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lotuspeacock · 1 year

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what the fuck even happened episode 8????

like, plotwise i know what happened but like there’s so much new info i’m processing.

rei dresses like that not for the professionalism of the job, but because his father expects him to look high-class even when he’s murdering people

anna’s musical talents literally traumatize children.

rei’s father has a god complex about his bloodline

the “organization” is more or less run by rei’s father. this is why kyutaro said that rei should know best what happens when you betray the organization, because every childish rebellion was treason on the organization.

rei doesn’t get too close to kazuki because the consequence if he does are dire.

side note: when rei says he has something to protect, he’s not just talking about miri. there is no mistaking that kazuki is precious to rei.

when rei is asked “did you find true belonging on the outside” he denies it. this is probably because he wants to protect kazuki and miri but it could also be because rei genuinely believes that he doesn’t truly belong in their little family. i believe this changes by the end when rei sees that kazuki and miri were waiting for him just to see him smile.

this is from a few other posts i saw, but rei’s mission was a warning. a peek into the consequences of forming attachments.

a continuation of point six, we see rei standing in his family home, feeling completely estranged while he’s on the phone with kazuki and miri being told to be back by dinner.

rei never seemed to be affected by his job before. but in the car with ogino he expresses shock at the picture of his mentors murdered wife. and the picture seems to be taken in the goriest way. rei is opening his heart to his family and as a consequence, he has to face the reality that he is not just killing, but taking lives.

“for the concept” WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN???? this man makes me so uncomfortable he is so goddamn psychotic. he definitely kills for fun even though he pretends its some big philosophical thing. essentially he was saying people exist to die. also his fucking blue eyed stare 🧿👄🧿

WAIT WAIT WAIT THEYRE TOTAL FOILS OF EACH OTHER. rei and his mentor that is. they both have that single slut strand.

miri is extremely insightful. she notices when someone close to her is hiding their dissatisfaction with life - what she calls “sadness”. her mom was dissatisfied with her life as a single mother and rei is dissatisfied with living under his father’s boot.

rei didn’t tell ogino his mentor’s last words because they weren’t meant for him (but probably also cuz ogino is a creep sob). rei “didn’t hear” anything because the words were directed to someone already gone.

this is less a plot point but more a personal analysis - i was sorta hoping that kazuki would show up during the fight and save rei, and he does! he saves rei, but not during the fight because that’s not really where rei was struggling. rei needed to be saved from his own belief that he was irredeemable, and kazuki did that perfectly bu showing rei that no matter what, he’ll be there. unconditionally. i mean, the man didn’t even ask about all the blood on his suit. (another i won’t ask i wouldn’t tell moment)

kazuki cut rei’s hair and decorated the apartment. when rei said “but then you suddenly started cleaning”, he’s saying that he didn’t care about kazuki until kazuki taught him how to care. when kazuki barged into rei’s apartment and cleaned the blood stained hands of a child assassin, he also cleared a space for himself in rei’s life. (side note: of course the undercut was kazuki’s idea)

“you think we can change?” god this was such a good quote. and the way kazuki doesn’t put up a front and say “of course” because he’s trying to figure out if he can change too, so he just says “dunno” but its so sincere and hopeful. i love the dichotomy of kazuki not knowing if he can change because he’s spent the past 4 years trying not to and rei not knowing if he can change because he doesn’t know how to. at the root, it’s because they both see themselves as unforgivable.

continuation of points six and eight, rei smiles when he’s home with his family.

oh my god the angst just doesn’t stop.

#meepmoop #buddy daddies #kazuki kurusu #rei suwa #miri unasaka #kazurei #my roommate is behind me pregaming with her friends and im writing an organized list of major plot points of the anime im obsessed with #good news i found food and i have energy to blog now!#my hp is at 100 now fr #this is my longest post ever #no ones gonna read this but i wanted to write it

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creme-meme · 11 months

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for me, the most interesting thing about Miguel is that he clearly was capable of being happy, genuinely happy, in the alternate universe where he replaced the alternate-him who died there. the flashbacks and the video footage of him with his alternative-universe daughter show him smiling and just... happy

and while the unintended destruction of that alternate universe is a tragic arc in his character, I don’t think that alone can ever fully explain why He’s Like That(tm), because it takes someone deeply sad and broken to leave their own universe and masquerade as an alternate self in the first place, to replace a child’s father and act as the parent that the child loves (comic Miguel has issues with Alchemax and his mutations that turn him into Spider-man, so maybe the film will continue along that line since we see him injecting himself with something)

I just think it’s interesting to look at his interactions with Miles from that perspective, bc Miguel had disastrous first-hand experience attempting to force a happiness that he didn’t “deserve”, a happiness that wasn’t “canon”, and since Miles’ existence as Spider-man isn’t canon either, Miguel’s past experience is projected directly onto Miles’ determination to “change canon”

I mean he did ultimately throw hands at a 15 y/o, but as we all know a lot of the Spider-people are Not Okay(tm)

#Spiderverse #Across the Spiderverse #Spiderverse spoilers #Miguel O'Hara #Miles Morales #Spider-man 2099 #Spiderman 2099 #Spider-man #Spiderman #tagging this as spoilers bc of the major plot point #idk just food for thought

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carnivalcarriondiscarded · 3 months

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the absolutely Vivid reality based chronological dream i had last night. man

#i got a job at like... an automobile warehouse or something?#we had to change a large trucks tires...#and i was sent to get some more from across the block or whatever #and its more complicated than that - there were conversations and interactions with people etc #and i was trying to find it but it was all like... in this corridor shopping mall?#the signs were western themed and listed items that you could get in that store #though i think it was all free?#anyway at some point it opened into a restaurant and i had a friend there who was carrying a plate for people who left prematurely #so i of course started shoveling it into my mouth - free food! but their manager caught us #and i had to be all 'hey i work around here im just lookin for tires and no one was gonna eat this anyway'#it was like... a rice/mango/cream thing...? strange because i dont like mangoes!#long story short i had to go back for the tires bc i wound up forgetting them. something about a dog....#i was too late in getting the tires so i had to go sort rubber bolts instead :/ at least the warehouse was cool #absolutely unprompted #but it was very. linear. and it felt very real. like it was genuinely a place and a job that could exist #like i remember what the outside loading area looked like. the packed restaurant. the corridor. the warehouse. the lockers. the hallway #IF I HAD A BETTER MEMORY I STG I COULD MAP IT OUT #god i love my dreams. they're always plot based and im rarely myself <3

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lord-squiggletits · 2 months

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NGL I think one of my least favorite "gotchas" that I see/get while critiquing stories is "so how would you fix it? oh so you don't have an idea of how to rewrite the story to make it better? oh so basically you're just complaining that you don't like it and don't have actual critique."

Buddy.

Sometimes the reason I don't have a "solution" to how the author should've rewritten their story to be better, is because I'm not privy to the author's thought process, what their alternate story ideas were, what they talked about with their editor, what they might've been forced to do by deadlines, or even what they might've thought they were writing towards at first but then later changed the trajectory of their story to be about something else.

It's all well and good for me to say something like, idk, "I think Character A should've gotten more narrative focus because their story could have helped fix XYZ Plot Hole," but it could very well be that the author never intended for Character A to be a prominent character (just a secondary or tertiary character). Maybe using Character A to solve one Plot Hole would've gone against the writer's plans because then it would open up a different plot hole for something else they had planned later in the story. If it's an ongoing story, maybe something I see as a "plot hole" is actually a deliberate mystery that the creator left open to write about later-- or maybe the plot hole is because there was a deadline crunch and the author had to drop a certain character/plot point/etc because they couldn't fit it into the story any more. Maybe having Character A be a more prominent part of the story is just based on MY personal tastes and what I would want to write in MY version of the story, but completely clashes with the characters/conflicts the author wanted to focus on.

Because yes, there are some story critiques that are as simple as "part A doesn't make sense, you could just fix it by doing B", but there are also some story critiques where suggesting a viable "solution" would require BEING the author or someone involved in the production of the story to understand what limitations or plans were involved in the selection of that flawed plot point. There are also some story critiques where even if there is a "problem" and my critique offers a "solution," there could be another "solution" or even dozens that do just as good of a job fixing the issue, but involve vastly different characters, plot ideas, so on and so forth.

Being a good critic isn't (just) about going "the story would've been better if X happened" because the story is ultimately in control of the author and their vision, and without knowing what the author's vision was (something that you almost exclusively know if you're 1. the author or 2. their beta reader), it's impossible to definitively say "this plot point should've been cut/[completely different thing] should've happened instead" because THAT is the point at which you're complaining, not critiquing. I would argue that in some cases, trying to "fix" a story yourself actually makes your critique worse, not better, because it ends up being a case of you simply imposing your artistic vision over the author's to say "I think it would've been better this way."

At least if you just say "this part of the story was flawed because XYZ" without saying "it should have been ABC instead", then you're stating your grievances with the story without being presumptuous enough to assume that YOUR version of the story would fit the author's original vision, or the constraints they were working under, or the other versions of the story that they were debating over at the time before ultimately settling on one version (even if flawed).

There's a point at which "this plot is flawed, that should've happened instead" is just fix-it fan fiction and not actual critique that could help the writer write their story in a way that fits their vision.

#squiggposting #discourse #i think the closest you can get to definitively saying 'the author should've done X instead'#would be something like JRO and the handbooks he recently released where he actually revealed alternate plot ideas #or like what the reasoning was behind different plot points. as well as what he did and didn't include and why #because THEN with a more clear understanding of the behind the scenes/what the author wanted to achieve #THEN you would have more information to be able to say 'this alternative storyline would've solved this plot hole'#or to even say 'actually those alternate ideas weren't as good and picking the canon flawed plot made a better story'#like for god's sake ppl apparently don't understand that art and storytelling and creativity are subjective #sometimes if i don't have a solution it's not bc my critique is invalid. it's bc there's multiple ways to fix it #and i'm not the author so idk which way of fixing the story would best suit their intentions/purposes/limitations #despite what snobs seem to think it's very possible for you to say 'this is flawed' and not know what the fix for it is #it's like how you can eat restaurant food and go 'something about this tastes bland'#w/o having to know what ingredients went into the recipe or how it's supposed to taste #and in that case unless you literally know the recipe or are a chef you would come off as a dick #if you tried to dictate to the kitchen what they did wrong and how to fix it #for some reason story critics are terrified of ambiguity and uncertainty and subjectivity and idk why #it is very easy and not intellectually wrong for a person to say 'this is flawed' and not have a solution for how to fix it

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spagheddiediaz · 8 months

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snippet/several sentences sunday/saturday i didnt do this yesterday so i am combining them today Hello

tagged by @forthewolves who LOVES to put me on the spot?? @theotherluciferr @watchyourbuck @wikiangela @wildlife4life @jeeyuns @alyxmastershipper @giddyupbuck @disasterbuckdiaz @hippolotamus @thewolvesof1998

i wasn't going to do this bc lately i feel like i'm sharing the roommates fic more often then i'm writing it however here is a tiny lil snippet heh

Eddie tilts his head from where he was slouching on the couch, his mind still a bit hazy as he lets a yawn escape his lips. “I got it for you.” He says sleepily, adjusting his body so he was sitting up. “Huh?” Buck asks, looking over to Eddie with the bread bowl in his hands.

“Well.. last time you ate my leftovers. And there was barely anything left.” Eddie explains with a shrug. “Figured I’d get you your own this time.”

“Dude. I could kiss you right now.” Buck says excitedly, impatiently taking a bite of the cold mac and cheese before putting the rest in the microwave.

“You could also chew with your mouth closed. But that’s two things that won’t be happening tonight." Eddie shoots back, and holy fuck was he flirting? That sounded very flirty. He wasn’t even into guys. So no, he wasn’t flirting. He was just snipping back at his roommate. Totally normal. Totally casual. Yup.

tagging @king-buckley bc i am thirsty for more paradise blue!!

#buddie #buddie fic #roommates au #panera is a weirdly large plot point in this fic #i dont know why i picked it #i dont even like panera #it tastes like expensive hospital food

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appropriatelystupid · 2 months

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Below Deck AU, yesssssss

i cannot describe how desperate i am to actually get this one written

basic set up is as follows:

lena, upon gaining access to her trust fund, also officially inherits a ship lionel bought and remodeled into a yacht (basing it on bd down under s2’s ship)

in the interest of having nothing to do with the family business, lena studies environmental sciences for her many degrees and ultimately begins sailing the yacht to various parts of the world for research and running yacht seasons in route to help keep funding her work against climate change

the crew changes season to season but it’s mostly made up of our familiar faces

kara is still a journalist (no powers in this one btw) but she is determined to tell whatever story in the world matters so she’s very much a bit of a nomad and happens to be traveling (not for work) nearby when alex (1st officer) calls because they need a new deckhand

it would break from below deck in that, no one is filming them, but the structure of the ship and season would be the same

#just occurred to me this and food truck involve lena cutting most ties with the luthors lmao guess we know my personal bias #tho shes still in somewhat contact with them in this one. they’re less evil more unhinged wealth in this #and i’m planning a bunch of bullshit mods for the ship to make it not terrible for the environment while she does this #oh and lena always opts to be the second stew even tho she owns the ship and pays the crew. she just doesn’t want to be in charge like that #i have very elaborate notes and plotting to get it naturally to a point of kara and lena sharing the cabin #if it wasn’t in a notebook it’d look like that charlie day always sunny pic #wip title game #happypugstuff #appropriatelyasked #stupidlyanswered

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wawamouse · 16 days

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My sister's thoughts on the Oz community pool AU

Busmalis would be the one doing something in the grass… like he’s there doing something that he’s not supposed to be doing. Something not pool related, like digging a hole in a sand pit. Maybe there's a bank next door.

Rebadow is doing old people swim exercises in a full wetsuit

O’Reily wears a little white visor and white tank top and red shorts (the uniform) and eats customer hotdogs. Like, he gives you a hotdog with a bite already in it and acts like it just looks like that then when the customers complain, McManus comes over and tells O’Reily not to stop eating the customer hotdogs, but O'Reily just gaslights everyone and says he's not, that there's no way he's out here taking bites of people's hot dogs. It was actually them taking bites of their own hotdogs. Why would he eat their food? They just forgot. McManus doesn't investigate even though he says he will if it happens again.

Keller keeps lying to Beecher and pretending to be first aid certified

Sister’s Miguel x Chico fic (as recorded by me) (her first foray into fanfiction “writing”)

SCENARIO: Everyone is leaving the pool early one day because there’s a summer tornado warning/severe thunderstorm warning and it’s very windy and gray.

SISTER’S WARDROBE NOTES:

Miguel has a dark-gray tshirt, dark, baggy blue-gray drawstring zip up hoodie, grayish-green khaki cargo shorts, “those sturdy flipflops with the canvas straps”. He also has his swim instructor duffel bag stuff.

Chico is wearing red swim trunks, old white (not stark white) ribbed tank top (“I WANNA SEE THEM SHOULDERS”), whistle (essential). I showed her a picture of season 5 Chico and she decided he has short hair and also his goatee as in s5 (“because we want him to be slightly unapproachable-looking like a slightly creepy janitor. A respectable 53% creepy/shabby looking. If he doesn’t have his goatee, the scenario doesn't work because he’ll be too chiseled and just be instantly hit on by all the ladies and that’s not the vibe here”)

STORY:

The locker room is dark, cool, and cement, with overhead, yellowish lights. One of the lights is going to be flickering at the end (but it’s because of the storm, not because we didn’t invest in the lights. We can’t blame McManus for not investing in the fixtures). The locker doors are going to be a military green and the benches are those wooden ones that are drilled into the ground

Miguel is at his locker with the door open. He can see Chico enter the locker room. We ain’t setting up a jump scare here. This is 2700 Kelvin lighting. Sort of yellowish, like a little bit of an intimate glow color. 😛

He’s putting his stuff into his bag from his locker, getting ready to go. Maybe there’s a straggler child and he says goodbye. And then he sees Chico enter and he’s like “oh shit” because there’s like UST between them and Miguel doesn’t want to deal with it and he’s been avoiding him all day. It’s just coming to a boil that summer. (The storm is a metaphor for their relationship… the weight of intense emotions…. REPRESSED)

So Miguel starts to put shit away faster and he ends up like dropping his deodorant or whatever. It skitters across the floor, taking him further back into the locker room aisle. By that time, Chico has arrived to where he is.

There’s tension as Miguel goes back to packing his stuff up and ignoring Chico, who can’t take the silent treatment anymore. He demands to know why Miguel won’t talk to him but Miguel won’t give him a straight answer, either. He’s just trying to get out before the storm, dude.

When Miguel tries to shove by and leave, Chico grabs his arm and reels him around. Slam! Miguel’s back hits the locker.😳 Miguel drops his stuff and he’s confused but also a little seduced. WIDE EYES, darting back and forth. He’s sort of excited because he knows where this is going, and he wants it to happen deep down. Like, if Chico wasn’t persistent, Miguel wouldn’t do shit about it, either, so he’s glad Chico’s the one making the moves. He was hoping for it 👀

He sort of slumps down a bit, right, because he got slammed against the locker. And Chico sort of kabedons him with his elbow. Not casual, though. Full on locked in. Faces inches apart. One of Chico’s hands is, like, on Miguel’s waist, half catching him after he sort of slipped down against the locker. They're breathing on each other all turned on but pretending not to be while they have, like, a whispered-growled conversation 😗; “You’ve been avoiding me”; “no I’m not”; Etc.

Chico says some kind of accusatory stuff but at the same time he’s saying some persuasive stuff because he’s trying to get Miguel to respond to him. But as soon as Chico says something too forward like “we have something... I know you feel it, too”, Miguel pushes him aside in wordless denial and scoops up his duffel. He starts to head out and Chico like calls something after him, like something inflammatory or triggering—basically blasting Miguel with a truth bomb. He's like “don’t run from this”.

Miguel sort of looks back and his leg hits a corner of a bench as he’s fast walking out of there. He stumbles. Chico, who’s already racing to keep up, end ups colliding against him. They both go down. Chico grabs Miguel instinctively and he sort of falls sideways and ends up cushioning the fall for Miguel, who startles out of his own disorientation at the sound of a pained groan beside him. Their arms are slightly around each other on the ground and Chico looks over smiling after a moment because this is STUPID. And there’s all this sexual tension and Miguel finally can't take it anymore. There's like a huge thunderclap outside and the lights flicker and he leans over and they KISS….. They start to kiss.....

And then someone walks into the locker room and they scramble apart!! It’s McManus, checking to make sure everyone’s leaving. Chico stands slightly behind Miguel, who’s the one who ends up talking to McManus. He's all straight faced like the responsible swim teacher he is, like “yeah, sure, we’ll make sure to get home safely” or whatever sassy way he wants to say it. Meanwhile, Chico’s just been staring at Miguel the whole time with those lovey dovey eyes like... His eyes are glistening, full of love and adoration. They’re still like that when Miguel looks over, seeing all of Chico’s love for the first time. Letting himself see it. And he’s like “damn, I am going home with this man” because Chico’s eyes are just like that kind of enveloping comfort, you know. He sees the rice being thrown at the wedding, or whatever Catholics do. All those potential firsts. He's going way overboard with it, like in the show when he gets convinced of things. He loses his whole mind. He sees his whole future in Chico’s big beautiful eyes. The lazy one, too. Miguel's like wow....

So, then they go to the place of whoever lives closer. It's Kiss, McManus interrupts, they're alone again. They sort of hold hands but also a little like no homo. Their pinky fingers touch in the locker room and then, if this was a movie, there would be a knowing little smile between them.

SMASH CUT TO… Well, actually, they’d go to Chico’s place and Miguel would be like “damn babygorl, you live like this?”. There’s like bare walls or whatever. It looks like shit. Chico’s like “shut up” because they’re here to do one thing and it starts with F. But they still gotta pick a fight or whatever because that's who they are. Then they start slamming each other into walls, just ripping off clothes. You know how it is. Then they fade to black. Fade up from black, they’re both in bed aggressively smoking so we know what happened 😏🚬 [Aggressive smoking motions] And there’s some sort of afterglow macho banter about how that sucked (even though they both liked it a lot). The main thing is that it was Miguel’s first time with a guy or whatever and he’s still got his pride so he’s acting all like "Psh, I don't care" and he’s like “Next time I’m going to be on top, show you how it's done” and Chico’s all like [aggressive smoking motions pause] but eventually he caves because he’ll do any for Miguel, really. Also Miguel said 'next time', so you know it's so on with them.

Fin~~

#text #oz au #others fic #lol sister's first fic of sorts....#she doesn't have social media so she told me to be her scribe #not pictured: the one woman show she performed in the living room while choreographing the locker room slams #miguel alvarez #chico guerra #like Sister is never going to write fic bc she doesn’t have the patience for creative writing #but like still #me: finally some food 😭😭😭😭#I also shared the Invasion of the body snatchers (inspired) AU with her bc i made her watch the 1975 remake with me when we were in oz s1 #altho I described Torquemada and Querns as ppl she didn’t know yet lol #she thought my Rebadow dialogue sounded just like him :)#she said there wasn't enough romantic tension tho and i was like ya the point was the plot in that one #i like that sister also headcanon's chico living in some kind of empty warehouse #like he just does not give off swanky pad vibes #maybe in s6 but we're in s3 rn

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shockingshinx12-shinx · 3 days

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In the authors notes for your fic "a dog's breakfast" you mentioned that you have a lot of opinions about Clockwork's involvement in TUE. I am curious what your opinions are, cause I've got some of my own, and I wonder how much they align.

I spent several hours typing up a response to this earlier and I hit something and tumblr DELETED IT WHILE I WAS MID-WAY THROUGH!!!!! SO I HAD TO RESTART AGAIN JHGDFGHGDF sorry for the delay o7

BUT BOY HOWDY DO IT, A LOT IN FACT!! I already dragged 2 of my friends to watch the ep. so I could give them the full rundown of what I'm talking about, so thank you for enabling me cause I love talking about this! Buckle in cause I have ADHD and tend to word vomit, so I hope this all makes sense

I'm sure you've seen a million bajillion people say this already (plus your own thoughts, opinions, and observations) so this may all be stuff you know, but the OG ep is filled with several time paradoxes that make absolutely no sense, which can probably be attributed to the writers not really caring about the logistics of a kids show time-travel ep. But if you wanna look at it from an in-universe standpoint,Clockwork is directly responsible for the events of TUE in both Dan and Danny’s timeline

Let’s start with what we know: (Also, sorry for the crunchy screenshots, I work with what I got)

CW sends Box-Lunch back in time to fight Danny, which causes the Nasty burger to be condemned/abandoned for several days

CW sends Skulk-Tech back in time, which causes the heating element to start heating up the vats of Nasty sauce

Danny and Co. beat Skulk-Tech which transports them to CW’s lair and forces them to flee to the future to escape his “wrath”, which then gives Dan a chance to escape to the past to recreate the NB explosion and ensure his continued existence

OK SO! These are the key points!

Dan Mentions during one of his Spiels to Danny that his loved ones died in an explosion at the Nasty burger, which is reinforced by Vlad when Danny goes to him for help. Similar enough events to what we see in the episode.

The Nasty Burger explosion wouldn’t have happened if Clockwork hadn’t sent Box-Lunch and Skulk-tech to the past. Their direct influence on the present-timeline is what set up those dominoes. This means that CW interfered and fucked Dan over intentionally in his timeline and didn’t do anything to change, or fix what he caused.

The heating element wouldn’t have been left on and unattended if Danny didn’t have to fight Box-Lunch, and the sauce wouldn’t have exploded if Skulk-Tech hadn’t crashed and pushed the element towards the vats.

There’s something to be said about leaving dangerous equipment unattended, so even if Skulk-Tech hadn’t crashed into the kitchen, there’s a chance something else in there could’ve caught fire and triggered an explosion, but it would’ve been at a completely different time, and could’ve potentially been caught and stopped by repair crews (potentially). Skulk-Tech’s involvement ensured the explosion happened sooner. You could also argue that Danny’s fights take him all over the city, and you’d be correct. There’s a possibility that, if Box-Lunch hadn’t been sent back and Danny was fighting one of his other present-day rogue’s, they could’ve accidentally gone crashing through the NB as well; but it’s not guaranteed to have the same result as the Box-Lunch fight. All his Rogue’s are vastly different, with different strengths, weaknesses, fighting styles, and reactions. For example, there’s no guarantee that if Johnny 13 and Shadow went flying through the NB, they’d stay long enough for Danny to think of using the sauce as a weapon against them. Not only that, but it's not guaranteed he'd fight more than one ghost that day. From what we see, none of his usual rogue's bug him during that specific day, so there's a chance he doesn't even fight anyone at all.

If it could be done by anyone else, CW wouldn't have gone through the trouble of pulling ghosts from the future. We also know Dan has met CW before and knows what he does, very specifically stating “Clockwork! Meddling again". So clearly he knows what Clockwork's done, at least to some degree.

Not to mention, Clockwork seems like a chaotic neutral character at BEST. Why would he see fit to completely ruin Danny’s life in the first place? Him going out of his way to do such a thing just doesn’t make sense to me, I can’t see him doing that on purpose, but the events ONLY happen due to his interference. Clockwork is initially shown as only intervening and sending Box-Lunch back because the Observant's ask him to, but if that’s the case, what caused the Nasty burger explosion in Dan’s timeline? Sure, Clockwork is mischievous like anyone else, we see it in the way he slams Danny repeatedly into a bell, but he’s not outright malevolent.

Also quick side-note, Valerie outright blames Phantom for causing the explosion but we know for a fact that Danny didn’t want that to happen, he was literally heartbroken. This could be interpreted a couple different ways I suppose; -One being: that Danny was flying around as Phantom post-explosion while trying to find his family in the rubble and the public wrongfully blamed him again. But that can’t be possible because Danny Fenton WAS found at the scene of the explosion. The paper outright says he was the lone survivor, so if Phantom was flying around, no one would've been able to find "Fenton" at the scene. -Or two being: a different future evil version of Phantom caused the explosion in Dan’s timeline just like Dan did in Danny’s timeline, which is just as impossible as the first option, but more in line with the canon we're given. If he did, Dan would’ve known he was going to lose and would've done things differently, accounted for his previous versions mistakes, not to mention he says Danny shouldn’t get the ghostly wail for 10 more years, plus his surprise that Jazz knew about his secret. If Dan really did have to face a jerky version of himself in his timeline before the explosion, he would’ve acquired the wail long ago and seen Jazz's note. Not to mention present-timeline Danny is grossed out by the idea of having his humanity ripped out. I’d apply that same “grossed-out” feeling to Dan, even if he is mega-depressed after moving to Vlad’s. But also, Dan is only created due to Skulk-Tech and Box-Lunches intervention in the past, who only come into creation due to Dan's rampages in the future. This option would also mean there’s an infinite amount of Phantom’s being displaced in time, constantly, but Clockwork only has the one thermos.

That also brings up another issue.

The Observants make it seem like this is a “first”, but if the explosion only happens cause of Clockwork’s interference with ST and BL in the past, which causes Dan’s creation, then in some timeline before Dan’s- Danny had to become evil to enable the right conditions for each of those “new” ghosts to exist. This means Dan was doomed from the start, the cards were stacked against him, and this loop has been going on for an indeterminate/indefinite amount of time. (Idk if that makes sense, I’m really bad at explaining my thoughts in ways people understand so I made a diagram. Hope this makes the point I’m trying to make clear?)

Ok with the ghosts out of the way, what about the answer booklet? Danny wouldn’t have obtained the answers to the CAT if he hadn’t gone flying through Mr. Lancer’s briefcase at the NB.

This next part contradicts my statement that Dan’s timeline is partially a circle that feeds itself, but bear with me. I attack this from different angles (cause technically both these angles may or may not co-exist at the same time cause this whole ep. Is a mess and we already have an incursion that conflicts with other stated facts of canon JHGDHGJFGHFD this also treads a little more into headcanon area, so I guess take it with a grain of salt if you feel I'm reaching)

Danny seemed genuinely surprised the booklet was there, and his eyes went wide at the prospect that he even could study the answers, like it hadn’t even crossed his mind before that moment. I’d like to think that he wouldn’t have even thought about that being an option till after the test, in a comedic “Man, I’m surprised you didn’t just steal the answers” comment from Tucker which would have caused Danny to facepalm so hard.

We’re never actually given the reason why in Dan’s timeline, he and his loved ones were at the Nasty Burger. Clockwork just says “He turns evil? ‘Cause he’s under pressure from some ‘test’?” which isn’t really a confirmation of anything other than he’s “stressed”, and Sam and Tucker just assume that Danny cheating is the cause with no further evidence than that. Sure, Dan cheats to lure everyone to the Nasty Burger, but that’s because he knows it’ll work. I have reason to believe that in his OG timeline, that’s not exactly how events went down, that he was framed.

This little assumption of mine is based on a few context clues we’re given: First; Danny seems genuinely concerned about doing a good job on this test. He’s actually trying to study for it, he’s putting in the effort, even if he says he quits just before Box-Lunch's assault.

Second; Why were Tucker and Sam at a parent teacher conference that was meant to be between the Fenton’s and Mr. Lancer?

Third; We have the line Lancer says to Jazz when she mentions he has no proof Danny stole the cheat sheet, “Fair enough. He has up until the test to return the answers. BUT! If he cheats, I won’t just fail him, I’ll DESTROY his future!” This shows Lancer has already cemented in his mind that Danny has stolen them, and nothing can convince him otherwise. Cause Jazz is right, Lancer has no proof Danny stole the answers. Sure, he overheard Tucker say something to Danny about not cheating, and when he looked in his case they were gone, but that’s not really grounds for anything. The operative word in Tucker’s statement was “thinking”, which should've cued anyone who was eavesdropping in that Danny hadn’t done anything yet. (IK he has the answers at this time in the ep, but that’s besides the point I’m making here) (Also, the specific quote Tucker says that Lancer overhears is: “Yeahh, you’re right. You’re not thinking of cheating on a test that you’re convinced will determine your future.”) Anyway, despite not having proper proof, he’s already hellbent on ruining Danny’s life no matter what the truth might be.

Fourth; No one gives us specific details about what happened in Dan’s timeline, they’re all based on vague details, assumptions, and jumped conclusion.

I wanna say in Dan’s OG timeline he never actually steals the answers. Lancer was literally walking around everywhere with that briefcase, It’s got a giant target painted on it due to him hand-cuffing it to his wrist. Now I’m not gonna say I know the logistics of stealing shit, but from what I’ve seen of irl lockpicking videos, and the fact that while the briefcase has 2 locks, Lancer only needed to use his key to unlock 1 side, it would be stupidly easy to open his briefcase, anyone could’ve done it. It’s just a matter of distracting him long enough to get it open.

If someone else stole the answers Dan probably would’ve still been Lancer’s main suspect, due to his grades, attendance, running out mid-lesson, and all that other jazz (pun intended), as well as the fact that we already know Lancer shows favoritism towards some students, so he wouldn’t suspect them right away, if at all. It makes Dan the perfect scapegoat in that situation, a bad student, woefully unprepared for the exam of a lifetime, trying to ensure he doesn’t fail, that gets into mischief all the time.

It’d explain why he and his family were called to the Nasty Burger, as well as why Sam and Tucker might be there. They could’ve been trying to defend him from the accusations, trying to build Danny’s case, and demand or plead that Lancer not do anything rash.

The explosion still would’ve had to be caused by CW’s intervention of sending ghosts from the future, which I know doesn’t make sense with how Danny gets the CAT answers, but this idea that Dan’s innocent plays with the fact that no one makes it seem like Danny actually cheated in Dan’s OG timeline. This headcanon makes no sense and I’m well aware of that, but for all intents and purposes, I never saw Dan as being guilty of cheating, it's all flimsy here-say. Not to mention him losing all his friends and family for such a thing is an unjustly cruel punishment for everyone involved, and is extremely stupid. (That being said, I'm not saying Danny ISN'T capable of cheating, I'm just stating he wouldn't cheat here specifically)

He was just painted in a bad light, wrongfully blamed for something he didn’t do, and he’s just a kid who went through something awful. Everyone has it out for him in this scenario, and everyone keeps telling him he’s a monster. Valerie spends 10 years of their future supposedly blaming Phantom for the death of his own friends and family, so if that’s all he’s ever told, of course he sees that as being the only way. (Now I'm not saying Dan's innocent of murder and shit, just that he didn't do what was accused of him before and immediately after the NB explosion)

Anyway, my conclusion to the above is a restatement from earlier, and the TLDR is; none of it makes any goddamn sense, and none of it should’ve happened. Clockwork doesn’t seem like an outwardly malignant ghost, so him going and messing with Danny doesn’t make sense, but TUE only occurs because he crafted that series of events. Also the fact that Danny turned into Dan in a countless number of repeating realities/timelines before Clockwork was forced to stop it by the observants. (And also my headcanon I guess that he didn’t ACTUALLY cheat).

I got a bunch more opinions on other stuff tho. Like about the Nasty burger, the logistics of Dan going to the past the way he did, Danny’s ghost half being ripped from his human half and why phantom did what he did afterwards HJGFDGFGD but this post’s already kinda long so I’ll leave it for another day if you wanna hear about it!! I love talking about this sorta thing so feel free to ask away

Hope you enjoyed my little rant!! And I desperately hope it makes sense HGDFGFJHD

WAIT EDIT: ALSO ALSO, IK everyone loves to depict CW as a mentor figure to Danny whose caring, but that is not the vibe I get from him at ALL. As I said, I think he's a chaotic neutral character at best

#DannyPhantom #I hope this doesn't seem like me just speaking out of my ass #After a certain point I stopped proof reading so it slowly spirals from there #Also everytime I typed “NB” for the nasty burger i kept reading it as “nonbinary” so diversity win‚ the food establishment that has a body-#count of 6 and is now a hole in the ground is nonbinary #I actually wrote an entire series of events for Dan's version of the Timeline that leads up to the explosion #It's mostly just plot outlines and some vague details but it solves a lot of the weird paradoxes and shit #I haven't posted it anywhere but I use it as a basis whenever I write for the “learning to fly” series

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sochilll · 4 months

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The PJO show is definitely not BAD, it’s very fun and cool, but tbh I dislike almost every single change they’ve made from the book lol

#disclaimer this is not about the casting I do not care about them de-blonding anyone annabeth I love u #it’s about the plot changes! I don’t like or don’t understand the point of most of them!#sally doesn’t tell him about the gods!#Percy doesn’t get mad at Grover! At least not like this!#he doesn’t get riptide back until they leave for the quest!#also the change of why he gets kicked out wasn’t like worse but I didn’t really get why they did it #and juniper???? in book one???#but the biggest thing is Gabe. I really don’t like the way they made him like wimpy?#he’s literally physically abusive in the book. he steals Percy’s money the second he steps through the door.#he’s dangerous and sally is kind of scared of him in the book. she doesn’t yell at him and demand to go away and threaten his food #idk maybe he’ll get worse later but as of now: does he deserve to get kicked out? absolutely. does he deserve to be killed? not really?#also Clarisse looks too well groomed lmao that’s NOT my war daughter #and she just makes other people bully Percy? no way. she was the one shoving his head in the toilet!!! give her her violence back!!#ALSO! where is annabeth? she’s supposed to be obsessed with him bc she thinks he’s the one to get the quest and he’s been here like two days #and she is nowhere to be found????#anyway not putting the show tag on this it’s just personal rant time #mine

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Thena and Gilgamesh at beach party, you choose the AU

"Princess?"

Gil chuckled into his beer bottle. He looked over his shoulder, although Thena stepped over the log he was sitting on of her own volition anyway. "You takin' my lines, now?"

Thena settled herself on the log in front of his small little beach fire. She looked behind them, at the main - huge and roaring - bonfire most of the party was seated around. "Not a marshmallow person?"

He snorted, setting down his beer to give her ladyship his undivided attention. "Do I look like a marshmallow guy?"

"Hm," she smirked at him and his little challenge, resting her chin in her palm, "you are surprisingly soft on the inside."

"Whoa, whoa, whoa, sweetheart," Gil balked at the suggestion that he was soft. He gave her his meanest look, "I give you my sweater one time, which I want back, by the way!"

Thena raised her brows at him and then looked down at that exact hoodie she was currently wearing over her sweater dress.

"Doesn't make me soft," he scoffed freely. He gave her a curious look, the fire in front of them offering a soft glow while the larger fire behind them illuminated the back of him. "So, what are you doing here anyway?"

Thena tugged her skirt over her knees, "well, Sersi wanted to come and see Dane."

"Oh," Gil gave her that stupid smug smile, "that so?"

"It is," she huffed, holding her chin high. "I let her loose into the gaggle of people over there, just so long as she doesn't reek of alcohol when I take her home."

Gil nodded, sitting up a little straighter. "And you decided to keep me company?--I'm honoured."

"Okay," Thena scoffed, pulling the hoodie around her tighter. "Get over yourself, please, for the sake of your own dignity. I don't want to be over there any more than you do."

"No, really?" Gil gasped loudly, leaning into her personal space. "Her Highness doesn't like a bunch of drunk idiots trying to convince her go skinny dipping?"

"Don't forget that they stink of cheap beer," she pointed out, even indulging in a laugh that drifted up into the air like the tiny fire's smoke. She looked at him, "what about you?"

"What about me?" Gil repeated, still not having picked up his beer since she sat down.

Thena peeked behind them again, "even if they're not your favourite people in the world, there is at least free food and beer over there."

Gil leaned back only slightly, looking up at the stars. "I mean, I mostly came because I like the beach at night anyway. I looked at what they had over there but there's nothing really good. Me and my six pack are just fine over here."

Thena tilted her head at him, her hair slipping over her shoulder. "You're much more popular than you think, given your willingness to deny the public your mysterious charms."

Gil grinned at her, "you think I'm charming?"

She froze, blinking at him, just for a second. Then she looked back at the fire, clearing her throat, "it is a figure of speech, actually. I can explain it to you, if you like."

Gil didn't mind her prickly response. If anything, he seemed excited by it. "Will you wear a sexy teacher outfit?"

"Are alcohol and sex truly the only interests you have room for in that head of yours?"

"As a matter of fact, no," he countered proudly, leaning into her space again. He even slid over closer again, this time meeting her hip with his. "I have a more recent interest I'm pursuing."

Thena shivered, although it was a funny contrast of feelings. She wasn't any colder--maybe half of her felt chilly, in comparison with the half Gil was leaning against now.

"What about you, Thena?" he asked in that softer voice he could have sometimes. "Any...interests?"

She wasn't entirely sure what he was asking, but it didn't seem like something she wanted to answer entirely honestly. She cleared her throat again. "If I do have interests, what exactly makes them your business?"

"I guess nothing," he shrugged, and the movement that left a gap between their shoulders let in the cold again. "Just asking."

Thena looked at the fire again, rendered quiet by the whirlwind of conversation, in addition to its rather abrupt end.

"Just that if you were interested in any-" Gil shimmied his shoulders, jostling her faintly, "thing...then you should follow through."

She fidgeted, left with the distinct impression that she both didn't know what he meant and knew exactly what he meant. She shifted on the log, his hoodie tucked under her posterior. "You think so?"

Gil looked at her, and despite his lazy kind of facial expression, his eyes were warm and intense, like they always were. He tucked some hair out of her view and behind her ear. "Yeah, I do. You're too kick-ass not to pursue anything you want, Thena."

She blushed. Her eyes drifted back down to the fire, unable to bear the weight of his undivided attention. She toyed with the strings of the hood. "Can I...hold onto this?--just for tonight!"

Gil chuckled, finally picking up his beer again, although it was further away than even he had thought it would be. He groaned as he stretched for it, "tell you what, Princess. You keep it for as long as you need. And when you have anything you wanna tell me - or ask me - then you can bring it back."

"Well," she squirmed, but Gil stood and dusted his butt off (from which she averted her eyes).

"Not that I'm not enjoying this," Gil chuckled, "but I think Sersi might need to be rescued."

"Oh?" Thena stood as well, looking over at where Sersi was being her ever popular self. "I thought she would have found Dane by now."

"Dane's not here, Thena."

"What?" she turned, but Gil had that look on his face that told her that he had known that this whole time.

"He's on house arrest since he was late getting home from that party last weekend," he smirked, tossing his now empty beer to the sand at their feet. Of course he would say 'house arrest' instead of calling it being grounded. "And he told me that he told Sersi that already."

"Wh-" Thena bit her tongue. It had been she who had suggested to Sersi that perhaps Dane would be at this little gathering. And now both Sersi and Gil had let her walk right into an ensnarement. "You-!"

"I'm flattered you wanted to come see me though," he grinned right in her face, showing off his teeth as the v-neck of his t-shirt billowed in the wind.

"That is not-!" Thena smacked him on the chest (which was unpleasantly hard). "I came to return your sweater! Although, since you said I could keep it, then I suppose I'll be off!"

Thena wasted no time in stepping over the log and back towards the crowd. If she looked back, Gilgamesh would just be wearing that stupid smug smirk of his. He thought he looked so good doing that. "Sersi!"

"Thena!" her younger sister jumped, startled by her war cry. She stood, unminding of the boys on either side of her.

"Come on," Thena grumbled, grabbing her by the hand and not even pausing in her step for Sersi to arrange her willow legs under her. She wanted to get out of here as fast as possible. "We're going home."

"But," Sersi sputtered, barely able to toss away the beer she wasn't allowed to have. "You still have-"

"I know I still have it, let's go!"

#Thenamesh 10 Things AU #I hope you like it anon!#we're starting to deviate from the plot of the movie at this point #and I'm fine with that #Gil goes to any and all of these stupid parties now #maybe at one time it was for the free booze and food and a fun night out #but now it's obviously in hopes a certain someone will be there #he absolutely posts whenever he goes to one so #Sersi sees that Gil is at the beach party #and Dane DMs her that he can't go :(#then lo and behold Thena pokes her head into Sersi's room and says hey I heard there's a beach thing do you want to go?...find Dane?#Sersi looks at the message from Dane and then up at Thena #who is already wearing Gil's hoodie #and goes yeah let's go! :D #Gil sits down again with the rest of his decent beer #he looks like the cool guy sitting over by himself #in reality he's basically going 'she loves me she loves me not' in his head #these idiots

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