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chirpsythismorning · 1 year

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Why I Don’t Experience Byler Doubt

It’s simple. One of the most essential techniques in storytelling: Show, don’t tell.

Show, don't tell is a technique that allows the audience to experience the story through actions, words, subtext, thoughts, senses, and feelings rather than exclusively through the creators' exposition, summarization, and description.

Even more importantly (assuming we want to enjoy ourselves bc this is supposed to be high quality entertainment), it adds drama. Rather than telling viewers what's happening, a filmmaker will use this technique to show drama unfold. 'Telling' is factual and avoids detail; while 'showing,' is detailed and places the human subject at the centre of the drama.

This technique is literally playing out in the narrative when it comes to Mike’s inability to tell El he loves her (or even simply write love Mike in his letters), which he never would have had to tell her (spell out) in the first place, if he had just shown her that he loved her.

It’s no fun having to spoon feed your audience. Instead, it's much more enjoyable for the storyteller to present the truth in the details, even sometimes contradicting very basic assumptions that are being outright told. Hence why, for example, when the Duffers were asked about the Vecna reveal, Ross used the opportunity to go on a mini tangent: 'the best twists are ones that you go, “Oh, I should have seen that coming.” As opposed to the twists that go, “Oh, well that just came out of nowhere.” So, “Oh, I missed these clues along the way.” But you get nervous when you’re writing it because you go, “Well, to me it seems obvious--'.

In fact, Show, don't tell is what largely allows surprise revelations to hide in plain sight. Because obviously, if a writer just tells their audience everything that's happening while it's happening, we would always see what's coming next.

And so the problem I have with downplaying or even completely refusing to acknowledge the importance of Show, don't tell, in the case of Stranger Things especially, is that, in order to comfortably subscribe to what is being told, I have to ignore what is being shown.

We see this play out all the time on Reddit in particular, which if I'm being honest is the only platform at this point that treats mere speculation about Will and Mike's relationship as if it is the end of the world. On the rare occasion the mods don't remove a byler related post, the post is either already negative towards byler or the comments are filled with fury over the poster simply thinking critically by speculating about byler. Even if you manage to get a fan over there in the comments to consider certain evidence pointing towards byler as incriminating, they'll still manage to end it by downplaying the Duffers and their abilities, because 'They're not that smart!'...

They'll ask for evidence, be presented with it, only to insist that it's all reaching because details mean nothing and everything about the show is actually just surface level, ie. it's not that deep.

Without even realizing it, they're low-key admitting that going the byler route would be smart, and yet here they are tirelessly defending a show that, according to them, has shit writers and no deeper purpose. All this does is prove that they are hoping this is the case. Because even despite being presented with strong evidence that the show might very well be epic, they would rather reject it altogether.

They would rather have one of their favorite shows suck and defend it religiously, then consider the possibility that it's good and gay...

Don't get me wrong, there are definitely fans on reddit that don't hate byler. I imagine out of the million in that sub, there's a silent majority that would be open to it. Keep in mind, most fans still active at this point in hiatus are hardcore fans, and so they're obviously opinionated, that goes for everyone on most platforms rn. And yet, I know there are very likely casual fans who are popping in there every now and then, the same people in the majority when after s4 dropped, saw that monologue and said What the actual fuck was that?

There’s a reason no other couple on the show has needed to hear the words I love you to believe it. Well, besides Steve and Nancy…

Because SHOW, DON'T TELL. That's why!

So, what do I mean when I say that Show, don't tell is why I no longer have byler doubt?

It's actually pretty ironic, but basically the moment Mike told El he loved her, that's the moment they showed us that he didn't.

I mean, for starters, how does one go about filming a romantic love confession? Because if we're being entirely serious right now, they made just about every artistic and creative choice possible to go against what a romantic love confession should look like to feel satisfying.

I mean, you'd probably want the atmosphere to be intimate, right? Make the audience feel like these two are the only two people in the room (world) for this moment?

Well, that's not the case for Mike and El, nor is it the case for literally any of their scenes in s4 (arguably a lot of their scenes in the series; Will the wise drawing in El's room, I'm looking at you). Almost all of the scenes with them together in s4 had Will in the background, often times in the literal frame between them. That is NOT how you film scenes for a romantic pairing that you want the audience to root for, from beginning to end.

You guys gotta understand, rewatch value is one of the most important aspects to this story for the Duffers. When talking about the prospects of s5, they mentioned that they rewatched all the Lord of the Rings, saying how important it was, despite what some fans might say about the ending being too long, or this or that, bc to them, it was necessary to watch it all, and to rewatch it and rewatch it, in order to appreciate the entire story as a whole, aka the way it was intended.

If you're a serious about Mike and El as a romantic pairing, but because of the way the show has set up their relationship over the seasons, you can't sit down and enjoy more than a quarter of each season bc they're either separated, broken up, or on the rare occasion they are together and happy, they're accompanied by a kicked puppy in every shot, maybe all of that's for a reason.

And that applies to the scene in Surfer Boy more than any other scene in the show, a scene that is supposed to be Mike's monologue to El... You mean a scene that directly parallels Mike's monologue to Will in s2?

When planning the end of s4, do we think the Duffers just decided they wanted this intimate moment between Mike and El to have Will in the frame behind Mike (visually piggybacking off of him, in an episode titled The Piggyback...) in almost every shot, including when he said I love you for the first time, for no reason at all? Or is it possible there was a reason for it? Just like there's been a greater reason for everything?

Like bro, I'm sorry, but even if what's being told in that scene is relevant, all of it still reads as either a lie, a partial lie, a lie of omission or a platonic truth hiding behind romantic phrasing: I don't know how to live without you = platonic (trauma bond), whereas I can't live without you/I don't want to live without you = romantic. The later is out of desire/want, the former is out of fear of the unknown.

The entire scene the lighting is blinking rapidly. And so the vibe they're going for here is uncertainty, which is quite odd for a love confession that's supposed to feel certain? Then we have El seeing all red the entire time. She's literally choking, hearing Mike struggle to muster up anything that could help her pull through, only to overhear Will calling Mike the heart, followed by Mike finally saying I love you????

And I guess according to the Duffers, nothing says true love like a love confession ending abruptly by a two day time jump...

Oh and how about, instead of them taking the time at the end of the season for El and Mike to have a private moment, where they could finally address their love for one another, let’s have them barely on speaking terms, and the one time they do talk, let’s have it be offscreen and mentioned in a private moment between Will and Mike, who in contrast to Mike and El, we're going to prioritize having a scene with them alone together at the end of this season...

In the last minutes, let’s have El look at Mike and Will, only to avoid them with visible annoyance. And THEN let’s show Mike visibly defeated by El's annoyance, instead prioritizing reassuring Will, aka his friend with whom he shares an I didn’t say it/ You didn’t have to bond...

I mean? Are we just not going to talk about it? The fact that I didn't say it/You didn't have to could pass off as a literal synonym for Show, don't tell...

It just kills me that even with all of that, the Duffers were like, You know what? Fuck it. Let's show them all the endgame couples lined up next to each other, with Will and Mike in the middle and El standing on her own in front of them. If by now they still refuse to consider it, after everything, this ending probably wont convince them anyways, but it makes for great rewatch value...

Seriously, if you're subscribing fully to the belief that what is being told is the whole truth and nothing but the truth (so help you god), then you're having to ignore all of that. And I can't ignore all of that, I just can't. Which makes it impossible for me to experience doubt anymore.

#byler #stranger things #byler doubt #not really #quite the opposite #but i'll tag in case #show don't tell allows you to acknowledge what is being shown AND told bc the truth of what's being told is hiding in the details #that's not the case for people only wanting to believe what's being told bc they're having to completely ignore the details to believe it #like i know for milkvans... byler scenes do NOT work in their favor #whereas for bylers... pretty much all milkvan scenes do work in our favor #and so genuinely i just can't experience doubt anymore #arguing with antis is fun to me #looking at reddit posts is peak entertainment #ppl praying to the gods that ST sucks bc they would rather have that be the case than it be an intricate story with deeper meaning #bc then that would mean all the queer-coding that's been hiding in the details all along was intentional...#there's nothing I can do for ya'll except sit here and watch you unpack that #reddit is going to be quite the spectacle over the next couple years #once byler happens there's probably going to be instant denial #then mourning #then acceptance #or whatever the 4(?) stages of grief are #then they'll eventually get to a point where they will allow themselves to look at the evidence instead of avoiding it out of fear #and that's when it's finally going to hit them #oh my god #it's me #i'm part of the reason they had to water it down #bc even upon being presented with evidence #they rejected it #and now they gotta give credit to tumblr bylers who discovered most of the evidence they've been shitting on for the last few years #honestly i'm looking forward to it

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doriana-gray-games · 2 months

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It's pretty stupid of H to invite Sherlock with a bad reputation to their ball...

What will people think, hmm? 🧐

I meaaan

People with bad reputations went to balls, exhibit A: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Byron

#+ I mean #the letter asked for em #what they gonna do #say no?#Perish the thought #+ the ruby is real expensive...#And its not like any ball was ever ruined by having more interesting people in them #quite the opposite #I think it adds to the notoriety of the ball #+ other stuff but u will see #...

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benoits-neckerchieves · 11 months

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00q vibes

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an-albino-pinetree · 4 months

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Look away children!

🚨MINORS DO NOT INTERACT

Warnings: suggestive , possessive behaviour, possessive language, dominant text, heads up! Don’t interact if reading that sort of thing makes you uncomfortable :] Carnival!Jax being Carnival!Jax

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Getting a lil possessive there,,

#my stuff #cw suggestive #cw nsft #cw possessiveness #carnival au #carnival!jax #tadc #the amazing digital circus #tadc jax #jax #he has pants on** in this photo I drew them better and cropped it differently to make that obvious #he chased ya down and pinned ya #and you’re not getting the straight up murder speech you expected #quite the opposite #someone mop this boy /j

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une-femme-de-lettres · 1 year

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This is a classic by now

The way he says 'show my face?', with the accent, haunts me to this day I swear...

#simon ghost riley #simon riley #quite the opposite #cod mwii #ghost call of duty #ghost audio

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melody-han-wayne · 3 months

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If anything is going to break this family apart it is the matter of papa's will

#batsis oc #batsis rp #batsis oc rp #batfam rp #batfam oc #not because everyone wants to inherit something #quite the opposite #none of us want anything from papa #damian wayne #bruce wayne #jason todd #dick grayson #Tim drake #cassandra cain

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billys99 · 4 months

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Ghost w/o his mask if you haven’t read the comics already.. he wasn’t lying when he said he wasn’t ugly🤭

#ghost cod #simon ghost riley #simon riley #cod comic #cod mw2 #quite the opposite

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bornofhumanhate · 5 months

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[Tw: Yandere, unhealthy relationship]

You don’t understand how much I want him to chaise me. Hunt me down. It’s hopeless, because I know he is going to catch me eventually. The fact he hasn’t already, only means he is going easy on me. He likes to play like that. I can’t even imagine what he’ll do when he does catch me.

#comship #villain f/o #yandere f/o #yandere #tw yandere #so the new jjk episode was quite something #it did not make me hate mahito #quite the opposite #I’ve never wanted him more #not exactly a imagine your f/o #but feel free to reblog if it fits your yandere f/o

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diviner-alva · 2 years

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She is learning and Kotallo is her test subject

#doubt he's complaining #quite the opposite #ugh damn those two #if they're at this stage in this game i imagine the next one #im going to faint on the spot #aloy #kotallo #kotaloy #aloy x kotallo #hfw #hfw spoilers #horizon forbidden west

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lycheefruiit · 9 months

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OKAY NO- SO you're telling me my melatonin, white noises, tea, etc doesn't work to get me to sleep BUT YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT DOES WORK?

ANY FUCKING STREAM WITH ETOILES BEING ETOILES- I DONT KNOW WHY? EVERYTIME IVE PUT ON A STREAM AND HE APPEARS MY BRAIN JUST SHUTS DOWN AND GOES INTO PEACE MODE? THERES JUST SOMETHING RELAXING ABOUT HIM TALKING ABOUT FIGHTING I GUESS...?

#qsmp #in no way am i saying hes boring-#QUITE THE OPPOSITE #im not very expressive but qsmp fucking got me #I GET HEART PAINS WHEN WATCHING FOOLISH STREAMS BECAUSE THEY MAKE ME SO HAPPY-

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statementlou · 2 years

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the thing about people becoming fans/ larries on like tiktok or twitter is not that there’s anything wrong with that or that it’s less cool or something, it’s that there are all these people that believe Louis and Harry are together based on a bunch of made up proofs and bizarre reaches, and when they start to see those being debunked or realize they don’t really make sense they begin to think that the reasons other people believe Harry and Louis are together must be fake also, which is extremely irritating and frustrating for people who believe that based on having looked into things for themselves and followed them over longer periods of time and watched things play out in ways that bear out their beliefs. I just think spreading made up proofs to convince people you’re right makes things worse around here

#in this essay I will...#this is not an indirect of anything in particular I now realize it sounds like it's in reaction to smth interesting: no #quite the opposite #this sentence fragment brought to you by today be extremely boring and me being like #we need some kind of hot take or something #but I don't have any of those so here's a random thought I've been having for a while #that some tags on the numerology post I reblogged yesterday made me think about #I very much enjoy when they send us signals and by god do they #but it is not enough on it's own as many antis have pointed out endlessly for years #blah blah blah

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thatgirl4815 · 2 years

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KP & VP Parallels║

& Perpendiculars ⟂

I finally decided to make a meta about the parallels in the relationships between KP and VP. If there’s anything I’ve left out or that anyone would like to add, please jump in! I get in the weeds a little here (big shocker there), but this is my attempt to address some similarities and differences in these relationships. (I’m not addressing KimChay much here because it feels on a whole different planet to these other mafia dynamics.)

First Kisses

I can already visualize the bewildered looks. How, how, can these kisses compare? I’m going to break this down in as many ways as I can. I really wish I could make a Venn diagram on here, but alas, I will just have to make a list.

1) Kinn and Vegas - Anyone can see that Vegas and Kinn are not in the same position here for a lot of reasons. Vegas is a captor and a torturer. Though he has a tragic cause for his unhinged-ness, he’s still that: unhinged. Despite this, there are some interesting similarities between Kinn and Vegas. For one, both characters initiate their kisses. For another--and I really like this about them--both kisses are not sexually motivated. I can’t be the only one who thought we’d be getting very passionate hate-sex between KP before the show came out. But in all three relationships, the first kisses have been tender. Notice how I said kisses and not other things, because at least for one of these relationships, the initial interaction was the complete opposite of tender.

2) Porsche and Pete - There are some pretty major differences between Porsche and Pete’s situations here, but on a more basic level, I think they overlap. Porsche accepts Kinn's kiss, but he’s drunk enough that he doesn’t remember it the next morning. Pete is sober, but he’s badly wounded; for a while there, it even looks like he’s on death’s door. Both Porsche and Pete are (primarily) motivated to accept these kisses by forces outside of their own control. When Kinn kisses him, Porsche is living in a blissful, drunken haze. When Vegas kisses Pete, he’s too sickly, shocked, and confused to resist. **I also want to note that while he doesn’t push Vegas away, he doesn’t kiss back. He only lays there, shocked by the sudden tenderness (not unlike many of us, I imagine).

I don’t want to argue that there are no feelings behind these kisses, because for Porsche at least, it’s pretty clear that he feels a romantic pull to Kinn. But there is a level of susceptibility at play that’s impossible to overlook.

Sexual Advances

I have to hesitate on this one a bit, because torture and SA/dub-con are two very sensitive topics that I don’t want to compare; however, I do want to discuss how both KP and VP handle the sexual aspects of their respective relationships (w/as much of VP as we’ve seen so far). I’m sure there will be much to elaborate on in the future as VP becomes more fleshed out. I will go ahead and offer a ⚠️ TW ⚠️ here since I will mention some specifics about their situations.

~ Ep4 & Ep10 ~

I want to briefly point out that both Kinn and Vegas have made sexual advances on someone who was either unable or unwilling to consent. The VP storyline seems to take this a few steps further, as we see Vegas brutally torture Pete not once, but several times between Ep10 and 11. And on the topic of Vegas, no one has really mentioned it (at least, no one I’ve seen), but to me there’s quite a difference between inflicting physical pain on someone (standard torture) and giving them unwanted sexual touches. Vegas does both at the beginning of Ep11. No one can argue that the VP storyline is not incredibly toxic in general, but even in comparison to the KP storyline, it stands out as being particularly immoral.

For the record, this is not me putting on a “moral police” helmet. I’m not condemning the show for this at all; rather, I’m condemning Vegas for it. It’s like what happened in Ep4 between Kinn and Porsche: apologies can be made, forgiveness can be given, but that doesn’t erase the fact that it happened. And in a mafia show, where we’re meant to feel conflicted about themes of morality, it fits even if it’s uncomfortable. In fact, that’s what makes it work. If we were supposed to feel comfortable during VegasPete’s torture scene, then I think I’d have a problem. But we know it’s wrong because we’re left feeling as caged and oppressed as Pete is.

When it comes to KP’s Ep4 scene, I think it’s easy to get wrapped up in its beautiful aesthetics. But I appreciate how the show flips the script in Ep5. We see Porsche in a state of distress over it, not unlike Pete with Vegas. Again, not trying to compare these two situations, but I think the show wants us to consider how both Pete and Porsche deal with the fallout of these experiences. Like I mentioned with Pete’s torture, if the show didn’t address their reactions to trauma, it would feel not only irresponsible, but dishonest. I’ll finish this section by posting a link to this post by @respectthepetty comparing some specific aspects of the Ep4 KP scene and VP in Ep11.

That got pretty dark, so I think I’d better move onto a more enticing topic...

Chemistry

Ah, yes. Chemistry. Do I need to explain this one? The GIFs speak for themselves:

(Bold of you to assume that I would choose any other GIF besides this bread product placement. Bread = chemistry, I don’t make the rules.)

(No, I will never stop posting and reblogging GIFs of the Ep12 preview because I have, in fact, built a home inside of this exact moment and I will never ever leave.)

Freedom

Kinn and Porsche found home in each other. We know that already. What’s interesting is the emotional similarity between KP and VP, because Porsche offers Kinn the same basic thing that Pete offers Vegas: freedom. For Kinn, it’s freedom from his role and responsibilities--it’s freedom to live life the way he wants. For Vegas, it’s freedom from his father’s disappointment--the freedom of abandoning his father’s influence and refusing to feel the pain of his disapproval. They’re not so different in the greater scheme.

Here’s my question:

Will Ep12 be for VegasPete what Ep6 was for KinnPorsche?

I really hope so, because Ep6 was really something special.

I’d say that’s all for me, but I’m sure I’ll think of something else to drone on about soon enough. For more KP meta, look here. :)

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sonego · 2 months

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i'm not replying to this. i blocked this person. but. i need people to understand that this is so so weird. i was venting about my experience with abuse and it's unsurprisingly not a light and fun topic and i get questioned about it? like what do you get from sending this? jesus

#yes of fucking course i know what gaslighting means you dick lol it's soooo weird to question me about my own trauma!!!!!#idk what's up with the weird anons i've been getting on this blog lately but they're not making this tumblr thing fun #quite the opposite #i might have to go back to talking about personal stuff on main only lol #(also considering remaking this blog bc i feel Weird)#anyway like please don't take time out of your day to do this shit 😭 if you really don't like the way i talk about my life then just #idk unfollow me block me ignore me move on !

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sunshinechay · 11 months

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If we keep with the Pride and Prejudice parallels, this episode really cemented for that Put is the closest thing we’re going to get to Mr Wickham. I’m not here to say he’s as awful as Wickham or an irredeemable a-hole or anything like that. Ultimately, Put is a much more sympathetic character…at least so far and I’m hoping it stays that way as I really don’t think the show needs that kind of angsts and drama when it has enough already.

What I mean by this is that, in the original Pride and Prejudice, Darcy and Wickham served partly as parallels and partly as foils. They are both men with similar backgrounds that come from respectable families (Wickham’s family wasn’t gentry but it is still made obvious that Mr Wickham senior was a good man who worked well and honourably, much like Mr Darcy senior). However, they went on wildly different paths due to their very different personalities.

Darcy is awkward and quiet but underneath that is a man who treats his people well, is honourable about all things and above all, learns from what Lizzie has to tell him. While Wickham is charming and friendly, he is ultimately a man who is completely out for himself with very little regard for anyone who might be hurt or suffer in the pursuit of him getting what he wants.

Most importantly, both feed into the narrative that being prejudice for or against someone can be very bad. Again, Wickham is presented as charming and friendly, someone Lizzie gets on well with almost immediately, while Darcy is almost the exact opposite. He and Lizze butt heads almost immediately due to their differences in lived experience and world view. Wickham’s charm hide his insidious nature, while Darcy’s awkwardness hinders his ability to relate to other people and often renders him as that guy at a party that others tolerate because he is rich and they don’t want to be on the outs with the rich guy.

How does all this connect to Step by Step…well, Jeng and Put basically are these two archetypes. Jeng is that awkward guy that people tolerate because he’s rich (the son of the company president, the one you don’t want to piss off if you want to have success) who is ultimately a good person, who wants to continue learning how to be a better person while Put is the charming and friendly guy that everyone loves but isn’t all that he appears to be.

To reiterate, I’m not saying Put is a bad person, or a bad character. He is a much better person than Wickham, that much has already been shown. He genuinely cares about Pat, but ultimately he is not going to win the battle for Pat’s heart, because while he loves Pat and wants to be with him, he doesn’t want to be with Pat at the same time. He wants Pat, but he wants the idealized version of Pat that he spend the years since their breakup pining over. But that isn’t the Pat that exists today. I find it very interesting that much of flashbacks we’ve seen of their relationship, have been on Put’s end. They’ve been obviously rose tinted from the beginning and present a version of Put to the audience that looks like he is just a guy who loves Pat and wants to get back with him and who is sorry for what he has done in the past to cause their break up (you know, the part where he ghosted Pat).

One only needs to look at his initial interacts with Pat after Pat comes back to Thailand and they meet again. He is so focused on Pat and their past that he can’t seem to see that he is making Pat uncomfortable. Or at least, if he does notice, he doesn’t care. He shows up at Pat’s apartment, possibly drunk and proceeds to ask questions that are definitely not his business (asking who Pat got a ride home with and seems upset that Pat would accept a ride from another man). He ignores Pat’s feelings at almost every possible turn until Pat has to almost yell at him to stop because it’s making him uncomfortable and he’s trying to do his job…and then once again asks him on a date.

This episode just kind of made it all worse. Even if we didn’t have the scene with Jeng to parallel, his reaction to Pat making him dinner is lacklustre to say the least. He almost completely ignores Pat for most of the evening, too concerned with his job (I’m not saying his being concerned about his job is a bad thing, it’s not). I get the feeling that his being so concerned with his job was a major issue in their relationship in past. One that Pat never had the confidence to bring up, and probably still doesn’t. Pat seems like he has just accepted that this comes with a relationship with Put. He is always going to have to put his job before Pat.

The longer time goes on, the less likeable he becomes. He clearly cares for Pat and isn’t a bad person, but it’s becoming more and more obvious that he also clearly hasn’t thought about all of the ways their relationship likely wasn’t working before. Pat’s first impression of him before ended up not working out for him. His first impression this time seems to be working out even worse. Has Put changed? Yes. Has he changed for the better? I’m not so sure about that.

This is all made even more interesting when I think about it in the context of the broader message the show is trying to make about the BL industry as a whole. So often, actors have to act a certain way in public. They have to be a nice, more charismatic, open and personable version of themselves. They have to hide their flaws and only showcase the good things about them. Any time Put is shown to be around people who are not in his private life, Put acts exactly like that. He is more friendly, more open, more charming, more everything. In private, it is not like he isn’t still those things, but he has also been shown to be selfish, manipulative, smug and even uncaring (or at the very least, unobservate about the feelings of others, especially Pat). None of these traits make him a bad person, not even all of them together. But they do make for a person who is very different from the way he acts on a stage, so to speak. It also speaks to his emotionally immaturity. Self admittedly Put broke up with Pat because he needed to come to terms with a lot of things about who he was as it related to job and how some part of him are incompatible with his chosen profession. The part I don’t think he spent nearly as much on, is the emotional maturity required order to have the kind of relationship that Pat wanted to have with him.

One of this shows central thesis’s seems to be (to me at least) that the way a person presents themselves in public is not the full story, especially for a BL actor (I mean, most of them are straight guys who are being paid to pretend to be with their screen partner, both on and off screen in some cases). In Pride and Prejudice, besides Darcy, Wickham is the most obvious example of this. His first impression is fantastic and his initial relationship with Lizzie one of ease and that of two people of a similar mind getting to know each other, even if Lizzie never truly considers him a suitor. As the novel goes on, this impression gets worse and worse until it is ruined beyond repair, when Wickham convinces Lydia to run away with him. The same looks like it’s happening with Put. While his initial impression to the audience isn’t a great one, through the tiny POVs we get from him, we see that he is not a bad person. He is sad and heart broken and utterly aware that he has no one but himself to blame for feeling that way. He is overall, a sympathetic character that the audience can root for, as any good second lead love interest should be. As time as gone on, we are seeing more and more of the unflattering character traits that he has. We are seeing more and more the reasons why him and Pat wouldn’t have worked in the long run, even if they hadn’t broken up before.

In fairness to Put though, the show clearly doesn’t want anyone to be overly invested in his relationship with Pat, since it tells us from the get go (the pilot trailer) that this show is, at it’s core, the love story of Pat and Jeng. One can only hope they don’t have Put completely crash and burn and become utterly irredeemable like Wickham is by the end of Pride and Prejudice. If they did that, I definitely feel like it would be a disservice to both the character and the message the show is trying to send.

#step by step #step by step the series #put sbs #put step by step #pat sbs #pat step by step #putpat #i want to reintegrate again that i don’t hate put’s character #quite the opposite #the character himself is interest #especially as it relates to the message the show is trying to send about the bl industry #it’s just his relationship with pat #it’s not a good one #plus the panda parallels are getting to me #put is wickham #or at least the closest we’ll get to a version of him #i can’t get it out of my head #this post isn’t meant to attack him or anyone who likes him #just to be clear #this is just something that i noticed #and i can’t unnotice it #this is a long post #and i’m not sure if really makes sense #this post is once again brought to you by the version of me that exists at 3am #what do you guys think?#cap watches step by step #cap speaks

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