#queer discourse

[thegirlmirage]

My queers, we really need to put the "no men" thing away. Men are not inherently bad. There are queer men. There are questioning men. There's men that are just plain cool. Denying these men a space at our table is not helping - except the TERFs. I just came off the back of reading a transphobe gleeful rant about the need to have pride without men - They of course mean me. This kind of stuff is damaging to me and I really need us all to take a step back and maybe kill this "men dni, men not allowed" stuff. What you mean is "no men who are going to do mean stuff to me." And frankly those men won't give a shit about that kind of boundary.

But I promise you there's a fleet of good honest men who will see that and be sad they're not allowed in your version of queer spaces.

PATRIARCHY is what you hate. Dni Patriarchs.

#men #queer discourse #“men dni” #men at pride #trans rights

[wizardpotions]

in light of the exposed emails about the media obsession with transphobia being a manufactured moral panic to increase conservative votes id like to remind you that we've been saying for years that the right will try to divide and conquer the queer community. and you are a traitor if you are a cis LGB person who let the right sucker you into transphobia and voting for politicians who will put laws in against us. they will come for you next.

#lgbt #lgbtq #queer #queer discourse #save

[golden-haired-native]

To adress this recent discourse I saw

Cishet Aromantic men ARE LGBT!

No other way around it, they are queer and if you disagree go fuck yourself

#lgbtq #lgbtqia #aroace #aro #aromantic #arospec #aro positivity #queer discourse #why the fuck wouldn’t they be queer? #THE A STANDS FOR AROMANTIC AND ASEXUAL NOT FUCKING ALLY

[punkitt-is-here]

I love when dumb people trying to start shit see me being chill about funky gender/sexuality/label stuff and they go "oh yeah well what if a MAN identified as a LESBIAN or a GIRL wanted to ID as a GAY MAN" and their brain short circuits when I go "yeah whatev. Who cares. Doesn't affect me at all." It's like what were you expecting coming into the tiger den like that homeboy. Did u not understand who you were working with here.

#my posts #queer discourse

[transmascpetewentz]

Say it with me, because it seems some people (targeted) have forgotten this:

A gay man's lack of attraction to women is not misogyny.

A bisexual man's choice to date men is not misogyny.

A bisexual man's choice to date women is not misogyny.

A bisexual man's choice to date no one is not misogyny.

An asexual man's lack of attraction to women is not misogyny.

A trans man's response to trauma with womanhood is not misogyny.

A straight trans man's transition is not to escape misogyny, and it is not misogyny.

A bisexual trans man's choice to date men, women, neither, or both is not misogyny.

A gay trans man's lack of attraction to women and not wanting to be called a woman, is not misogyny.

Gay trans men distancing ourselves from womanhood, often as a response to being forced to be women for many years, is not misogynistic!

Queer men are not inherently more misogynistic than men who aren't queer. Queer men's queerness is not misogyny.

#wentz.txt #transandrophobia #queer discourse #long post

[girlinlavender]

reminder that young, white, allosexual, alloromantic, cisgender queer people are not the only queer people and should not be the only queer representation ever. PLEASE, more black trans women, older people just discovering they’re asexual, genderqueer indigenous people, aromantic nonbinary teenagers, cute interracial lesbian couples, intersex people, etc, in media. The queer community is messy and beautiful and multifaceted and complex and colorful, and representing only the most “easily digestible” aspects of it does NOT make you a good ally or a good person. It makes you a fucking dick.

#queer #lesbian #bisexual #transgender #genderqueer #intersex #asexual #aromantic #pansexual #gay #nonbinary #queer discourse #queer representation

[bli-o]

ok but the “lgbtq groomers are indoctrinating children” narrative is so strange to me cuz like. i had it hammered into my head so hard that i was a girl that i thought i was, as a uterus haver, obligated to have my ear impaled at eight years old. I was so conditioned into heteronormativity that i thought my only choice in life was to grow up, marry a cisgender christian man, and have his babies. Like the adults in my life practically shipped me with this guy friend i had when i was like 6 to the point where i thought we had to date when we got older. you know who’s never made me feel anything like that? queer people. when conservatives say “indoctrinating” they mean “inspiring dissent that could disrupt the status quo we’ve forced upon everyone”

#lgbtq community #lgbt #lgbtq #lgbt community #lgbtqia #lgbtq+ #lgbtqplus #lgbtqia+ #trans #transgender #trans issues #trans community #transgender pride #queer #queer community #queer pride #pride #nonbinary #queer issues #queer discourse #conservatives #heteronormativity #blios rants

[scavengerssuccotash]

I apparently have thoughts that are not fandom related: Oops

I would like to point out that if Hbomberguy DIDNT make a video and fucking annihilate James Somerton’s credibility that this would’ve continued in perpetuity.

I would also like to make it ABUNDANTLY clear that we CANNOT and should not rely on a balding British bi-man to save the day whenever he finds a rabbit hole. (Though I do love him and find his work exceptional and thought provoking.)

The burden of proof that we expect out of Hbomberguy’s videos should not be resigned to him alone (or any other creator).

It’s on us.

It’s on all of us.

We all need to take the time to reevaluate how we consume media and the method of that consumption as it relates to our collective knowledge as a whole.

YOU have to start thinking critically and checking sources, because it’s been made clear time and time again that those at the top will neglect to do the work if it interferes with their ability to make money. (Or apparently if it’s just too hard or they don’t give a shit.)

So, as in the ever timeless wise words of a certain North American Bear….

Only you can stop the spread of misinformation.

Only you can stop the spread of plagiarism.

#hbomberguy #james somerton #todd in the shadows #youtube discourse #youtube #plagarism #misinformation #queer community #queer discourse

[sociallyanxiousdragon]

I hate posts like "support and love trans people especially trans women/fems" or "don't out trans people especially not trans women/fems"

Trans mascs and unaligned nonbinary people are not secondary in deserving of love and support and safety

I understand if you focus your activism on one group over another because there's only so much energy

And I understand if someone is talking about a very specific situation that *does* vastly affect one group more than another

But one group of trans people should not inherently be a lower priority, and if you're bringing both up, you need to not act like one is more deserving of help than another

(I'm not saying trans women are responsible for these posts -- I primarily see them from cis allies though trans people do also make them)

#jax yacks #queer discourse #intracommunity issues #transandrophobia #exorsexism

[chaberkowepole]

I still can't get over the fact that some people have a qualm with a Swiss person using "it" pronouns when that is a very common thing to do for non binary people here

Every time I'm in a queer meeting there is somebody who introduces itself with "es", we don't have native they/them pronouns, different languages and queer cultures exist like,,,,

And even if it wasn't common you people need to chill

#no fly list #maia arson crimew #Switzerland #Anglo centrism strikes again smh #queer discourse

[thegirlmirage]

Transfem to Transmasc solitary must exist as much as any trans solidarity must exist.

Protect my boys.

#queer discourse #trans positivity #trans #queer identity #transgender #queer solidarity

[hussyknee]

One thing you have to remember is that online queer discourse doesn't make a damn bit of difference to systemic queerphobia irl or LGBT rights. No amount of playing respectability politics by identifying the "real freaks" will ever lead to sexual emancipation or prevent sexual violence. No amount of trying to identify and cast out "oppressors" and "infiltrators" will ever make homophobes and transphobes respect the sanctity of your sexual identity. Not letting people have words and flags and colours is absolutely nothing except a weapon for online harrassment and clout-chasing wielded by white and Western weirdos who've drunk the colonizer Kool-Aid.

#queer discourse #gatekeeping #bi lesbian #pan lesbian #pansexuality #aphobia #arophobia #transandrophobia #mspec lesbian #online harrassment #respectability politics #purity culture #kinkphobia #western leftists #white queers #anti radfem #lgbtqia #knee of huss

[punkitt-is-here]

the term femboy is kind of. eeehhh since it originated as a porn term for trans women and im personally made uncomfortable by it but if someone wants to call themselves that who am i to stop them yknow

Im glad you're okay with other people calling themselves that but at some point I just gotta call you guys fucking nerds for saying "ehhhh" about like. The most gentle possible terms for people to identify with out there. 99% of the time I see the word used it's either at people who self identify as such or at fictional characters who like. Obviously do not exist. I've been transgender for years and online for even longer and I've literally only heard the term used for men who are deliberately feminine and self identifying as such or like. Anime characters. I dunno what circles you folks frequent but it's not the same as me

#my posts #asks #anon #queer discourse

[thee-radio-host-is-a-kookaburra]

Actually, speaking of the tags on my last post, you guys get so violent over online queer discourse and it’s honestly really fucked up.

I’ve seen baeddels talk about how they want to misgender and beat up “transandrophobia truthers”. I’ve seen people say they’ll kill fellow queer people who use the “toothpaste” ocean mlm flag. I’ve seen exclus talking about sending gore to mspec monos.

You guys seriously need to go outside and maybe get therapy if you have such violent tendencies towards fellow queer people. Like you honestly sound insufferable if you act like this. Where’s this energy towards the politicians killing us? Or do you just hate other queer people who aren’t queer in the way you like?

#like jesus fucking christ #critinclus #baeddel #baeddelism #mspec mono #mspec lesbian #mspec gay #transandrophobia #ocean gay flag #queer discourse

[baixueagain]

Couldn’t help but notice this reblog in a certain recent “queer is a slur” discourse post.

Beyond being ahistorical, it is significant in its third paragraph, which is almost entirely made up with TERF and alt right dog whistles. For anyone who has even a basic idea of what to look for, this blogger has just outright shown their hand.

Let’s start from the beginning of the text I’ve marked in blue:

“a pedophilia and incest apologist”

This is a very handy tactic especially prevalent in alt-right rhetoric these days. It stigmatises anything it is attached to, in this case the person who coined the term “queer theory.” Topics like pedophilia and incest are extremely taboo and emotionally laden, and attaching them to a subject will cause many people to automatically distance themselves from that term out of a semi-instinctive desire to not associate themselves with such things. Spread this attachment widely enough, and you can push entire groups into abandoning terminology, praxis, and people.

For the record, I’m not sure of the source for this claim. The woman who coined the term “queer theory” was Teresa de Laurentis, and I’ve never seen anything by her which tries to excuse pedophilia or incest. She certainly wrote about the gendered nature of incest, but this was in no way laudatory. This may also be a reference to the work of Gloria Anzaldua, who helped further popularize the term. She spoke frankly and openly about her sexual fantasies, many of them of a taboo nature, because of her firm belief in de-stigmatizing discussions about human sexual behaviour. Not only are such fantasies extremely common, they are in no way apologetics for real life abuse, nor do they predict real life behaviour.

“a straight woman with a fetish for gay men”

We’ve gotten to the transphobic dogwhistle now. This is an accusation frequently used against trans men and nonbinary AFAB people, especially those who pursue relationships with men. With the current surge in transphobic public rhetoric, it has received a new breath of life, and trans mlm are currently facing a slew of accusations of being straight women/girls who have just fetishized gay men to the point that they’re trying to “become” gay men/boys themselves (CW: link leads to transphobic hate site genderhq.org). These accusations are even being used in queer circles--including by trans people--to gatekeep who “gets” to write fiction about mlm. Just a week ago, for example, queer writer Alex Marraccini accused indie trans mlm author Ana Mardoll of fetishizing mlm, claiming that Ana’s “fetishistic” writing isn’t nearly as groundbreaking or liberating as the work of real cis gay men.

I’m not sure who the blogger is referring to here as there’s no real consensus on who first used the term “queer studies.” However, I think they may be referring to Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick, who was most certainly not a straight woman. She was queer and came out as a trans man, though as far as I know continued to publicly prefer she/her pronouns (hence my own pronoun use here).

“use intentionally over academic language”

Ah, good old anti-intellectualism. If I can’t understand you, you must be using over-academic language just to confuse me on purpose. This dogwhistle not only gives people an excuse to dismiss anything they don’t understand straight away, it pushes the conspiracy theory that we academics are part of an ivory tower conspiracy to Queer Everything for...reasons (see below).

“to obfuscate that their founding texts and members are Marxists”

Aaaand here we are, the full show of the hand. This blogger is either alt-right or well down the pipeline to becoming one. The old chestnut that These Academics We Disagree With are all secret Marxists is one that is, you guessed it, strongly tied into antisemitism and Nazi conspiracies that push the belief that Karl Marx, Marxism, and Marxists are part of a global Jewish conspiracy that seeks to destroy the West.

And of course we have one more “incest and pedophilia” whistle to round things off, just to doubly ensure that people understandably disgusted by those things attach them to queer theorists.

Anyway, once again I beg the good people of Tumblr to please pay close attention to TERF rhetoric, where it comes from, how it’s used, and the other movements that it is tied to. I am not being a paranoid conspiracist when I say that “queer is a slur” discoursers and “pedophilia and incest” scaremongers and their ilk (including anti-kink discoursers) are tied to TERF rhetoric, which is itself allied increasingly with the alt right. They are telling you this for themselves. Listen to them when they tell you who they are.

#queer #queer discourse #discourse #lgbtq #transphobia #terfism #dogwhistles #terf rhetoric

[plague-and-creatures]

Anyone LGBT+ who censors queer is most likely exclusionist and will have the shittiest fucking opinions on queerness

#lgbtq community #lgbtq #lgbtqia #lgbtqia+ #lgbt #fuck exclusionists #anti exclusionist #hazardqueer #queerness #queer community #queer as in fuck you #queer discourse #queer #we don't censor queer