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moistmailman · 4 months
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Akechi: I did all the terrible things to get revenge on my scumbag father who abandoned me and my mom, who was a sex worker that killed herself. What about you?
Adachi: I was just bored and hated women.
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kastillia · 2 years
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fine, i'll give you a show... don't blink now.
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lesbian-empress-nero · 4 months
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im gonna talk about how disturbed p4g the animation's accomplice ending makes me feel.
its so so heartbreaking seeing yu ignore his concerned friends. it seems so out of character for him because he's always there for his friends and he's always putting on a smile for them. seeing him just going to his breaking point is so sad. the scene with him at the park (i think its a park) where hes just... blankly staring at the happy people. he bumps into someone and doesn't say sorry. he's just empty. its very clear to see that he is following adachi's decent into madness. not knowing how he should live if he has nothing, not knowing the point of life. he pushes everyone away even though they care about him. I see very clear parallels to the adachi centered episodes where adachi throws out everything yu gives him. he eventually meets with adachi, knowing that they're feelings are the same, deciding to go the accomplice route. i hate adachi's manipulative ass so much. guilt tripping yu into burning the letter, which i see immediate regret in his actions. the way he attacks adachi after he does it shows how angry he is at not only adachi for manipulating him but also at himself. the scene where he walks back home from the station and just completely breaks and screams makes me want to cry. i love yu so much and i hate seeing him this way. and it only gets worse when his friends start to drift away from him. they start to not show up to meetings. everyone clearly knows something is missing in the case but they can't do anything. in the scene where they see adachi in junes, all of them look away. they KNOW its him. but they dont have any evidence. also this scene is so disgusting to me. seeing adachi manipulate yu outside of just burning evidence is horrible. its disgusting. yu clearly doesnt want to help him out but does he have a clear choice? no. he has to be his accomplice now and there's no going back. he has to do whatever he says even if its buying expensive ass sushi for him and getting in trouble with dojima. adachi's manipulation is clearly draining yu and nothing is done about it until its time to leave. no one bothers to chase after the train to say goodbye to yu. they just stand there, i think knowing yu betrayed them. and they'll eventually turn into shadows.
i hate this ova, but its so... thoughts. i love it.
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m0e-ru · 5 months
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want to take a crowd vote and see how people see Marie. You don't necessarily have to know the game or anything about her at all. Just look at her from her promo art, game screenshots, spinoffs, merchandise, etc. Just pick out the very first color that comes into your mind when you see her. Alright? Thank you foryour participation
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ari-blueberry-bloop · 2 months
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Marie says fuck your SP
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werewolf-cuddles · 1 year
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can we please just have ONE discussion about Persona 4 that doesn't fucking revolve around these two characters, god damn
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Looking at some screenshots from accomplice vs golden ending (or bad vs good endings, in general) I noticed that in the first case Yosuke is the last element in the group to speak, while in the second case he is the first one (and he really does not have much to say cause he knows they’ll meet in the future):
In bad endings, Yosuke is the last person to speak. He thanks the main character for the help, yet the vibes are just depressing and sad. The fog wasn’t lifted, the real culprit wasn’t caught (or they believe they caught him but it wasn’t the right person. tbh it gets more disturbing in the accomplice ending case, because the main character found the truth, but he decides to hide it from the others and to reject it (by burning the piece of evidence), and, Yosuke’s words will hit harder “You really helped us out with lots of stuff. Thanks, partner.” <- Yosuke always there, making me feel bad every single time i try to reach Adachi - rightfully tbh), no Dojima nor Nanako nor Teddie there at the station. It’s all gloomy, everyone is sad...because of Nanako’s situation, because of their own actions (if they kill Namatame they kinda do the same he did, manipulated by the killer, and in the name of self proclaimed “Justice” <- Nanako’s arcana, which is just revenge and has severe consequences), and/or a feeling of uselessness because the mystery wasn’t solved. No one runs for the train (the mood is really heavy, and the fog also reduces the visibility).
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In the good endings, Yosuke is actually the first one to talk and... he does not even have much to say. He had previously said that he wouldn’t even saying goodbye, cause Yu/Souji would be probably come visit them soon. The mystery was solved, the sky is clean, Dojima Nanako and Teddie are there too, and even if saying goodbye is hard, they all feel like their bonds are strong and that their friendship is stronger than ever. It’s a sad moment but with happy tones, and they will surely meet again (the same won’t probably happen in the bad endings, because even if not revealed to them, the fog will spread and everyone will become shadows).
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Yosuke’s expression is kinda similar in both cases, but knowing what has happened in the bad endings gives another meaning to his expression in the bad ones (it also makes me think about the scene where he catches Yu/Souji coming from the TV at Junes, after visiting Adachi, because it begs the question of how much does Yu/Souji trusts the team).
Yu/Souji’s stare is a bit different in both cases, looking more relaxed and calm in the good scenario, although in the bad ending he seems to be staring with some kind of affection (like, appreciation for their friendship and for believing in him, even if, in the accomplice ending he basically fucked everything up).(well, truth be told, they decided to recycle this part for every bad ending, so Yu/Souji will always look like that, being it his belief that Namatame is the killer or his hidden secret about Adachi. And the team looks the same, be it because of the unfortunate circumstances, or because they may feel Yu/Souji might have been hiding something <- which also reminds me how in many game options Yosuke keeps reminding him that he should not be the one carrying all the weight of the investigation and he should trust the team too)The accomplice ending final scene even adds an Adachi roaming aimlessly (or purposely crossing the line when the train Yu/Souji’s in is passing), and it is terrifying, kinda creepy (tbh it felt like he had became a shadow at that point and that he had been able to cross the line without being caught by the train because of that...at least it was what i felt first time watching it).He is waiting for the world as they know to simply end, and even if Yu/Souji decided to burn the piece of evidence, he does not even care about him as a person.On the other hand, completing his social link in a good ending route rewards you with a letter from him (and he calls Izanami bitch in the final final final final battle <3 certified Adachi moment).You can take his words however you want, but it feels like he truly appreciated the times he spent with Dojima, Nanako and Yu/Souji, even if he would still rather see the world burn than try to improve as a person. It does not mean he becomes a better person afterwards, but i guess he understands the concern some people still had for him, which is something he does no feel with Yu/Souji betraying everything he fought for until that moment (also cause going accomplice route is giving up the world, basically).On a final note, I also love how Dojima’s dialogue at the end (before leaving the house) changes depending on which bad ending the player gets, and how his questions are so on point, as if he was acting like some kind of conductor for the player to reflect on their choices.
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m00nlight-woman · 1 year
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So I've been playing through persona 4 golden lately, and I absolutely love how close all of the gang feels. Like, I love that they all hang out with each other outside of their goal of finding the murderer (they group up whenever they can, and hang out with nanako too!), I love that we see characters well before we get properly introduced to them (like naoto, rise, and mitsuo), I love that they feel like friends and not just people who happen to all know the mc. Like I love persona 5, but goodness, they don't feel like they know or like each other AT ALL. If the mc wasn't there, I don't think any of them would even LIKE each other. Persona 4 focuses on the relationships between the cast and the world around them, while I feel persona 5 focuses on the villain the group is facing. I hope we can get P4 friend group with P5 graphics and gameplay for future titles, because that would be great :)
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pr1ncesspopstar · 1 year
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As of tonight I have watched/read/played every piece of media in relation to the base story of Persona 4 and here is just a random grab bag of thoughts from that experience. Spoilers abound, mostly for the animation and manga.
-the best way to experience the story outside of just playing the game, if you want to do what for some reason, is reading the manga then watching the Golden anime. The OG anime is a lot of mediocre to bad with pockmarks of good, not worth a full sit down.
-that said if you want to watch some of the OG anime go with all the episodes up to Yukiko being saved (1-4), mitsuo’s dungeon and the summer vacation duology right after (11-14), the justice and hierophant focused episode (18), and then all of endgame (21-26).
These episodes either do a really good job expanding on what was already there, introduce new ideas and scenarios definitely not possible within the constraints of a video game, do a super solid job covering and even improving upon iconic and memorable moments in ways only the medium of an animation retelling can provide, or just have fun or funny bits. My fave is def episode 13, where Nanako becomes a little detective trying to investigate Yu’s hectic life.
-I really appreciate how each version of Yu is wildly different in these medium’s. P4A Yu is kind of a dick and lame at many points, but has the capacity to be open hearted. Manga Yu starts as cold and distant but eventually becomes an emotional and expressive individual that fights for his feelings. And P4GA Yu feels the ‘manliest’ of the bunch with very strong convictions and a level-head with no fear to speak his mind or thoughts. A lot of tiny differences to enjoy.
-there is the consistent fear of abandonment and loss of friends in Yu’s character each series captures so differently but uses nonetheless. P4A Yu also abandons the truth because of his fear and even develops a shadow that represents that. Manga Yu goes between acting rashly and angrily or withdrawing and hiding his hurt when confronted with the possible loss. P4GA Yu gets emotional and trapped in the idea of what’s the point if he risks using everyone, feeling a burden of needing to protect those bonds at all costs.
-also the fact Yu is 100% ride or die for any wild scheme, even the ones he knows won’t work is a trait I’m glad exists in every version of him. He’s just happy to be involved.
-Also Adachi, the supplementary material really made me finally appreciate Adachi as a character. After interacting with him in the game I was never too sure how to feel about him, but the anime(s)/manga finally helped me grasp his character and how I feel about him. As well as why I see the various interpretations of him that I do.
-Marie being included in more things in the Golden animation was sorely needed and a welcomed addition. When the Investigation Team was saying how Marie is also their friend I could not help but think how the team as a whole had only met Marie around 5-6 times at most through her social link. By putting her in more major scenes this actually made her feel like an unofficial member of the group and I believed they were friends.
-I very much enjoyed the way P4GA handled the unification of Izanami’s two halves. I’m probably just a sap but I very much love concepts of accepting the rage and hate-filled parts of yourself and that binging them joy and peace, quelling that fury. Izanami can be quite the tragic character from interpretation to interpretation, so to see them take a stance where it’s not a fight but a comforting hug given by Marie to Izanami that defeats her, I’m a sucker for it.
-Yu needing to free Marie from a bamboo forest and the ultimate Persona associated with Marie being Kaguya is Good Symbolism and Foreshadowing™.
-while it was definitely only done for cool factor in the manga/anime, but within the context of game mechanics Adachi being able to control and get aid from multiple Reapers in his dungeon is mortifying.
-I have come to the conclusion Yukiko and Rise are mini-gremlins in two different fonts. Yukiko will do and say the silliest to the wildest things because it brings her joy. Rise is attention seeking in a pampered cat kind of way. I cannot expand on this sadly but I hope the vibes can be expressed.
-Naoto being very perceptive but socially oblivious and one track minded is actually quite funny and charming. This is best illustrated in the Christmas episode of which I will say no more, it’s a fun little experience.
-the ‘ame-no-sagiri’ in shadow Teddie’s head’ contributed nothing to the plot/story though. Kinda actually takes away from shadow Teddie tbh but that’s more a nitpick than anything.
-the anime shadow fights are good, but they are GREAT in the manga. They feel so much more personal and productive than ‘beat the thing so it goes back to normal so you can accept it,’ while also carrying they same wonderful flow and dynamics you can see in the animation.
I might post more thoughts if I have any later. I could do an analysis but tbh I would just be repeating what a lot of people have already gone over. I’d rather focus on my own projects because this means now my research is done and I can start writing my fanfiction! I’ll talk about that more later. Can’t wait to share it~
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starmanddy · 2 years
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They're family your honor.
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ghost-vessel · 1 year
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*Looking at Naoto* You know what fuck you, my cannon now he uses pronouns interchangeably in the japan version sooooooo now she uses it in my cannon to
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moistmailman · 4 months
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Persona 4 Myriad Truth: *a deep metaphor on how we should always seek the truth as oppose to living in a blissful and ignorant lie*
Persona 5 Myriad Truth: The truth is, this is going to fucking hurt.
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Because Persona 4 Golden is being released on more systems than the PS Vita and because Persona and Hatchetfield Universe are pretty much the same when you think about it.
Kanji: If you make one more crack at me, I’m gonna do something to you.
Yosuke: Oh yeah, Kanji? What are you going to do?
Kanji: I’m going to kick your head.
Yosuke: Oh. My head?
Kanji: Yeah!
Yosuke: Not my ass?
Kanji: Yeah!
Yosuke: All right then, let’s see it, huh? Kick my head! Come on Karate champ! I wanna see you kick above your waist. All right? Show me that roundhouse. Show me that sweeping crane kick that your kung fu master taught you.
Yu: Okay, you two calm down. Yosuke, Kanji’s not going to kick your head.
Yosuke: Why not? It’s the most vulnerable part of the body. That’s what Sensei Kanji taught me.
Yu: Okay, it was a dumb threat. Stop rubbing it in. I’m sure if he could do it over again, he’d say ass.
Yosuke: Uh-Uh. Uh-uh. You know, if you wanna kill a snake, what do you do, huh? You cut off its head. Where does the fish rot from? The head. Take out the head and the whole thing goes down. That’s why a fisherman goes for… the head. *Kanji lightly slaps his hand* Owwww, come on, Kanji. Come on!
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lesbian-empress-nero · 6 months
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the way atlus made THE most banger song in persona 4 and only put it in the persona 4 the golden anime as background music
pls listen to ying yang from P4GA 🙏 (spoilers tho)
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minty-trash · 1 year
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Hmm... I was just thinking about Yosuke, Chie's, and even Teddie's shadows. None of them were dressed all that differently from the person they reflected, and they all showed up in a different person's area. So, why did they? Is it just because they didn't show up on the midnight channel? Is it because their shadows weren't very strong? Were they going out of their way to seek out the IT? (I believe Teddie's was.) Did Yosuke's and Chie's show up where they did just because they were close to the victims?
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thepinkbitchfics · 10 months
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P4 trying desperately to get me to avoid the bad ending:
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My dumb ass: Ok, I know it hasn’t worked the past three times we’ve pushed him into the TV, but if we just try it one more time with feeling
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