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curiositysavesthecat · 23 hours
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I'm so sorry to say this but, your trauma is not an excuse to dictate what other people can consume in fiction or not.
Your abuser was a proshipper, I'm so sorry you had to endure that, but before being a proshipper, they were, simply, a piece of shit!
The problem is, they'd have been a piece of shit whether they consumed that kind of content or not. People are not black and white. You don't exclusively consume content that you think is right to replicate in real life (you would leave like 90% of anime and fiction out that way), nor do you suddenly start think problematic content is okay to replicate just because you consume it already.
What you experienced is horrible. It was wrong and I'm so so sorry you had to endure that, I really fucking am. But this, applying your trauma-born logic to a bigger population and liking a bunch of strangers online to your abuser because of the media they consume, is not how you cope or deal with the situation.
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ihhfhonao3 · 2 days
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Something something thinking about how antishipping is a very Americanized way of thinking because it’s justifying and being totally fine with the bloodiest most disgusting violence ever but crying and losing your shit when there’s an ounce of sexual connotation between the “wrong people” (or any sort of sexual connotation like at all)
gonna start saying “you’re not an antishipper, you’re a victim of US propaganda” like unironically
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duaghterofstories · 3 days
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What if Alastor’s deal, the one that Husk was talking about, is with Charlie. Maybe it’s not even a real deal? What if they met when he was human and they both became obsessed with each other. After he died, he tried to find an in with his princess and she assumed he went to Heaven.
There is a leash, a metaphorical one, that binds him to her. One he loves and adores, that he uses to follow her around. He always knows where she is and what she’s feeling. He is always there, waiting for her to see him properly, to actually take his soul in a deal.
Anyway, I’m writing a fanfic about this, so keep an eye out.
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hotshotalate · 11 hours
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"Proship" does not and has never meant "problematic ship"
The "pro" in "proship" is a prefix to mean "in favor of"
"Proship" was a label created after anti-[ship] was created
It has never meant "problematic ship"
If someone tells you that "proship" means "problematic ship" they are lying. Whether intentionally or not, they are perpetuating a lie spread by antishippers
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huntinglove · 3 days
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Imagine your non-human F/O...
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🧡 Having their speech affected by their features. Maybe they slur a few letters or have a hard time pronouncing certain words, but they'll always try their best to express their love for you!
🎩 Romancing you in unique ways. Being a different species and having different cultures can greatly affect how your F/O chooses to woo you! Maybe they give you unconventional gifts, or show their affection in unique ways, but no matter what, their love is genuine and entirely yours!
🧡 Having their temperature be different from yours. Maybe they're nice and cool, cuddling during hot summer nights is absolutely wonderful for both of you! Maybe they're soft and warm, like a living blanket that keeps you cozy during chilly winter nights!
🎩 Wanting to learn more about human traditions and customs. They want to make sure they're being respectful and kind to you, no matter what. Maybe they come to you for direct advice, or maybe they educate themselves through movies, books and music!
🧡 Asking for reassurance about their traits. Sometimes they feel inadequate to be with someone like you, they always want you to feel safe and cared for when they're around, so having you tell them that they don't scare you makes them feel much more comfortable in their own skin!
🎩 Your differences and similarities will always bring you closer together. They couldn't dream of a love sweeter than yours. No matter what, they'll always be in love with you, for as long as you'll have them!
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tiny-space-robot · 2 days
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just because a piece of media happens to have a fandom mostly made up of minors, doesn't mean it should.
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pro-sipper · 2 months
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"i want more media with zero drama, no tension, and zero problematic characters and i am not joking"
Great! Here are my recommendations:
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russetfur1128 · 9 months
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People seem to have forgotten that "proship" was the Fandom norm for the longest time.
Only, it wasn't called proship. It was called ship and let ship. Or minding your own buisness.
If someone had a ship you didn't like or thought was gross, you would avoid them. If they drew art or wrote stories you didn't agree with or like, you would ignore them.
There were tags like smut, whump, and angst to tell people about things they might not want to read. And then dead dove: do not eat for taboo subjects and especially gritty fic.
Then people started to ignore that. Younger fans started to bully people because they disagreed with shipping certain characters. Whether it be because it "wasn't canon", they thought it was gross, or they just didn't like it.
These people began calling themselves "anti-ship"
Pro-ship became a label to show that someone was against anti-ship.
Eventually, the anti-ship movement began to die down. So do you know what they did? They started accusing people. Of being pedophiles, groomers, rape supporters, and more. All because they wrote or drew things that these people didn't like.
They began claiming that THEY were the Fandom norm, and that these "proshippers" were the bad people. They started claiming that proship stood for "problematic shipping"
Due to this, the term "pro-ship" is often misconstrued as to what it means. Many people don't even KNOW what it means.
It means "anti-censorship".
It means that we support someone's right to produce art, no matter how gross, no matter how taboo, no matter how "problematic"
Because it's not hurting anyone.
If it's something you don't want to see? Block the person. Block the tag. Say in your bio that you don't like it. That's what they're FOR!
This was discussed in earlier days of fandom.
"I wonder why people would read a story in a genre they don't care for, then take the time to let the writer know that sure enough, they didn't care for it. That would be like me going to a restaurant, ordering a slice of cherry pie, then asking that the chef be brought out so I can say "I don't like cherry pie, and I didn't like yours either." To continue this analogy into its usual fannish outcome, the chef would say "Well gee, lady, why did you order it?" And I'd say, "Are you questioning my right to order cherry pie?"
-Unknown 2002
Except now, it would be like the person who didn't like the cherry pie and ordered it anyways then demanded that no restaurant serve cherry pie because it was poison. Not only is it a ridiculous request, it's blatantly untrue.
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bewareofdeaddove · 4 months
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Once you start harassing people over their tastes in fiction, you've gone too far.
You should not be sending anon hate.
You should not be telling people to kill themselves.
You should not be contacting people's family members, job, or school.
You should not be sending people gore.
You should not be telling people that they deserve their trauma.
You should not be attacking people over liking something fictional. At that point, you're the problem. Not the person making things you don't like, YOU. Harassment is never acceptable.
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catgirl-catboy · 4 months
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A common complaint I've seen about the proship community is that we don't take callouts seriously enough. Which, understandable!
But my 2 cents is that when "this user is an actual child predator", "this user ships minor/adult ships" and "this user is against harassing people over minor/adult ships" are treated with the same amount of severity, it is genuinely difficult to determine if someone is an actual threat to others.
If I see a callout post with evidence that could easily be doctored, or no evidence, its easy to assume that antis are making it up to ruin lives, considering the batshit insane shit antis send me on the reg.
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obianakin · 5 months
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some of you really aren’t gonna like this, but a creator’s wishes should never dictate what fan content is produced for a piece of media.
in the past, authors like anne rice have tried to limit the production of fanfiction. but at least rice was honest - she thought this infringed on her copywrite. back in the day, this was considered a valid argument to not create any fanfiction at all for her works.
do you understand what i’m saying? while you may sound valiant for placing a creator’s “discomfort” above the fan’s natural proclivities in fandom, really you’re just continuing to advocate for censorship in fan spaces.
and for anyone who is a creator, or who wants to become one - get comfortable with the rules of the internet. there will be erotic content made of your characters, there will be weird AUs made with your characters. there will be strange pairings and headcanons, no matter if you interact religiously with the fans or not. you cannot stop people from connecting with and wanting to be creative with your characters.
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pilvimarja · 2 months
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sals-sonic · 2 months
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"You have to be mindful when it comes to your art and who could potentially consume it!"
I can't control who sees my art. That's a fact. By putting it out on the Internet millions of people could see it and there's no way I could control anyone's reaction to it, let alone be able to stop them from viewing it. If you think that is precisely why people should be mindful, let me ask you this: why should an artist (or author) limit and censor themselves on account of a potential and imaginary "bad audience"? I'm sure that no matter the subject of the art, whether wholesome or problematic, it will eventually be viewed by people I disagree with.
Regardless, why should I let the paranoia of something that can't be controlled dictate what I create? If you're gonna walk on eggshells around your own creative process in fear of something that is ultimately impossible to avoid, you're fighting a losing battle. Stop focusing on things out of your control and policing yourself, and try instead to moderate your own personal space. Blocking accounts is the first thing to do and you can even filter tags if you want to, but never, under no circumstance, kill your art for anyone.
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hotshotalate · 16 hours
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Antis: We can tell when someone is actually making art for coping reasons and when they are actually making it for horny reasons!!!
People who are now hypersexual after what they went through and make art for both reasons: 🤨
People who deliberately like to make their art "romanticized" (according to antis) because it brings them comfort: 🤨
People who like making "serious works" that they actually get off to: 🤨
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huntinglove · 2 days
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"When I'm with you wishes come true" 💙
A little gift for my wonderful friend, @dinanozz!! I really hope you'll like it, you were both so much fun to draw!!
[Please click or tap for better quality! RBs are always appreciated!]
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