Now that Sander has made such a promise, he won’t back out. They might as well drag it on a little longer. Another few days, or one more week, won’t be the end of the world.
Lucas could probably mostly avoid Jens for that time. He doesn’t have to do any more lying. Not really.
Then, well. Then he’ll see. If it can work out for Sander, maybe he’ll have a chance, too.
Lucas slides his arm around Sander’s shoulders and tugs him towards his chest, and Sander goes easily. He slumps into Lucas with what sounds like a sigh of relief, tucking his head into Lucas’s neck and sighing when Lucas presses a kiss to his hair.
“Okay. Deal.”
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cannotescape · 3 years
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Gretchen's experiment is unsociological, actually
I'll try to explain to the best of my ability why Gretchen's experiment feels so off. Spoilers: it's because it's dumb af and could never have happened in real life. Let's begin!
Before anything, I would like to state that yeah, I'm aware that Gretchen's experiment is meant to be flawed because she's a villain, and the show wants to drive the point home. Were there subtler ways to do it without making her completely idiotic? Maybe. But I would have accepted it if the show hadn't try to pass this experiment as sociological, when it just... isn't.
Why the experiment couldn't have happened in real life:
- the funding: it's well known: getting grants to fund your research project is hell, especially in humanities or social science, where private investors can't make money on your results lol. So Gretchen being able to conduct not one, but probably two experiments on an island? excuse me while I laugh
ok to be fair, the funding is kinda explained: she obviously managed to convince private investors (but even that isn't really explained yet like... what did she promise them? that the results would be good for them? that they could use the results for their own interest? <== all of these are unsociological. you can't predict the results and absolutely can't convince someone of what results you're gonna get before the experiment even starts wtf).
- the ethics: like we all know this shit isn't legal anyway, but let's pretend it is for a minute. Is it ethical? the answer couldn't be more obvious. Why is it important in the sociological field though? Ethics in science has been an ongoing issue: how to treat the test subjects obviously, but also how people could use the results your research produces (hi Oppenheimer!). Among social science and humanities disciplines, sociological studies (and psychological studies) are more likely to be unethical, because you're directly studying humans and human interactions.
More and more ethical committees are created in universities and you can be sure that Gretchen's experiment wouldn't have been approved (is it why she's been fired in the first place?). Actually, having Gretchen be independant from any university kinda helps to remove the ethical question from the equation: she doesn't have to be approved by her peers ==> she can do all the unethical shit she wants and hurts young girls. great.
That being said, and because sociological studies are at risk of being unethical, we learn pretty early on how to make our studies ethical. the first rule being: you have to inform the participants in the study that they're being studied lol. you can't just go behind their back and do everything you want. And yeah, it can make them more suspicious and their behavior may change, but if you're a good sociologist, this is something you can analyze! First rule of sociology: everything is worth noticing. And after a while (or if your poll has a lot of respondents), the discrepencies disappear anyway. Also a very important thing: as a researcher, you're not here to help people or make them feel better (or worse for that matter), you're here to observe and draw conclusions. You have to try and have as little influence on the experiment as possible.
obviously, Gretchen failed all those rules. The "they're on their own" speech doesn't hold up because she influenced the study from the start by choosing the girls, which leads us to...
- the sample: this is probably the dumbest thing in the experiment lmao. Because... what is Gretchen trying to prove? that women are essentially better rulers than men or can create a better society if they're left by themselves (feel free to correct me on this one. my brain mysteriously shut down each time Gretchen started to talk). For one, removing girls from a patriarchal society won't make them forget what's been ingrained in them for years and how society has built them to begin with. As teenage girls, the unsinkable 8 have already suffered from primary (their family) AND secondary socialization (school, friends etc.) Their behavior, personality and aspiration in life have been altered by society, and we actually see it in the show! Removing them now and acting like what they're doing is in no way linked to the way society shaped them is???? astounding.
Side note but a scientifically better (but even more horrific) experiment would have been a group of girls, separated from the rest of society at birth, with the unsinkable 8 as a group control.
Even more ridiculous than that: Gretchen is trying to prove this... with 8 american girls... who obviously haven't been chosen at random... like... there's no way a real sociologist would do this. We learn in first year that we need to choose our analysis tools and our samples based on what we want to analyze. You want to analyze how patriarchy affect women and want to universalize your result? You can't choose qualitative tools, you'll have to use quantitative analysis lmao. And with a big fucking sample at that, a sample chosen randomly to display sub-groups if you want it to be representative. I'm talking thousands of people if it's only US centric. 8 fucking girls lol, give me a break.
To be fair, qualitative and quantitative works often complete each other, but Gretchen never mentions any quantitative analysis so I will take this as just another proof of her incompetence.
- Gretchen's theory: her theory itself is unsociological. It sounds a lot like essentialism which is... the opposite of sociology. Sociologists try to find social explanations (and not psychological or biophysical reasons) to an event or a behavior.
As stated, sociologists rarely try to prove things. They observe a phenomenon and ask themselves what could have caused it. One of the first things to do before a study is actually listing all the biases you could have about the subject (Durkheim's "prénotions") and letting them go or at least be aware of them so it won't hinder the results you could potentially find. The observation must be as impartial and non-judgemental as possible. In the show, Gretchen's prénotions are in full play: we live in a patriarchal society (this one is true, but you have to question it all the same), and women are better leaders than men. ==> unsociological
Again, I would have found the experiment part annoying but wouldn't have complained too much if the writers hadn't made it clear that they were trying to portray a sociological experiment lol. It was confirmed in an interview and the "field notes" are pretty telling. Actually, the field notes are a better sociological study than Gretchen's experiment, how sad. Beyond that, the method used by the characters in the show is also inspired by the sociological method:
- (so called) passive observation with the team watching and monitoring the girls from afar (but the team is still interfering so...)
- direct participative observation in Jeanette's case: you observe and take field notes while being immersed in the subjects' environement. Nora is doing this too actually: she's writing clear social facts in her notebook. "No one's cried for a while. No one even seems that afraid anymore. Still, it's been healing for some." This is sociological
- semi structured interviews in the bunker. They're probably the most sociological part of the experiment tbh. Ironic considering Faber is a psychologist but whatever. Toni's interview is the most representative of what a semi structured sociological interview looks like: the non-judgemental questions ("Why does seeing that make you smile?"), the follow-ups when the answer is unclear or could be more precise ("I'm wondering if you can expand on "cocktease"?"), the specific questions on what a subject thinks of a specific event and why they're thinking it in the first place without making assumptions ("Were any of you alarmed by Leah's behavior?"). It doesn't last long. When Toni answers evasively and doesn't cooperate, Faber drops the sociology charade: "It sounds to me like it was a pretty unsettling loss of control" lololol. neutrality who? You can also point out that something the subject said is at odds with something usually accepted, to better understand how they justify it (like when Faber says that Toni's "alone is safer" is not "the conventional wisdom"). All of this is sociological. Too bad the experiment is not. This interview is also a far cry from what Faber is doing to Leah in episode 6 (and there's 0 value to the "data" he pulled actually, sorry Gretchen).
- the fucking control group. It is a sociological tool. I know for a fact it won't be used well, for the same reasons the sample was a joke.
I don't know, I find it frustrating that the show is clearly trying to show Gretchen's experiment as flawed, while keeping a veneer of scientificity to hide behind. Gretchen is not, and could never be a sociologist,.
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Tangled Salt Marathon - Rapunzeltopia
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This episode, much like many other plot important episodes of the first two seasons, is decent on it its own, but becomes retroactively worse due to season three’s bad writing and behind the scenes bullshit. 
Summary:  Matthews reveals himself as another dark spirit and disciple of Zhan Tiri, and traps Eugene, Lance and the others in unbreakable vines similar to the Great Tree's evil magic. He has Rapunzel live the perfect life while he prepares to hand over the mystical powers of the Sundrop to his master. Fortunately, Rapunzel is able to make contact with her brown-haired dream self and attempts to convince her to let go. 
Timeline Alert
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So what does almost a year ago mean? The Great Tree was six months out, and then in Mirror, Mirror, Lance said that they been fighting for three weeks since. So how long have then been stuck in this shell house? Because You’re Kidding Me was just the next day after Mirror, Mirror. Was Lance’s ‘three weeks’ comment meant to be after Brothers Hooks and Rapunzel: Day One and not Great Tree? Are we 7, 8, 9, or 10 months out from Secret of the Sundrop? Like be clear about your time frame guys if you’re going to use it as a plot point. 
I’m going to say we are 9 months along on this trip, just cause that sounds closer to ‘almost a year ago’ without keeping them all trapped in the shell house for months. So Great Tree is 6 months, Brother’s Hook and Rapunzel Day One is 7 months, Mirror, Mirror is going on 8 months, and at the end of this episode they’ll be heading into the 9 month period...I guess. Lets just say they were trapped there for a week or two. 
This Episode Only Highlights How Self Centered and Immature Rapunzel Still Is Rather Than Showcase How Much She’s Grown 
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The point behind this episode is show how much Rapunzel has grown since season one, and how she is accepting of responsibility now, but it actually backfires because she’s not actually being challenged on her selfish desires but on her lack of agency. Which is the wrong lesson that she needs to be learning at this point in her development.
Rapunzel in her subconscious mind doesn’t wish for what’s best for other people but what’s best for herself. People she must interact with on the regular have to be superficially happy even if it completely warps their character. While people she doesn't care about, like Lady Caine, can just be simply banished and ignored regardless if they deserve such an end or not.  She doesn’t see people as people with individual thoughts and feelings, but as satellites to herself and her narrow worldview.  
 Also, ‘I believe everyone deserves a second chance’ my eye! Caine never gets even a first chance in Rapunzel’s own fantasy world. Because Rapunzel is a selfish hypocrite who’s ‘redemptions’ always comes with strings attached. 
Here Comes the Dumbest Plot Point In the Show
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I’ll talk about this more when we get to season three, but this scene is the beginning of the end for any dignity the show once held. 
Also why would ‘I don’t trust anyone’ Cassandra follow a creepy voice calling her name through a doorway inside a magic house that’s tried to kill her twice now? 
If you gotta make you character act out of character in order to get your plot rolling than you haven’t a good plot. Think of something else. 
What’s the Point of Having Two Names? 
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They did this both with Sugarbee and Matthews here and it makes zero sense. Why would they need to bother with fake names if the heroes wouldn’t even recognize their real names to begin with? Such revelations add nothing and fails to tell the audience anything new about the characters.  It’s also not consistent as it turns out Gothel was a disciple too and she only gets one name, so what gives? 
So How Does This All Work Again?
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So Zhan Tiri needs ‘a clash of the sundrop and moonstone’ in order to be freed from her prison. Why? I don’t know, but holding Rapunzel prisoner for life actually undermines that plan, and it’s a plan that Zhan Tiri is currently setting up with Cassandra off screen during all of this. 
So does Tromus/Matthews just not know that Zhan Tiri is already ‘free’ and has her own plans?
Is Rapunzel’s power being drained what gives Zhan Tiri a foothold in the real world?
Or was Zhan Tiri released back in the Great Tree with the removal of the spear and that’s why she knows to go after Cass? 
What was up with the Great Tree and the sealed tree back in Painter’s Block? Did they have any impact on Zhan Tiri’s plans?  
Were any of the disciples actually useful at all? 
So What Do the Disciples Gain From All This?
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Sugarbee, Matthews, and Gothel were all once real people who actually lived so what are their reasons for following Zhan Tiri? What do they gain from going through such complicated plans? Why continue to follow someone after you’ve been dead for centuries and are a ghost now, and were presumably trapped and or killed by Demantius for following her? Real people don’t just hold on to such fanatical devotion without reason. 
This Conflict Over Choices Does Not Work Without Varian
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Going back to how this episode fails to develop Rapunzel; it wants to have Rapunzel take responsibility for difficult choices, but much like Painters Block, it completely ignores her biggest fuck up thereby undermining why she has trouble with owning up to hard choices.  
Rapunzel ruined a child’s life. She may not have meant to but she did, and thus far she has done nothing to make amends for it. She’s not even spared the poor boy a single thought beyond seeing him as the boogeyman in a nightmare once. 
You can’t have Rapunzel take responsibility for anything if you won’t hold her accountable for anything.  
Varian was meant to appear in this episode, and indeed he should have for the above reason. 
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But of course Chris had to give us a bullshit excuse for why he cut the most plot important character from the series. 
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I’ve already spoken about how Varian’s cameo in Happiness Is did nothing to actually further develop Rapunzel nor explore her guilt back in that review. In this episode, however, I want to discuss how hollow the comparisons to Gothel is and why there shouldn’t logically have been any competition between the two. 
Varian and Gothel provide two completely different conflicts and two completely different points of development for Rapunzel’s arc. Gothel is the instigator of her conflict with Rapunzel. Rapunzel, as the victim, has only one thing to learn, self esteem. She learned it back in the movie, she relearned it back in the season one, and here she’s re-contextualizing it for this episode’s mini-arc. 
Meanwhile Rapunzel is the instigator of her conflict with Varian. She’s the one with the power in their relationship and her choices matter. She doesn’t need to learn agency because she already has it. What she needs to learn is responsibility and she can’t do that without confronting Varian and what she did in some manner. So unlike with Gothel there only new ground to cover here rather than rehashing old conflicts. 
Chris Sonnenburg has things all backwards. Rapunzel’s agency/self-esteem issues and her need to take responsibility for her actions are not interchangeable conflicts. Addressing one does not automatically address the other, and of the two her conflict with responsibility holds more weight because it’s ongoing. We haven’t seen the resolvement there. It also affects more people than just herself so the stakes are higher there as well. And to top it all off, it fits with the themes of the episode better. 
Also, you very much could have had both characters because they both reflect different conflicts and serve different purposes in the narrative. Time management in television is a very big deal yes, but you have little grounds for defense when all you’ve shown is how poorly you’ve managed your time until now. 
In short, Chris is full of shit. 
No, It Wouldn’t
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We’ve already established that there’s no need for Rapunzel to go on her quest in season two. The black rocks are inactive, there’s no ticking clock she has to beat, and her staying at home would have actually prevented the conflicts in season three. 
Unless dream Rapunzel is referring to Zhan Tiri being released, but even that is false because Zhan Tiri is already floating around a little blue ghost girl off screen right now. What Rapunzel choses or chooses not to do does not change that. 
Lack of external conflict undermines internal conflict.  
Just Cause You Make A Meta Joke About Your Heroes Being Dumb For No Reason, Does Not Make Them Any Less Stupid 
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Jokingly admitting a fault in your writing doesn’t not excuse that fault. If you can’t have a plot without handing the idiot ball to your characters than you haven’t a good plot. Time to go back to drawing board. 
Season Three Will Go Back On This Episode’s Message and Prove the Villian Right
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I’ve liget seen fans unironically praise the show for it’s message of ‘be content with what you have’. Not only is that a terrible lesson to teach children; it’s actually the exact opposite of what the show is trying to achieve.
“Be satisfied” is suppose to be the wrong motto. Rapunzel is suppose to be fighting against this message. In the episode itself it’s the villian who is saying such things in order to tempt her to stay put. 
So how could anyone look at the show as a whole and come away with idea that the one off villain was right along? 
Because season three does a complete 180 away from its original messages regarding agency and responsibility. All consequences disappear from the story and the mains are given convenient scapegoats to distract from their decisions. Characters actively regress and are rewarded by the narrative for either not doing anything or for victim blaming others for their actions. 
But most damaging of all is the fact that nearly everyone winds up back where they started out at, or aren’t given a proper ending at all. Tangled’s story is just one giant circle and that in of itself contradicts the idea of progress.  
Cassandra’s Hurt Hand Is Only Relevant When The Story Wants Rapunzel to Feel Guilty About Something  
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Oh but we can just throw Cassandra’s burnt hand in here as a substitute Rapunzel’s guilt over Varian. Even though the two incidents should actually complement one another rather than compete for dominance. 
Tangled doesn’t trust its audience to remember things. It acts like if it’s off screen or not being focused upon than it’s not happening or isn’t relevant. This undermines any ongoing or overarching conflicts.  
Why should we care about Cassandra’s arm if she’s been shown as being fine with it for four episodes by now? Especially since it’ll never come up again after this point? And on the flip side of things, why should the audience not care about the 15 year old who has been sitting in a dungeon for almost a year now due to Rapunzel’s neglect?  
We’re not magpies who are quickly distracted by shiny new things. We are capable of retaining information and informing decisions based off of that. Especially if Chris was shooting for the teen audience as he claims he was. 
Oh But We Got Time For Godzilla-Pascal 
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Can’t spare even half a minute for a Varian cameo that would be relevant, but we sure got time to waste on a pointless action sequence that does nothing to further the character in what is meant to be a character development episode. 
This Scene Is Out of Character 
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That’s not how abuse works! 
The whole reason why Gothel was able to keep Rapunzel under her thumb for 18 years because Rapunzel always sought her approval. Never at any point, even when finally choosing to break away from her in the movie, did Rapunzel wish to harm the woman. That goes against who she is as a character and it’s not how abuse victims respond to abusers even after cutting things off with them. 
If anything, Rapunzel’s treatment of Frederic in Happiness Is is more in line with how a victim goes about mourning the loss of an abusive relationship. Victims grieve for what might have been. Victims mourn the loss of what good times they had with their abusers, because yes, abusers aren’t abusive 100% of the time 24/7. They can’t be or they risk losing their victim quicker.  
I initially was ok with flashbacks to Gothel on occasion because no victim ever makes a completely clean break from their abuser. Even ‘moving on’ isn’t some triumphant singular action when you stand tall while you knock your opponent down in a wish fulfilment fantasy.
No. ‘Moving on’ is slow. It’s understated. It’s routine. It’s about being able to do the dishes without getting triggered. It’s sitting at lunch with friends and being happy and calm without the fear of returning home hanging over your head. It’s not skipping out on work because your anxiety is through the roof over just meeting with your boss. It’s not devolving into a yelling match over something minor because you internalize your abusers behavior.  
Abuse victims don’t celebrate violence as strength. We celebrate being an unmovable mountain of clam fortitude. Being in control even as the world rages at us, because we’re self assured. 
The fact that this scene exists, while Happiness Is shows Rapunzel behaving the opposite way to the father who abused her the same as Gothel did, only proves that a man shouldn’t have been in charge of this show. Certainly not without a woman by his side giving equal input. 
Stop Using Destiny as a Shorthand for Everything!
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Destiny isn’t a catch all word that can mean whatever you want it to. Words have definitions for a reason. Destiny isn’t a goal nor does it equate to agency and responsibility; kind of the opposite in fact. 
Well That Was Redundant
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All we did was rehash Rapunzel’s season one arc in under half in hour. Nothing new was learned. It’s like writers don’t know how to resolve any conflict that isn’t a repeat of the first movie. Meanwhile actual unique conflicts are just sitting off to the side being ignored. All because the show’s creator doesn’t want to hold his precious self insert accountable for anything. 
Bye Bye Smart Cass, Hello Dumb Cass
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So from this point onward the Cass we’ve known for nearly two seasons is gone. She’s just been replaced by the dumbest bitch on the planet. Because the writers don’t understand how manipulation and trauma actually works. Nor do they comprehend the importance of giving characters actual goals.  
Conclusion 
Season three is what retroactively spoils this episode. Cass’s dumb decision here, Zhan Tiri’s lack of a coherent plan, the uselessness of the disciples, and even the lack of Varian could have been glossed over had they writers given us a satisfying pay offs for any of the main conflicts. But they didn’t and so here we are. 
Also a small update, but after this review and starting next week, the Salt Marathon will go from bi weekly updates to only one a week. This is a combination of real life work getting in the way and the growing length of the reviews. This means we’ll hopefully be done come March, which would mark the show’s anniversary. I got some plans to celebrate if that works out. 
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