#peathers

[what-is-my-aesthetic]

WHAT WAS 2018 HEATHERS?

#2018 heathers #heathers 2018 #heathers #peathers #athena p #commentary #YouTube commentary #youtuber commentary #Youtube

[borealwolf]

#wylan rambles #polls #heathers #heathers 1988 #heathers 1989 #heathers movie #heathers musical #heathers the musical #heathers the movie #off broadway #west end #west end musicals #off broadway musicals #jason dean #jd #heathers jd #jd heathers #christian slater #peathers #heathers show #paramount heathers #james scully #musical #musicals

[fairydust-stuff]

heathers 2018 thoughts after a Heathers movie rewatch.

The Heathers were both privileged and were also disadvantaged by their lack of freedom aka being women who had to put up with abuse by each other/ the guys to keep their popularity.

So actually making them minorities for the 2018 reboot wasn't as far from the original Heathers format as people think. Both are privileged due to class, but disadvantaged due to being minorities.

Their also not the villians, relatible every day girl Veronica sawyer was actually the villian. People just reconstructed Veronica as the herowine because of her not like other girls vibe. The musical didn't help with this but I do like how the 2018 version made it clear Veronica and JD are the villians.

Yes, the whole cast is mean because teenagers are mean but Veronica and JD are the only ones who feel justified in takeing others lives. They aren't justified and that's the point!

The 2018 reboot captured several of the 1980s Heather's themes such as alienation, toxic complicated friendships, adults not listening, fear driving teens to cruelty, and people useing suicide for fame/ stroking their own egos. They didn't always hit the mark with every issue they covered but to pretend they did nothing well. Just shows a lack of anaysis skills.

Also, I love the decostruction of JD who was a played with archetype of the 1980's bad boy steriotype by being the villian of the story. By pointing out JD is in fact a Heather. A wannabe hungry for fame and attention who pretends to be acting for some greater social cause. Who is driven to seek attention by his own personal pain.

I'll take that JD over the wobbied musical version who is killing for love. (rolls eyes).

#heather duke #heathers #heather chandler #heathers 2018 #peathers

[gallyg]

Thoughts on Heathers (2018)

I am someone who doesn't really mind the existence of bad media, even legendarily bad media that exists in proximity to media that I hold dear. The Last Airbender is one of the worst movies of all time, but it does not offend me that it is an adaptation of a beloved animated series. At the end of the day, it's just another version of the story which did a few things differently. ATLA wasn't a story about bad guys who can shoot fire from their hands. It was a story that used those bad guys as a force of nature to oppose the heroes to say something about characters I identified with, and so it is not an affront to art that the film version takes away the bad guys' ability to generate their own flames. M Night Shyamalan thought those changes could make for an interesting alternative take, and it did not work for me. Oh well. At the end of the day, it is just a bad version of a good story.

I'm bringing up this extreme example of my being unfazed by a bad adaptation to demonstrate how serious I am being when I say Heathers 2018 is my new least favorite piece of media, and I feel genuinely hurt from having watched the entire thing.

Going in, I was only faintly aware of the show's reputation as a conservative comedy. The Heathers are reimagined as a gang of performatively woke progressives who use their clout as minorities to harass the white boys of Westerberg High with the threat of cancellation in order to secure their positions of power in the culture. This is a pretty big plot point in the first episode, and it is cringe, but it does not actually bother me very much. Past the first episode, the diversity of the Heathers isn't even really something that comes up all that often.

To be clear, I do hate how the Heathers are treated, but it goes a lot deeper than the show not being woke. Heathers 2018 hates humanity. Every single time a Heather experiences a genuine emotion, the show pretends that maybe this time, someone is going to learn a lesson. Every single time, it's a trick. Heather Duke faces transphobia and none of her friends stand up for her. She still yearns for their approval, and she is still denied. Her boyfriend Kurt is the only person on the show who gives her any respect at all, and she gets blackmailed into breaking up with him. She is malicious and insulting both in the moment and afterwards when she tries to backtrack on the breakup. When she thinks he's killed himself, the show pretends it might let this effect her in a real way for all of two minutes before she goes right back to her old self, exploiting Kurt's death in a power play against Heather Chandler. The notion of Heather Duke breaking away from Heather Chandler and forging her own path to fulfillment in Westerberg's social ecosystem is brought up constantly, and every single time, Heather Duke goes right back to this bullshit cat and mouse game. In the end, she dies alone and scared in a field of corn, with no friends, having learned nothing.

Heather Chandler is the same way. We see glimpses of empathy somewhere deep inside her a few times throughout the show, but it never goes anywhere. No matter how low she is brought down, she never gains the ability to empathize with anyone or care about anything in an authentic way. Heather McNamara kills herself and Brianna Parker attempts the same as a result of Chandler's bullying, and it doesn't faze her a bit. In episode 7, she enters a dissociative fugue state from the trauma of public embarrassment and begins trying to make amends to everyone at Westerberg, even taking Brianna Parker out for dinner.

Now, because this is a deeply misanthropic show, Brianna is constantly mocked for being poor. And because this is a deeply unfunny show, it comes across as strictly hateful. Still, it's obviously an improvement over Heather's behavior up until now. And it lasts like ten minutes before she's right back to her old self, worse than ever before. Her first reaction to what she believes to be a mass suicide is to leverage the opportunity to make one final claw at fame. And it doesn't even work. She is reduced to a footnote in Veronica's legacy, and everybody who ever thought of her as anything else is dead. One last spit in the face for the show's only survivor.

To put it bluntly, Heathers 2018 is a show about awful people suffering pointlessly. Any shadow of an implication that it might get better is only there to service the the Shepard tone of misery.

The character whose treatment hits me the hardest is Veronica. Veronica means a lot to me in the original film. I appreciated seeing a character with these horribly violent intrusive thoughts treated empathically by the narrative and have a rich internal life. When JD enters her life, he indulges these intrusive thoughts and attempts to make her believe that these thoughts define her, but in the end, she rejects him. She does not accept that some scribblings in her diary make her a bad person, and chooses instead to reach out to the people around her and have a positive influence in her community. It's a beautiful story. It makes me feel seen and cared about as someone who has struggled a lot with intrusive thoughts.

It's a huge change from the original, but the choice to make Veronica a more proactive killer in Heathers 2018 initially struck me as exciting. If the original film says that your thoughts do not define you, perhaps the reboot could take it a step further. As a young child with no emotional regulation skills, Veronica let the intrusive thoughts win, and she murdered her best friend. As a young adult, these same dark impulses still linger, and JD is the voice in her head telling her to say fuck it, indulge yourself. She does so, she likes it, and she has become even worse than JD by the time of this reveal.

Sure, I thought. The Heathers are being treated like absolute punching bags with no care given to their internal lives outside of being vehicles for pain, but surely Veronica, the main character, will have her emotional journey taken seriously. If Heathers 2018 is even distantly interested in respecting the spirit of the original film, Veronica will find some healthy avenue to be understood and redeemed. She will learn that she is not defined by the worst thoughts in her head, her worst impulses, or her worst moments of indulgence. Somehow, she will make it.

Of course, that's not what happens. The show teases out the possibility, of course. She essentially comes out as a psychopath to her friends, and they accept her. She tries to use her impulses for good. For about half an episode, it seems like she might be okay. And then the last episode happens. She becomes a monster, perpetrating one of the deadliest mass killings in American history more or less on a whim. There is no redemption. In the afterlife, she is totally alone, a lost soul wandering Hell forever, without even JD to accompany her.

Cool.

Look.

I love a good tragedy. I have been posting about how much I love Saw III (the one where everyone dies at the end) for as long as I been online. But there's no catharsis in Heathers 2018. It doesn't even feel like it's trying to have any. Everyone is awful, they're all awful to each other, and nobody deserves better than what they get. It wallows in this cynicism.

The Last Airbender is a bad movie based on a cartoon I like a lot. Metroid Other M is a bad game in a franchise I like a lot. Animorphs is a bad TV show based on my favorite childhood book series. I do not feel like any of these were made with malice. None of these stories hate me.

Heathers 2018 hates me. It feels like it was made with the intention to hurt anyone who ever identified with Veronica Sawyer.

#heathers #veronica sawyer #heathers 2018 #peathers #heathers 1989 #my posts

[llust4life]

shittiest thing abt the 2018 heathers reboot is that they didn’t make veronica a lana del rey listener…or they did. idk, i never watched it

#lanadelrey #peathers #heathers 2018 #veronicasawyer #heathers #heathers reboot #veronica sawyer

[skrillien]

my gender is paramount heather duke

#heathers 2018 #peathers

[abnormalpsychology]

But sir that’s my emotional support incredibly shitty remake

#bbge.text #rocky horror #yes. the fox version #it was my first time seeing it and I was a very very baby gay ok #don’t look at me #rocky horror let’s do the time warp again #rocky horror 2018 #rhps #paramount heathers #peathers #yeah ❤️

[heathers2018isgoodactually]

not saying that paramount should not have delayed the show the timing was truly very unfortunate and it was probably the right way to handle things especially after it happened more than once but perhaps the number of times heathers 2018 was delayed due to school shootings is an example of just how relevant the show really was and honestly still is and maybe we shouldn't treat relevance of topics discussed as insensitivity especially when mediums such as television and movies take so long to make that they really have nothing to do with any relevant tragedy that takes place between creation and airing other than being real world examples of the topics and themes discussed

#heathers #heathers 2018 #peathers

[girlwithnoface]

sad that im one of the 10 people that watched the entirety of paramount heathers because sad face emoji pill emoji is a really good sentence

#heathers #peathers...do we remember #like what a shitshow of an adaptation but sad face emoji pill emoji is ingrained in my daily speech

[rainbowtoothpick]

Heathers but it's a fictional true crime tv series investigating the 'suicides'. Maybe the crew starts the series trying to make a memorial or a suicide psa but then things get more suspicious over time.

#heathers #at least it'd be more interesting than peathers imo

[humanmosquito]

Fun fact: riverdale is a much better watch than heathers (2018)

#I’m on season 2 #and I couldn’t get through peathers ep 1 #post tag

[fairydust-stuff]

Heathers, Buffy dark comedy AU for Halloween.

So I was thinking about how Buffy was the popular girl changed by being the slayer.

What if Heather Chandler is a slayer due to season 6 creating multiple slayers with forty-year-old Xander and Cordelia acting as her Giles in 2010.

I'm thinking of a combo of the 2018 reboot in terms of the Heathers as a whole mixed with the eighties movie and a sprinkling of a few musical traits.

Heather Chandler

2018 Heather C has a lot of baggage and i think a lot of her characterization was very interesting. She is more feral than previous heathers. (She uses a cigar and hair spray on JD and nearly fries his face off!) So I think she could work as someone who slays vampires.

I also want to add some elements from the eighties movie. She's never seen in anything but red. And she does get taken advantage of/ used by others.Probly perfers Mov cocktails to stakes as weapons.

Heather Duke

The genderqueer icon of the 2018 reboot with the sassy one liners. But with their 80's movie/musical role as Heather C's punching bag. Rather then the favorite role. With them bearly makeing the cut as a heather due to being a gay nerd deep down. Their intelligence makes them quite the threat ,when it comes to dastardly plans aginst the forces of darkness.

Heather Mcnamara

Looks like her 2018 reboot self, but with the sweet, niave personality of the eighties movie/ musical. She can be mean but does it as part of the group and or joins the crowd in mocking someone. But on her own she is not going to be cruel. Also restoreing her staus as Chandler's favorite friend, right hand. Yes, she's also a cheerleader! And her flips come in handy aginst demons.

Veronica

She could be another member of the team. But, I'm leaning towards her getting turned and becoming the Heathers personal Angelus/ Faith. All the darkness and resentment from both 2018 and eighties Veronica coming to the surface. She'd be worse then JD knowing all their insecurities. She'd weaponize the crap out of their former friendship.

(I like the idea of her killing JD, i've had it with cool guys like you indeed! Because Vamp Veronica realizes JD is an abusive shit whose useing her.) Vamp Veronica still wants to distroy the system of westenberg.

Bonus, if its partically the Heathers fault Chandler made her get out of the car and walk home alone. Duke and Mcnamara never spoke up aginst this.

#heathers #buffy the vampire slayer #heather duke #xander harris #heather chandler #heather mcnamara #heathers 2018 #veronica sawyer #peathers

[artianaiolanthe]

Repeat after me everyone, "Velma" is just "Peathers" part 2.

Taking characters and making them "diverse" just so you can write them spout edgy woke comedy without being cancelled is not funny. Not fucking everything needs to be Riverdale. There's representation and there's tokening. There's no value in taking the Mystery Gang and trashing everything we know about them and expecting us to love it just because "(almost) everyone is a person of color now!" The series is bad because it's written poorly and solidly removed from the establishing characters not because everyone but Fred is not white.

Anyway everyone tag a trans creator you know who deserves the attention wasted on this series.

#anti mindy kaling #velma the series #support trans people #i know jessiegender needs support on YouTube

[skrillien]

"we're young. we're free. let's snort adderall make out and get slushies." say what you will about peathers but aside from being social justice cocomelon it's also got some of the greatest/worst fucking quotes in cinema history. also, this is something cringecore joel would say ftr

#i'm not going to lie #peathers is one of my BIGGEST inspirations in writing cringecore #it's bad. it's trashy. it doesn't make sense. everyone is minorities and out of character. but god fucking damn it is FUN.

[softie-rain]

Why Jason Dean and Heather Duke are clearly in love (with proofs) /srs

TW: murder, suicide, sexual mentions

I doubt any of you remember, but you know that weird awful post about why Jason Dean was bisexual? Yeah, that was me, on my old account.

I made another post, but this one is about JDuke explained in a 33 slideshow. With the collaboration of @deeplyshalllow , I present to you:

Some infos about this! I made it out of pure entertainment for me and my friend, and I really enjoyed doing it :)

I don't own any of the bootlegs or the photos I put in the slideshow, except for the last one of the cast bows which I personally took!!

Credits for the fanarts to their owner, I found them on pinterest

Please go watch Heathers (2018), it's freaking chaos but Peather Duke deserves everything 🛐🛐🛐

This is not the only thing I've been doing this summer but it did take me a month and a half to finish

All the ideas in this are mine and @/deeplyshallow!!

Honestly JDuke is my new religion (currently writing a Bonnie and Clyde au series with them on ao3)

#heathers #jason dean #heather duke #heathers the musical #heathers musical #heathers movie #JDuke #this is what happens when you don't go to school ig #if you'll ignore this I wouldn't blame you

[chansaw]

looking back, it's so bizarrely hilarious how paramount just... nuked peathers out of existence after delaying its release three times and then quietly airing the whole show over one week in october, except without the 10th episode where they successfully blow up the school. like, peathers was slated alongsides yellowstone and waco as one of the network's flagship series; yellowstone is currently in its 5th and final season with spinoffs/prequels in development, and a sequel to waco literally dropped a week ago on showtime. meanwhile, peathers isn't even available to stream on paramount plus or anywhere else on the internet because paramount pulled the distribution rights. karma baby :')