#por vs ger

[spanishskulduggery]

When do you use the subjunctive after cuando? I have two sentences, "Cuando llegue al aeropuerto, debe quitar el equipaje de mano" (indicative) and "Cuando llegue al aeropuerto en España, recoga su maleta facturada y pase por la aduana." (subjunctive) -- which would be correct?

If I had to choose, the first one is correct, but not because of indicative vs. subjunctive; it's because your second sentence has a spelling error

Note: That second sentence is using commands, not subjunctive however

If the second one was spelled correctly, I would say both are potentially viable

I'll break it down piece by piece below, let me know if you need more clarification on something

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First: It would often be more common to say cuando llega al aeropuerto for usted

You can say cuando llegue which is subjunctive, though it reads as a little more like you don't know when they're coming

They are both correct, it's the difference between "when you arrive" vs. "whenever you arrive"

Using cuando with subjunctive often comes across as "whenever" or being unsure when exactly someone is coming, or if they're coming at all

It's generally more common to use cuando with indicative especially for discussing procedures, but subjunctive is fine here. Just be aware that cuando + subjunctive kind of reads like "whenever" or "in the event that you come" - almost as if you haven't nailed down your plans yet, while indicative is like "you're coming, here's what to do"

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A common example I give people is cuando tienes tiempo vs. cuando tengas tiempo. Both are viable and correct

cuando tienes tiempo seems more average "when you have time"

And cuando tengas tiempo "whenever you have time" feels like "hey no rush" ...like it's more polite or almost apologetic

The indicative tienes is more common, but tengas makes sense and can be used especially if someone is really busy and you don't have any set plan or appointment

Whenever they could be the same, subjunctive comes across as more wishy washy or ambiguous in the translation and often uses -ever in it... like lo que sea "whatever" [lit. "whatever it is/might be"], como quieras "as you wish" [lit. "however you would like it"], or it's very ambiguous like quien lea esto... "whoever reads this..."

English subjunctive like this often uses -ever, or "should/might" to add that different quality

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Second: That second sentence is actually imperative mood - a command

In general Spanish there are three moods:

Indicative - present, preterite, imperfect, future, conditional

Subjunctive - present subjunctive, imperfect subjunctive, [sometimes future subjunctive depending on what era you're in; it's obsolete now mostly]

Imperative - affirmative commands, negative commands

For most everyone's purposes, there's subjunctive, there's commands, and indicative is everything else.

Your first clause cuando llegue is subjunctive - cuando llega would be indicative

But that second clause is a command - "grab your checked luggage and go through customs"

Commands look and conjugate very similarly to subjunctive, but they're different in terms of use

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Third: That second sentence I would mark as incorrect not because they're using a command but because there's a spelling mistake

Subjunctive and commands often take their conjugations from present tense yo forms

recoger turns to recojo because they're trying to keep that aspirated G sound that sounds like English H. Essentially they want it to sound like "ho" not "go", so they use recojo with the J for present yo

It happens with exigir "to demand", proteger "to protect" etc. Basically any -ger or -gir they try to keep that English H sound

In subjunctive, you take that present tense yo form and you change the general ending

A basic example: hablar is -ar so it becomes hable, comer and vivir are -er and -ir so they switch to coma and viva

Indicative uses normal rules; subjunctive (and commands) often invert the rules... hablo, hablas, habla, hablan, hablamos present tense turns to hable, hables, hable, hablen, hablemos in subjunctive

In this case it would be recoja (usted) to keep the H sound not a "ga" sound

As a command, recoger is - recoge (tú), recoja (usted), recojan (plural), recojamos (nosotros)

pasar is a regular verb with no weirdness so as a command it's pasa, pase, pasen, pasemos with no unexpected conjugations

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As far as which is a better sentence...

If the second sentence were spelled correctly, they're both viable

"when you get to the airport, you should remove carry-on luggage" vs. "when you get to the airport, pick up your checked luggage and go through customs"

In your examples one is subjunctive + indicative, one is a subjunctive + command

deber as "must/should" is often used as polite requests, almost like a command but a suggestion or mentioning what someone "ought" to do rather than telling them to do it

There are cases where sometimes a direct command is considered too forceful, and so there are different ways to do polite commands that use different moods rather than commands

...Essentially in this case, they're using impersonal "one must", or "you ought to" rather than saying "remove your carry-on" directly

#asks #learning spanish #spanish #langblr #la gramatica #language #languages #subjuntivo

[daikenkki]

Australian Open 2024 - Men's Singles Draw:

Novak Djokovic (1) (SRB) vs Dino Prizmic (Q) (CRO)

Alexei Popyrin (AUS) vs Marc Polmans (WC) (AUS)

Yannick Hanfmann (GER) vs Gael Monfils (FRA)

Andy Murray (GBR) vs Tomas Martin Etcheverry (30) (ARG)

Adrian Mannarino (FRA) vs Stan Wawrinka (SUI)

Alexander Shevchenko vs Jaume Munar (ESP)

Christopher O'Connell (AUS) vs Cristian Garin (CHI)

Roberto Bautista Agut (ESP) vs Ben Shelton (16) (USA)

Taylor Fritz (12) (USA) vs Facundo Diaz Acosta (ARG)

Roberto Carballes Baena (ESP) vs Borna Gojo (CRO)

Fabian Marozsan (HUN) vs Marin Cilic (PR) (CRO)

Dane Sweeny (Q) (AUS) vs Francisco Cerundolo (22) (ARG)

Lorenzo Musetti (25) (ITA) vs Benjamin Bonzi (FRA)

James Duckworth (WC) (AUS) vs Luca Van Assche (FRA)

Aleksandar Vukic (AUS) vs Jordan Thompson (AUS)

Matteo Berrettini (ITA) vs Stefanos Tsitsipas (7) (GRE)

Jannik Sinner (4) (ITA) vs Botic Van de Zandschulp (NED)

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Daniel Elahi Galan (COL) vs Jason Kubler (WC) (AUS)

J.J. Wolf (USA) vs Sebastian Baez (26) (ARG)

Frances Tiafoe (17) (USA) vs Borna Coric (CRO)

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Daniel Altmaier (GER) vs Karen Khachanov (15)

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Matteo Arnaldi (ITA) vs Adam Walton (WC) (AUS)

Pavel Kotov vs Arthur Rinderknech (FRA)

Flavio Cobolli (Q) (ITA) vs Nicolas Jarry (18) (CHI)

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Quentin Halys (FRA) vs Lloyd Harris (Q) (RSA)

Christopher Eubanks (USA) vs Taro Daniel (JPN)

Thiago Seyboth Wild (BRA) vs Andrey Rublev (5)

Holger Rune (8) (DEN) vs Yoshihito Nishioka (JPN)

Laslo Djere (SRB) vs Arthur Cazaux (WC) (FRA)

Arthur Fils (FRA) vs Jiri Vesely (PR) (CZE)

Roman Safiullin vs Tallon Griekspoor (28) (NED)

Ugo Humbert (21) (FRA) vs David Goffin (Q) (BEL)

Zhizhen Zhang (CHN) vs Federico Coria (ARG)

Denis Shapovalov (PR) (CAN) vs Jakub Mensik (Q) (CZE)

Omar Jasika (Q) (AUS) vs Hubert Hurkacz (9) (POL)

Grigor Dimitrov (13) (BUL) vs Marton Fucsovics (HUN)

Sebastian Ofner (AUT) vs Thanasi Kokkinakis (AUS)

Maximilian Marterer (GER) vs Nuno Borges (POR)

Constant Lestienne (FRA) vs Alejandro Davidovich Fokina (23) (ESP)

Felix Auger-Aliassime (27) (CAN) vs Dominic Thiem (AUT)

Alexandre Muller (FRA) vs Hugo Grenier (Q) (FRA)

Patrick Kypson (WC) (USA) vs Emil Ruusuvuori (FIN)

Terence Atmane (Q) (FRA) vs Daniil Medvedev (3)

Alexander Zverev (6) (GER) vs Dominik Koepfer (GER)

Soonwoo Kwon (PR) (KOR) vs Lukas Klein (Q) (SVK)

James McCabe (WC) (AUS) vs Alex Michelsen (USA)

Bernabe Zapata Miralles (ESP) vs Jiri Lehecka (32) (CZE)

Cameron Norrie (19) (GBR) vs Juan Pablo Varillas (PER)

Dusan Lajovic (SRB) vs Giulio Zeppieri (Q) (ITA)

Max Purcell (AUS) vs Mate Valkusz (Q) (HUN)

Albert Ramos-Vinolas (ESP) vs Casper Ruud (11) (NOR)

Tommy Paul (14) (USA) vs Gregoire Barrere (FRA)

Marcos Giron (USA) vs Jack Draper (GBR)

Miomir Kecmanovic (SRB) vs Yosuke Watanuki (JPN)

Rinky Hijikata (AUS) vs Jan-Lennard Struff (24) (GER)

Alexander Bublik (31) (KAZ) vs Sumit Nagal (Q) (IND)

Mackenzie McDonald (USA) vs Juncheng Shang (WC) (CHN)

Daniel Evans (GBR) vs Lorenzo Sonego (ITA)

Richard Gasquet (FRA) vs Carlos Alcaraz (2) (ESP)

#Australian Open #tennis

[allpromarlo]

MY GAAAAAAWD GERMANY

#4-1 is insane #football #euro 2020 #por vs ger #germany nt

[multifandomfangirll]

Now this is the kind of match we like to see!

#euro 2020 #por vs ger #portugal vs germany

[mwnchens]

19.06.2021 - The day the world discovered Robin Gosens

#robin gosens #germany national team #ger vs por #euro 2020

[neuerh]

MAN OF THE MATCH

#robin gosens #euro 2021 #ger vs por

[formulabwoah]

Why the yellow for Havertz, he went against Ronaldo so he obviously did God's work

#Football #euro 2021 #euro 2020 #Kai havertz #cristiano ronaldo #Germany #Portugal #Ger vs por #German nt

[theceaselessidiot]

I love that there's a really stubborn pigeon on the field that just flies away when the players get to close 😂😂

#euro 2021 #germany vs Portugal #ger vs por

[nolitetebastardescarborundorum]

This is the cup of own goals

#Euro 2020 #Ger vs por

[thomas-mvller]

I sincerely hope lewandowski and co. obliterates spain tomorrow

#i do not want to think about ger vs por tbh #rambless

[mydearlaurisdarzins]

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#por-ger in 40 minutes #should go make me some food to stress eat soon #can i hope loew doesn't screw this up or is it too late considering their starting 11 is the same as in the prev game where things didnt #work? #i might not get to watch the game vs hungary so i hope this isn't the last german game i see this tournament #please

[daikenkki]

US Open 2023 - Men's Singles Draw

Carlos Alcaraz (1) (ESP) vs Dominik Koepfer (GER)

Lloyd Harris (PR) (RSA) vs Guido Pella (PR) (ARG)

Botic Van de Zandschulp (NED) vs Jordan Thompson (AUS)

Daniel Elahi Galan (COL) vs Daniel Evans (26) (GBR)

Tallon Griekspoor (24) (NED) vs Arthur Fils (FRA)

Jason Kubler (AUS) vs Matteo Arnaldi (ITA)

Thanasi Kokkinakis (AUS) vs Yu Hsiou Hsu (Q) (TPE)

Alexander Shevchenko vs Cameron Norrie (16) (GBR)

Alexander Zverev (12) (GER) vs Aleksandar Vukic (AUS)

Daniel Altmaier (GER) vs Constant Lestienne (FRA)

Andy Murray (GBR) vs Corentin Moutet (FRA)

Alex Molcan (SVK) vs Grigor Dimitrov (19) (BUL)

Tomas Martin Etcheverry (30) (ARG) vs Otto Virtanen (Q) (FIN)

Stan Wawrinka (SUI) vs Yoshihito Nishioka (JPN)

Nicolas Moreno De Alboran (Q) (USA) vs Lorenzo Sonego (ITA)

Yannick Hanfmann (GER) vs Jannik Sinner (6) (ITA)

Daniil Medvedev (3) vs Attila Balazs (PR) (HUN)

Max Purcell (AUS) vs Christopher O'Connell (AUS)

Kei Nishikori (PR) (JPN) vs Felipe Meligeni Alves (Q) (BRA)

Sebastian Baez (ARG) vs Borna Coric (27) (CRO)

Nicolas Jarry (23) (CHI) vs Luca Van Assche (FRA)

Albert Ramos-Vinolas (ESP) vs Alex Michelsen (WC) (USA)

Yibing Wu (CHN) vs Dusan Lajovic (SRB)

Timofey Skatov (Q) (KAZ) vs Alex De Minaur (13) (AUS)

Karen Khachanov (11) vs Michael Mmoh (WC) (USA)

Facundo Diaz Acosta (ARG) vs John Isner (WC) (USA)

Radu Albot (MDA) vs Jack Draper (GBR)

Marc-Andrea Huesler (SUI) vs Hubert Hurkacz (17) (POL)

Ugo Humbert (29) (FRA) vs Matteo Berrettini (ITA)

Diego Schwartzman (ARG) vs Arthur Rinderknech (FRA)

Taro Daniel (Q) (JPN) vs Gael Monfils (PR) (FRA)

Emil Ruusuvuori (FIN) vs Andrey Rublev (8)

Casper Ruud (5) (NOR) vs Emilio Nava (Q) (USA)

J.J. Wolf (USA) vs Zhizhen Zhang (CHN)

Rinky Hijikata (WC) (AUS) vs Pavel Kotov

Marton Fucsovics (HUN) vs Sebastian Korda (31) (USA)

Adrian Mannarino (22) (FRA) vs Yosuke Watanuki (JPN)

Richard Gasquet (FRA) vs Fabian Marozsan (HUN)

Sebastian Ofner (AUT) vs Nuno Borges (POR)

Learner Tien (WC) (USA) vs Frances Tiafoe (10) (USA)

Tommy Paul (14) (USA) vs Stefano Travaglia (Q) (ITA)

Roman Safiullin vs Marco Cecchinato (ITA)

Ilya Ivashka vs Juan Manuel Cerundolo (ARG)

Marcos Giron (USA) vs Alejandro Davidovich Fokina (21) (ESP)

Alexander Bublik (25) (KAZ) vs Dominic Thiem (AUT)

Pedro Cachin (ARG) vs Ben Shelton (USA)

Aslan Karatsev vs Jiri Lehecka (CZE)

Roberto Carballes Baena (ESP) vs Holger Rune (4) (DEN)

Stefanos Tsitsipas (7) (GRE) vs Milos Raonic (PR) (CAN)

Dominic Stricker (Q) (SUI) vs Alexei Popyrin (AUS)

Quentin Halys (FRA) vs Benjamin Bonzi (WC) (FRA)

Soonwoo Kwon (KOR) vs Christopher Eubanks (28) (USA)

Lorenzo Musetti (18) (ITA) vs Titouan Droguet (Q) (FRA)

Jakub Mensik (Q) (CZE) vs Gregoire Barrere (FRA)

Miomir Kecmanovic (SRB) vs Juan Pablo Varillas (PER)

Steve Johnson (WC) (USA) vs Taylor Fritz (9) (USA)

Felix Auger-Aliassime (15) (CAN) vs Mackenzie McDonald (USA)

Hugo Dellien (PR) (BOL) vs Borna Gojo (Q) (CRO)

Jiri Vesely (PR) (CZE) vs Enzo Couacaud (Q) (FRA)

Zachary Svajda (Q) (USA) vs Francisco Cerundolo (20) (ARG)

Laslo Djere (32) (SRB) vs Brandon Nakashima (USA)

Sho Shimabukuro (Q) (JPN) vs Hugo Gaston (Q) (FRA)

Bernabe Zapata Miralles (ESP) vs Ethan Quinn (WC) (USA)

Alexandre Muller (FRA) vs Novak Djokovic (2) (SRB)

#US Open #tennis

[allpromarlo]

imagine getting cooked by this germany nt. embarrassing

#are you not ashamed of yourself? #are u not embarrassed this is really embarrassing #football #euro 2020 #por vs ger #germany nt

[multifandomfangirll]

Remember when I said I never support Germany.... I do today, I don't know why but I do.

#Let's go germany! #por vs ger #portugal vs germany #euro2020 #I will be a good neighbouring country and support you

[neuerh]

Post-match | Germany vs Portugal 19.06.21 | EURO 2020

#serge gnabry #ger vs por

[formulabwoah]

Hummels presented a new and innovative technique. The Portuguese are copying us

#football #euro 2021 #euro 2020 #Germany #Portugal #Ger vs por #German nt