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tenisperfection · 2 years

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I've been thinking about storytelling on 911, especially since the BT break-up, and I have to talk about Taylor and "This is our first argument all over again", "You knew who I was when we first started dating" and "I thought I could learn to live with it". We pretty much circled back to Taylor in Dosed towards the last few episodes of this season, but this has been hinted at several times throughout their relationship (we've all seen the beautiful gifsets so I'll not list them). Ultimately, they never would've worked out, but from a storytelling standpoint—as hard as it was to watch at times—they had to drag it out because it was about Buck realizing his own worth and how he can choose to be single and happy over an unhealthy and incompatible relationship. We've known that Buck yearns for love and fears being left alone pretty much since the very beginning of S1, and it has been his main series-long arc so far. He's tried many times to find love and make it stick, but we've known for quite a while—since before S5 began—that this time with Taylor would need to end with him choosing himself and calling it quits. That brings me to the wrench.

This is definitely a popular topic of discussion now and one that’s quite polarizing for some reason, but I think the kiss with Lucy was the quickest way for them set up the break-up. It made sense for Buck to kiss her because we know his tendency towards physical self-destruction (through throwing himself in danger, through sex, etc.) when he feels like he's being left behind, and Eddie had just told him he wasn't coming back to the 118 and asked Buck to move on.

Buck would not have asked Taylor to move in if he wasn't desperately trying to overcorrect for kissing Lucy and clinging to Taylor even harder. We wouldn't have known that he is aware that he’s settling but is still unable to let go and give himself that one bit of kindness. All that set-up with Taylor in 5a was to get us to this moment apart from exposing how Buck has felt nearly every step of the relationship. I also don’t think Buck kissing anyone random would’ve had nearly the same impact as him kissing Lucy, someone Taylor eventually ends up meeting and immediately clocks (wrongly) as a threat. That’s another way they’ve told us that Taylor does not really understand Buck and Buck does not really trust her, even after all this time.

So yeah, I think they set it up in a way that would maximally allow for Buck to grow and get to a point where he stops choosing to stay with the wrong people just as an alternative to staying single, and the way they did this ensures that there’s no way back for these two. They didn’t just break up because Taylor got a job in a different city and Buck didn’t want to move with her, because if that had been the case, Buck would’ve probably chosen to go since he hasn’t gone through all the questioning he’s done about the relationship in 5b, and this would be another instance of someone leaving him, which we’ve seen enough of. It simply would not have packed the punch this storyline did, where we saw very quickly how much Buck was leading himself down a path of self-destruction by sticking to this relationship, and how much he has grown when he finally gets himself out of it.

The kiss was the spark that set this relationship on fire, in a way that reminded us who Buck and Taylor are very clearly and what they need from a relationship. The way they’ve rounded out Taylor’s storyline by bringing back references to Dosed ensures that we all know that it never could’ve worked, that these are the people that they are and they can’t be together. It took this long because a show like 911 is not going to do anything but take the long route to get one of their main characters to what is a pivotal point in the series for him. People saying the finale was lackluster or wasn’t dramatic enough? Buck choosing himself over being with someone to just not be alone is a monumental scene after five seasons of him choosing pretty much anything but himself. Could they have gone a different route to set all this up? I’m sure they could’ve. Was this ultimately effective and true to Buck’s growth and characterization thus far? Yes, and honestly that’s all that matters. They don’t need twenty storylines that could’ve worked, they just need one, and this one did.

#my 2 cents before I run away #anyway most of this was in my drafts since monday but I finally got to write it up given the current topic of discourse??#Also like please remember that you can talk about editing and lucy’s scenes being cut and what not but that seems very unrealistic #that they’d do it intentionally when we know so many other scenes have been cut #also that’s just a bunch of you just setting a LOT in store by interviews when the story is right there on our screens #don’t try to argue about how the kiss is not true to buck’s character please like think about everything we’ve known about him #anti bt #911 fox #long meta

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the-family-we-choose-118 · 3 years

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Looks like Taylor will be on the first few episodes of S5 😭(pic on actress’s twitter)

if buck and taylor are really happy and thriving…… like good for them buck deserves happiness BUTmy buddie heart will struggle so much to get through this 😭

In my mind I've already decided buddie will happen eventually lol taylor and buck are simply finishing out their lovers to best friends arc 😏

BUT if I have to watch them make out one more time I will 🤢🤮

#tbf i don't like watching makeout scenes anyway #like it's not even a buddie/bucktaylor thing #i'm just like watching and all i can think is how odd it is for actors/actresses to have to make out with coworkers 😂#asked and answered #anonymous #911 spoilers #911 season 5 #also i don't mind taylor kelly being there #megan seems like such a great addition to the show #i hope them building her an arc will allow them to keep her on longer as buck's friend even if she only pops in occasionally #or they could give her a storyline after buck and taylor are done #i propose: have her get engaged to that coworker she had and then stick around as buck's bestie

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matan4il · 2 years

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Your reply to the anon message where you talked about the cheating garnering Taylor sympathy is so interesting. Like I work in production and journalism and I fully understand it's cut throat and the desire for a story but I honestly don't believe I could ever forgive her for wanting to destroy a whole group of first responders for something that wasn't their fault? I found that behaviour so reprehensible and discussing.

However she doesn't deserve to be cheated on. Being cheated on is so grim and awful and it's just not any way to to treat someone so there's so much conflict in my feelings about her. Like I don't think I will ever like her and I genuinely don't get how someone as loyal as Buck could date her after she told him she was willing to ruin Bobby for her own gain but I really don't want to have to see the fall out from this cheating arc. It's gonna be bad bad bad for the emotions

Hi Nonnie! Thank you for the ask!

I gather you wrote in response to this post. I'm so happy you shared your own insight from working in the same profession as Taylor! I agree, I think in 206 Taylor very much was set up as an antagonist, you could tell she was up to no good when she showed up at the fire station to film her piece there, and by the end of the ep it’s confirmed that she was more than willing to destroy Bobby’s life, knowing full well that he was a good fire captain, and that this would hurt the people served by his team just as much as it would hurt him and everyone close to him. And that Buck speaking so highly of Bobby didn’t give her pause at all. I’m with you, I always felt the show just ignored the question of how Buck would even get together with her in 208 after what she did (or wanted to do) to Bobby in favor of giving Buck a romantic choice between her as The Wrong Choice and Ali as The Right One. I guess because they already ignored it in 208, they didn’t feel the need to address it in 408 either, they just acted like her being upset over the vaccines was enough to clean the slate. I also think her backstory that we got in 509, which feels like it’s meant to garner her sympathy, actually ends up doing the opposite. We might feel bad for her tragic childhood, but then we’re also left to wonder how could she, when she knows how hurtful it is when the media tears into people’s lives, do the same to others?

So yes, in comparison the cheating def gets her way more sympathy. I also find it interesting that the first thing the show really does to grant Taylor more sympathy is actually not about anything she herself does or chooses, but rather about what is done to her. Meaning, she’s not given much agency in this, which is why, as you’ve stated, you can have sympathy for her in that situation and still dislike the character.

It’s def going to be a lot as this storyline unfolds and eventually comes to its conclusion, and much like many other things in 5b, I’m both looking forward to it and don’t think I’ll ever be quite ready for it... I’m here for you if at any point you feel the need to vent or share as this arc progresses! xoxox

(I’ve been juggling work overload and medical stuff, but I did my best to catch up. If you wanna see my replies or check if I’ve answered yours, here’s my ask tag. xoxox)

#buddie #911meta #buddie meta #911 meta #9-1-1 #evan buck buckley #evan buckley #eddie diaz #edmundo diaz #anti-bucktaylor #ask #anon ask #911onabc #911 on abc #911abc #911 abc

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inawickedlittletown · 3 years

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Queerbaiting and Buddie

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I keep saying that I don’t want to spend any more time on 9-1-1 meta or fic, but the events of this weekend made me open up a document where I had some unfinished meta and in light of the S4 finale airing tonight, I thought I might at least write this:

“Queerbaiting is a marketing technique for fiction and entertainment in which creators hint at, but then do not actually depict, same-sex romance or other LGBTQ representation. They do so to attract a queer or straight ally audience with the suggestion of relationships or characters that appeal to them, while at the same time attempting to avoid alienating other consumers.”

That is how Wikipedia defines queerbaiting. And I really feel like everyone needs to read that and then read it again and realize that what is happening on 9-1-1 with Buddie is NOT queerbaiting.

I don’t want to go into the long history of queerbaiting because we would be here all day and anyone that wants to do some research should go and do so. There are a lot of resources out there. Use them.

But the short of it is this: queerbaiting has a lot more to do with the way a show is promoted, with the way that anyone involved in the show talks about a queer ship, and with the show deliberately scripting scenes that hint at a relationship without any intention of following through. Expectations and wanting a queer ship to go canon and those expectations not being met do not alone equate to it being queerbaiting.

For any of us that have been around a long time there are a lot of perfect examples and if you compare Buddie to any of them, they are very different. I’ll name a few:

Merlin/Arthur

John Watson/Sherlock

Emma Swan/Regina

Derek/Stiles

Castiel/Dean Winchester (though they did go canon...barely)

Lena/Kara

Buck and Eddie do not fit into that list. Which isn’t to say that someday they could belong there, but I just do not believe that they will even if Buddie never becomes canon. And this all lies in how Buddie as a ship has been treated both on screen and off. I’ll break it down by season.

S2:

Eddie is very clearly introduced as a new character, a straight Army veteran with a disabled kid and family drama. He and Buck have immediate chemistry. We can’t deny that, or deny that from that first episode there are immediate sparks. Unintended sparks, but sparks nevertheless. And it is easy to tell that no one on the production team expected that and the story reflects that.

Yes a foundation for their friendship is formed and yet the season long story focuses on Eddie’s relationship with his estranged wife and Buck is dealing with his own growth after being left by Abby. Their friendship shines and their scenes are great but none of them suggest romance and there are actually a lot of episodes where Buck and Eddie barely interact in S2 aside from in the background or for small work related moments (this mostly happens after Shannon returns).

S2 does give us the first acknowledgement from the powers that be aka Tim Minear that they know what the fans have seen. This is why the elf scene exists, but it exists in a space where it’s a nod to the fans and not meant to do much more than that. The other moment is during the call with the livestreamer. But S2, places them completely and without question on a strong friendship.

S3:

We see a lot more conflict for Buck and Eddie in this season and we see how close and important they are to each other. Those are the two main things. That can be read as friendship easily and it’s a season where both Buck and Eddie deal with their pasts and in one way or another start to get closure while their friendship remains intact.

Yes there are some scenes that make us squint and go huh, wtf? (I’m looking at you kitchen scene), but narratively we also know that neither of these boys is ready for a real relationship with anyone, let alone each other. But we can bask in how close they are as well as how Christopher fits in into all of it.

But in S3 we are also introduced to Ana and we see the return of Abby. We also get to see that Buck and Eddie have become closer than ever and that the lawsuit only serves to highlight the importance that they both feel about having the other available to them. I’ll also quickly mention that Eddie Begins worked hard to highlight Buck’s devotion to Eddie.

S4:

Without considering the events of the finale (I am avoiding spoilers and know nothing about it or the speculation), we’ve seen Buck and Eddie both grow and get further closure on their past. This season has paralleled them well and their friendship has not faltered, they’re as close as ever.

The beginning of the season was heavily focused on Buck and we saw him grow as a person and begin to work on himself in a healthy way and we’ve seen Eddie be supportive of that.

We also have Ana to consider and her relationship with Eddie as well as the return of Taylor and yet the appearance of these women has not changed the Buck and Eddie dynamic. And I find it fascinating that Eddie beginning to date Ana, is the thing that prompted Buck to start dating. The parallels are all over the place but it is the strength of the friendship and the way they care so deeply about each other that remains whether that becomes romantic is still to be seen, but it could still go either way.

Off-screen by the end of S2, Tim Minear had already addressed Buddie by throwing in that elf scene in a wink/nudge fashion that said “I see you” and in the scene with the girl with the livestream with the comments. During S3 he tweeted about being frustrated by the fans demanding and being hostile and thinking that that would make him more likely to do what they want (I’m paraphrasing what I remember seeing). Tim has never once said that Buddie will happen or shut the door on the ship entirely, but he did say he did not want to engage in conversation about it because he doesn’t want to get into arguments with fans.

Oliver has always been enthusiastic about Buddie and has even said that he would be perfectly fine with it happening both a while ago and more recently in promo for S4. Conscious of queerbaiting and not wanting to give fans false hope, he has specifically said that he does not know if it will or won’t happen and that he wouldn’t speak on that as he’s not the one making that decision. His support for it happening does not mean he has any sway one way or the other. He’s said this a few times and even wrote a letter to the effect to make it clear to fans that the last thing he wants is to disappoint someone due to something he’s said.

All in all, it just isn’t a constructive environment for anyone working on the show to interact with fans on this topic because any time that they do, they get attacked by overly enthusiastic buddie shippers that in many ways are making everything worse.

In all of the interviews from Tim that I’ve seen, he has always been very quick to hint at what was coming up on the show in a way that at times has been misleading on purpose. The number one thing that comes to mind is early in S4 where Buck was said to get a new woman in his life. Tim absolutely made it out to seem like it was a girlfriend while knowing fully well that it was a therapist. This is an excellent example of what promoting and hinting is actually like. No one from this show has done that in regards to Buddie.

No one has gone out of their way to hint that it may happen in a way that excites the fans. And this is one of my main reasons for knowing that Buddie is not a queerbait. At no point in the life of the show so far has anyone used Buddie in a promotional way to bring in viewers. Because THAT was the whole point of queerbaiting in the past.

It was a way that some showrunners found to bring in a lot of viewers when they needed to up their numbers in order to show networks they were worth keeping around. Someone figured out that LGBTQ people wanted to see themselves represented so much so that they would tune in to anything that promised an LGBTQ character in some fashion. It was a tactic that worked well in the landscape of tv where there was so little LGBTQ content on mainstream media that anyone wanting it would latch onto anything. And then they just wouldn’t deliver on those relationships or characters. In 2021, that is not the world we live in any longer.

In today’s tv landscape there is so much to watch and so much to pick from and diversity has grown, it is celebrated. Queer characters are well represented as are queer relationships and queer stories. The times are different. A while back I was listening to a podcast (Bait: a queerbaiting podcast) and something I found interesting was how the hosts both agreed that in today’s tv landscape there is no more real queerbait and that we won’t easily find anything like the ships I mentioned above. I think I agree more with this than I expected to, because I do think that it exists in some spaces, but it definitely isn’t what it used to be. This is a good thing.

Specific to 9-1-1, this is a show that has that diversity and that isn’t afraid of tackling that diversity and giving us interesting and nuanced perspectives and stories embracing that. We have characters of color, women in positions of power, a F/F relationship, two multi-racial relationships, a disabled character, other queer characters including a M/M relationship. There is so much in this show that embraces diversity and that embraces the reality of what the world looks like. To call it queerbait is to disrespect everything else that this show is and has done and the hard storylines that have been tackled that we would not have seen on tv ten years ago.

And I get that Buddie would be another breakthrough. It would be a novel way to tell a queer story, and it would be amazing if it were to happen. The set up is there, but it isn’t fully realized, and Buck and Eddie can still be read as just friends if we take off the shipping goggles. But it also isn’t queerbait or likely to become queerbait and people have to stop calling it that.

What Buddie resembles is one of the many unintended slow burn ships that have frustrated viewers in many forms across fandoms and we just have to go along for the ride and maybe it will happen. Or maybe it won’t. But if we know anything about relationships on tv, it is that a lot of the fun comes from the journey, even if the destination is good too.

#911 fox #buddie #911 meta #911 on fox #buddie meta #buddie is not queerbaiting #long post #this is almost 2k long

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loveyourownsmiilee · 2 years

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Hi! I appreciate your breaking down Oliver's comments about how Lucy made Buck feel. I'm thrilled that BT is clearly done, but the framing of the article made me nervous. Contrasting Lucy with Taylor implies that they're on the same level (as love interests, as opposed to friends) and further compares the way that they both make him feel (because again if Lucy is a friend, why the contrast to Taylor). Really hoping they keep this platonic.

Honestly in the beginning upon my first read it also made me a little nervous because I didn’t like the fact that he called her appealing. But then when I reread it I realized he wasn’t calling her specifically appealing, he was talking about the sense of her giving him the feeling of being alive after not feeling that way for such a long time. It’s very highly unlikely that they would take him out of one relationship and put him into another one right away. I don’t think she’s going to be around for too long to even be considered a love interest. And where would he have time for a new relationship when he is going to be dealing with Eddie and Christopher and then even his sister when she comes back?

I don’t think that’s what he was doing. I think he found the perfect leeway to talk about how he was somewhat sad and not himself and now is going to be more fun and reckless due to this new addition to the team. I didn’t see it as him contrasting two lovers for him. He just talked about their relationship at work so that’s all it’s going to be in my opinion. They have been building up his relationship with Eddie and Christopher for so many years for them to just randomly throw it out now when Eddie is dealing with a lot of things and he’s in therapy. It’s literally just gonna be a repeat of him feeling all these negative things and putting all of his energy into crazy stunts at work where he could potentially get him hurt, kinda exactly like Eddie’s storyline with Lena and the fighting. His actions are probably going to come back and bite him in the ass and Eddie is going to step in and reel him back in. I’m not worried about them making her a LI but Oliver’s been waaaay too happy and actively teasing us Buddie scenes for that to happen! Just have some hope love!!

#juju answers #anon asks #buddie #lucy donato #911 spoilers #911 speculation

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valenschmidt · 3 years

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IT'S 3AM AND CALL ME A CLOWN BUT....

This is gonna be a little long but bear with me cause I have a point.

I believe this entire Eddieana and what happened this episode is heavily hinting that something big is coming...

This entire season we have had subtle Buddie moments AND also moments that hint that Buck and Eddie co-parent Christopher together and I'm gonna list it for you:

We start in 4x03 where Eddie and Buck have this 'good cop, bad cop' scene with Christopher and the video games where Buck tells Christopher no after a silent very mom/dad like pose which says 'Try and defy me' which is very common between married couples who co-parent (I've seen it with my parents a few times). We continue this episode with this cute little prank with the coffee maker that Buck and Chris play on Eddie (which was hilarious and really cute btw)

We move on to the crossover when Buck gets sad (and kind jealous when he finds out that Eddie is gonna work with Marjan instead of him

Later in the ep we have TK (an openly gay man) who thinks Buck is flirting with him AND OPENLY TELLS BUCK he has a boyfriend when Buck suggests they "get together" if TK's in LA sometime... AND on top of that when TK disappears of the frame who appears right after? Yup Eddie

We move on to 4x04 in which we have the scene with the 'Karen's murder' where we have Buck and Eddie playing detective together in a very cute way trying to discover the woman's killer. Then we have the punching bag scene in which after being angry for a while, a conversation with Eddie helps Buck with his anger.

We move on to Buck begins!!! Where in the factory fire JUST AS BUCK is about to give up, the 118 shows up to help him. Who is the first one there??? Eddie. Then we have the scene with Eddie waiting for buck's clean bill of health... And then the whole "Show off" scene which honestly?? EDDIE YOUR FONDNESS!!!

Now we get to the good stuff.... 4x06. JINX. My favorite episode! Where we have the clipboard scene with fond Eddie and the cutest moment with Buck and Eddie laughing in that whole helium scene but also it's the one where we get an incoming... Ana. Bobby tells Eddie this advice which resonates with me

"They're so focused on what they don't have, that they miss the chance to have something else. Something real" and tells Eddie to try and move on... But this line I believe it's more for us. Eddie will be SO focused on what he doesn't have (a 'mom' for Christopher) that he misses the chance to have something real. Something that is right in front of his face (Buck) and tries to find it on Ana (which is where our misery begins)

We have 4x07 where the focus of story arcs shifts to other characters and we don't get that much here BUT we get Buck trying to 'date' and failing miserably with Veronica.

In 4x08 is where the fun starts and co-pareting buddie starts to show... We have on one side Buck who is having issues with Albert and Veronica dating which leads to uncomfortable Buck in his own apartment. Our dear Taylor Kelly comes back but we see her relationship with Buck change to a really nice friendship. On the otherside we have Eddie who starts dating Ana and Christopher finds out which leads to his outburst to Eddie (which had never happened before) and then... HE RUNS AWAY. WHERE!? To Buck. To his other parent. The only other person who makes him feel safe (we get kind of like a divorced!buddie vibe here too). This beautiful scene between them shows us how Buck is Chris other parent AND ALSO that Buck and Taylor are truly becoming friends now. And then we get this really rushed scene where Edmundo (not eddie, Edmundo) introduces Christopher to Ana as if that's gonna make him feel better after the outburst he had and that made no sense at all to the point of the episode

In 4x09 we get a little bit of Buddie working together as the partners they are but the focus is on Chimney and Hen this ep so we just get breadcrums

In 4x10 we get the biggest hint so far... The episode is called PARENTHOOD! And it focuses on obviously the parents of the 118. Bathena and Michael, Henren and Madney. Who is the only parent who gets left out here?? Eddie... Why?? Because we all know that Chris has two parents and they don't want to acknowledge that just yet cause... Reasons. BUT we get nice hints. The few scenes in which we have Buck we get him talking about children at the same level as the rest of the 118. He acts and talks like he's already a parent. Why? Because he is!!!

We get this scene which is very subtle (BUT ALSO VERY NOTICEABLY) where we have the 'good cop, bad cop parents' and their kid. Chimney asks if both parents can be the 'good cop' AND BOTH BUCK AND EDDIE RESPOND NO! As if they know by first hand that a kid needs both, good and bad. This HEAVILY hints buddie co-parents or there's no point to this moment. In the same epsiode we get this AWFUL and very rushed scene with Buddieana and Chris in literally the last minute of the parenthood episode where Chris didn't even show up. The show portrays them as the 'adorable family who watches tv together' when they showed us JUST a few scenes ago the very noticeable buddie co-parenting scene. Why you say?? To remind us Eddie and Ana are still dating.

My point??? It's all on purpose. This is all hinting that something big might be coming. That's why we are getting so little scenes, why buddie is "pulling away". Also the fact that Ana is just here as Eddie's love interest and has literally no personality whatsoever is making me believe she's just being used as a background character. Even David (Michael's partner) has more personality than her and I think this is done on purpose. I believe something is gonna happen and this might all lead to Carla's appearance in an upcoming episode which could be the turning point of this storyline. Cocoa hinted that Carla will be coming back and she might be anti Ana (and possibly team buck). Will she knock some sense into Eddie? I really hope so

This took me an hour but it's here... Am I a clown? Yes. Am I reaching? Probably. But I had to get it out of my chest... Buddie is coming

#911 on fox #buddie #buck and eddie #evan buck buckely #eddie diaz #christopher diaz #buddie meta #meta #911 season 4

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lovecolibri · 2 years

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Omg your tags made me think again about that awful 5x10. For me it was already too much time they spent on b/t and their pursuit for gifts, but if it was a way to show how little they knew each other it was fine, but nope they as usual had to exagerate and give us that useless scene about the exange of presents, what was the point? Why they did show us that?

Not me seeing this hit my inbox and going "so true bestie! Those tags were great!" and then sitting on this for weeks until I forgot what tags they were about 🙄 Love this brain for me.

ANYWAY

Unpopular opinion, but 5x10 is actually one of the few bt moments I think was important to see. We needed zero backstory for her or to see her "investigating" anything. That was all pointless nonsense that no one is going to care to re-watch when she's gone from the show forever because it added NOTHING to the overall storyline. Every scene with Ana or Shannon was about Eddie and was important to see for his and for Christopher's stories. Because that's what she was there for! We knew next to nothing about Ali aside from her story in the earthquake episodes, and her scenes were all about growth for Buck. Taylor's original appearance was for *drama* reasons, but her coming back in 2x08 (despite not making sense because Buck would never, actually. Not after what she wanted to do to Bobby) was to show Buck starting to regress, and then decide that he didn't want to be that person. (I'm mostly leaving Abby out of this because she was a main character in season 1, so she had her own scenes to inform her character. But when she made her appearance in season 3, her scenes were all about letting us know where she was in relation to Buck ("they stopped waiting for me a long time ago"), and everything from then on was about how her being there and having a fiancé affected Buck.)

Her popping back up in season 4 originally didn't bother me as much (mostly because it had been some time since early season 2 and I'd sort of blocked out how awful she was), and it looked like she was just going to be around again to show Buck's growth away from that person he used to be, and as someone for Buck to hang with now that Eddie had a gf, which we got to see kind of making Eddie a bit jealous. Which was fun! But the moment she kissed Buck in 4x14 it instantly became a 🙄🙄🙄🙄 "oh she was here for relationship purposes" thing. (Which again, does not make sense and I'm eternally biter we didn't get to see Athena's thoughts on allowing that woman anywhere near her home and Bobby.) I honestly don't think she would have been as hated by 5x10 though if she had gotten the Ana treatment and we continued to only see her in a few moments with Buck that were about informing his character, however not only was she just...everywhere when she didn't need to be, but we had to sit back and watch as Buck looked more and more rundown after every interaction, as he tentatively tried to open up and was immediately shut down and told his feelings weren't valid, as he quit having scenes with other characters and started mostly having all his scenes with her. It was unbearable and while it might have been purposeful, they could have achieved the same effect without focusing any time on her and her "sob" story that only served to make her look even worse.

I've gotten off track here a bit, but the point is, that we needed to see how completely out of sync they are, and the show has actually done an amazing job showing that since she came back in season 4 (forever cackling about her flat out telling Buck they made a terrible team because she's right and they are utterly unsuited for each other), culminating in the Christmas episode. You cannot tell me that Buck is bad at giving gifts because I won't believe you. That man loves so loudly and takes such an interest in the lives of the people he loves. He has a useful, thoughtful, heartfelt gift for anyone in the firefam and their immediate family ready on the tip of his tongue, so showing him having ZERO idea what to get his gf of like, at least 6 months?! Who is basically living with him? Unparalleled comedy in my opinion. Also, Buck is so open and curious about everything and that woman couldn't think of anything better than a sweater?! Not an interesting book (maybe about firefighting or natural disasters or weird facts), or a cool puzzle box, or murder mystery game (like a To Hunt A Killer box), or a trip to some cool exhibit, or literally anything else but clothes? And the fact that we saw Buck telling her he loved a gift he hadn't even seen because it was something SHE picked out for him (😭 baby boy I am begging you to get some higher standards), while we saw her disgust and distaste of his gift even though it makes perfect sense given that he has nearly lost everyone close to him at one point or another? Seeing that she instantly thinks that it's a way to "track" her, highlighting the lack of trust in their relationship?

I mean, by 5x10 I was absolutely sick of her and would happily have seen literally anything else at all, BUT I do think of all the scenes over the season, the ones in 5x10 were actually the ones we needed, and had they not given us the Ghost Stories debacle, and had we not just suffered through her scenes ruining a perfectly fun and otherwise delightful 5x09, I think the 5x10 stuff would have been better received for what it was. As it is, we are all BYOND ready for her to leave, and I've already got the champagne chilling on ice to celebrate when it happens.

#my sweet nonnie friends #911 #anti bucktaylor #anti taylor kelly #this...got a bit out of hand #i was going to try and clear my inbox and go through my drafts #and then i spend just...so much time on this and for what?#do i know how to shut up? sources say no #anyway #when will buck set himself free?#it's been 84 years we have suffered enough

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captainbfresh · 3 years

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have you read the metas about buddie? they're giving me life, I hope you read them. if you did, what direction do you think they'll make buddie take in season 5?

A very homosexual one.

I don't do metas because I'm a dumbass but I can can tell you what I personally want to happen. Whether I think all of it will actually or not is ugh up for debate.

Season 4 ended on a very Buddie note. Even with both men in relationships with other people there was a definite shift In their interactions this season.

Us buddie believes have been saying for like ever, that for buddie to happen we need moments that shift the general audiences perspective of buddie and open the gateway to "Maybe they could be more than friends" and by golly did we get that with this season.

The last two episodes just 🤯

I know some people are worried about Taylor but I feel like putting her in how they did just proves that she isn't Bucks endgame.

Going into season 5 we have Eddie And Ana who are, let's be honest, doomed. Carla's "follow your heart" and her having like half a linep in the last episode are the final nails in that relationships coffin.

They've shown they have no problem just writing out a girlfriend over the season break (rip Ali) so to do it with Ana wouldn't be difficult. Sure they were still together but we had Eddie's creeping doubt and her silence. It wouldn't be difficult to give Eddie a throwaway line about them breaking up.

Instead were most likely getting her back. I'm thinking this is so we can have some clarity on exactly why the relationship isn't going to work, because this relationship ending is important. It's Eddie choosing to follow his heart and not settle just because its what he feels he should be doing for Christopher.

I feel like the break up, if not done in the season hiatus and shown through an awkward run in with Ana in the first episode. Will come early in the season. I can't see Ana being around for more than just a window into Eddies psyche to tell us why they're breaking up and to give us some clarity on where Eddie is emotionally this season. (At least on the romantic aspect. Fingers crossed for a ptsd storyline to eek out over the season tho)

As for Buck. I feel like buck Taylor is gonna last longer than most of us want 😂 but I'm kinda excited for it. What I really want to see is them having a fairly amicable split after a pretty good relationship.

We've seen already that Taylor is the kind of person person chose work over well, everything. And we saw in the final that Buck will chose Eddie and Christopher when it comes down to the wire.

I want buck exploring his relationship as Taylor as they both struggle with the fact that they and their relationship aren't their top priority. Give me both of them interrupting dates with work or buck having to babysit.

But I want them both to work on it. I really want to see them both trying for a relationship. I want Eddie bitter and jealous in the background because buck is trying to make more time for Taylor.

Buck and Taylor before had a "What if" this is there chance to get some closure and prove to themselves they're better as friends

Buck needs to be the one to break up with Taylor. And, unpopular opinion here but I don't want it (nor do I think it will be) because of Eddie. I don't want him leaving Taylor to jump in q relationship.

Buck said last season he doesn't want to chase people anymore and I want to see that. That he only wants people who really want him and i want to see that in their break up.

I want buck and her breaking up with buck having no romantic relationship to turn to but just doing it because he knows that this relationship isn't right and both he and Taylor deserve better than settling into a relationship that's just okay.

Then, when both our boys are single and know they're looking for the real deal. Buck finally gets a clue and we get our requinted buddie pining and not just jealous Eddie pining

#911 fox #buddie #i dont even know what i wrote tbh

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bibuckbuckley · 3 years

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I guess you can use this as a prompt if you’d like but also I’m just curious. How would you like for them to get together?

This is such a great question thank you! I decided to just write my thoughts instead of making it a prompt bc there's actually a lot of different ways that I wouldn't mind it to go/would want them to do. So if I wrote if it'd be just one of thos ideas (but I still might write it).

But I will start with that I definitely want them to have at least some inkling of feelings from either Eddie or Buck or even both in the finale. Because, if the writers really are gonna give us a romantic buddie storyline, I really don't see how they won't have at least a hint, even if it's one of those 'saying it saying it things'. However, since it's what I personally would want (while I try to maintain a more realistic approach lol) I would love to see somewhat of a confirmation that both have feelings for each other, even if it is a 'saying it without saying it'.

And then s5 we get mutual pining era.

Okay, so before I go any further I wanna point out a scenario that my sister mentioned even before last ep aired. I know this won't happen, but I would just love if we get some good friends to lovers angsty drama i.e. like what they did with caskett in Castle. Where maybe when Buck is saving Eddie one of them confess in the heat of the moment. Like the confession doesn't even have to be big, it could just be an 'I love you' that some people could still interrupt as them 'being bros who love each other as bros'. BUT THEN after Eddie is okay, either a) Eddie asks if he or Buck said anything and Buck tell him 'no' (you know like a liar) or b) where Buck asks Eddie if he remembers anything and Eddie says 'no' (also like a liar). And then later Buck talks to Taylor and Taylor mentions how she and him could never work, not when he has feelings for someone else and then maybe tells him "I think the universe came to you a long time ago. You just didn't realize it yet.' She then walks off and leaves him wearing a pikachu face. And then with Eddie, he breaks up with Ana and tells her that she was everything he thought he wanted, was taught to want, but that he needs to reevaluate himself. And then she maybe says something like "I hope you find what you're looking for. Though I feel like you might've already have" and he does not have the pikachu face. Instead he just gives her a small smile and nods. And then season 5 we get the drama of the mutual pining and one of them keeping the secret about the love confession bc they have to self reflect and afraid of losing what they have and worrying what the other would think and blah blah classic fic angst that I can see them put in the show since they've done so many fic tropes anyways.

But again I do not see that angsty drama happening but I would love to see IG. I do would like for them to still have those scenes with Ana and Taylor to help confirm the mutual pining.

And with Eddie, I can really see him getting shot be his epiphany moment. Whether it's him realizing that he's in love with Buck, or that he already had somewhat a knowledge of having feelings for his best friend but pushed them aside. But either way I can really see this epiphany where he realizes that he can't hide himself anymore and breaks up with Ana. BUT he still just went through a trauma that effected both Buck and Christopher, and I would like for that to trigger his PTSD. So I would love for him to want to do something about his feelings for Buck but still needs time to focus on himself. Meanwhile Buck is there with them every step of the way. (Roommates era while Buck helps Eddie anyone??)

And on Buck's side, I would want him to maybe just realize his feelings so he's been digesting them for a few months and kinda freaking out about it. But at the same time there are things in canon that showed that maybe he was aware. Idk I feel like it could go either way and either way can see his current journey being that he also needs to revaulate himself and maybe also trying to see if Eddie feels the same way.

And in the meantime he helps with Eddie deal with his PTSD and they both kinds work in healing together and Chris as well. And if that's the case, then I would love for his they get together is a scene similar to the Kitchen Scene™ where they talk about the latest things go on in their life it's all very domestic while they're doing dishes or something and then Eddie getting shot is mentioned and that leads to them finally opening up and then rush into a kiss.

Or, maybe bc of still dealing with the trauma they kinda explode and argue in the kitchen which leads to one of them shouting "Because I love you!" Which immediately silences the other as they ask in a bewildered voice. If it's Buck who says it then I can see him try to retract it in a "you know as a bro" kinda way (of course he's not gonna actually say that but it's the vibe) but Eddie interrupts him and goes to kiss him. But if it's Eddie who shouts it I would want him to either be silent or be silent and then holds his head high and says, "You heard me". And then Buck proceeds to kiss him.

Oh! Another thing I would love is Buck's realization that he has feelings for Eddie makes him realize that he's not as straight as he thought and since he doesn't want to do anything that could risk losing Eddie (especially him getting shot my goodness) I would love if it s5 he kinda explores his sexuality a bit and starts dating Ravi. And we get jealous Eddie which leads to them probably arguing in the kitchen and a love confession.

Either way I want them to get together in the kitchen. It's a mighty need.

So yeah, as I said, there's so many ways that I would want it to go (some less realistic than others lol). But, my main thing is I would just love some kind of feelings confirmation or even hints of it in the finale. And for me I would personally want it for both of them bc there's been lead up for both of them having a realization. And then I would just love to see the Mutual Pining Galore while they help each other through the traumas. And then us watching and seeing how long these two idiots in love can keep their feelings in.

And none of none of these are probably that realistic, but tbh no how they do it, if they actually make Buddie canon (and endgame) then I would freaking love it with all of my heart (unless it's something that's messed up or idk which I highly HIGHLY doubt).

But yeah here's to whatever the future hopefully holds!

Thanks again so much for the ask :)

#buddie #kj gets an ask #this got super long oops #hope this makes sense I've been sick all day s so I'm s lil out ofit #udontfuckangie

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So I finally got to watch 4x08 and I have a lot of thoughts so be prepared for a long rant.

For starters I literally groaned out loud when I saw they brought back Taylor Kelly. I know that some would make the argument well the only reason you don’t like her is because you want Buck with Eddie. If Eddie didn’t even exist I still wouldn’t like her and I definitely wouldn’t want her anywhere near Buck. She’s incredibly self centered doesn’t care who she hurts at times and can be really manipulative too. Like how she went out of her way to hurt Buck in front of Albert and Veronica for no reason. I get it if she didn’t totally understand why Buck asked her there but she could have said that to him privately. She could have left without turning it into a whole big spectacle to make Buck look like a dick.

Then the stuff she said to him in the hallway was just totally messed up. Buck called her because he got roped into the stupid double date thing and didn’t want to look like a loser in front of Albert and Veronica but also it’s clear he’s been feeling lonely for a while and didn’t want to be the third wheel. He should have communicated more to Taylor what was going on with the dinner but nothing about what he was doing was malicious or manipulative to me, Buck can just be kind of clueless at times.

When they were in the hallway Taylor made it seem like Buck used her. That he basically wanted people to see him with “famous” Taylor Kelly the reporter. The thing is when Taylor got to the apartment she thought that her and Buck were going to have dinner and hook up. She was clearly planning on using Buck for sex like she has before, yet she accuses him of using her.

She called him needy and said that he can’t stand the idea of someone not liking him. To which he ends up apologizing. Watching this I’m like WTAF are you apologizing for Buck? This woman is trashing the shit out of you and you’re standing there apologizing?! I mean this is what I’m talking about when I say she’s manipulative. Like I said before Buck should have communicated better what was going on that night but it’s also not his fault that Taylor assumed he was calling her over for a hook up. I also don’t think Buck called her because she’s sort of famous and he wanted to look good or to use her, I think he didn’t want to look like he’s all alone when everyone around him has someone. He had seen her recently and talked to her about things he’d been dealing with so I think she was the first person he could think of to help him and likely the only one really.

Even after Buck tried to explain some of this to her and tried to be vulnerable about how he was feeling what does she do? She laughs at him then basically calls him a liar and tells him that he treats his friends shitty and his issues with Albert are his fault. Never mind the fact that Buck had opened up to her about feeling uncomfortable about his roommate dating a woman he dated and bringing her home to their house. Never mind the fact that Taylor knows nothing about Buck and his relationships.

I mean she says something earlier in the episode “your life is nothing but meaningful relationships” (talking about the 118) but that’s pretty obvious to anyone who meets them so I don’t give her much credit for that. Not to mention a while back she spent time in the firehouse filming so that was easy enough to see then. But the fact that she could spend time with Buck and he could open up to her the way he has multiple times through out the show and she could still make the kind of snap judgments she does about him or use him the way she does is just awful.

By the end of the episode the shows tries to make Taylor look like this poor sad woman who is dealing with so much and I think they were even trying to make the connection that she was also feeling alone like Buck feels alone. They also try to make it seem like she just wants to help people, again I think trying to connect her to Buck and his innate desire to help everyone around him but I don’t think she’s anything like Buck and I still can’t stand her.

I really hope people haven’t forgotten that this was the same fame hungry woman that was ready to air footage of Bobby (calling out to his dead daughter) and almost jumping off the roof when he had eaten laced brownies. She made it clear when we met her when kind of a person she is. That she was the kind of person who would probably sell her own mother if it meant furthering her career. The thing is I definitely believe characters who make mistakes or who start out as villainous or problematic should be allowed to grow and change (I mean some of my favorite characters are ones that have started out awful) but this doesn’t feel like a character that has changed. At all. The way she went out of her way to try and humiliate Buck in front of Albert and Veronica and the things she said in the hallway prove that. I’ll be utterly disgusted if they try to pair her up with Buck.

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I’m just really tired of how the show seems to treat Buck. I have no problem with characters going through hard times, dealing with others being awful to them, or even abuse. These are all things that happen in real life and can make for great storylines. But if you’re going to show a character repeatedly going through something it should serve a purpose, it should be leading towards something and I’m not sure if the 911 writers get that. I love the show but sometimes I feel like they’re just putting Buck through stuff for the hell of it.

Like we’ve repeatably seen women treating Buck awful which in an of itself isn’t a problem if it’s going somewhere. Like the show could use that as way to say Buck is always picking the wrong people and has problems with speaking up for his needs (likely because of his family). There’s a lot the show could explore with Buck’s relationships especially with him seeing a therapist. Unfortunately though we haven’t been seeing him talking to the therapist and especially after this recent episode where it feels like the same old same old (i.e. a woman treats Buck like crap and Buck apologizes) it just doesn’t feel like there’s a good enough reason they keep writing Buck’s storylines like this.

First there was Abby who I feel like used Buck in some ways to jump start her life back up and then ghosted him when she didn’t need him anymore. Then she didn’t even take responsibility for that when she saw him again nor did the show really let Buck call her out on how she made him feel really. Then there was Ali who knew how dangerous Buck’s job was when she got involved with him and did anyway then chose to drop him when he was going through one of the toughest times of his life. The show didn’t even do Buck the dignity of really talking about what happened with that relationship she just was gone by the next season.

There was Taylor who just used Buck for sex and for her career and who the show tried to paint as being like the female version of Buck which I thought was kind of bullshit. Buck has made plenty of mistakes in his life and he certainly was all about sex when we first met him in season 1 but in the first place Buck would have never sunk to the kind of lows Taylor has just for his career. Being a firefighter is everything to Buck but the 118 are like his family and he wants to be a firefighter to help people not just for fame or glory. There was the lawsuit but Buck didn’t even realize how much that asshole lawyer was going to go after the 118 and I’m pretty sure if he did he wouldn’t have done it. You can tell when Buck talks about it to Eddie how much he still regrets it. As for all the sex Buck was having it’s clear he was looking for a more meaningful connection and just hadn’t learned yet that wasn’t where he was going to get it. Not to mention it seemed like a lot of the women he was sleeping with were just using him to an extent like the therapist who slept with him. Buck is very different from Taylor who in my eyes is not a very empathetic or emotional person and seems much more about herself than anyone else. So the shows need to compare them really gets on my nerves.

Then there was his date with Veronica which was just ridiculous. My problem wasn’t that they had her be some strawman SJW feminist who got offended by everything it was the way they had Buck respond. As usual he wasn’t allowed to stand up for himself and just had to sit there and take the mistreatment.

It hasn’t just been in romantic relationships either we saw what Buck went through with his family and the show just kind of closed that off with Buck forgiving them for a lifetime of abuse.

I don’t get why the show constantly lets Buck get treated like crap by so many people around him and without standing up for himself no less. Like I was so angry about that scene in the hallway with him and Taylor. It would have been one thing if Taylor had lashed out at him (maybe taking her own issues out on him something she could have explained later) but the show still should have had Buck push back against some of the bs she was spewing. I’m tired of Buck having to hear how much of a failure he is. I’m tired of seeing Buck hurt by people he tries to let in. Buck would literally die for the people he loves. He almost has numerous times. So to hear someone like Taylor trashing him and telling him he wasn’t a good friend was so infuriating.

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I mean it’s not that everything with Buck is handled bad. I love the relationships he has with the 118 and especially with Bobby and Athena. Her and Bobby are almost like parents to Buck especially when it feels like Buck never really had the family he deserved and I love them for that. There’s also Maddie who has always been there for Buck and their relationship is so important. But the best relationship Buck has is obviously with Eddie. He’s the one who gets Buck the most and who Buck is the most himself with. Buck doesn’t have to hide or hold back with Eddie and neither one of them are afraid to call each other out when necessary.

I love the relationship Buck has with Eddie and I really want them to just get together already, though I know there’s no guarantee that will happen. But if the plan isn’t for Buddie to happen I wish that the show would stop dangling that relationship around every episode as a way to pull viewers in because it’s clear they know how popular they are. I especially wish that the show would be clearer about what they plan to do with Buck’s sexuality. I feel like there’s been so many hints since the beginning that Buck could be bi and I don’t know where the show is going with it.

I’ve seen people saying that Buddie isn’t going to happen and it doesn’t need to happen because there’s already other lgbtq characters on 911 and there’s a main lgbtq ship on Lone Star but I disagree. Buddie could still happen but even if it doesn’t the show could definitely still explore Buck’s sexuality. It would be so important to have a main male character who has been straight presenting on a popular prime time show come out as bi. There’s this misconception that representation in media for lgbtq isn’t that big of a deal anymore because there are so many lgbtq characters now but it is still a big deal and many shows still don’t feature lgbtq characters and storylines prominently nor do their stories justice. They definitely don’t when it comes to bi characters especially bi men.

To have a character like Buck have a storyline that would explore his sexuality would be huge. It would be even more huge if it was about him coming out as bisexual. Biphobia is a big problem not just from straight people but within the lgbtq community maybe even more so in some ways. Popular media rarely shows accurate good depictions of bi storylines. Even when there are bi characters on shows or movies we usually don’t get to see their journey like we have in media through the years with other lgbtq characters. We rarely get to see what it’s like to figure out you’re bi and to live as a bi person. As someone who is bi myself I really want this to change.

The show has made many hints to Buck’s sexuality and it’s something that they could easily explore. If they aren’t planning on going that route though I don’t get why they keep hinting at it. I don’t get why they’ve had multiple instances where people have commented on Buck’s sexuality or being with Eddie and he never corrects them. I mean once would be enough but what is the point of the show doing it over and over? I mean the Lone Star moment was just crazy to me if they don’t plan on doing anything. It didn’t just feel like a throw away joke moment especially since Buck didn’t deny it and Eddie came around the corner it felt like the show was saying something.

If the show isn’t planning on having Buck come out or putting Eddie and him together why does it feel like Buck and Eddie behave almost like a married couple? I mean they connect and know each other almost more than some of the actual married couples on the show. It feels like Buck is Chris’ other dad. I mean we saw Eddie going out with Ana but at the same time it almost felt like it did with Shannon like Eddie just trying to do right by Christopher and make sure he has mom. After the date the one Eddie comes home to is Buck. When Chris is upset the one he runs to is Buck.

If Eddie and Buck and Chris aren’t meant to be a family was does the show keep making it seem like they are each other’s safe space? It’s clear that the connection Buck and Eddie have goes beyond just being friends. It’s just unclear why the show has developed them this way and what they plan on doing with them now.

One last thing in this giant ramble. This episode was called “Breaking Point” but I feel like we didn’t see Buck’s breaking point. I’m hoping that all these bread crumbs are leading somewhere in exploring Buck’s sexuality maybe this episode title was a clue that Buck’s breaking point is coming. We’ve had lots of hints about his sexuality throughout the course of the show and this season in particular there’s been a lot of talk about how lonely he feels and how disconnected he seems to feel from everyone. So maybe we’ll get to see him talking to his therapist and exploring some of these feelings. Maybe if Eddie continues to see Ana Buck will end up feeling jealous and this will bring up feelings he hasn’t wanted to confront yet, about himself and about Eddie. Guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

#thanks for reading if you made it to the end #sorry these are always so long #911 fox #evan buckley #buddie #911 4x08 #911!#buck s4 #long post #911fan #taylor kelly*

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karenwilson · 3 years

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Buck and his romantic relationships

Honestly there is so much to dig into when it comes to Buck and his romantic relationships. There are some constants that can be found in nearly all of his relationships and some things that are constantly changing and evolving.

One think that strikes me about the women he has dated were strong and independent or arrived there at the end. Abby, Ali, Taylor, even Veronica they all stood their ground and were their own champions. They put their needs and mental & physical well-being first, something that society always expects women not to do. It's something I actually really appreciate about their storylines even if it comes with Buck being unhappy. None of the women set out to hurt him, they just didn't want to put themselves second. And that is perfectly okay.

But let's dive deeper into each of his relationships. Bear with me, it's a long one.

Abby Clark

Abby was his first serious relationship and now we know why. Due to his upbringing and his parents' abusive behaviour he never really forged any important relationships apart from Maddie. I think it got even worse when he got the jeep as he skipped from place to place, never staying for long anywhere. He didn't have ties anywhere and that made him restless and only seek out sex to forge some intimacy because that was all he thought he could get and something that would hurt him the least.

Anyway with Abby he was able to connect with a woman (one he wasn't working with anyway) on a deeper level. It only worked because it didn't start out as something physical. He didn't know what she looked, only knew her voice and good heart. I doubt they even would've met had it not been for the 911 calls, because they have so little in common.

Buck is actually pretty self-aware when it comes to his behaviour around women but hasn't really faced it before. That's why he tells her that he thinks it isn't a good idea if they meet, because he's worried he'll revert back to his usual coping strategies and it'll end up with him losing their connection.

But we also see that he's inexperienced and that although he knows how to seduce women he's lacking self-confidence in other aspects. He doesn't know unconditional love apart from Maddie and even that trust was broken when she didn't leave with him, when she left him behind. So he often worries he'll do something wrong and put her off; he goes over the top to get her attention - which he has done before in his life. Remember, he could only ever get his parents' attention when he did something big and reckless.

Abby has her own shit to deal with and Buck doesn't really know what to do with that in the beginning. It's not the light-hearted, sweet relationship he might have been hoping for but instead serious and heavy. But helped by Bobby's advice he works through his doubts and puts himself out there, puts Abby first. He always puts other people first, because that's who he is (and lbr, it's not healthy). Sadly to his own detriment because he is more invested than she is; Abby has her sick mother to take care of and is drawn in several directions at once. That's a heavy burden for anyone, especially someone working fulltime. She doesn't want to put her mother in a home as it wouldn't feel right but I also think it comes from a place of societal pressure for women to take care of other people. When her mother dies I actually thought it was a very real and important step for Abby to take put herself first, to take care of her own needs and do something that's vital to her claiming herself again.

I think Buck understands why she has to go but it still leaves him with the impression that he's never good enough, that people always leave. Because that's the experience he's made in life and nothing has changed that for him yet. And I totally get where he is coming from, that he believes it's his fault that she leaves, that he isn't good enough, that she doesn't love him enough. I do believe Abby never felt as deeply for Buck as he did for her but even if she did, sometimes love doesn't fix people. Abby was broken and exhausted and that's something Buck couldn't help with but that doesn't mean he wasn't enough.

She definitely did him dirty by leaving him in the dark and not giving him a clean break when she knew she was ready to move on.

Thanks to Maddie and the 118 he was able to partly work through those issues and put himself out there again.

Ali Martin

To be honest, Buck dating Ali came out of nowhere for me. Yes, they did connect a bit at the beginning of season two but I honestly didn't see her coming back as a love interest for Buck.

(And is it just me or do I just not remember it but Bobby stopped giving Buck relationship advice after Abby???)

But I thought they were really cute when they were together; the show just didn't make a very good job of establishing their relationship. They had to few scenes on the show but that was by design. I think the show never intended to keep Ali around, she was (sadly) just a plot device for the show to propel Buck's development. It established Buck's behaviours and the patterns in his romantic relationships. He years for deeper connections and a serious romantic relationship that he gets in too deep too fast. Buck doesn't do shit halfway, he gives it his all.

With Ali he was able to go the next steps of moving on from Abby, he had someone who made him happy for a while but of course the show had to reassert that people leave Buck, further damaging his self-esteem. I think it's perfectly understandable for her wanting to end their relationship at this point, when remaining in it would cause her too much pain and grief by always being worried about Buck and whether he would come home that night, would still be alive. That's a lot for anyone to deal with. So it was better for her to get out at that point instead of dragging it out and therefore making it more painful for both of them when it eventually ended.

But Buck doesn't view it as her leaving because of the dangers of his job but because of him. So yet another person leaves him because he's not enough, not right. Being a firefighter is important to Buck, he sees it as his calling, something he is good at and feels right. He defines himself by his job and that ends up doing damage, especially after the bombing and his subsequent leg injury. Buck feels lost when he can't do his job anymore because he feels like he IS his job. That's why Maddie telling him he's good enough and is worth everything even without his job was so important. His job is an important part of who he is but he isn't his job.

Taylor Kelly

I think with Taylor we saw the mere-exposure effect. Buck has a bit of a thing for voices as we first saw with Abby. With Taylor he knew her voice, heard her whenever he drove to work and obviously liked what he was hearing. And when he met her during that accident he was attracted to her not just by voice but by her looks as well.

Because of his dating experience with Abby and Ali and generally just trying to be a good person, he doesn't want Taylor to get the wrong idea. He likes her, possibly wants to get to know her more and doesn't want to leave her with the wrong impression. Taylor isn't having any of it, because she knows what she wants and what she wants isn't a relationship with him when they first meet. She's young, confident, successful and takes what she needs.

For Buck he has to cut the cord before he gets in too deep. He knows what he wants now and he doesn't want to fall back into his old habits of having sex and not having a meaningful connection. And if he doesn't get out he might fall too fast too hard already knowing it won't go anywere. Plus Taylor tries to expose secrets about his work family and quasi-dad and that would never work. Even if Buck wants romantic love he's not going to step on his 118 family to get it.

When they meet again more than a year later there are no hard feelings (whether that's amnesia on the writers' part or Buck has come to terms with her behaviour we don't know [yet]). Due to their previous actions Buck seems to think Taylor isn't a human being with feelings and hasn't been changed by the pandemic as well. I love Buck but it's ironic that he didn't want to hurt her in season two but inadvertently does so by using her as a shield in season four without her consent. I don't like what he did at all and Taylor was absolutely right on hanging him out to dry on that "double date" and calling him out on him using her like this, by not telling her what she was about to walk into. From her reaction we know he presented the situation differently because he (rightly) figured she might not come otherwise.

It'll be interesting for me to see where their relationship is going. I'd love for them to become friends and see where it takes them from there.

Veronica

I'm only including her for two reasons: She was Buck's first step to dipping his toe back into the dating pool again and acted as a catalyst to rekindle/change Buck and Taylor's relationship. Plus she also fits the strong woman type Buck goes for (although she additionally has a no-fucks-given attitude and isn't here to coddle anyone and their feelings).

To be honest, looking back on it Buck felt a bit OOC to me during their date. I mean yeah, he's just starting to date again and isn't used to doing it anymore and people change but... He didn't have a problem talking to Ali, Abby, Taylor or any of the women he chatted up with at bars and other places before. Why would he suddenly get so flustered? Even if they started on the wrong foot and he put his foot in his mouth... it just like it was put by the writers there for the laughs and not because it's how Buck would (re)act?? It just feels weird to me now. What did feel real to me was his need to impress her and makes sure she likes him, because Buck needs to be liked and he's really uncomfortable with somone not liking him and not knowing where he stands. He needs to clear the air now, to know what's going on so he can move on. After Abby and being left to doubt himself and being left in the dark about where they stand has left a mark on him (see also him making sure to talk it out with the 118 and especially Eddie after the lawsuit).

Well, that's it for now.

#911 #911 fox #evan buckley #abby clark #ali martin #taylor kelly #maddie buckley #anns meta #i kind of want to do this for his familial and work relationships as well #and also the way his and eddie's friendship/relationship has developed compared to that #but i'm tired

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shh-im-fangirling · 3 years

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Okay so, I just finished my "9-1-1" season 2 rewatch.

Here it is a small review.

2x01

- Chim, Hen and Bobby rightly in love with Eddie since the start 😂😍

- Buck's hatred against Eddie makes me laugh so much 😂😂😂 If he only knew.

- Eddie "You can have my back." Buck "Or you could have mine." 🥺

- Athena and Bobby ❤ Hen winning the bet about them against Buck and Chim 😂

- Chim and the calendar, he is a really hero 🥲

- Maddie my beloved ❤ Buck being supportive of her 🥺

2x02

- Christorper, baby, I love you ❤

- Mateo from Lone Star 😂😂😂

- The way Buck tries to calm Eddie about Chris' safety 🥺

- The coach with the guy 😭

- That Captain that helps Maddie with the pregnant couple 🥺

- That ending 😱

2x03

- Maddie is always crying 😂🙈

- Hen with the dog and the little girl 🥺 (I wish they had kept the dog longer then 2 episodes)

- Buck and Eddie's rescue is so well done and cool 💥

- The garage scene is beautiful 🔝

- The families reunions scene with "Heroes" in the background? Amazing 🥺😭 (Buck with Eddie and Chris)

- Michael bringing Bobby inside the house to have dinner with them 😭😭🥰

2x04

- This episode is my one of my comfort episodes. It's so beautiful: you can see how close the 118 family; how they help Eddie in the moment of need, how they treat Chris 🥺❤

- "Your boy crush on Eddie" Maddie knows 😂

- Chimney, Tatiana never deserved you 🖕🏻

- Carla the savior 👑

2x05

- "Kid's got a heart of gold." Athena in love with Buck 🥺🥰

- "I can help you out with the Swedish half. But no one told me which half that is." Eddie 😂😂

- Denny is a National treasure just like Chris 🥺

- Eva 🖕🏻 Hen was too nice with her!

- Maddie and Athena 🥰

2x06

- Another one of my comfort episodes.

- Maddie eyeing Chimney since the first moment they met 😂🥰

- Taylor Kelly, no, please 🙄 "I just don't like her." Bobby you are not the only one not to like her!

- When they are all high, that scene is my daily dose of serotonin, I laugh so much everytime I see it. 😂😂😂

- Poor Bobby 💔

- I hate Taylor 🖕🏻 I really don't get how they decided to bring her back, I mean, I get she loves her job but that doesn't give her the right to be insensitive 🙄 Also, Buck sleeping with her and getting with her after hiw she wanted to disrepect his family like that seems a bit out of character for me. I really don't like her, I hope she will leave early on in S5.

- The first Nash-Grant family photo 😭😭😭🥺

2x07

- Hen being a badass dismanting everything to save the guy underground 🔨

- Shannon 🙄 even tho she was a bit right tho, they both made mistakes...

- "You look cute, so I approve." Carla one of us 😂

- The horse 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💔

- Buck's letter 😢 (In my opinion it took him a bit too long to leave Abby's place.)

2x08

- Maddie and Chimney are just so amazing together 🥺🥰

- "I don't want to be Buck 1.0" but then he sleeps with Taylor that even makes fun of him for apologizing 😒 they made Buck take a step back in his grow on this one and it annoys me so much.

- The two man in love 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

2x09

- Hen's wig was so bad, I'm glad she burns it 😂

- I wish the writers hadn't forgot about Hen and Athena's two friends 😂

- Hen's speech 🔥 Chimney so proud of her 🥺

(- Hen found Cristina Young's shoe in the forest 😂😂😂)

- Hen and Chimney's friendship 🥰

2x10

- Eddie and Shannon are good parents but a really awful couple 👐🏻

- Micheal the wise 👑

- X: "You two have an adorable son." / Buck: "Thank you." Ookay 🥺😏

- The soldier and his family 😭 Buck is right, these reunion bring you to tears.

- Chris is a cutie 🥰

- Bobby and Athena engagement 🥰❤

- Maddie and Chimney are so adorable 🥲

- Doug 😱🤬

2x11

- Buck and Maddie are fantastic 🥺

- Maddie asking Chimney out and the 118 being happy for them 🥺🥰

- The kids storyline 😭 I love how Athena cuddles them 🥺

- Chimney, nooooo 😭😭😭😭

2x12

- Chimney used to sing karaoke alone and now he has Maddie 🥲

- Chimney at the firehouse on his own 🥺

- Mr. and Miss Lee are such good people ❤

- Kevin 😭💔

- Eli proud of how Chimney become an excellent paramedic 🥰 (I'm sad they never mentioned him again)

2x13

- Another of my favorite episodes.

- Buck's panic when he realize Maddie was missing 😢

- Dad Bobby giving his son Buck rules 🥺

- Jennifer Love Hewitt is such an amazing actress 👏🏻

- Maddie's strenght and courage are enviable. She won 😭

- The ending scene 😭💕

2x14

- Micheael was so unfair towards Bobby, at least he apologized.

- Chimney the savoir even from home 💥

- Chimney: "We just need a minute." / Maddie: "Yeah." * they kiss* "Just a minute." 😭😭😭😭 If they only knew what is in their future 🥺

2x15

- Kind of useless episode 😶

- The interregations scene is so funny tho 😂😂😂

- The way Micheal points at Hen when he says "We were trying to save Hen!" 😂😂😂😂

- Athena being protective of Bobby 😢

2x16

- "Your punishment is that you lived. Now, makes it worth a damn." And he will 😢

- The chicken scene 😂😂😂

- They guy that will blow up the ladder truck 🖕🏻

- Bobby making friends is so cute 🥲

- The priest being funny 😂😂

- The tradition of eating all together 😭💕

2x17

- Shannon: "I think I might be pregnant." well maybe do some tests before dropping the bomb and having to deny everything later 😒

- Bobby being everybody's therapist makes me laugh so much 😂

- She was all "I love you." and then she tells him she wants a divorce, she was being so fake!

- Poor Eddie 😢 He really wanted to try again 😔

2x18

- "It's about us... the three of us... choosing to make Bobby a part of our family." The love 😭❤

- Eddie's parents 🖕🏻

- Bobby the hero 🔥

- The people rushing to help lift the truck 😭😭😭

- Bye bye Ali 👋🏻

- Maddie and Chimney ❤

- Buck breaking my heart 😢💔

- Eddie's cerimony is so adorable 🎉🥺 The way he hugs Chris and then everyone have fun together 🥺❤

- Bobby and Athena's wedding 😭🎉❤

(Gifs @ web)

(S1 | S3 | S4)

#911 fox #evan buckley #buck #athena grant #bobby nash #chimney #henrietta wilson #hen #eddie diaz #maddie buckley #christopher diaz

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the-family-we-choose-118 · 3 years

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Why I Think Albert Doesn't Die in 4B: A Meta Post

Maybe this is me reaching or some really wishful thinking, but i don't think albert is the one who dies, though i think he does get seriously injured (explanation below the cut so hear me out lol)

Based on scenes from 3b, 4a, the 4b promos, and some interviews done after 4x08 about 4x09.

In multiple interviews (one example below ⬇), Tim has stressed that there is going to be a divide between Bobby and Athena because he feels that she's too independent and won't let him in when she has issues. 4b is being set up to build off of last season's attack at the storage unit. Athena has made peace with the attack, so it will take something (encountering the attacker, being trapped while looking for a suspect, a storage unit, or experiencing other trauma) to act as the catalyst to trigger her into needing Bobby's help but refusing to ask. Albert dying will in no way drive or affect this plot line and will only really heavily affect Chimney, Maddie, and Buck and maybe Chris and Eddie.

Tim did a different interview where he said that multiple characters will be in life or death situations ⬇

As far as we know from the promo Hen, Buck, Bobby, Athena, May, Eddie, and Chimney are working the crash and Maddie is shown at work going into labor or having false contractions. None are likely contenders for a life or death situation, which leaves the side characters. Since this involves a massive pile-up, and we already know that Albert is in one car, that leaves three others.

The scenario I see best playing out in term of writing and setting up 4b and going into season 5 is this:

Albert gets horribly injured in the crash and has a long recovery. (This plays into 4a when Taylor said Buck was selfish and has no real friends because he doesn't know how to treat a friend.) If Albert gets injured and has a long recovery, he has 2 options for care. He either moves back in with Madney (but they have their hands full with the baby) or he stays with Buck, who has had to recover from a serious injury before. By staying with Buck, he learns how to really care for a friend unselfishly (tho we're gonna ignore the Buddie friendship for a minute bc the writers did). This also gives them the opportunity to set Albert and Buck up in a friendship so Buck can have friends outside the 118.

OR Albert goes into a coma because the writers are playing with a lot of characters right now and I don't think they know what to do with Albert and how to give him enough screen time for anything meaningful to happen. This way, they can revisit his arc in the future. Also, imagine Chimney and Maddie getting ready to take their daughter home and stopping by Albert's room to introduce their baby to her Uncle Albert 😭 Putting Albert in a coma or giving him a long recovery time is something that could be revisited at the end of the season easily.

I think the 3 others in jeopardy are in one car and I think it is Michael, David, and Harry after going to dinner one night or something and I think they are at the center of the crash.

I think the person who dies is Michael or David, mainly because of this interview ⬇

First, they've brought in David, but like Albert's storyline, they can't fit him in enough for it to really be meaningful. We see them meet towards the end of season 3 and by season 4 they have quarantined together (even though David is on the front lines) and are now living together. Most of their story occurs off screen. The only reason we even saw Michael and David in most of 4a was because it was a storyline attached to Athena and Bobby. Killing off David is less characters to deal with and would affect Bobby and Athena, but not to a degree I would see it driving a wedge in their own relationship. It would affect Michael and encourage him to complete his bucket list he referenced in 4a but it wouldn't have an impact on the whole 118.

Both Bobby and Athena are really close with Michael, though I'm gonna focus on Bobby for a minute. If Michael dies suddenly, that "lighthearted and hilarious" relationship "quickly turns on a dime" and suddenly it "ends up being quite emotional" because Bobby is dealing with losing a friend. This could also dredge up those feelings of having lost his family in a fire and not being able to save them because Michael is now part of Bobby's family. Later in the season, it would be easy to revisit if Harry is mad that his step dad and dad's boyfriend weren't able to save his dad. Bobby would be dealing with his feelings of losing a friend while trying to help Athena (who doesn't want help) deal with the loss of her ex husband.

Shifting the focus to Athena, Michael dying would absolutely devastate Athena. They were married for nearly 2 decades and he is still a close friend and confidante. Losing her ex husband at the site of a crash she responded to would be traumatic. And if you compound that with her unresolved trauma from the attack, now you've got Athena trying to deal with everything on her own and not asking for help. Now Bobby gets mad/sad/distanced because Athena won't ask for help and he needs his own support from her. And maybe she is giving that support but she won't let him reciprocate it and now you have a recipe for anger and unresolved grief that begins to drive them apart.

Focusing on May for a moment, she became an operator because she wanted to make sure Athena was never alone in the field. Though I can't imagine her taking the call for Michael because he is on the line when Albert is injured, her dad dying in a crash she responded to would likely drive her out of the field and into college or another path (1 less character to have around to try to give screen time.)

Michael's death was also foreshadowed in 4a when Athena is concerned he gets the telescope and is spying on neighbors. He talks about having a bucket list that he never got to do because the pandemic forced him into isolation. He also talked about how his only concern during the cancer was preparing his kids for losing him.

Michael's plot is stagnant. He is happy and living with his boyfriend and son. He's cancer free. His whole plot is tied up in a nice bow where they could easily kill him off and the only loose threads to deal with on screen are his family members and friends grieving his loss. This would impact the 118 as a whole.

Honestly, I thought they were going to kill off Michael when he first got cancer and he decided to stop treatments but they bad May talk to him and convince him to go through with the treatments.

Now, by killing off Michael, it is 2 less stories they have to tell, and it is less they'll have to include storylines for Harry as much as they were because he was linked to Michael's storyline. And if they have May decide to leave the field to pursue other dreams or complete her dad's bucket list for him, that is 4 less storylines where they can now focus on the Madney baby, Bathena's relationship, introducing friends for Buck (they mentioned brining back Taylor), focus on ending Eddie/Ana, and establishing Albert as a character (based on a quote from the above article, I think Albert's storyline is going to parallel Buck's 1.0 to 2.0 phase ➡ "If you think about how we ended season 2, Buck being smashed by the firetruck. We knew he was going to survive... I would expect something similar here.")

Referring back to that first article, where it says "Then look for a significant source of agitation for the entire 118."

At this point, Michael would have passed and Bobby and Athena are now having marital problems AKA mom and dad are fighting.

Hen would be stuck in the middle because she is good friends with both Bobby and Athena. She is also facing her own loss of Nia being returned to her birth mom and doesn't have time for their marital problems but still tries to help. She can also pull from her experiences from the season 1 cheating storyline to tell them to communicate or it'll ruin their relationship (yes i too hate that storyline but it would work here)

Buck would likely (nonverbally) side with Bobby, but he sees them both as parental figures, so he gets stuck in the middle like a middle child who is just going with the flow. This would also parallel the Buck Begins storyline where Buck feels caught in the middle after his parents face a loss.

Chimney is raising a baby and (if this theory is right) worrying about Albert in a coma or recovering from a massive injury. He has no time for their marital problems but still lets Bobby confide in him and gives advice (maybe this is just cause i wanna see the bobby/chim friendship we used to get in s1)

Eddie sides with Bobby but he thinks the whole argument is dumb. He can also offer advice to Bobby based on his own experience, but it's going to be something about communication, at which point Bobby will start ripping his hair out because why won't she just tell me her problems and let me help?

Lastly, when have we ever known the show to go ahead and give a major spoiler of the episode 2 weeks in advance? They let us speculate about Daniel for like 8 months and imo it wasn't as big of a deal as they made it out to be. It seems more likely to me that they offered the promo to get the viewers with a twist ending when the show comes back.

Feel free to share your thoughts if you made it this far lol

TL;DR Based on the interviews Tim has done, Albert dying would have little impact on the 118 as a whole, but Michael dying would offer exactly what they need to set up season 5 and finish 4b.

#I should be writing a case analysis for school but instead I'm doing this #Yes that new promo ended me stop looking at me like that #It makes no sense to me that they would kill off Albert unless it is lazy writing #Though I hope ****** doesn't d word #If this doesn't actually happen I may write it in fic form because this is a very detailed outline lmao #The dig at Eddie/Ana wasn't meant to be mean #I saw she was auditioning for other roles so I don't really think she will stick around past 4b #She also barely posts about being on the Fox set anymore #911 spoilers #911 speculation #911 meta #thoughts are being thunk #I do not give permission to repost #<- someone on Twitter keeps reposting metas and other content without credit and I am tired #my posts

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So... am I the only one who feels like somehow simultaneously everything and nothing has happened this season? I know we got some BIG moments like The Breakup and Maddie leaving, but overall it feels like any individual or interpersonal relationship development (not just buddie) is happening slower than molasses. Like Hen, when was the last time they even acknowledged her med school storyline before last night? And specific to buddie, I would imagine the tiny steps they’re making this season are still likely imperceptible to the casual viewer when I had hoped/expected things would be at least a little bit more overt at this point. Lately I feel like so many important conversations or moments happen behind the scenes, and then we’re told about it instead of witnessing it ourselves OR they’re just never spoken about. Am I making sense??? I mean, it’s ultimately my fault that the reality of the episodes this season don’t meet my expectations because I get my hopes up too high with the teasers and speculation that comes from them. But the pacing is driving me nuts 😅 so I’m here because you always give me hope!!!! Do you think they’ll give us anything more overt before the winter hiatus? They’ll have to do something big to tide us over for 5 months, right? Especially since I noticed (on Wikipedia lol) that they‘ve had a decrease in US viewership this season. What do you think?

Hi Nonnie! Awwww, I'm so happy I manage to give you hope! *big hugs* I hope I can help this time, too.

I totally get what you're saying. I think at least a part of it is the fact that this is an ensemble show and the attempt to keep so many balls in the air, it results in part in the fact that this show has always something told its story by omission (such as moments when we gather Buck and Eddie fill each other in on stuff that happens to them, but we don't see it, or in 201, Eddie getting personal info about Buck, but only referred to, not shown on screen). That's why Hen's medical storyline wasn't addressed until 506, and we could only assume it's still happening in the background...

It's true that to the casual viewer, Buddie is still completely understated, but then I'm also sure that to the casual viewer, the break up between Eddie and Ana came out of left field. The show never spelled that there was actual trouble between the two of them, so viewers had to be very perceptive and/or very tuned into Eddie specifically (which most casual viewers wouldn't be) to gather that there was something off even before Carla had her say in ep 413. I actually think it's interesting that the show is more overt in telling us there's something off with Buck and Taylor than it was about showing that Eddie and Ana aren't working out, like... the signs are more explicit, you know? I do think we're headed for a B/T break up, just like during all of s4 I thought we were headed for a break up with E/A.

But will that cross over to showing us something more overt with Buck and Eddie that even a casual viewer would get? I find that hard to answer. I feel like a lot of things point towards YES, the storytelling most of all, but also the stuff you mentioned. 'Coz yeah, the logical moment to finally make Buddie happen is exactly when the ratings start dropping, but would they have realized the show wouldn't do as well when they were planning the Buddie story arc? IDK. After all, s4 has done poorer than s3 in ratings, but it did better in viewership ranks. I feel like everything since the shooting arc at the end of s4 is building towards something, IDK if it'll come to its natural fruition in 5A, but more than ever before, I feel like the odds are good and that the signs are all there... I've never been pessimistic, but I always tried to be very cautious and I am more optimistic than ever, so... I take that gut feelings as a positive sign, too. ;)

I really hope that helps, lovely! Have a great day! xoxox

(also, while I'm here, I hope the kind Nonnie who sent the ask about refreshing my blog saw the meta post! Please let me know?)

To anyone else who sent me an ask, I am going through all of them, thank you so much for your patience! If you wanna check whether I've replied to yours yet, you can have a look at my ask tag. xoxox

#buddie #buddie meta #911 meta #911meta #9-1-1 #evan buck buckley #evan buckley #eddie diaz #edmundo diaz #ask #anon ask #911 speculation #911onabc #911 on abc #911abc #911 abc

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littlespoonevan · 3 years

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“And I really do wonder how they’re going to find that balance now” I don’t think they’re going too. I would be shocked if we ever got a scene of Eddie talking to Buck outside of work again. Like look how close Bobby and chimney were in season 1, he literally helped him overcome his suicidal thoughts, but then in season 2 they both got love interests and their friendship was never focused on again.

unfortunately, i kind of agree with you, anon. i actually only saw a post the other day about s1 bobby and chimney and i’d completely forgotten how close they used to be! i’d like to think buck and eddie’s friendship wouldn’t be so completely dropped the way bobby and chimney’s was just bc the build up has been going on for so much longer (plus y’know all those rumours abt the season finale, buck having scenes with chris and oliver and ryan’s stunt doubles being on set suggests something’s coming up even if we don’t know what)

but i could definitely see their scenes being dialed down to maybe the likes of hen and chim’s going forward if they keep up with the love interests??? y’know in that they’re best friends and we 100% know that but it’s still rare for them to have moments outside of work. honestly, something i didn’t mention in my post but, again, is a big mistake from the showrunners’ pov is not finding a main character love interest for either of them sooner.

bobby and athena and maddie and chimney work bc they’re all main characters. you can sort of get away with a certain lack of build up bc we know them so it’s easier to fill in the blanks. the same can’t be said with ana/eddie or buck/taylor unless the writers intend to put in some major groundwork which...there seems to be some thought and effort going into establishing taylor as a character but ana? not so much. and it’s weird bc if they just wanted eddie to be in love and that be it then keeping shannon around for eddie would’ve actually made more sense?? like they made a very deliberate choice in having her not only ask for a divorce but then killing her off minutes later. and i can’t even say “oh it was to add to eddie’s storyline” bc honestly? they didn’t even linger on it all that long????? sure chris had nightmares about her after the tsunami for a couple of eps and eddie has one conversation with bobby but that was it??????

so if they wanted eddie to have a love interest they weren’t particularly keen to explore in great detail, shannon worked. you could accept it bc even if you didn’t know much about her you knew she and eddie were married and she was christopher’s mom and there was history (it would’ve functioned in the same way we don’t know much about karen but the relationship is already established so it’s easier to believe in it)

on the other hand with buck, i didn’t want him to end up with abby but it would’ve been beneficial i think to bring someone in earlier when she left - like another first responder - to establish as a potential love interest even if there was nothing overtly romantic the last 2 seasons (also i know exactly who i’m describing right now but i’m actually being serious askdjhsc) bc again, there’s a lot of work to be done to give him a worthwhile relationship now??? (which i don’t think they can half-ass like with eddie’s bc so much of his storyline has been building to this)

point is, now we’re 4 seasons in, the romantic storylines are only just getting started and screen time is already stretched thin. so i can’t see how that won’t end in either lack of development or lack of scenes for the og established friendships :/

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