#pro MCU Spider-Man

[ravenettelves]

why are majority of marvel fans whining so much when people love mcu spider-man and tom holland??? like okay i’m sorry i prefer the unproblematic character played by an unproblematic actor over the murderous, selfish characters played by racist and homophobic actors

#pro peter parker #peter parker #pro mcu spider-man #tom holland #mcu #marvel

[ircn-dad]

Here to remind you how Tony was unfocusing his gaze 'cause of the pain he felt while probably struggling to recognize what was happening around him and who was the person in front of him, but as soon as he heard "it's me, it's Peter" he immediately focused on him.

And while he couldn't find the force to speak, my theory is that he didn't do it also because he didn't know what to say to make the kid stop crying, to make the pain go away.

He knew what to do with Pepper and with Rhodey, their reactions were so part of their characters: Rhodey and Tony didn't need to share a word, they have been friends since ever and they understand each other without the need to talk; Pepper and Tony both smiled at each other, to reassure the other that everything and everyone will be fine.

With Peter? I think Tony not speaking was also in character. He didn't almost speak when Peter was dying, he didn't know what to do. He tried to comfort him when he said "you're alright", but as soon as things got worse he just stood there in shock, without never taking his eyes off him while Peter was crying and begging him to do something.

The same happens here:

In the photos you can't catch it very clearly, but if you watch the complete scene you can see how Tony is not taking his eyes off him and -even when Pepper is there and is trying to take him away- he's trying to calm him down with his eyes, because that's Peter, the kid he lost and that he found five years later just to lose him again. I don't know if I'm the only one, but I almost saw panic in his eyes, it's like he was scared about Peter not being okay and about him not saying a word again. That's why he whispered kid once he wasn't in his gaze anymore, he wanted to see him one last time, to make sure to reassure him like he did with Rhodey and, soon, with Pepper. To make Peter sure that he will be fine even without him.

#tony stark #peter parker #irondad #irondad analysis #marvel #mcu #spiderman #iron man #tony and peter #irondad and spiderson #spider son #rhodey #pepper potts #james rhodes #pepperony #endgame #avengers endgame #why am i still doings analysis after three years #tony deserves better #pro tony stark #tony stark analysis

[statisticalcats2]

#marvel #mcu #mcu spider-man #sm: h #happy hogan #tony stark #starker #statisticalcats creations #pro fiction safe #happy in the last gif like: ''YEAH tony. boundaries ARE good.''

[irondad-defensesquad]

me: *breathes*

everyone: YES, we know you love spider-man homecoming. WE KNOW.

#aka i keep finding little things to appreciate about this film #it's so fuuuuun #aaaaahhh #lotus speaks #spider-man: homecoming #homecoming #pro mcu peter parker #mcu peter parker

[animationaryc]

Peter Parker

Been experimenting with my art style and branching out while I've also been reading comics every day, this is the result of that <3

Surprisingly didn't take me that long, I really enjoyed the process too :)

#digital art #art #artists on tumblr #fanart #digital artist #spiderman fanart #spiderman art #spiderman #spider-man art #spider-man fanart #peter parker #spider-man #not mcu movie version #mini comic #comics #artists #clip studio paint art #clip studio paint pro #clip studio paint #clip studio paint illustration #clip studio art #digital illustration #csp #my art

[formerheroeswhoquittoolate]

why I'm unhappy with secret invasion: an accidental essay that turned out WAY more aggressive than I wanted it to (sorry about that)

I'm furious about how Secret Invasion is going. It feels like Marvel just went ahead with a Samuel L. Jackson vanity project, but and it's barely interesting and it's fucking with canon characterization. And it's fucking Secret Invasion! This could be meaningful! But instead it feels like it's trying to redo what TFATWS already did and did better. We already HAD a show about a global terrorist movement and the evils of white privilege, and it was actually really good, so what is this show supposed to be again? Oh. I see. It's different because Nick Fury is in it. Gotcha.

Oh, and [spoilers for ep 1 and 2]

They killed Maria Hill in the first episode. Not only did they kill her (which is bad enough from this studio, considering they've also killed Gamora, Natasha, and Wanda), but they fridged her. And not even kind-of-fridged, like with the aforementioned characters, where the death was required and mostly reasonable by in-universe circumstances, even if it was an easy out. No. Maria was literally, actually, to-the-letter fridged. They even confirm that in the dialogue of the second episode. Fury actually says that Gravik killed her to hurt him. She didn't have to die -- hell, if she wasn't going to be relevant to the rest of the show, she didn't even need to be in it in the first place! (More on that in a minute.)

And the thing is. The thing is. I would be so much happier with the show if the roles were reversed. Canon Fury is all "I still believe in heroes! There's good in people! Befriend the aliens!" He's a badass spymaster, yeah, sure, but he's also pretty optimistic about people. And then there's Maria Hill.

[Image description: Maria Hill, saying "Best advice you'll ever get from me, a dedicated law enforcement officer, to you, an amateur looking to go pro: 'Assume everyone is a broken, nightmare, garbage person and then be pleasantly surprised if it ends up not the case.' It'll save you a lifetime of disappointments."] [Image credits: Bendis and Pichelli's Spider-Man #12 (2017)]

That seems to have carried over into the MCU fairly well. And to see her? Struggling to fulfill Fury's goal after his death, operating without her mentor for the first time, trying to figure out how to reconcile his faith in the Skrulls with her natural instinct that everyone is lying all the time? To see her actually doing the work, speaking to the security committee and telling them to piss off, because Fury was in Moscow to do a hero's work and he died a hero, no further questions? To see her, the character who has long been reduced to the sidekick of male characters with a much shorter stint in Marvel's canon, fully come into her own as the protagonist of this series? It would have been perfect. We could have actually gotten a show full of espionage and intrigue instead of a hamfisted... racism metaphor? I'm not even sure at this point. This could have actually been something besides a Samuel L. Jackson vanity project. I know I said that already, but I am going to say it again. This show is here so Jackson can look cool and badass and also be a funny old man. And I wouldn't care if they weren't reducing every other meaningful character in the series to a Skrull, a corpse, or a realpolitik adversary. Like, fuck this false advertising. Maria Hill, Everett Ross, and Rhodey were all in the trailer like they were going to be relevant. As if this was going to be an interesting web of an ensemble cast. Instead, it's the Nick Fury show with a few redeeming scenes from the terrifyingly cheery British spymaster lady.

It's almost like Marvel knew no one would want to watch the show if they just straight-up said it was going to be all Nick Fury. And I haven't even started on the bullshit that was the train conversation (a whole monologue about sitting in the colored section on trains and then straight-up telling Talos there's not enough room for his people on the train? Was I the only one thrown off by that?) or the dialogue between him and Rhodey in the bar ("even when I'm out, I'm in.") or the Skrull wife reveal (which felt like it wanted to be some big important twist but it also had exactly zero setup) or... whatever is happening with Talos and Gaea. The next episode comes out in two days, and I'm still crossing my fingers that a miracle of plot will happen and it will get better. But it's going to take a miracle.

#marvel #mcu #secret invasion #nick fury #maria hill #skrulls #marvel cinematic universe #talos #everett ross #james rhodes #comics #fridging #rant post #except I have evidence #so it's really more of an essay

[chushanye]

Across the Spider-Verse was so weird because it's over two hours of just build-up with no payoff? This whole movie felt like a set up for the third part in the way the MCU does. And the thing is, they introduced two very interesting topics: parenthood and "opposing" police and then didn't deliver on either. The parenthood storyline featured set-ups like Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) and her baby. Gwen's "will you adopt me?" and possible found family especially with the repeated discussions on mentorship later in the movie. Gwen's dad commenting on how difficult parenthood is. Rio talking about how hard it is to let go of Miles being her little man. Jeff's talk with spider-man and that thing about spreading his wings. Peter B. Parker and Mayday. Miguel losing his daughter. Like there were so many threads that connected this theme of parenthood and kids learning how to be kind and responsible from adults but that they still need freedom and healthy rebellion even against loved ones. but it never went anywhere and none of it felt connected. at least not within this movie...which is 2h 20min long.

The scene where Miles is about to tell Rio he is Spider-Man could have been so interesting because the thread connecting all spider-people was NEVER cops- it was "Uncle Ben". It was and always has been family, grief, parental role-models and responsibility. but what also connects them is that all of these spider-people lied to their loved ones about their secret identity. right? like lack of communication and lying in order to "protect" them. and while the scene where you realize Miles went into the wrong universe was done fantastically - the music and atmosphere was so good - imagine how good it would have been if Miles chose to break the cycle of pain and death by being open with Rio. he breaks the cycle by being responsible, honest and having trust in his family! and they have to learn how to let him go and "fly" while trusting he will come home safe and that they will be able to care for him. + it would tie at least one theme in this movie together. but it was a fake out scene instead.

but this movie couldn't fully deliver on the parental theme because it goes hand-in-hand with the weird pro-cop thing. you have spider-punk who is there to question all authority but he can't be in the movie for too long because you just KNOW he's anti-police and we can't have that in this movie that literally relies on the assumption that what makes spider-people spider-man is that a fucking police chief dies. and also the whole spider organisation imprisoning anomalies and being judge jury and executioner of what is "right" for the multiverse, and Miguel BEATING THE SHIT out of Miles while telling him he was the original anomaly, that he is a mistake, and so on...(and lets not forget Miles is a young Black boy and all of this carried implications) and the whole plotline that the whole reason this spider-society exists is to specifically target MILES.....bro the implications are so fucking concerning.

and i mean from the first movie miles wants to become spider-man to "help" people the way his dad does so pro-cop idolization was there from the start. but then this sequel attempts to have some criticism of it as well with Gwen's storyline with her dad. where he almost shoots and attempts to arrest her. and i was watching that scene and thinking "you know this is really good criticism because it shows that 'good' cops aren't a thing because they fundamentally are there to protect a system and not actual justice." but then later in the movie they do a 180 and Gwen straight up goes "you're one of the good cops dad. you pick up that badge because if you didn't, worse people then you would" and it's like what kind of "not all cops. the good ones are somehow exempt from the system" bullshit is that? and i thought when she said "you're a good cop, dad" that she was gonna follow it up with "but you're a bad person because of it." and that would have been such a banger line and i got so hyped because that line was so good in my head but no they just straight up went the pro-cop route. also the whole "the thread that connects all spider-men is the death of a chief of police" made no fucking sense. why would the death of his girlfriends dad be super personal to Pavitr and motivate him to be a better Spider-Man???? literally what. WHY was the "thing that connects all spider-men" made to be a fucking police chief. like I'm sorry that's literally so stupid I was sitting there so fucking confused like "it was family????? the line was always with great power comes great responsibility and that they learn the lesion from someone near and dear to them. and Jeff taught miles to "go by the book" and Mile's opposing this spider-society is him refusing to do that (tying into the theme of rebellion) -> so he thematically realizes he need to oppose organisations that follow rules fundamentally opposed to his morals of not killing people....but he doesn't question his dads job? idk between that parallel and spider-punk, and gwen and her dad i thought something fruitful was gonna be there

but i guess i should be that surprised because marvel has been ramming the pro-military and pro-state propaganda for years now. it just feels so performative in this movie where gwen has "protect tans kids" on her wall and miles has a "BLM" pin.

#it is very late idk if any of this makes any sense #marvel #across the spiderverse #spiderverse #into the spider verse #spider man #miles morales #spiderman atsv #atsv spoilers #atsv

[racefortheironthrone]

How did Civil War differ in the books? I gave up around where Spider-Man went public with his identity (trying to keep track of all the crossover stuff put me off). The stuff you mentioned Tony doing suggests how that side was unreasonable, how was Cap being unreasonable (esp in a setting that thinks Magneto has a point for going homicidal at ANY of the stuff Tony & co proposed, when it's applied to mutants)?

To be clear on my Civil War ask, I am not trying to argue or troll, I find your points about the mutant metaphor in the context of a world with heroes interesting and I'm curious how you see the Sokovia Accords, or their book equivalents. The MCU had it that signing the Accords were required to superhero, so an Avenger who objected, could quit , but IIRC, in the books, that wasn't an option? Like superpowers meant you were conscripted or something? TBC, I was totally pro Cap in both versions

There are some pretty big differences between the comics and the MCU version of Civil War:

in the comics, Registration is meant to be a parallel to the Patriot Act in that it's a wild and tangentially-connected overreaction to a tragedy - the Stamford disaster was directly caused by the actions of a supervillain and had very little to do with the training and experience of the New Warriors. In the movie, the Sokovia Accords happen because of something that the Avengers were directly involved in, although they are similarly grounded in a desire by governments to bring a threat to their monopoly on force under control.

In the movie, while Steve doesn't like the Accords, he's initially intending to resign until he sees the Accords being used to justify a "kill on sight" order on Bucky - and even after he intervenes to save Bucky's life and ensure a modicum of due process, Steve is almost ready to sign on the dotted line when he finds out about Wanda being indefinitely detained. That's when he finds out Zemo and the Winter Soldier program and decides to violate the Accords in order to stop the conspiracy. In the books, Steve rejects the Registration Act on first principles, refuses any possibility of compromise, and becomes increasingly radicalized as time goes on.

Likewise, for his part, Tony is more willing to compromise on the Accords than he was on the Registration Act in the comics, and while he does have Vision put Wanda under house arrest out of panic, he's not involved in Ross' blacksite prisons and changes his position the moment he sees the Raft. There's also none of the really baroque evil shit, like the murderous Thor clone or putting together the Thunderbolts.

To answer some of your other questions: the people writing Civil War didn't agree on what the Registration Act was supposed to do, with some of them describing it as gun control and others as enslavement of anyone with superpowers. although pretty much everyone agreed on the interdimensional blacksite prisons business.

In terms of Cap being unreasonable, I would recommend listening to the podcast I recorded several years ago linked above, but I would point to two main things. The first is that Cap brings the Punisher into his Secret Avengers resistance, even though it's entirely predictable that Castle will start killing Tony's supervillains at the first opportunity. The second is that Cap decides to stage the final battle between himself and Tony in downtown NYC, with no concern for collateral damage or civilian casualties.

#marvel #marvel meta #mcu #captain america civil war #marvel civil war

[triscribe]

WIP Tag Game

Tagged by @crystalshard, which may prove to be a miscalculation, 'cause boy-howdy do I have a lot of works in progress...

Rules: In a new post, list the names of all the files in your WIP folder, regardless of how non-descriptive or ridiculous. Let people send you an ask with the title that most intrigues them and then post a little snippet of it or tell them something about it! And then tag as many people as you have WIPs.

/cracks knuckles

Star Wars: -Fulcrum & Family, the new Tano & Twins re-write -Dreamwalkers Luke and Leia -History Reversed with sequel trilogy Ahsoka, Luke, Ezra and students dropped back in the Clone Wars -Birds Fly sequel Can We Start Over, Bly's pov -Something Big is Happening (Misc/Understudies crossover) -Clone Wars Cass (DC/Batman crossover)

Marvel -The Big One (5+1 Spidey saves Morgan, Pepper meets Doc Strange, Another Chance conclusion with Wanda) -Kids Club, post-Civil War kidnapping fixit -MCU Miles Morales, title tbd -Spider Assassins AU, multi-continuity-combination -X-Fire, Laura/Wolverine, Gabby/Honeybadger, and Rachel/Phoenix -Heroes of Tomorrow re-write with way more kids from different superhero groups/families

DC -Pantheon AU -the revised Alf-verse (22 Bat-grandkids and counting) -Rotten Luck re-vamp (Young Justice season one Team in the Justice League Unlimited universe) -Continuations: The Batman "seasons six and seven" if I ever get around to re-writing the early stuff (my very first fan fic ever, I've improved a lot since those high school days) -Teen Titans meet Robin's horde of younger siblings (original cartoon) -Battorian AU (Diana is human, Clark's a demigod, Bruce came from another planet) -Mandalorian/Star Wars AU (Mando Alfred adopts orphaned Bruce. This is the Way.)

HP -Pair of Potters sequel, year two for Heather, official year one for Harry, the beginning of a long headache for Dumbledore -Founder Foundlings, reincarnation fic -Cheers to the Wish, more Guardian Ghosts Lily and James -Philosopher's Mirror, canon-divergence of the unintended resurrection variety -the third effing chapter of Muggle is as Muggle Does -Thief!Harry AU, my all-out middle finger to the Author Who Shall Not Be Named

Transformers -Terratron AU (Bee meets Dragonfly, Elita makes Artemis, Bee and Fly stumble across Megatron and Rion, Prowl and Beats, Beats finds Jazz, accidental babysitter Serrate, Hornet and her big race, etc etc) -Hard Facts and Simple Truths, humanformers AU -TFAnimated swapped 'verse, with Elita Prime and her team of spacebridge technicians: Arcee, Ironhide, Wasp, and Jazz -G1 sparkling-Starlane AU -TFPrime crossover with Hot Wheels: Battle Force Five

Atla -follow-up to A Small Condition, aka the "Monk Gyatso goes into the iceberg with Aang and Zuko assumes *he* is the Avatar" AU -continuation of Ursa leaving royal life and stumbling across a dying dragon who entrusts her with a baby and two unhatched eggs -Avatar!Yue learns airbending from Aang's grandkids and that whole big mess of world-altering changes

My Hero Academia -Doubles AU (finishing Brand New Day and getting a move on with Double Take as a canon re-write with Pro Hero Shimura Tenko) -continuation for Great Beasts of the Mountain -third chapter of Instinct, my first A/B/O attempt -more next generation fluff, the Archive and Guardian saga

Misc -Sea Beast fic where Crow gets injured, suffers total amnesia, the doctor who patches him up sends for Jacob, and there's a very awkward dance between them and Maisie and Blue as the old man slowly gets his memories back -The Faceless Wolf, a mildly (make that incredibly) ambitious Game of Thrones canon-divergence attempt -Jamie Reagan and the Terrible Horrible No-Good Very Bad Day, a Blue Bloods whump idea I've had rattling around for a while -Milo and Claggor Survived AU from LoL Arcane -Grandboss Gibbs, a bittersweet NCIS fic that would, in my opinion, have been a better end to the series than trying to go on without the main character of the show -Storm Hawks past-and-present-collide idea with some previous generation OCs -Edge Chronicles TWIG GETS TO MEET HIS MOTHER DAGNABIT -may as well throw in what will be my second self-published book, Trials of Youth, because the current draft is definitely a work in progress

Aaand we'll call that good. Now to see if I get any nibbles...

(I know the game says tag a person for each WIP but I don't think I've got that many writing acquaintances on here, so instead I've got one person per fandom grouping)

@wafflesrisa @eirianerisdar @jinxquickfoot @theredscreech @resamille @tarisilmarwen @icarussmicarus @gallusrostromegalus

#tag game #wip game #ask game #all the fandoms #but NOT all the wips in my files #the full list would've needed a Read More #...honestly this probably needs a Read More... but ah well

[nullconvention]

The cop-ification of Peter Parker, how he becomes the ward of Tony Stark, mega-capitalist, how his first movie was "beat up the petite bourgeois contractor who got his bid sniped out from under him by Stark", Morales' cop dad etc, make way more sense when you examine the MCU as an extended bit of nationalist propaganda - which it is.

And this was sorta big to discuss in the past, there wasn't a lot of call to mention it as the franchise loses some steam, but this is its dominant characteristic since 2008. Iron Man's milquetoast critique of for profit arms dealers largely becomes a non-existent sub plot following Civil War. Even in Iron Man, the critique against arms dealers is counteracted by Stark's own private intervention in the region and the case built for the need for an American presence in the region - the real problem with the American presence wasn't that Stark Industries was making weapons, it was that those weapons were making it into the hands of "terrorists."

Almost every Earth-level conflict was a conflict between a neoliberal order and any attempt to change it, cynically characterizing anyone who would change hegemonic capitalist liberalism as a self-interested bigot or fraud. Thus Spider-Man needs to be pro-cop because the hegemon is the police. Cap has to be pro unilateral military intervention. Black Panther has to dispose of a black nationalist revolutionary and replace that goal with a community center. It's propaganda all the way through.

[valkyrieandstrangeridingaragorn]

You know another thing that's so aggravating about how Waldron talks about Stephan Strange is knowing that this is coming from the same guy who created Mobius. "Oh, isn't Stephan so bad for thinking he knows best and scarfing Tony?" Coming from a guy who wants the audience to like a fascist and see him as ultimately a good guy because he thought he had a good reason for fascism.

Like it's totally A-OK for characters do these horrendous things so long as they're permitted by the system, but the second a character steps outside the system even if their actions are no worse if not even not as bad, only then does the character start being wrong

Maybe that's why Feige likes Mikey so much, he's as pro-status quo as they are. No wonder he included Captain Carter in the Illuminati, if he thinks they're the good guys, he must love her and despise Steve.

If I'm being honest with you, I think Waldron doesn't like heroes and he resents them for some reason. The underlying message of MoM is inherently anti heroes and the framing in the Loki series has the villains being justified in their actions (and they never have their ideology challenged) whereas the only character who acts like a hero is tortured and humiliated until he falls on his knees and begs for mercy.

Mobius was just "following orders" and his actions must be forgiven but Stephen must be made accountable for what Thanos did. Loki is told to take responsibility for what a variant of his had done (he didn't do it, but that's another story) and Stephen is called the greatest threat in the multiverse for something a variant of his had done (when the real villains there had been the Illuminati and sure as hell NOT 838 Stephen. In fact, he was a freaking hero in that universe). Neither the TVA agents nor the Illuminati are ever questioned, they're given absolute narrative protection and the person who actively fights against them (Loki, Stephen and Wanda) are said to be the real villains.

I just... sometimes I don't understand what Marvel is trying to do here. Superhero movies can challenge their heroes, I'm all for that, but isn't the point of these films to show the goodness, righteousness and kindness of these heroes as ideals to live by? Just like the SpiderVerse did with that whole "anyone can be a Spider-Man", that's the whole point of superhero movies. But when it comes to the MCU and its framing it just... it blows my mind. They're not telling the audience the heroes are the ones to follow and admire (and recently, every time there's a speech about goodness it's shown as naive or immature, like that scene of Talos with G'iah in the park), sometimes it seems like they're giving us these heroes and they're telling us "they know little of how the world works so pay them no mind. Oh, and also, the bad guys are good inside, go root for them".

#anti michael waldron #mcu salt #mcu critical

[gh0stsp1d3r]

It is absolutely your choice how you decide to portray characters, and I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but you know Hobie Brown is pretty much pro murdering certain ppl, right? His literal introduction in the comics is him killing someone

You can’t base the comics off the movies, I’ve read basically every single spider man and marvel comic, yes I know. I’ve read them since I was 8 years old…

And I’ve watched every single animated show (including the Lego ones leave me alone they’re very entertaining)

But every single character in the movies is way different than the ones in the movies.

Every mcu movie and show is totally different from the comics, if you actually have read the comics you would know that, and even the teams are different, such as the avengers, and the x men. Yes it’s different worlds but still, the mcu is said to be earth 616- it was mostly based on it, however the mcu we know is actually earth 19999

So yes I know that, but you can’t base the comics off the movie

#hobie brown #I’m so annoyed of this arguement #the comics r very different

[statisticalcats2]

Beck's having a great time at the meeting

#marvel #mcu #mcu spider-man #sm: ffh #quentin beck #mysterio #statisticalcats creations #pro fiction safe #this is a weird time to post but this was a very impromptu gifset #i wanted to gif that bottom left moment #and it turned into a thing

[irondad-defensesquad]

if tony truly didn't care about peter, then why would he let peter keep the suit? bc if it was rlly just about cap, tony would've dropped off the kid home without anything. but no, he let peter keep the case bc he wanted his kid to be safe.

i'm not ok.

#peter and his powerful puppy eyes: i can keep the suit? 🥺 #tony: he's so bright................... *puts sunglasses to hide how much he loves his kid (and failing)* #lotus speaks #irondad #homecoming #spider-man: homecoming #mcu peter parker #pro mcu peter parker

[stackthedeck]

do u know any fics where petermj is wlw

Okay so here's the thing anon I went looking for you and I'll tell you what, the pickings are slim for Peter/Mary Jane

I found like two fics that were actually Girl Peter and Girl Mary Jane and I make a rule of only reccing complete fics. So there's she put her love down soft and sweet by nightweb. It's loving dom/sub it feels pretty in character, good stuff!

I'm asking anyone who sees this post to write wlw petermj and put it in my inbox please

I also went looking for mcu petermj wlw and there's a lot more. Here's the two problems I ran into. 1. I don't like mcu spider-man fics and I especially don't like field trip fics. If that's your jam there's a lot of them. 2. I'm a huge fan of gender bends but only if they're either trans and named something more interesting than "the girl version" of their given name or if they're cis they've gotta keep their given name. I couldn't find any peter x mj wlw fics but I did find a lot of penny and petra fics and like... idk why it's just one of my squicks

pro tip when I'm looking for gender bend femslash, instead of using the gender bent tag, I use the category sorters include f/f and exclude m/m, f/m, and multi. I'm sure I miss a lot of stuff that way but I also don't have to sort through fics where the f/f pairing is the background ship.

You didn't ask but I checked the Peter/Gwen and Peter/Felicia tags for wlw fics, and there are a few but again it's only Penny and Petra

#asks #there are a couple m/m peter fics that have good f/f gender bends if you want those

[jeanjamesb]

That's the thing, they trying to shame Tom for not being an indie darling and "only being spider-man" and never being in awards conversation and only cater to kids and comic books fans... and the truth is : he isn't ashamed of all that, so why bother ?

You can like or dislike what the quality of the movies he's making but the facts are there : they're still entertaining. People still show up, so there's nothing inherently bad about that. I've seen so many think pieces about this man's career with people acting like he's MURDERING the art as a whole😩 It's ´ getting ridiculous

I'm sure it's rewarding to be recognized by your peers and ultimately actors would like to have both critical and commercial acclaim. But it's not a crime for Tom to be up there yet. And maybe he'll get there, he still got time. And even if he doesn't, he doesn't seem to be to pressed by it so people can stop bringing a screenshot of a rotten tomatoes score as a joker card

Honestly I think it's the fact that they can't shame him that makes them try to do it more. Plus some of their inherent bias against anything pro-MCU which Tom very much is.

Like alwayshuffy said, the audience loves him still and he himself and those he cares about are proud of what he accomplishes so the rest is just noise atp