#puti

[thequivernews]

ବଡ଼ଦାଣ୍ଡ ମାର୍କେଟ କମ୍ପେ୍ଲକ୍ସ ଜଳିଲା, ଅଫିସରଙ୍କୁ ବନ୍ଧାଯିବା ଉଚିତ | THE Quiver

#puti #Odisha #KPDA #latestupdate #THEQuiver

[know-news-is-good-news]

Pretty soon, nuking the shit out of Russia will only effect the communist pigs that have remained there ! ! No one can replace Putin, if something should happen to him, if no one else is there ! !

#russia #puti #war #ukraine #nuke #the shit #OUT #of commie #pigs #nuclear #WMD #rassians #exiting #their #country #it's #a #very #good #idea

[angwytakoyaki]

Blanca Y Blangko

Puti, salamat naman at nakikita na kitang muli.

Unti-unting nawawala ang dilim,

baka pwede nang ngumiti?

Kawalan, 'di akalaing hihingiin kita,

pero mas gusto kong ikaw ang kasama,

kaysa sa aming mga alaala.

Puti, malinis na budhi.

Pagkatapos ng lahat ng ito,

ikaw sana ang manaig.

Kawalan, naghahanap kung nasa'n?

Ang mga pakiramdam...

Mga tao at bagay na sa'kin ay nakalaan.

-100 Tula ni Bela, Bela Padilla

#puti #kawalan #isip #alaala #pagbangon #ngiti #luha

[journeytothewestresearch]

Tree-Born Beings in JTTW?

Upon meeting the Monkey King, the Patriarch Subodhi asks him a number of questions, including his surname (xing, 姓). Monkey confuses this for an inquiry into his temperament or nature (xing, 性):

"I'm not speaking of your temperament," the Patriarch said. "I'm asking after the name of your parents." "I have no parents either," said the Monkey King. The Patriarch said, "If you have no parents, you must have been born from a tree" (Wu & Yu, 2012, vol. 1, pp. 114-115). 祖師道：「不是這個性。你父母原來姓甚麼？」 猴王道：「我也無父母。」 祖師道：「既無父母，想是樹上生的？」

The part in bold really interests me.

The possibility of something being born from a tree is the first thing that comes to Subodhi's mind. Remember that the Patriarch is an enlightened master with knowledge of a great many things. Therefore, within the novel's universe, this might point to a category of spirits born from the flowers and/or fruits of trees. Just imagine the possibilities for fanfiction!

This reminds me of Momotarō (桃太郎, "Peach Boy") from Japanese mythology. Like Monkey, he experiences a supernatural birth from a spherical object and later becomes a great hero who battles demons with the help of animal friends.

#trees #Sun Wukong #Monkey King #Journey to the West #Patriarch Subodhi #Master Puti #Peach Boy #Momotaro #Chinese mythology #Japanese mythology #tree mythology #plant mythology #fruit #flowers #peaches #immortal peaches

[the-monkey-ruler]

I'm in the chapter where Wukong admits to eating humans, so that's definitely canon from the novel?

I’ve talked about this and this before on some level but while he says that he has eaten people, it also says in a later chapter that he didn’t in order to perform a certain life-healing art.

You would find that a lot of people have talked about this before and funny enough I find a lot of agreement that Wukong was more just "talking up" to make himself seem more threatening due to how his powers work and thus he couldn't have eaten humans if his powers were to make sense.

Has Sun Wukong really eaten people?Look at what he said to the Jade Emperor with clairvoyance when he was just born

In the White Deer Arc, we see that Sanzang claims that only Wukong can use his primal breathe to heal as he has never eaten humans before like Wujing and Bajie have had.

It is also in Puti's teaching to Wukong that he even tells him that eating humans would ruin his cultivation and he needs to remain "pure" meaning that can't partake in 'bad' cultivation so to speak.

So while Wukong DID say he ate humans, I see a lot more people agree that he was just talking air to make a point since his powers prove that he couldn't have eaten humans else he would loose his immortality and healing abilities.

#anon ask #anonymous #jttw #anon #journey to the west #sun wukong #xiyouji #ask #master puti

[istopaskingmemate]

people act like losing macaque was the worse day of wukong's life which is kinda silly even if you do still belive wukong killed macaque. like I'm not saying that macaque wasn't super imporant to him or it wasn't a bad time for wukong but personally I belive that the death of pilgrems that he is still grieving after his 500 year long depresion episode absentce which the death aregreatly considered to be the cause of was propbaly a worse exerince...

just infrout of the time he found out that his people where geocided by heaven because of him or when his brotherhood abanded him on the battle field agaist the jade emperor leaving him to a grusome exocution or one of those 49 days during his exocution where he was burnt alive or even being kicked out by Master Puti.

like wukong has not had an easy care-free life. losing this one guy even if you consider them lovers even if you belive that wukong killed the guy in a blind rage; macaque is only one person in a very long line of lost loved ones.

#even if you belive wukong killed macaque in a blind rage wukong also killed azure in possibly a blind rage macaque's death is not specicel #to wukong macaque is just one person in a long line of relationships that turned bad #lego monkie kid #sun wukong #six eared macaque #master puti

[sketching-shark]

First attempt at illustrating Puti Zushi, the great immortal and Sun Wukong’s first shifu! I’m still pretty fuzzy on how precisely his kind of teaching and spiritual stance--which I understand to be a combination of Taoism and Buddhism--works, but I hope I did an okay job on this imagination.

#xiyouji #journey to the west #jttw #puti zhushi #patriarch subodhi #kind of neat to note that jttw was written during an era where there was a real effort #being put towards getting buddhism taoism and confucianism into harmony with each other #does make me wonder if the novel's imagining of patriarch subodhi was influenced by that... #shark's sketches

[sambuchito]

#mine #pinchaposting #subía su putifoto #ella se reveló del novio y con las wachas salió a disco de clavo el putishor y se puso a bailar con el puti puti puti shorrr lo mueve

[relmint]

You know I like to think that Patriarch Puti wasn't really able to teach Wukong well in the first few months of being his sifu. Sun Wukong is skilled and a fast learner, yes, but Patriarch Puti tries to make Sun Wukong conform to HIS way of things, and tries to put Sun Wukong in this mold of what he thinks a good student and cultivator should be. This greatly diminishes the potential Sun Wukong could have if Puti just...lets Sun Wukong be himself. I can see in their first classes Puti would constantly tell Wukong that "Oh, this is not the right way", and "This is not how we do things here." Patriarch Puti is disciplined and a man set in his ways. But soon Puti sees Sun Wukong is not like his other students. And once Patriarch Puti realizes this, I like to think he adjusts the way he teaches Sun Wukong to accommodate his tudi more. And at this, Sun Wukong just thrives. Sun Wukong manages to shine even more and Patriarch Puti has never been any prouder.

#relscreeches #jttw #patriarch puti #sun wukong #even as a sifu you can learn a thing or two from teaching your students #and Sun Wukong is very happy to make his sifu proud #and also this is what makes Patriarch Puti a very good teacher to Wukong compared to Tripitaka #But Puti is still strict tho

[lavaflowe]

I am having thoughts and feelings about Wukongs relationship with both of his shifu’s and how they both betrayed his trust and it makes me so sad???

Like, it seemed like Wukong was having fun and playing around with the other tudi, it seemed very wholesome. But Puti stops him and says he can’t let Wukong stay anymore because it’s dangerous? It might be in Wukongs best interest, but then Puti threatens to skin him and break his bones if he ever speaks of him again? That makes me so sad for Wukong, especially since he was with Puti for 20 years!

Then the next shifu he has is Tripitaka, who releases him from the mountain. They had moral differences and clashed, but why is the circlet the only attempt to get him to listen? And Wukong is tricked into wearing something no one but Buddha can take off. The circlet is used unjustly as well, since Tripitaka doesn’t believe Wukong when he says there is danger. He tries his best to do what’s right, but gets punished regardless.

IT MAKES ME SAD AJFJAHH

#lavachatter #sun wukong #jttw #jttw tripitaka #jttw patriarch Puti #idk if shifu’s can be father figures?? #but damn do I get those vibes and it just makes my found family heart SOB #His only two father figures and they both hurt him in aweful ways :((( #cause when swk goes to train with Puti he definitely still feels like a kid #and if my father figure said that to me?? I would not be the same after #idk I know this isn’t totally book accurate but Wukong did cry when Puti kicked him out #and then Tripitaka #who saved him from 500 years of isolation immediately turns around and sticks the circlet on him… #especially father along in the Journey when their relationship has developed more and Tripitaka still doesn’t believe Wukong #and Wukong is afraid to speak up because Tripitaka might use the circlet?? #IM IN MY FEELINGS

[antidotefortheawkward-art]

"i'm teaching a monkey yao a forbidden method of immortality!!!" girl... what were YOU doing knowing a forbidden method of immortality

[ID: A three page comic done in white and shades of purple. Characters are uncolored, but have shading.

First panel has Patriarch Puti and Sun Wukong walking in an enclosed back garden, with Sun Wukong looking up at Patriarch Puti seriously as his sifu speaks. Patriarch Puti says, "These techniques, although effective, are dangerous. They are teachings outside of known doctrine. What you have done is stolen the creative powers of Heaven and Earth, intruded on the dark machinations of the moon and sun."

Second panel has Sun Wukong considering this somberly. He says, "Sifu... That's..." He processes for a moment, and says "Wait-"

In the third panel, Sun Wukong looks up at Patriarch Puti with a knowing mischievous grin, while Patriarch Puti looks very tired, as if he already knows what SWK is about to say. Sun Wukong asks, "If they're so unknown and forbidden, how do you know them then?"

Fourth panel has Patriarch Puti simply stating, "Wukong, as the next generation, your responsibility is to learn from the mistakes of your elders." Sun Wukong responds, "ha okay." In the background, with the caption "Several hundred years ago," there is a flashback of a young Patriarch Puti running away as a strike of lightning barely misses his feet.

End ID]

#journey to the west #jttw #xiyouji #sun wukong #monkey king #patriarch puti #puti shifu #had two concepts for patriarch puti in my head and was not sure which one im gonna go with #one ver is where he was just as reckless and a menace as swk in his youth but he either mellowed out as he grew older #or somethingTM happened to make him realize his actions have consequences #and thus he has a soft spot for swk because he sees a bit of himself in swk #second version is where he's always been serious and mellow but now that he's this old he kinda regrets not acting out more #and thus he respects swk's boldness and wishes to somewhat nurture that boldness #🤔 but now i think im going with an in-between ver #being a puti shifu who was very skilled and bold and gifted in his youth but all his rebelliousness was spent on more self-serving things #rather than fighting any injustices in the system like swk #nd now that he's older he regrets that and he's a teacher now wanting to pass his skills onto new generations to do some good now #<- btw re: the wording of swk 'fighting injustice in the system'- #-i am a swk apologist <3 yaoguai rights <3 but i also dont wanna give off the impression that i think he was 100% entirely in the right- #-villain swk rights <3 #but yeah i think while he was at puti's school (constantly reminded he's not a human or immortal) he was moreso of the mind: #'fucking sucks that yaoguai are mistrusted and not treated the same' #and that remains his core motivating factor but as he grows more power and leaves puti's side he kinda kinda loses sight of that a bit ykno #as he gets more megalomaniac yaoguai warlord #anyways yea #swk was still right tho <3 <- correct

[nikofortuna]

JTTW Chapter 2 Thoughts

Onto the second chapter for the @journeythroughjourneytothewest Reading Group!

On dual-reading, it has now become a multi-reading of each chapter as I have added the German translation for additional comparison! At that point shoutout to @journeytothewestresearch for compiling many different translations including the German one!

For those who understand German, I can very much recommend taking a look at the translation. It is very easy to read, almost reading modern/casual. Though it does not translate everything for example most of the poems of which the ones essential to the story are kept while the descriptive ones are largely glossed over. However instead it has some pictures, which were really lovely to see!

Either way the second chapter has been overall easier to go through in my opinion than the first one likely due to it having more dialogue. In hindsight there was a lot of exposition in the first, while this one really gets the story rolling.

Sun Wukong reads so neurodivergent to me and I adore it so much! Him practically stimming when he’s happy is so cute! Additionally immortality is basically his special interest or at least his current hyperfixation. Not to mention him calling himself stupid/feeble-minded, when he is actually really smart! He just doesn’t understand slang, which honestly I didn’t get the first two metaphors without the explanation either, only the one about scooping the moon from the water I figured right away.

It is also rather interesting how Sun Wukong is very relaxed with everything as of current, even the few times he does get insulted. He truly displays no temper, yet. The first instance of him getting the angry kind of upset is when he finds out his family has been attacked, which is very understandable. I wonder if getting sent away by Patriarch Subodhi has put a first crack into his self-confidence.

Speaking of Patriarch Subodhi he is such a Dad to Sun Wukong. Particularly when he wants to keep Sun Wukong out of danger even if that means sending him away. I believe he might suspect his other disciples to potentially trouble him now that they know of his abilities. Though he doesn’t actually blame Sun Wukong for showing off since he didn’t know better at the time.

And he’s a great teacher too with how he adjusts his teaching to the specific ways his student does things! I actually didn’t know before that the Cloud Somersault is a technique specific to Sun Wukong, while most other’s practice Cloud Soaring instead. Very neat to see!

Once again a second read of the J.F. Jenner translation coming in clutch with additional understanding! Particularly of the different divisions via the titles with the mention of Sects. Truly made me go “Oh yeah, it’s that Way!”.

On a related note to this particular example, I always get very happy whenever my love for Xianxia and Cultivation comes into play in understanding certain things like what Dāntián are. Or another term I recognized correctly being Elder Brother aka Shīxiōng.

Also I knew exactly what Patriarch Subodhi was holding thanks to it.

Additionally I occasionally use a combination of the Chinese version and Google Translate whenever I pick up on a term I recognize to check if I’m correct.

Like Lǎo Sūn whenever Sun Wukong calls himself Elder Sun or Old Monkey depending on the translation.

The specific phrase I checked up on for this is:

你不要怕，只吃老孫一拳。

Nǐ bùyào pà, zhǐ chī lǎo sūn yī quán.

Or Xiǎo Sūn for “Little Sun”, but that’s an easy one.

Regarding this scene specifically, I actually prefer the J.F. Jenner translation of it, though a mash-up of both would be ideal in my eyes. May I propose: "If the Great King is Elder Sun, then we are all Second Sun, Third Sun, Little Sun, Junior Sun - a family of Suns, a nation of Suns, a den of Suns."

Though an honourable mention goes to the German translation, particularly the “fein und klein” part, which is a very adorable way of saying it!

I would like to point out the Audio Drama Series again. Even if you don’t listen to the chapters themselves, do definitely check out the Production Notes for each! They’ll give you some extra insight that even with all its notes the Anthony C. Yu translation doesn’t provide.

It actually took me over five hours to finish this up. Roughly four of it having been spent going through each translation of the chapter and another one to refine all my notes into a coherent post.

#xiyouji #journey to the west #jttw #sun wukong #monkey king #patriarch subodhi #puti zushi #jttw reading group #jttw book club

[journeytothewestresearch]

Wait, Sun Wukong is a Buddhist monk, Jade Emperor is from Taoist myth then which myth Patriarch Subodhi came from?? Is he from Taoist myth?

Subodhi is based on Subhuti, one of the ten main disciples of the Buddha. Despite Subodhi's image as a Taoist immortal in popular culture, JTTW actually suggests that he is a Buddhist deity. See section 2.3 of my previous article.

#Subodhi #Subhuti #Master Puti #Journey to the West #JTTW #Buddhism #Taoism #sun wukong #monkey king #lego monkie kid

[the-monkey-ruler]

how long did swk study taoism and did he complete his training before he was kicked out?

Short answer: It took him about 10 years to find the place and another 10 years to learn. So he was gone for about 20 years.

Long answer:

When he left Flower Fruit Mountain it took him about 8 or 9 years (I would say 10 to make it safe) for him to find even a clue as to where an immortal would be. In that time it looked like he had learned and went from cities to towns and in the woods, learning about the human world on his own though there is little to say as he didn't seem to run into trouble or cause trouble in that time (besides stealing some poor sap's clothes).

It was only when he found a Woodcutter that lived near the Master Puti did he finally have an idea of where to go.

He was able to join and from there trained for the first 7 years in the art of scholarly studies and botany. He was given general chores, etiquette, scriptures, writing, reading, and so on.

It is only after 7 years that was he able to start training in a certain division from which there are about 360 different kinds. He was offered Method division, Schools division, Silence division, and Action division but denied each one but each one only asking for one that will give him immortality. From there of course he solved Master Puti's test and was able to get the oral formulas for immortality through the Dao.

He then studied ANOTHER 3 years on top of his 7 only to learn he would face three calamities for learning apparently the 'stolen' ways of immorality and this must protect himself from these calamities that being thunder sent from heaven after 500 years, fire to burn him alive after another 500 years and then a great wind to disintegrated him after about 500 years to make sure he is dead.

Funny enough I don't think we see these things but either way, he was able to avoid them learning the 72 transformations under Puti. He wanted 72 over the normal 36 because that is more, and more is always better.

It doesn't say how long it took Wukong to learn these transformations nor how long it took his supper sault cloud just that he practiced day and night. But considering that he started in his tenth year and left in his tenth year it must have been between those 12 months.

So if you wanna break it down.

9 years - looking for an Immortal

1 year - search near the Western Ocean

7 years - studied etiquette and scholarly pursuits

3 years - mastering his foundational studies

ending months - 72 transformations and somersault cloud

20 years altogether

#sun wukong #jttw #journey to the west #xiyouji #master puti #Patriarch Subodhi #Master Bodhi #Puti Zushi #monkey king #anon #anon ask #anonymous #ask