#persecutor alter

[divinerapturesys]

i am just so angry all the time

#did #actually did #did stuff #did system #trauma #did osdd #dissociative identity disorder #osddid #osdd system #persecutor alter #aspd thoughts #aspd feels #antisocial personality disorder

[reimeichan]

Helping Alters with Persecutory Behavior

Persecutors are a part of the system, whether you like it or not. Trying to pretend otherwise very often results in people getting hurt and the persecutor acting out anyways. Even non-persecutors may engage in actions that are harmful or destructive. So how do you help an alter who displays persecutory behavior?

This post got pretty long, so I'm putting the things under a read more.

1. Be respectful

All alters and parts of yourself deserve respect. Respect is not bending over backwards and being nice at all moments to them, nor is it believing everything they say no matter what. Respect is merely acknowledging they have a right to exist alongside you, and with that right to existence means a right to have their own thoughts and feelings and emotions, should they have any. You don't have to agree with everything. But you should not demean or belittle them simply for existing.

2. But also, be firm

Many persecutors and alters with persecutory behavior do not understand how their behavior hurts others or even how their behavior hurts themselves. To protect yourself from further harm, it's important to stay firm with them and establish rules, guidelines, and boundaries with them.

3. Try to understand why they behave the way they do

This is a tricky one. Oftentimes, persecutors don't fully understand why they act and think the way they do. Many may even argue that they simply "enjoy hurting others" or something to that effect. Always try to dig deeper. Are they bored? Is it some form of maladaptive behavior or a trauma response? Do they not know any other way to communicate? Sometimes the alter or part may not even know the answer(s) themselves and it's important to try to explore these questions with the alter.

4. Do not force engagement with the alter, but do acknowledge their existence

This ties back into point #1 a little bit. Persecutory alters often aren't team players and don't do well being forced into doing things with other alters. However, the answer is not to ignore them in these cases, but to simply let them be. If they wish to retreat further into the headspace, let them. If they wish to be left alone but continue to be co-conscious, you can try to engage in activities they may find interesting to show that you care about them. By acknowledging their existence but also respecting their own boundaries, you are helping to establish trust between the two of you.

5. Help find healthier coping strategies and redirect unhealthy behaviors

Many alters with persecutory behavior act the way they do because they don't know how else to express their thoughts and emotions. You can help them be heard by finding ways for them to communicate in less destructive ways. If the issue is less about communication and more about coping, you can widen their coping toolbox by introducing new coping methods and strategies.

6. Be willing to listen, but don't force them to open up.

Alters will open up when they’re ready to. Trying to force persecutory alters to speak up often results in them feeling hurt, scared, frustrated, or distrustful. Establish a sense of safety by showing you are non-judgmental of their thoughts and feelings, and eventually they may open up in their own time.

7. Meet them where they're at

Not all persecutors are the same. Some like a challenge and are more willing to communicate through yelling and argument. Some would prefer for you to poke and prod as much as possible before they finally open up. Some don't want to be seen as if they're hurting or traumatized. Whatever the case may be, take any of the above as guidelines for helping persecutory parts and not as hard and fast rules.

8. Don't forget to take care of yourself

Above all else, take care of your own needs. If you're not in a situation to be able to handle a persecutor or an alter with persecutory behavior, then don't do it. If you feel tired or burnt out, take time to recuperate. Helping the other alters in your system takes time and effort. Growth and recovery don't happen overnight, after all.

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[persecutor-punk]

Shoutout to the persecutors and other stigmatized alters who arose out of cults and other organized high control environments. We're often seen as unpalatable but we're still here. We're not alone

#pers punk #did #osdd #alters #ex cult #persecutor alter #persecutor #programmed system #ex cult system #ramcoa system #ramcoa survivor

[violentdyke]

I'm so angry at everyone and everything. I feel connected to no one. not even other cluster B's. The only way to feel alive is to be around other people but I either want to be mean or have everyone to stay the fuck away from me. I'm so unlikeable. I resent everyone and trust no one. Why am i alive.

#txt: transcribed #vent #cluster b #bpd #npd #aspd #persecutor #persecutor alter #violentdyke

[heavyskysystem]

Do you ever love an alter so much it hurts.... it hurts.. I love you so much. youre so strange and so different from me.. but I love you so much for that.

#vent #did #multiple #dissociative identity disorder #plural #protector alter #persecutor alter

[asteroid-sysblog]

*A safe space for everyone who identifies as evil, problematic, or villainous...*

link

Are you a kin of someone evil? An introject from a problematic source? A persecutor who has done "bad things" for the right reasons? Someone who just generally identifies as villainous?

Welcome to Vilanon! We offer a space to discuss these lived experiences in a healthy and open way, without judgement.

We have:

- A large mod team, who take their responsibilities seriously, and work to keep this server a safe and open environment!

- A question of the week (we didn't have enough ideas for a QOTD, LOL) based around villainous questions!

- Optional roles to be pinged for VC, picrews, and being asked questions about source!

- Channels for different types of villainy, as well as for things like plurality, disabilities, queer topics, and for littles, to offer a safe environment younger system members can talk in!

- An open and welcoming environment!

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[nikitasys]

(Kita is our host, & Jasmine our persecutor)

When I feel confident in the DID diagnosis & suddenly out of nowhere I'm convinced that I'm faking, there's a good chance Jasmine is just doing her thing lmao

- Kita, host & caretaker

#did system #actually did #did alter #did stuff #did awareness #we still love each other though #traumagenic system #traumagenic did #system stuff #system shenanigans #did memes #dissociative identity disorder #persecutor alter #host alter #system caretaker

[anon-asking-for-advice]

Hi. We. Uhm. Need help. Specifically with a persecutor. We’re. Not the best at handling shit on our own. We make enough rash decisions without our friends telling us to force this persecutor into dormancy. So I thought we’d turn to Tumblr for. Advice and input. Before we do anything rash.

This sounds like a reddit post already. Eugh. Bear with us here, I beg of you.

Persecutor [P]

Ex-Host [Ex]

Therapist Alter [TA]

Motherly Alter [MA]

Caregiver [CG]

Protector [PRO]

[P] has been known for having violent thoughts, puppy guarding [Ex], and even going so far as to harm [TA] after he tried to separate [P] and [Ex].

[P]’s got multiple sources, one being [MA]’s source son and another being the old friend of a [CG].

We admittedly put [P] into dormancy once before, but he recently was triggered out. He was found in front by [MA] and was immediately coddled and protected. [P] apparently sobbed to her that he didn’t want to go back into dormancy. The two were eventually found by [CG].

[MA] was unintentionally/somehow switched out, leaving [CG] and [P] alone together. [P] continued to cry that he didn’t want to be taken away, referring to [CG] by his nickname that only close friends ever called him. [CG], understandably stressed, regressed to a younger state; a state in which he and [P] used to be friends at. [P] then also regressed, begging [CG] to not let anyone force him into dormancy, swearing he wouldn’t hurt anyone again, begging that the rest of us do anything except force him into dormancy.

[PRO] eventually found her way to front and forcefully separated [P] and [CG], threatening to “knock [CG] out and drag him out of front”. This didn’t bode well, as the minute she did, [P] went absolutely ballistic on her. [P] then immediately checked on [CG] before leaving front and getting away before anyone could do anything to him.

Our friends insist [MA] and [CG] were being manipulated and used through their attachments to [P]’s sources. To me, [P] sounded genuinely afraid, though.

I just. Fuck. I can’t fucking tell. I’m exhausted.

I don’t know what to do.

#this feels like an R/amitheasshole #and i wouldnt be upset if this was compared to such #sysblr #system advice #plural system #plurality #pluralgang #plural community #alter vent #forced dormancy #persecutor #persecutor alter #system persecutor #system help

[problematic-alters-unsilenced]

Not sure if there's any rules for what we aren't and are allowed to say, but I'm a 12-13 year old sexual persecutor in our system (deemed persecutor because my sexual behaviours can be harmful) and I love the idea of this blog <3 /platonic

((the body is not 12-13, its like 19))

Thank you!! We have a group of alters who have "proship" stuff in their source memories. In the show they were introjected from they're siblings, but in their source memories they are not bio related and are dating. I know we'd totally get bombarded with hate for that though, so we made this blog to let people who are scared of hate or stuff like that talk about their issues.

I am so glad you like our blog!! ^^ you are very much welcome here!

#anti endogenic #anti endo #actually did #persecutor alter #did osdd #did #did alter #osdd system #did system #actually osdd #dissociative identity disorder

[reimeichan]

I was having a conversation with @artisticdysfunction and a few others the other day in one of the servers I'm in, and the topic of persecutors came up. And how most people see persecutors as stereotypically aggressive, edgy, rude types.

Persecutory alters can come in all shapes and sizes and behave in any way. They can be incredibly peppy and polite in a toxic positivity sort of way. They can be shy and introverted to the point they refuse to open up to anyone. They can be be friendly but reserved while in the background they mess with thoughts and memories in a way that hurts the system.

I'd argue that any alter can be a persecutor, or at least engage in persecutory actions, in different circumstances.

What's important is trying to see where these hurtful actions stem from and then trying to address the issues together, as a team. Helping each other out, listening to each other, giving each other space to express yourselves in healthy manners.

#dissociative identity disorder #did #actually did #actuallydid #did osdd #osddid #cdd #persecutor #persecutor alter #did system #by green #as a persecutor with more stereotypical traits #I'm well aware of what the non-stereotypical persecutor looks like #and they can actually be even harder to work with if you don't know what you're looking for or working with

[persecutor-punk]

Open response: If you're a persecutor or have a similar role and have anger issues, do they relate to each other? If so how so? Do you consider yourself an anger holder or not?

I'll go first. I see my anger as intrinsic to who I am but unrelated to being a persecutor. It's just an instinctive response to what goes on and how I view things. I don't consider myself an anger holder but I do have a short fuse and hate being patient, so I can relate to some who are anger holders

#pers punk #persecutors #persecutor #persecutor alter #maladaptive protector #did #osdd #alters

[violentdyke]

THIS BLOG IS 18+ ONLY.

About Me 💀

I am Ithe. They/It/He/She. Bodily 22. Persecutor alter and ex co-host. Previously dormant. Nonhuman, agender, and aromantic. I am averse to love.

This blog is my outlet. I am autistic, and psychotic. I have anger issues and volatile emotions. I often lack remorse, empathy, and compassion. I experience violent urges/fantasies and homicidal ideation. I am a suicide, abuse, and psych survivor. I am trying to become a better person.

I have no DNI. If I don't like you I will just block you.

---

Something wicked this way comes.

#txt: transcribed #pinned #cluster b #psychotic #psychosis #paranoid #anger issues #bpd #npd #aspd #plural #persecutor #persecutor alter #system #agender #aromantic #homicidal #abuse survivor #ventblr #vent blog #mdni #minors dni #18+ only

[heavyskysystem]

How to unstuck a trauma holder

First of, unstucking a trauma holder and grounding them from the persistent emotional pain and constant re-experiencing of trauma they suffer under can take a long time, but there are techniques that can be used to help ground them.

Breathing techniques

Breathing techniques have proven to be quite helpful in grounding an distracting from the emotional anguish. The focus on nothing but the breathing, and on being aware of how the breath moves through your body is very helpful in creating sensations that keep the alter in the here now. Yoga Breathing | Alternate Nostril Breathing (youtube.com) Box breathing relaxation technique: how to calm feelings of stress or anxiety (youtube.com)

Setting up an inner safe space

Setting up an inner safe space can be very helpful and grounding for the alter, they can set it up themselves following simple instructions to do so. This place can then be always visited to practice allowing positive feelings of safety. It can be a place filled with symbolism for their positive qualities, or be something very simple without many details. If they arent capable or willing to create their own inner safe space, you can also attempt to do it for them if they arent against it, this can feel like a gift to them because you do so with the best in mind for them, thinking of what they like, and what what might make them feel safe.

Grounding Exercise for Anxiety #7: Creating a Safe Place - YouTube

Somatic therapy/experiencing

To proccess their trauma emotions, and to feel more at ease with their body somatic experiencing can be very helpful guided and somatic experiencing that just comes to you. Like the alter that might not have spend years in their body using both of their hands to touch their legs, arm, belly to get used to their body again and to feel grounded within it. For them to explore how their body suits them and how it feels nowadays, to become aquainted with how the body differs in the present. Guided Somatic experiencing can lead to the processing of trauma and expression of it, since a lot of trauma-holders are stuck in one or more trauma responses doing this can also help heal their sympathetic nervous system and allign them to get out of their trauma response. A lot of the time trauma holders are in so much pain that merely speaking about their experiences will not help them, theres the rule that once your level of distress reaches a certain height you can only change emotions via emotional reasoning and no longer via rational reasoning, so you have to find other solutions than intellectualizing or talking.

Somatic Practice for Trauma and Stress Release (youtube.com)

Trauma informed Yoga

Similar to somatic experiencing, allows you to proccess repressed emotions and feelings stuck in the body that otherwise cannot get out and cant be intellectualized out

Trauma-Informed Hip Opening Yoga for Emotional Release | Trauma Informed Yoga (youtube.com)

Art

Poetry, drawings, music and every creative endeavour you can think of can be helpful in letting a trauma holder proccess their trauma and emotions. I have heard that one over and over again as being one of the most helpful ways of coping, their trauma holder didnt know where to put their anger until expressing it into art, and so on.

Following the emotion You lie down in bed, get comfortable and just let you and your trauma-holder in co-con follow the emotions and anxieties your trauma holder feels, this proccess can take a long time. You just let every emotion come and go and feel it to your fullest. This might cause strange bodily sensations like a current running through your body, body party to go numb, or sensations of pressure. Its important to be kind to each and every sensation and emotion. When you start feeling the emotion in the body like that you first start to appreciate how powerful your emotions truly are. At the end of this you may cry tears of real relief and feel a bit lighter.

Grounding excerises

10+ Mindful Grounding Techniques (Incl. Group Exercise) (positivepsychology.com)

there are multiple ones to use, they often help redirect a little bit and to get you or them out of a flashback.

All of these things take practice and repetition, you cant do them just once and expect your trauma holder to be free of their symptoms! It takes dedication.

#DID #dissociative system #dissociative identity disorder #actually traumagenic #trauma holder #protector alter #persecutor alter #plural #plurality #plural community #did support #did resource #did help

[system-of-a-feather]

To preface this, this is not at all meant to be a response, retort or anything to the post on this topic that had us internally talking about it and quite frankly, that post is fair and they have a right to say it, so our direct commentary on that will end there

But when the topic of "unforgivable parts" come up, Riku and I always look at one another and go ".... ehhhh" and have a short sentimental giggle cause as far as parts doing horrible shit to another, we both have piles of dirt on the other that we wouldnt be wrong at all for being angry at each other about. I'm a lot more of a typical sounding "ex persecutor" (I dont ID with the term because I dont agree with the term as a role in the first place beyond system community common verbage) but a case could be made that Riku was by far a worse one - a thing theyd admit. The whole dynamic of ours is why we threw the role "persecutor" out the window and changed it to "persecutory behavior".

But anyways, we really fucked eachother up pretty bad and as far as other "persecutory" parts go, we've had some really really shitty internal interactions, one of which can be partially "blamed" for the reason "Riku" as a part is a subsystem - but honestly? I don't think our system has ever found something that was "unforgivable" if solely on the account that there really doesn't seem to be anything that we could do to one another that would allow us to foster that sort of self hate at this point in our healing as a system.

That being said, not all systems are equipt to handle the more extreme persecutors, not all systems are able to hold the understanding that even their most "atrocious parts" are still them, and just in general, the mind set is not practical or fit for every system in every situation and while theoretically you shouldnt force persecutors silent or whatever, chasing theoretical ideals when living as a system is honestly how you probably ended up with DID.

The need to live to a theoretical healthy standard and best practices is good and important to keep in mind, but you have to leave space for the reality of the moment as well as the genuine experiences that come with it and work with what you genuinely can give at the moment. Trying to work above that, 9/10 pushes and reinforces an EP/ANP divide that is foundational in DID so its important to learn to accept that while you know the theoretical healthy and best thing to do, from time to time you have to accept that you AREN'T perfect and can't live to an ideal perfect standard of healing and that you first have to focus on the reality of your moment and what you can bear right now.

You are allowed to experience your mental illness as a mental illness and honestly, people who criticize you healing "imperfectly" really need to focus on themselves and their own life rather than people on the internet (exceptions apply imo but thats another topic)

... lol this post went an entirely different way than I intended, cause I was originally planning on talking about persecutors and the nuances of their behavior as I'm our systems "persecutor wrangler" but I think what ended up being said is more important anyways lol

Anyways, thats my gym cardio ramble of the day.

#alter: xiv #persecutor recovery #persecutor alter #actuallydid #dissociative identity disorder #xiv rambling #xiv rambles #jock posting #cardio rambles #recovery #healing