#points at the holocaust

[daughter-of-sapph0]

who had "jkr goes full nazi" on their 2024 bingo cards?

#dostxt #I feel like trans people and Jewish people have been saying she's a disgusting vile piece of shit for years #and now she's straight up posting holocaust denial shit on twitter #if you still buy her stuff at this point then I genuinely hope you kill yourself #I'm not even joking

[elder-millennial-of-zion]

Tell me if I’m reaching here guys, but I think the Holocaust could serve as an analogy for the persecution of Jews.

#re: the rule that you can only mention the holocaust as an analogy for any other group except Jews #the holocaust targeted Jews #that was the whole point #Jews are not mythical creatures that are metaphors for actual humans #holocaust denial #holocaust inversion #antisemitism #jumblr

[the-bitch-in-the-tower]

Guys.... everyone...peeps...

We bare witness. We bare witness. With tears in our eyes. With breaking hearts. With anger. With justice burning in our mouths.

We bear witness.

We bear witness.

We bear witness.

We bear witness.

#palestine #free palestine #gaza #free gaza #israel #gaza strip #ethnic cleansing #palestinian genocide #us politics #motaz azaiza #bisan #press #colonial violence #end israeli apartheid #at what point do we start calling this the Holocaust of the Muslim?

[moonshinemagpie]

Some of my past posts on the books assigned in school to teach (or "teach") the Holocaust are being reblogged as International Holocaust Remembrance Day approaches.

It's always interesting to me to see people say, "I read the good stuff— I was assigned Elie Wiesel's Night."

People are adding this in the tags of my posts. People say this to me in person, compulsively. I am not qualified to explain this but there is something pathological behind it.

Elie Wiesel wrote a 900-page memoir in Yiddish about his time in concentration camps. It was called און די וועלט האט געשוויגן; Un di velt hot geshvign (And the World Remained Silent).

He then abridged it, translated it, watered it down, made it conform to the storytelling constructions of the West. Even the accusation implicit in the title was taken out; it was reconstructed to make non-Jewish readers comfortable, so that the world might be receptive to some curated, diluted sliver of Jewish trauma.

That is the book that became Night.

What do you know about Yiddish storytelling? What Yiddish literature have you read? How tolerant would you be to a storytelling culture that ignores the literary structures you have been taught are universal? Why aren't any of the most well-known Holocaust narratives translated from Yiddish or Ladino? Why have you never wondered why until now?

When it comes to the Holocaust, to what was lost, you don't know what you don't know. Don't ever think you do.

#holocaust remembrance day #elie wiesel #holocaust #antisemitism #negative #people love dead jews #dara horn #read this book if you want a starting point

[is-the-owl-video-cute]

It’s funny how some of these people show their whole ass with how bad they are at consuming media critically. “Oh you criticized Bad Thing in these shows? I bet you don’t like any dark media at all!” Anon I promise we can handle dark media. Nazi/Race/Stereotype jokes are not dark media they’re just gauche trash used by people lacking the ability to be actually funny or insightful.

the funny thing is I don’t even hate people who watch Hetalia in current year as long as they’re normal. My animosity is primarily due to the real world antisemitic behavior in the fanbase.

#Who here remembers the aph cosplayers making Holocaust jokes and pointing (fake) guns at synagogues #because I remember it

[yellowocaballero]

I love how your Bruce is traditional but it is also like a mix of different types of traditional. Like he comes across as both "Rich white old money type" traditional AND "member of a marginalized minority group who take great pride in their identity to cope with years of ostracization and going "the world wanted me dead for my culture and religion so i might as well die loud and proud instead of conforming to their unachievable ideals" " traditional

Thank you for this ask, I really love it! I have a shitton to say on this topic, including a lot of worldbuilding decisions on Gotham cultures, immigrant spaces, segregation, how it ended up like 1920s-1930s NYC/Chicago mixed with my own city, Jason "Foil" Todd's Inferiority Complex, but that would make this depressingly long. Long time readers would know that I have, like, really complex and discrete religion headcanons for everybody I write. It's important.

Any decent Batman Story (TM) is about Gotham. It has to be a huge presence. It's like writing Dick Tracy without Chicago, or Cheers without Boston. When he's written well, Batman is a reflection of Gotham, and they metaphorically represent each other.

Most Batman writers get this, so there's always a lot of historical worldbuilding and everything. But I'm a community health person, and I grew up in the inner area of my own very large city, and creating a Gotham that feels real and rich is more complicated than the Court of Owls stuff. For me, cities are the intersection of culture, community, history, oppression/SES/war etc, and the modern day to day lives of people. When I want to make a rich city that was relevant and important to the story, I wanted to focus on immigrants and cultural minorities. You know - the people who create the cities lol. I decided on a history that involved the idea that Jewish families were the oldest in Gotham, and that they were one of the people to help create it and influence its culture.

I read a Daniel Handler quote just now that said "there is something naturally Jewish about unending misery". What is more Batman, Bruce, and Gotham than that, lol. The Jewish diaspora experience - the traditional history just as you outlined it in your ask - is baked into Gotham, it's the foundation. Gotham is a city of unending misery, but it's a city that stands tall. It takes a thousand hits and always gets back up again. People within it experience unending poverty and suffering, but they stand together. Just fucking refuse to die, as a whole. What's more Jewish than that! What is more Batman than that! Gotham should always be allegorical for Batman and Bruce, and through Gotham existing in that traditional Jewish experience, I think that's where you got the impression of Bruce as very traditional too.

Tim and the Drakes are the modern reflection of this. I was extremely explicit that Tim is alone in the world because of the Holocaust. I talk a lot in the story about how war and violence destroy children's lives, and that stretches back to the 1940s. About how war and violence creates violent children, which is what Tim became. His acting out was from the trauma of seeing his family slaughtered in front of him, and like a lot of people he used his religion to justify it.

There's a reason why the very first moment when Tim and Bruce actually connect as a family is when they find kinship and understanding through their shared backgrounds and values. They both saw their families slaughtered, they're both alone in the world - but they found each other, and they'll keep living.

OK BELIEVE IT OR NOT THAT'S THE SHORT VERSION. Seriously, though, I'm not. Uh. Actually fucking Jewish. This is like the fourth time I've talked out of my ass about this. I'm actually really interested in reading about the actual Jewish themes in Batman, because from what little I know they HAVE to be there. Any smart people out there who know about it, or who can link something written about it?

#tw holocaust #my asks #my writing #fwiw I think of Bruce as an atheist and Tim as pretty religious #I always write Bruce as really alienated from his Jewish heritage/culture #and his relationship with Tim (or jason in rr) reconnecting him with that #in nw that generational trauma is also why tim's parents weren't great parents. #heartbreaking! 25 years ago your mom was a survivor! #sucks. #i think i accidentally started thinking of tim as religious #because of that one time i wrote him as having come back from the dead after killing himself #and like anybody would get into god after that. and it stuck a bit for me #new story covid puppy Tim makes like an extremely smug point to call judaism dumb #kid has stuff going on. #hm I think I may have very persistent themes of returning to religion and religious heritage as a method of healing #not gonna psychoanalyze that! bye! #i feel like a fucking fanfic writer conservative for all i talk about masculinity and jesus

[hazel2468]

It amazes me how I will talk about some of my experiences with antisemitism and people will then go on to talk about how sad it is that people hate other people “of other religions”.

When the experience I just shared was someone in elementary school pointing to my mom’s hair and then to mine and saying “I knew you were a Jew- your mom has Jew hair.”

Or how someone once accused me of having a nose job done in high school so I wouldn’t have a “kike nose”.

Or that time someone found out I was Jewish and went “Oh, so you’re not like, really white- you’re faking it.”

Or the countless times that people have mocked my non-white traits (dark body hair, wiry hair, brown eyes, and yes even my body size and the way I am proportioned have been included) as “Kike markers” or “Jew-y looking”.

Do some people hate Jews because we practice Judaism? Absolutely. Is MOST antisemitism based on the idea of Jews as a separate, non-white race that the anti-theist part covers for? YES.

When I am talking about my experienced with antisemitism, I am NEVER talking about someone hating on me for practicing Judaism- because I have never, in my life, experienced that without it being fundamentally tied to a hatred of me as a JEW.

#antisemitism #antisemitism is racism #at this point #given my experiences from all side of the political spectrum #i am firmly convinced that even antisemitism that seems to be directed #at the practice of judaism #is fucking racialized #the anti-theist shit is usually just a fucking cover for it #because when people like that start going in on Jews for what we believe #they ALSO will #without fucking fail #mock our cultural and ethnic practices #and from there it's kind of a 50/50 chance #if I'm going to get holocaust denial or uwu but Israel dual loyalty shit

[fat-fuck-hairy-belly]

Hey, remember how a lot of people criticized X-Man's Magneto because the idea of a Jew, and actual holocaust survivor, turning around and trying to do the same thing to others is stupid and unrealistic. So yeah, about that...

#palestine #israel #free gaza #free palestine #to be fair I don't think there are actual holocaust survivors in the Israeli government at this point #just people using what thei ancestors whent through as a shield to hide behind

[samuraisharkie]

that virtualtoybox person literally told me they aren’t reading what I said and then tried to talk to me w about as much in their tags lol. i never understand people that go ‘I’m not reading all of that but you should read what I have to say” bc like. imagine how infuriated ur gonna get when that response is leveled right back at you? and judging by their tags they didn’t read past my very first line. bc they started comparing animals and animal rights to eugenics which is EXACTLY what I was saying is extremely dangerous to do. That’s exactly how people start calling things that happen to animals a ‘Holocaust’ and I’m positive such a statement is made in that book they told me to read. I’m disabled too. I know what I’m talking fucking about too. In the animal section, I for SURE know more than you do! Because if you knew and truly cared about animals and their welfare, you wouldn’t be talking like PETA. Here’s a trick to other disability activists: learn about animal welfare by volunteering on farms and educating yourself on breeders and the industry rather than getting involved in PETA! And another critical trick: NEVER compare animals to people! That’s exactly what the freaks that think any living thing with a deformity that should die are doing. These people would clutch their pearls the moment they hear farms cull undesirable animals bc they can’t afford to keep every single one and have to streamline their breeding and raising to what will help keep the farm running. That doesn’t mean these farmers want to do the same to people, because the animal is NOT a person and doesn’t live like one. Our lives are not even remotely comparable! People like OP are the people that keep a wild bird with an amputated wing alive bc in their mind it would be insinuating all amputees should die if the bird is put down, and next thing the bird is on the Dodo as inspiration porn. Duex Face is an exception to two headed animals, not the rule. Don’t tell me to do my research when you’re spouting talking points from people that have caused more problems for animals as a whole second only to the commercialization of animal industry. Maybe you need some research (field research) instead! They’re going to block me and I’m assuming that’s why I can’t rb the post anymore even if I wanted to (like I said I didn’t want to start a fight so like. I’m not going to be yelling and acting like an asshole. I swore a bit in the tags initially bc I feel very strongly about how animal rights activists have fucked up disability activism by acting like there’s equivalency in our existences, but that’s not targeted. Most was going to respond telling them that if they feel this strongly they need to be reading more about the animal industry rather than relying on people that are in no way experts on animals talking as an authority on them, and using that to tie with their human rights activism as if animals rights and humans rights are even remotely the same in any way. Whatever though at least the tags are there if anyone who cares enough actually reads them and thinks about them. Will most likely just attract militant vegans and ARAs like the op but whatever)

#ableism tw #why are people caring more about animal rights than human rights. acting like an animal has the same existence a human does #why aren’t we instead pointing and making books about the HUMAN eugenics happening right in front of our eyes. #why do we have to talk through fantasized anthropromorphized animals #why do you people have to imagine an animal feels like you do in order for people to care. #to an extent I’m sure there is a level to which you can say ‘yeah this person is ableist’ judging by how they talk about outside subjects #and I agree that the people who want Deux Face put down are ignorant and a few likely are ableist #but treating it like there is ZERO NUANCE and that every person who holds concern for whether the animal is suffering or not is ableist #is ignorant and harmful #this situation is way way more than what op made it out to be and you can already see in the replies how ARAs have latched onto it #to get on their soapbox and declare that anyone that treats animals as anything less than human are ableist eugenists #(while simultaneously disrespecting people that are actually living through those situations aka comparing animal culling to a Holocaust.) #it doesn’t matter if you’re part of the demographic that’s being harmed and you have no problem with it you don’t speak for all of us #and despite being an activist you CAN be misinformed and fueled by bias! #if animals are fur babies with human emotions to you than of course you will prefer the ‘beast of burden’ argument #I’ll check that book out honestly. would be good to know how to refute what OP built their beliefs off of

[sleevebuscemii]

whats so disheartening about palestine, any crisis in the middle east/the global south, is that there is no investment to care. at the hozier show i went to on friday he called on us to urge representatives for a ceasefire, citing the us involvement in ending ireland’s occupation. the UN director who resigned sees this as a failure of the UN to do their job. the world is calling on world powers to intervene. but none of that means anything when the united states the united nations any world power has no investment in saving the lives of people in sudan or the congo or yemen or afghanistan or pakistan or libya or syria and i can go on. white supremacy dictates what lives are worth living and worth SAVING even at a global scale. colonization dictates what people what countries what ethnicities will live in this world and what people/countries/ethnicities are meant to die in it. the global narrative allows for it to be wrong for the irish to suffer for ukraine to suffer for jewish people to suffer but something about palestinian children dying or sudanese families getting torn apart or families in the congo being eradicated by disease seems inevitable. its tragic and its horrible but it doesn’t ever feel wrong enough to put a real end to. its only enough to provide aid or support or humanitarian relief but a real collective response to ensure these atrocities stop completely and never repeat is never on the table is never an option is never the aim. you’re only worth saving if you’re at best an asset or at the very least not something we’ve invested in the destruction of.

this is in no way meant to be a hopeless post at all. but people need to start thinking about this differently. they need to understand the bigger picture and what colonialism does on a larger scale. you have to think about every common denominator of who is suffering and who is causing the suffering and who is in a position to do something about it. keep calling your representatives. keep protesting. keep boycotting. keep speaking out. but do not treat this as an isolated incident do Not treat this like a new occurrence in history. think about how we got here think about what it will take for real change think about Who will usher in real change.

#this isn’t anything succinct im just tired of people being disappointed in world powers for not changing the world. #like bestie why would they want to change a world they have power in!?? #anyway. #from the river to the sea #also if you call me anti semetic for saying people have more sympathy for jewish people in the holocaust #than they ever will have for brown and black people in the global south you are missing my point and you are stupid actually #palestine #m

[givemearmstopraywith]

i like what norman finkelstein has to say about the holocaust industry and i think he makes salient, interesting arguments about zionism but please engage with pro-palestine, anti-zionist jews other than finkelstein, who has praised the holocaust denier david irving as a good historian

#i have no real issue with finkelstein but him calling irving a good historian has left such a bad taste in my mouth #i have tried to see if those quotes are out of context and as far as i and see they are not. major L #the criticism of what he said about holocaust denial being taught in schools is absolutely a fair point but i think he also underestimates #how stupid the average undergraduate is skdfgjskhdfg #p #also to clarify: im saying this because if you can sway on one genocide denier then you will sway elsewhere

[asthevermincrawls]

the thing is. you can't let anger overtake your heart. it will turn you bitter and helpless, chewing your own tongue till it bleeds while nothing gets done. you have to let your love for the indigenous peoples of turtle island, of aotearoa, of australia, of palestine, to guide you to action, to ignite your heart in hope. justice is possible. many hands make the burden light

#these past few days have been a definite turning point for me #i was never particularly patriotic. i was critical of ''canada'' before #but now i have nothing but disgust and anger towards the nation calling itself ''canada'' #i watched a woman cry for her stolen children. her rage and grief were so visceral as she sang to us (the colonizers! the settlers!) #and begged us to fight for her #and i watched the major news outlets' gross miscoverage of the event. focusing on one mention of hamas' hostages instead the numbers #of palestinians dead. the airstrikes on the hospitals. the descendants of holocaust survivors calling it a genocide #(the news called them ''''self identified''' jews. what a slap in the face to someone who lost their father in the holocaust!) #I have to try and turn that disgust and anger for ''canada'' into love and hope for the first peoples of turtle island #and all colonized people #i have to try and fight for them #a.txt

[rahabs]

It's just amazing to me that all the people who were having complete meltdowns in February over a video game are now on this website spitting some of the most vile, heinous, antisemitic rhetoric, is all.

#It's just. You know. What it is. #Masks off and all that #From 'this video game kills Jews' to 'yeah actually... we SHOULD annihilate them all! Brilliant' #Like it really didn't take long at all for those masks to come off. #It's just that I think you can make your point without all the 'actually we should wipe Israel+ Israelites + Jews off the face of the earth #Not even touching the people who have boiled this conflict down to 'Israel and Jews bad because white and Palestine good because brown' #Because people on Tumblr have been saying for years that the Holocaust doesn't count because 'it happened to white people/Jews are white' #Which is an entirely different can of ignorance (and I've already reblogged posts on the matter of Jewish ethnicity) #And to the people who I know will have knee-jerk responses to this: #Firstly temper yourself and use your brain please #Secondly I'm not saying all the Pro-Palestine people say this. #Just that there is a very large amount of real and vile antisemitism #And a lot of it is being propagated by the same people who back in February #Harassed people under the guise of 'this game is antisemitic' (even when actual Jews disagreed) #And who then immediately jumped on the 'Israel bad and also Jews bad and also we should get rid of them forever' train. #Like hopefully even the Pro-Palestine people can understand why that's Wrong. Hopefully. #Also do not even with the 'but that's not happening Cheyenne' because yes it is even if you don't want to face the realities of antisemitis #And the forms it takes. How deeply hated Jews still are by society--and not just Western society. #And also you know what while I dig myself a hole tonight: #Jewish people have existed in Israel longer than Christians and Muslims have existed PERIOD #And I am so over the horrible nonsensical comparisons North Americans try to make to the colonisation of the Americas by Europeans. #It is NOT the same thing and I say this as a First Nations woman with two history degrees; a classics degree; and a JD. #You sound ignorant. You are ignorant. Stop it.

[torahtot]

esp with less and less people commemorating Yom HaShoa, i think it's important to try to comprehend what today actually is like for Jews.

for us, every day is Yom HaShoa. we don't get to pick one day to feel the full horror of it. we don't get to relegate it to something that's only brought up when a convenient metaphor is needed. for Jews there is no "when-do-i-teach-my-children." there is no discovering nazis at age 15, no first Holocaust documentary, no moment of disbelief. i can't remember being told about it; it's always been a fact of life. that we were being literally wiped out en masse not so long ago is a fact of life. your great-grandparents were gassed. we live where we do because your grandparents were escaping murder. there were millions more of us.

and now there are celebrities with more instagram followers than Jews in the world. that massive sense of loss is always there, in nearly every aspect of Jewish life. so much of who we are is centered around mourning. something to think about and try to internalize today and in general to understand to be a good Jewish ally.

#idk if this makes sense idk what my point exactly is just #thinking abt how some ppl literally dont know nazis exist until they're teens. and holocaust deniers #and my dad forcing me and my siblings to watch graphic terrifying documentaries bc he didnt know how else to make us understand #thinking abt multiple survivors being killed in ukraine #and ppl treating israeli *citizens* the way they say not to treat Russians ESPECIALLY when u consider 50% of the worlds Jews live in israel #like u cannot talk abt boycotts and shit without acknowledging. whatever u are doing that affects civilians is affecting #*half of the jews in the world* #ppl saying never again while shit is constantly happening to us and nobody says anything #all rings pretty hollow especially today #saw a good thing abt that on Instagram might rb with it #holocaust #yom hashoah #jew blogging #nachi speaks

[to-be-frank-i-dont-care]

to the reviewer on Amazon who gave The Book Thief a 1-star review and said they threw it in the fire for kindling after just a few pages because it was so awful

#i am so mad rn #so so mad #another person said they stopped reading bc it was too bleak #and bc books these days are always depressing #excuse you. excuse you. it is about. NAZI GERMANY. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT-- #ANYWAY THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE BOOK IS THAT EVEN IN THE DARKEST OF TIMES THERE IS STILL LIFE AND HOPE AND KINDNESS #SO SHUT UP #IF YOU DIDNT EVEN FINISH THE BOOK DONT LEAVE A ONE STAR REVIEW #YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO #NO RIGHT AT ALL #oh. and get this. #another person said that markus zusack should have gone with 'less is more' instead of talking about all the death #it is mentalities like that that make people think the holocaust never happened #bc if you cut down on the atrocities of ww2 + the holocaust + make them 'less' so the reader doesn't have to endure it as this person wante #then you are essentially dumbing down history and making it so that we will be doomed to repeat it #people are so so stupid and i am absolutely spitting nails FURIOUS #the book thief #book thief #markus zusak

[djcranberry]

Mfs really out here using holocaust denial talking points to “debunk” current events in Palestine

#uMMMMM #if palestines are being killed???? #why did population go up over time????? #mf that is LITERALLY a point people use to argue that the holocaust was fake #palestine #it’s also a talking point arguing #that the genocide of Native Americans was fake #y’all out here using denialist rhetoric and think you’re a good guy???