#outgroup

[bobbyfiend]

Maybe I don't follow the right people, but tumblr has a tribalist vibe to it. I see so many posts like

"I love you people who X and you people who do Y" with photos of or references to teenagers and young adults only. Also they are almost totally white.

"Boomers will say..." or "cishet men try to ..." Yeah that's how you casually apply stereotypes: lumping everyone with a certain identifier into a tight little category. [note: I am not saying this is like prejudice/stereotyping applied to marginalized groups by dominant-culture people; I'm saying it's lazy and tribalist]

"These people are amazing" or "This person did a wonderful thing!" and it's always about teenagers, young adults, or (at most extreme) millennials. Never about boomers and almost never about Gen X, I assume because those are the competitor generational groups. It's OK if it's about people in their 70s because these are "old people" (as long as there's no recognition that these are literally boomers).

"How dare this person use a slur!? How dare they assume all of the people in my [understood generally tumblr-specific] demographic are all similar!?"

Anyway, that's how people are. It's how we think. It takes a lot of work to be any other way. I sometimes see posts here by people doing the hard work to think critically about this aspect of tumblr culture, and I also sometimes see them get shredded in comments.

Humans gonna hume, I guess, whether on reddit, on insta, or on tumblr.

#tumblr #social media #prejudice #stereotypes #tribalism #gatekeeping #ingroup #outgroup

[hellsitegenetics]

Hello, i made an aligment of a handful of your posts, threw it at CIPRES and now there is a bayesian consensus tree.

the all star post served as an outgroup. Sadly the resolution isn't very good but at least it shows that the upper 4 posts are more closely related to each other than the rest

nature is beautiful

#asks #tree #phosphoenolpyruvat #im curious why all-star is an outgroup #how did you figure this tree out?

[triviallytrue]

one of my fantasies is that someday almost every literate person will understand the concept of a selection effect

#wow you've seen more people in your ingroup get banned compared to the outgroups you actively avoid?

[flipchild]

listen... as the sole allistic person in multiple households now... I get it

#dungeon meshi #I understand I'm in the outgroup here but.

[avelera]

I had a revelation the other day that some people really think that being in the “right” fandom and liking it for the “right” reasons makes them automatically a good person, in much the same way that some people believe that simply reading The Bible every day makes them automatically a good person

#fandom #and for much the same reason and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the same people #or people from a culture where Bible reading is a sign of purity #instead of say doing good works or not actively harassing outgroups #purity culture is exhausting and gross y’all #and yes the use of the word Revelation was deliberate I crack myself up

[hyumjim]

That being said ofc I think that the way people talk about trans women Trying to Force Egg Crack or whatever is deeply deranged + transmisogynistic + evil. And I think maybe trans women are more likely to say it’s ok to suggest transfemness in part because they are aware of this narrative and want to push back against it. If that makes sense. So I guess I answered wrong because it’s not like I think it’s a bad thing to suggest transness re: either trans men or trans women, it’s just that I am afraid if I did that I might be killed with rocks

#also when I was a cis woman I think I probably would have answered differently cause I did not really have this fear LOL ^_^ #re: the outgroup polling….

[cheekedupwhiteboy]

i hate tumblr users i just searched flux gourmet bc its a cool movie with cool shots and cool costuming etc and i wanted to reblog some gifets. it is wall to wall reader x the character played by gwendolin christie fanfics........ girl i love you but get OUT lmao. did no one else like it when they boiled a pot of water really good. did no one else UNDERSTAND the damn movie!!!!!

#me and my friends are smarter and have better taste than everyone else in the world and i hope the outgroup dies and explodes tbh

[benevadeca]

Anyway trolls are literally birds. To me.

#trolls #mine #wb #<- guy literally working on a phylogenetic tree for their dumbass ppt and failing #also i think bergens are an outgroup of trolls. however wtf are mt rageons and whatever #crimp? is

[whatudottu]

You know I’m starting to fixate on something where I actually care enough about it to ramble something something- so let’s give it up for NSR! *tiny applause of me doing whatever the hell i want to do on this blog*

An odd thing for me though is that I’m specifically doing a whole character ramble and practically ONLY a character ramble so no biology stuff here (only slight astronomy). Please welcome to the stage, my scrimblo bimblo: DJ Subatomic Supernova!

As I once again shove aside my not only in-progress work but the ‘actually read to post’ work too, I’m here to spew words about my favourite egotistical space orb and not only am I going to do that, but also compare them to someone else of a unique mind. Because of both of their particular quirks about identity, self-importance, and ultimately expression of art, I like to think DJSS may share some grounds with Eve, perhaps enough to decently get along with each other if not even form a friendship.

If you’re one of my typical followers interested enough in reading this to get to here - the second paragraph UNDER the readmore - I will give a summary of the DJ and the Diva. DJ Subatomic Supernova, a space themed NSRtist with an ego so dense it can cause a singularity (which may or may not be an actual literal thing that has or did happen) and underappreciated ex-professor of university grade astronomy, strives to preserve their name and music to extend not only beyond their own time but for the future beyond humanity’s own existence in order to stave away fading into obscurity and truly becoming everlasting. In this battle of existential dread and their entire ‘Avatar of Earth’ schtick, we have a character who’s ego comes with a twist of not being selfish even though it is significantly self-centered, their motivations though using the medium of themselves being to create a legacy for humanity that will spread to the furthest reaches of the galaxy and back.

Eve meanwhile - real name Nadia - views the world in ways that seems only she can, seeing herself as the only one to understand the way she thinks and feeling so incredibly lonely in that fact - a realm of existentialism in of itself - especially since the one person that had begun the attempt had ended up losing thanks to his hair being set on fire. Expressing herself not only through her psy-dub music, Eve is an artist of multiple mediums from sound to visual, of sculpture, fashion, and paintings, many themes of her work centering on her personal experiences and insecurities, of eyes staring at her peculiarities and of turning those eyes against the viewer.

And what do you get when you cross an egotistical existentialist with a suffering surrealist? Maybe you get a little common ground to stand on. Perhaps not enough to satiate Eve’s personal desire to find like-minded brothers and sisters, perhaps not enough to bring Nova back down to Earth to appreciate the present for what it is. But perhaps enough that at least among coworkers, there’s even remotely enough broken ice to hold a conversation, perhaps enough that if in friendship, Eve may look towards the stars and Nova may look at the self of another.

Of course, this is not simply a character analysis based solely on canonical information, as it is now that I will elaborate (at least from the perspective of DJSS) with some headcanons of my own.

I’ve always been particularly an NSR lurker, not really doing much of actual engagement with the fandom but certainly sitting by the wayside and looking in. A thing that I have seen for folk’s take on a younger Nova is that they weren’t always a supernova one Bunkbed Junction away from going singularity- instead, they were a star. It’s always been one of the larger blue stars, but here I’d like to just go out and make it an O-Class main sequence star and be essentially a miniaturised equivalent; and when I say equivalent, I mean EQUIVALENT!

If you were an object head of maybe a G-Class main sequence star (the star itself significantly smaller than what it would actually be), you’d have on your head a miniature sun that would be a little portable and ultimately dimmer version of our very own Sol (or specifically if you had a G2-Class star which is more accurately our own sun). But if you had the misfortune of having an O-Class (O2-Class in this case for reference) star, with 800000 times the luminosity of the sun you’ve got a very VERY significant issue about just existing if you don’t wear something for the protection of literally anyone and anyTHING with eyes or cameras.

The ‘not yet named Nova’ Nova had to grow up early on wearing a super shaded helmet for the entire time they were star - already a thing one might be self-conscious about - up to and including the very moment they went supernova, another thing I must touch on. Depending on the size and general energy output of a particular celestial object - such as; a star - the point in time in which it collapses in on itself and, in the sake of stars, supernovas changes. And this particular case, let’s change a rather heard of saying for the sake of elaboration; the bigger you are, the faster you fall-

Not only was most of Nova’s early life spent hiding their star for the sake of other’s, anyone from astronomers themselves to any old star object head would say it was simply an inevitability that their star would collapse in on itself and become someone completely different, not a matter of if but when... and most certainly ‘young’ while it’s at it. Insecurities from being beheld a wonder to being seen as weird to even having adults already mourning their existence as a star, Nova may in fact turn to the stars above and retreat from the stars below in order to even begin to attempt to cope with their inevitable demise, embracing the existentialism and relying on their inherent knowledge of the astral sea to pursue a career in education. To teach people not to fear the end, the whatever theorised death of the universe, the collapsing of stars. To say that they shouldn’t be feared and shouldn’t be mourned just because they will change - and they will - and that the supernova that has been the subject of so much misplaced misery is in fact a dispersal of resources that can build to something much greater than the some of its parts.

And they are left unheard in the vast emptiness of space, of the classroom, of the home.

The inevitable happens, sparked early (far too early even for an O-Class) by a numeral amount of factors that would cause their world to spin, the light to bend, and an insurmountable level of stress and pain and misery and insecurity influenced supernova.

Too many lights and sounds and senses, DJ Subatomic Supernova particularly hates the design of Akusuka and Metro Division. Cast Tech, the district they hold Charter to, is low lit for a reason. Natura does not induce the swirling of senses, but DJSS has no particular interest in the gardens, for all the worth they put into Earth as a whole. And Dream Fever, something about the eyes that stare and the oddities that twist and turn.

Perhaps it is not their first choice to take in the work of Eve - of Nadia; the artist behind it all - it is not a reflection of their own story, nor does it reflect where they stand now. But there is meaning, meaning they can take in, take pieces of and relate them back to the past. The past that no longer exists, not if they have anything to say about it, not that they had any say in the first place. The artist Nadia, the diva Eve, the balance of the insecure and the expression. Reveling in the dual tones a much younger Nadia tried to hide (concealer rubbing off to reveal a hot pinkish red), the criticism of the viewer, to make the audience feel what had been felt constantly not entirely that long ago. A desperate plea to find someone that will listen, someone that will understand, someone that will hold their memory and share their story ad nauseam.

Perhaps there is something to share solace in, knowing that back on Earth there was another like Nova themselves seeking to engage to the world beyond them.

Though for different reasons, perhaps the two find even a slight solidarity with each other, whether friends or simple coworkers.

#djss #dj subatomic supernova #eve #nsr eve #no straight roads #nsr #character analysis #headcanon #to my tf ben 10 and td fans lmao oops nsr kicked down the dorr #i might not have the most amount of nsr folk here but hey listen i got some djss and eve solidarity here #i have been constantly thinking about nova for a few days now and only today did the comparison to eve come up #it's not that it's unheard of to have eve nova friendship in fact i've seen a few of those already #but i've also seen completely isolated (self-imposed or otherwise) nova that really does not deal with the other artists outside of meetings #i like both and i like each separately but i thought about how a dj diva friendship could happen #and because i really like to think about object heads in relation to everyone else in nsr #(i have seen others think about people like yinu's mama so if i happen to think of trees and plant stuff there's a jumping off point) #i really like to think how it must've been to grow up as specifically nova #in short: insecurities both from the outgroup AND the ingroup #probably why the fucker has a privilege pass to talk to them- folk would talk to them like something to mourn or just weird #they'd rather get money out of the schmuck ballsy enough to talk smack about the space dj #or if anything go 'so NOW you want to talk to me with respect? pay me for damages' #you know- full of spite #besides- out of the 4 other districts that nova has the physical ability to visit #dream fever (and natura) are the least visually and audibly intensive to deal with #natura may be a wonderful place (other than cast tech) to take a breather and a silent moment within the city #but it's not as if nova would have much interaction (in natura outside of meetings) with yinu or her mum #eve would be the one they'd likely run into- especially at a gallery and especially especially at a showing #also- djss is the only fucker to have not only light up clothes but a straight up gif #if anyone would pay attention enough to notice and intrigued enough to learn it would be eve the fashionista (among many other things)

[stopscammingartists]

Someone sent an ask recently where they claim to have talked directly to a current member of Floraverse who has been talked about on this blog.

We do not condone or recommend reaching out to people in the community and talking with them.

These people lie when confronted. I have reason to believe this person has in the past lied about things to protect the groups reputation. I hope they're not lying, and I hope you're not lying. but like, why would I take their words at face value when they are haphazardly told to me second hand through an anonymous message.

It borders on harassment and does not fucking help. The truth about these things tend to come out on their own eventually. Be patient and recognize that directly intervening will almost always make the situation worse. Especially if you have no prior history with them and are just a stranger contacting them about this sort of thing out of the blue.

I am unable to confirm the authenticity of an anon saying 'this person said this, trust me bro'. Even if the anon provides screenshots, singular one on one DMs where one of the parties is anonymous - are incredibly easy to stage. This is why I focus loggers in group environments.

Don't fucking do it. Leave them alone. Thanks.

#its a really good way to get blocked here #if they reach out thats one thing #but there is nothing to be gained from reaching out to them #it doesnt help make any dangerous or abusive situations less dangerous or abusive #cult members dont care for the words of those from the outgroup ESPECIALLY when they're some randos

[vitruvianmanbara]

god the idea that cis people never think about gender at all and are unambiguously comfortable with how they’re gendered and how gendered power structures operate has such a white american flavor to it and I hate how much "if you're thinking critically about gender at all you're probably not cis" has become an accepted talking point within online lgbt spaces 😑

#like I get that many ppl who say this are trying to encourage ppl who might feel like they don't have permission to explore gender to do so. #but when ppl start treating it as like a genuine framework for understanding gender.....🤡 #who cares abt encouraging ppl to think more deeply abt the violent colonialist origins and racialized aspects of gender #when you can do your silly ingroup/outgroup thing I guess 🙄 like come onnn

[shcherbatskya]

my dad was just like “you’re so pretentious it’s actually bad.” and then i asked him what he meant and he literally wouldn’t elaborate can he not say things to me i sort of feel like. terrible!

#logically i know pretentiousness implies an outgroup or like. inaccessibility to knowledge #which i try so so hard to not to do but. augh :/ #samael speaks

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[eldenringle]

I think we should stop saying things like "preferred" pronouns, disrespecting someone's gender, and using someone's "chosen" name when we talk about transphobia. It makes it sound like a reasonable choice or disagreement and not the denial of reality that it is.

I don't have preferred pronouns, I have accurate pronouns. Using anything else for me is a grammatical mistake.

I don't have a name and calling me anything else is wrong. I straight up don't answer to my dead name anymore and look purposefully confused if someone calls me it. Cause that's not my name. And calling me by it is getting my name wrong.

We know that disrespecting someone's gender is done out of transphobic hate, but I think it's time we start strategically ignoring that and treating transphobes like they're idiots for denying reality and buying into something that's obviously false. We need to act like trans women are women and trans men are men is the default state of thought, cause that's what normalization is.

Stop arguing with transphobes and start treating them like idiots for not getting with the program. I guarantee THAT will shame at least some of them into abandoning their active hatred cause all they're trying to do is enforce the status quo and convince themselves they're normal.

Change the status quo. Make them out to be the weird ones and it will do more than calling them hateful bigots ever did. Don't validate their hate, invalidate the reality they're trying to impose. Being trans is normal, and they don't get to sit with us if they think otherwise.

#watched another innuendo studios gamergate talk and it helpped me congeal some thoughts #i NEVER liked the phrase 'preffered pronouns' cause a prefference is too soft #we need to stop treating our genders like they're optional #it comes from transpobia and it gives transphobes too much leniency #trans is an adjective its not a noun #dont feed the troll #but if you absolutely MUST never play defense assume you're right and don't have to prove shit #thats what they do #bigots are so scared of the outgroup coming in you can break their brain by convincing them they ARE the outgroup #literally just question their bullshit and make them back it up and they'll crumble into whining #and slurs probably but thats why you dont feed the troll in the first place

[menalez]

If Muslim men are taught that non-veiled women are open game to harass sexually than it does make sense for non-Muslim women to fear them.

It’s not that Muslim men assault more women than non-Muslim men, but they tend to harass different groups. Men only harass women when they think they won’t face social repercussions. This is why men target vulnerable women so often, poor women, disabled women, black and brown women. Muslim men follow the rules of their community as well which leads them to target non “modest” women.

me, muslim-born and having never worn a hijab in a muslim country reading this: 🙄

#i hate that u guys argue that muslim men target their outgroup more as if most times im not sexually harassed bc of being a brown woman…

[antigonewinchester]

tbh I kind of find the whole X-girl descriptor exhausting at this point, and it’s totally a personal thing, just in how the descriptor becomes so much of An Identity and it’s assumed an X-girl will or must hold certain opinions on the characters. which can feel limiting. definitely cliquey in certain circles. part of it is just a fandom shorthand, of course, an easy way of communicating I like this character the most or more than the others. it’s just when it becomes so much of a Defining Sense of Self I get a little bit wary of it.

#also me: i am still a deangirl tho ✌️ #do i contradict myself? very well then i contradict myself #anyway fandom really shows how ppl will make Ingroups & Outgroups out of anything #and how that contributes to fandom wank for sure #fandom

[manysad]

I just don't reblog posts with unironic DNIs on them. Doesn't matter if not a single one of the things mentioned in the DNI applies to me (although it's kind of hard to tell when sometimes I've never heard of half the shit mentioned and sure as hell aren't going to look it up), I just think DNIs are ridiculous and I refuse to encourage anyone who puts them on posts.

#if they're in the blog description that's different #not that i think it's less silly or laughably ineffective because it still is but it's not quite as bad imo #like... any outgroups that are actually a coherent category and self-identify as such know who they are #but depending on who that is they might well not care about your blog ANYWAY and be driven away just by the content you post #and any groups that OBVIOUSLY DO NOT identify themselves in that way CAN'T be like 'aw shucks guess i gotta leave' #and probably more important YOU YOURSELF could belong to that group #putting 'racists dni' won't magically prevent you from being seen as one #it'll just mean everyone will judge you harder (and/or point and laugh depending on context) if or when you say something that qualifies