#online harrassment

[hussyknee]

One thing you have to remember is that online queer discourse doesn't make a damn bit of difference to systemic queerphobia irl or LGBT rights. No amount of playing respectability politics by identifying the "real freaks" will ever lead to sexual emancipation or prevent sexual violence. No amount of trying to identify and cast out "oppressors" and "infiltrators" will ever make homophobes and transphobes respect the sanctity of your sexual identity. Not letting people have words and flags and colours is absolutely nothing except a weapon for online harrassment and clout-chasing wielded by white and Western weirdos who've drunk the colonizer Kool-Aid.

#queer discourse #gatekeeping #bi lesbian #pan lesbian #pansexuality #aphobia #arophobia #transandrophobia #mspec lesbian #online harrassment #respectability politics #purity culture #kinkphobia #western leftists #white queers #anti radfem #lgbtqia #knee of huss

[bravecrab]

I think it's important to look at the Girlfriend Reviews incident of the Hogwarts Legacy response, because even if it's just a case of lack of awareness of some Youtubers, the way that they're being used is insidious.

So from what I've seen is that they tried to stream Hogwarts Legacy, a section of their fanbase expressed their disappointment mainly via messages they were unfollowing/unsubscribing, Shelby got upset and tearfully took a break, but they still streamed for 6 hours after. Since then the story has been used to label those opposed to Hogwarts Legacy as abusive towards Girlfriend Reviews and other streamers.

If there is any screenshots of the abusive language in their chat, please let me know, as further evidence is always appreciated.

I do think that Girlfriend Reviews were mostly naive, thinking that donating to the Trevor Project would be a reasonable counterbalance for their discretion, however that action is also telling that they knew that playing the game would result in some backlash. They're no strangers to backlash, as they did receive previous harrassment when they played The Last Of Us Part 2. They should be aware by now, how politics and video games interact.

I think when they got harrassed for TLOU2, there was more of a dismissive attitude of "people getting too upset over a game", rather than a culture of misogyny in video games and that culture lashing out due to a sense of entitlement. And perhaps Girlfriend Reviews thought that HL was more of the same, but it's not and to act like it is, is just being ignorant of systems of power.

But this isn't just about these youtubers. Shelby's tears are being manipulated by bad actors as White Women's Tears. If you're unaware of the term, WWTs is a common framing tactic that has been used, mostly for anti-black purposes, for a long time. It's used to justify continued oppression against marginalized groups by saying "Look how they've hurt the feelings of this symbol of innocence". White women have often been used as a tool within white supremacist, patriarchal societies, as something to be protected from the influence and existence of The Other. White Women's Tears are most notable in the case of Emmett Till.

I'm not saying that Shelby was aware of this when she cried, or that she faked crying. What I am saying is that the sort of folk who harrassed Girlfriend Reviews for playing TLOU2, are the sort of people who are now using the image of her crying to punch down on Trans people, Jewish people, and others who expressed their disappointment at Girlfriend Reviews for playing HL. I'd hope that Girlfriend Reviews would be able to see this, and make amends, rather than trying to retreat to an apolitical position, while allowing the continued use of this "harrassment" to inflict more harm on Trans and Jewish people. And that's the better of two evils, hopefully this doesn't make them follow in the footsteps of the likes of Jontron, becoming an alt-right talking head (although this seems unlikely).

The cognitive dissonance of trying to enjoy something you thought was just innocent fun, to find out it has wider political ramifications, is hard. It's painful, you don't want to feel bad for what you consider an accidental lapse of better judgement. However, the actions you take to deal with that cognitive dissonance is important. You can either face up to your mistake, bury your head in the sand, or stand by your action and in opposition of those you have wronged.

#hogwarts legacy #girlfriend reviews #cognitive dissonance #white womens tears #online harrassment #politics #trans rights #anti semitism #transphobia #oppression #mine

[pesticine]

I liked it. I think people are delusional about how corny the original show is despite the very dark themes in it. Esp season 1.

Was the acting a little cringe ? Sure. The dialogue and the delivery wasn't the best either but I can get past it. It's a kids show and it's fine. Also I really like the kid who played Aang. That's a tough role imo and he did really well. I will not stand for online grown ass people bullying a 13 year old.

#atla #live action #avatar the last airbender #people harrassing actors online ? get bent

[queam]

All those artists who had their art reposted on sjw cringe compilations and ridiculed on kiwifarms deserve compensation for that shit

#queam talks #it’s crazy how much harassment you would recieve back then for simply drawing poc or fat people or body hair or anything lgbt #this topic enrages me because how did we let these people mindlessly harrass literal kids online just for having fun

[tinyfantasminha]

''it's not straight up bullying or harrassment, it's just criticism!!!''

My brother in Christ, the artist literally had to delete/deactivate all of their soc media because of how much harrassment they were getting (including threats). Terminally online Gen Z will obsessively persecute an artist for something problematic they drew like half a decade ago, gaslight their apology posts, threaten them and when said artist deactivates and gets heavily affected irl they say ''oh they can't handle the criticism''. This is straight up vile and unexcusable behaviour. You're not doing the fandom a favour, you're not helping anyone, you're only turning this place even more toxic and quite literally ruining people's lives who never had the intention to interact with you in the first place. You use self-righteousness and morals as a disguise to bully and harass people because apparently that gives a sense of control in your miserable life. The block button exists as a way to curate your internet experience because anywhere, with no exceptions, there will be people with different opinions, POVs and morals than you, and bullying a person to forcibly cater to your morals is completely delusional and a waste of time.

I don't care if I lose followers for this, but if you harass, bully or threaten content creators in any way or agree with these actions, block me.

#discourse #vent #i dont usually engage with drama but im so fucking pissed off with this fandom #how can you sleep at night knowing the person you harrassed might never feel safe again to create content or engage w people online again #you gen Z kids need to step out of your perfect morally-right bubble and touch some grass #there will always be problematic content or things that you dont like anywhere on the internet if you feel uncomfy just block and move on #might delete later

[mosswoss]

PSA for new/younger Undertale fans!

TLDR: Be critical of the content you consume, especially when it pertains to abuse.

I've been noticing a bunch of new faces in the fandom!! I'm super excited to see the fandom revitalized and y'alls new ideas!

However, there's a few things to keep in mind to stay safe (looking at you minors)

While it's not as popular nowadays, when you go through old content, you're gonna stumble across Frans content

For those who aren’t familliar with the term, Frans is the ship name for Frisk/Sans. We could get into the whole debate about the ethics of aging up character and adult/minor pairings, however I'm tired and don't want to

If you want to learn more about that topic, I'd recommend the angry victim’s essay on their experiences as a kid in fandom. Link. TW for pedophilia, S/A, self harm, incest, and general grossness towards kids

Anyways, the issue isnt that a lot of Frans content features unhealthy dynamics and abuse. That’s all fine and dandy, a lot of people process their trauma through fiction. However, frequently in these comics, fics, art, etc, the abuse is framed as romantic and healthy, which isnt super great for people actually in these situations.

Dating someone who’s obsessive, twice your age, and violent isn’t romantic. It’s abuse. When it’s not properly framed or given in the context of being wrong in the real world, people (especially kids) are going to be more vulnerable to being taken advantage of by predators.

If the media you’re consuming is telling you that the unhealthy relationships you’re in are romantic, its gonna be more difficult to escape.

My goal isnt to send a bunch of hate to Frans creators, or acuse them of grooming. I just want young fans to be aware of the real-world dangers of these dynamics.

#frans #frisk x sans #undertale #psa #discourse #i think? #ramblings of a former frans shipper #I'm not joking about the real world stuff #i talked to so many creeps as a kid cause the stuff i watched made it seem romantic #please don't harrass people though #block and move on #uhh #tw pedophila mention #tw abuse #please please be critical and aware of the content you consume #there are so many creeps online that'll take advantage of people who don't know better #anyways #psa over

[mintacle]

So, you've seen the words "anti" and "proshipper" thrown around in people's bios and "batc*st dni" on people's posts. Maybe you want to know what all the fuss is about, maybe you have a particular opinion about all this fuss. In any case, this informative post is for you.

Using Samantha Aburime's paper "the cult structure of the american anti", I'm going to explain the issue.

First of all what is an anti even? It's a term people use to self-identify within fandoms. As the name anti implies, they mainly identify with being against things.

Which leads us to our problem of the anti mentality.

Most antis are minors or under 24. People who left the anti community have explained their experiences in the following manners:

Maybe you have felt the pressure to join in anti behavior as well. If any of the following feelings are familiar to you, then you are experiencing anti indoctrination:

If the shame and guilt instilled in anti members isn't bad enough, there are more consequences for the targets of the antis. In the batman fandom these are blogs that may or may not describe themselves as proship, meaning they ship characters that are (adoptive) members of the wayne family (Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake and Damian Wayne) with one another.

Essentially: this is how anti action works:

Examples of dehumanization and harrasement which are very commonly practised among antis:

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And threats of violence:

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Beyond the aggresive nature of the anti mentality, the problem is that the people it targets are overwhelmingly vulnerable minorities.

And I have often seen antis justifying their harrasement by explaining that they are themselves queer or non-caucasian, which is an example of moral licencing and does not actually excuse targetting other minorities or people of the same minority as you.

So what do antis specifically do? The anti community of the batman fandom will often throw around accusations of incest ("batc*st") and pedophilia.

Let us examine those three concepts, disinformation, virtue signaling and legitimate abuse.

We can find disinformation in the prectise of denying reasonable arguments for tolerance of proshipping. An anti will not engage in any attempt to understand why people ship something they find morally apprehensible. They will label proshippers as degenarates, thereby misrepresenting who it is they are targeting. Furthermore they will misrespresent the amount of influence that proshippers yave on influencing people.

Virtue signaling describes the practise of labelling things as problematic without delivering reasonable arguments for doing so and instead using strong emotional language to explain their judgement:

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Virtue signaling also represents the practise of self-describing the anti as morally pure and the "enemy", the proshipper as morally degenerate.

Both disinformation and virtue signaling allow for legitimate abuse. Depersonifying and villifying the opponent gives the anti a feeling of being legitimized in their abuse.

For followers of my blog, I would like to raise awareness of this side of anti culture. Emotional and shame-inducing language can easily sway us. I plead my case for reasonable and distanced evaluation of what you see online. Condemning pedophilia and incest will seem perfectly natural on face value, which is why it is so hare to understand that often time what is labbelled as such is misrepresented, and really all the time the anti myth will equate preference of fiction to beliefs of real life morality (see first image)

To finish my informational post, I leave you with one last essential quote from Samantha Aburime's paper:

"The anti movement perpetuates archaic systems of judgement based on personal disgust and region-specific morality, punishing powerless people for their fannish interests and tainting their online communities. Their work does nothing to dismantle harmful systematic institutions; rather, it embraces them, even going so far as to actively harm and destroy members of their own community."

Read the full paper here. It's very interesting and a not too long read.

https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/2147/2829

#fandom meta #batcest #or batc*st if that makes you feel better I guess #education as a way of combatting polarism and extremism #essentially. no matter what your opinion is. if you find yourself harrassing people online... you are probably doing something wrong #anti #anti culture #antis #the problem with being anti is that you define yourself through opposition #proshipping #proship #i happen not to be proship. but don't let that make you think I endorse anti mentality or dnis #because I really just HAPPEN not to ship any batfam members #there is more. but the post is already very long and I have hit the ten image limit #ideally I would have inclided a part about how antis call out. expose and target specific blogs #rules for life: 1. live and let live 2. don't yuck someone else's yumm 3. always allow yourself to have your own opinion #dc #batman

[landlordevil]

"Bg3 fans are bad but hockey fans harrass the players IRL" i have really bad news for you about bg3 fans

#actual legends at ruining boundaries and harrassing people online bc they don't agree w them on stupid shit #but then claiming ppl r 'tearing the fandom apart' when you bring up things like... racism and fatphobia #i've seen shit that's made my whole body shrink back in secondhand embarassment...

[miamarie1960]

Going on X/Twitter these days are a nightmare!

I’m not taking sides, how can anybody? We have only losers here! Ali, Ash and their kids. Now it’s all about making the best out of a real shitty situation. And I refuse to take a side! I’ve been following these two since 2011 and love them both.

Believing every tabloid story and commenting on it ad nauseam! It’s online bullying and harassment and it’s incredibly uncomfortable to watch! And honestly it’s not much better here!

Some of these people have hardcore fans, and now they are spewing such hatred. And where did all the rest come from? There are so many of them! In Ashlyn’s tag and in Ali’s. There are everywhere!

#ali krieger #ashlyn harris #bullying #online bullying #harrassment

[friendlyrejection]

once again for the dumbasses in the room, men dni is a self selective tag and lesbians use it so we can post our stupid thirst traps and horny posts without being misconstrued as available to men!! but thats the part that really pisses you off, doesnt it?

#if ‘men dni’ makes you ask ‘does this person mean me or someone else? #ask yourself: are you a man? if the answer is yes #this post is not for you and fuck off!!!! #is it so fucking offensive to you that lesbians- who get harrassed daily on the street no matter how they look- #are basically begging to not be sexualized by men online with a stupid little forum signature #thats whats pissing you off?? this stupid little tagline that only works if the person reading it respects it? #it does basically nothing but piss you fuckers off so you whine and complain #fuck off

[hussyknee]

maybe itd be better if you really did just kill yourself?

I did weigh the pros and cons for a long time and come very close, but currently I'm getting necessary treatment and also have been removed to a place where I am getting the care and comfort I should have had before now. So killing myself is off the table for the foreseeable future.

You, on the other hand, I can't help but look at with rank curiosity. Why on earth would you see the posts of an extremely suicidal person and encourage them to kill themselves? What kind of bad online take would justify doing that? Is this something to do with the fact that the current internet discourse thinks that wishing death on the "right" people is some kind of righteous allyship? It isn't. It's just more cruelty and violence.

Or maybe you just wanted to be cruel without consequence, because you think you have no power in the world other than to make someone else hurt more.

Well for one thing, you're shit out of luck because I'm currently holding a six week old Lab puppy in my lap, so the only pain I'm capable of feeling is her attempts to use my fingers as a chew toy. But even if I didn't have a lapful of drooly sunshine, I wouldn't be hurt or disgusted. I'm just concerned for you. I think you must be in a very dark place to send strangers messages like this. And I don't really believe it made you feel that much better, whether or not you even read this response.

I am very sorry for whatever hurt brought you so low. But please don't let it make you into a thing that can only inflict more of the same on the rest of the world. Granted, it's a pretty fucked up place, but the great thing about it is that you get make it a little better for other people sometimes.

(Apologies for the lack of puppy pics. She keeps trying to eat the phone.)

#tw: suicide baiting #tw: hate #tw: bullying #ableism #mental health #suicidality #social justice #online harrassment #asks #anon #knee of huss

[johnskleats]

Imagine perusing the anti tag for your chosen ship, reblogging a singular (properly tagged) post to add a nasty comment eight times, one of which said "it's NOT that deep" (etc, didn't read it) followed by telling someone to hurt themselves, and then blocking them

#i wasnt going to engage just block them so they could stop being weird but it looks like they beat me to it #fun #zutara #antikataang #anti kataang #its not targeted harrassment online if i dont name names and i wont because i have common decency #unlike some people

[sharkboywrites]

Hey, even though they’re banned now the people who were harassing me did apologize so I thought I’d make a response. If you’re seeing this, fuck you.

I don’t care if it was some funny joke to you, it was fucked up. I don’t give a shit if you’re queer either and I don’t accept your apology. I hope it fucking haunts you. Being homophobic and transphobic for “bait” doesn’t excuse the things you said. You told random people on the internet that you didn’t know to kill themselves and that has serious consequences.

I want you to explain to me why you thought that was so funny. I want you explain to any queer person you meet in real life why you thought it was funny. I want you to explain to the family and friends of trans people who were murdered or committed suicide why you thought it was funny. I want you to explain to me and other people with eating disorders, who are genuinely fucking suffering and didn’t need that, why it was so fucking funny to you.

Calling random people you don’t know slurs isn’t funny. Calling me a tranny, a literal slur which you knew was wrong, and said you didn’t care, isn’t funny. I don’t give a fuck if you’re bisexual. Doing a “social experiment” like this isn’t helpful, it got me murder and rape threats from other people because you encouraged them to do it. That’s fucked up.

I don’t accept your shitty apology and I hope you do get in serious trouble for it, you deserve it whether it was serious or not, fuck you. You’re not an ally and after this you will never be one. Fuck you.

#sharkboyrambles #trans #transmasc #queer #transphobia #online harassment #harrassment #homophobia #trans ftm #trans man #ftm

[wenellyb]

Hi everyone, I’m taking a short break from Tumblr. I realized that after some time some people start doing and saying stuff that they would never do "in real life" and the reason for that is because they’re too much online. I’m chosing to stay away from that for a while, but I’ll be back! I’m going to miss my Tumblatives, especially the Sambucky fandom which is imo the best fandom on here! I just need a break from all the other content and all of the toxic people on here.

Tumblr can be a very annoying place and no matter how many people I block, there are still people who find a way to harrass other people, get on Anon and be disgusting. There are also the annoying people who just state their opinions and pretend they are facts. And while it's very cute when it comes to fandoms and stuff...it's scary when people say stuff unironically about more serious topics and real life stuff.

I'm leaving my asks open but will only reply to them when I come back.

I'll probably come back when the Grey's drama resumes or if there any big news on the Cap 4 movie.

#Let's not even talk about the people who “hate follow” me #who does that??? #To be fair I think it's just one person who keeps coming back with a different ip adress or something like that but anyway...I'm taking a #break and I'll be back #and also it's never ok to harrass anyone online for any reason...act like you would act in real life be respectful

[teja-has-puppet-autism]

y'know sometimes I go to make a post on this here webbed site, and I almost always end up deletin it cause I measure it through the "how widely applicable is this" + "how horribly can people twist this" metrics and it just stops my little fingies from typin

(this turned into me typing an essay in the tags cause I very much did need to process some shit lmao)

#I have thoughts I wanna get out there #but also I have had people threaten me and harrass me for far less than my thoughts of #'hey maybe my community isn't fuckin normal about trans women' and #'you can be fucked in the gender and also not use transmisogynistic stereotypes and terminologies to do that' #while also pointing out that transmasculine experiences are frequently ignored erased minimized and criticized habitually #(I have eliminated my worries via tag talk lmao so i will keep on processin down here) #Like idk its such a difficult intersection of shit because obviously a lot of transmasculine folks have experienced primarily if not only #other transmasc spaces online and have some deep set transmisogyny going on and then also the other way around of a lot of transfeminine #folk have primarily if not only interacted within transfem spaces and have deep set transmisogyny goin on #(which I'm not gonna argue on transmisogyny being a transfem only word or about transandrophobia or anti-transmasculinity my verbige is #constantly changing around this topic because of the shit that gets hurled at transmascs that use any of the transmasc specific words or th #OG word that applies to the misogyny experienced and intertwined with transness just: language is hard and imperfect so I'm using what I'm #using right now) #and anyway so those two groups of folk clash on their own and have a lot of strained and difficult communication and then there's a third #group that intentionally causes further rifts by trolling and sending hate anons and making accounts pretending to be transfem or transmasc #and shitting on ''the other side'' (heavy HEAVY quotations on that one) #and that all combines into an absolute clusterfuck of lack of understanding or sympathy from either 'side' of things for the other #there is just a lack of fundamental knowledge about our brothers sisters and others shared between us all and it is INFURIATING

[twisting-echo]

SonallyNShadamy4Ever is back!

But he's going by Sonally4LifeReborn this time.

If anyone remembers the callout post I made about him, then you'd remember that this guy has been going around targeting and harassing people over their ships, specifically Shadouge, Knuxulie, Vecpio, Roupaz, and more LGBTQ+ ships. He claims that he's not attacking people but rather giving them "constructive criticism" when it's anything but.

Here is my Sega Sonic Shipping Chart.

And because I state in my chart that there is no Sonic ship I hate because I'm a multishipper and a very ship-positive person. I guess he felt the need to find me and harass me again.

I woke up to find him mocking me in the comments.

So I responded to him, and I think that I explained myself and my reasons for not wanting to be bothered by him reasonably well. But I honestly expected his childish response. (And I'm the one being the baby.) Well, it's too bad that I actually have screenshots of the things that he doesn't remember saying.

Here he is calling Espio a "disgusting freak" for being headcanoned as gay.

Here he is literally saying that it "disgusts him" that Roupaz was almost a thing and that, oh, look, Rouge was BISEXUAL. He spews so much toxic shit that he can't even remember what comes out of his mouth. But Sonelise is A-OK because it's "straight." This was anything but "sincere constructive criticism."

Nobody has the right to demand to know why you ship your ships.

Here is his "Rouge the Bat is not a Lesbian" post that he made to spite me back on his other account, SonallyNShadamy4Ever.

Here are the comments of the Rouge the Bat is not a Lesbian deviation.

He doesn't respect anyone. Disapproving people for their headcanons IS being disrespectful.

So, I didn't respond to his toxic, childish response, and I blocked him.

Here is a link to my original callout post below 👇

#vent #tw #vent tw #call out post #callout #homophobia #tw homophobia #sonic the hedgehog #sonic fandom #SonallyNShadamy4Ever #Sonally4LifeReborn #harrassment #tw harassment #tw bullying #online harassment #deviantart