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gffa · 2 years
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"Our inability to speak the same language does not equal an incapability to communicate.  Emotion is our shared tongue." I CAN’T STOP THINKING ABOUT a scenario where there’s no option for language but the Jedi need to communicate an idea, and it doesn’t seem to be a common ability to project direct pictures or thoughts into non-Force sensitive minds, mostly the Jedi’s psychic abilities are about sensing and projecting emotions, so how would they use those to communicate?  What would it look like trying to convey to someone that they needed to leave, when the Jedi have to be so careful about not abusing their abilities? IDK I JUST WANT MORE WEIRD PSYCHIC ABILITIES WORLDBUILDING OKAY
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jewishcissiekj · 9 days
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do you guys know when Asajj's dress does this. yea
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Star Wars - Jedi: Mace Windu | Star Wars: Republic #53 | Star Wars: Republic #60
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arirter · 5 months
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God the Jedi are just so good I'm completely normal about them
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hurricanek8art · 8 months
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NEW JOHN JACKSON MILLER STAR WARS BOOK WOOOOOOOOOOO!
I ADORE like most of the SW stuff he's done and he hasn't written a full-length SW book since A New Dawn back in 2014, I am SO EXCITED. And in-depth dives into the Jedi Council's characters before TPM? HECK YEAH!
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MORE DEPA BILLABA AND YADDLE. I AM HAPPY. 😁😁😁😁😁😁
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thisiseditsandstuff · 2 years
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Star Wars EU / Legends timeline - post A New Hope
BBY = Before the battle of Yavin 4 ABY = After the battle of Yavin 4 Text in ( brackets ) indicates the relevant book
REBELLION ERA
0 ABY- Star Wars: A new hope / Battle of Yavin 4, destruction of the death star
3 ABY - Star Wars: The empire strikes back / echo basis destroyed, Han Solo is captured by Boba Fett
4 ABY - Star Wars: Return of the Jedi / death of Jabba the Hutt, destruction of the second death star, death of emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader, the New Republic is established
7.5 ABY - Begin and end of the Bacta Wars ( X-Wing: The Bacta War )
8 ABY - Wedding of Leia Organa and Han Solo ( The Courtship of Princess Leia )
9 ABY - Birth of Jaina and Jacen Solo, start and end of the Thrawn campaign, death of grand admiral Thrawn ( The Thrawn trilogy )
10 ABY - Emperor Palpatine is reborn as a clone, Luke Skywalker falls to the dark side but is eventually rescued by his twin sister, birth of Anakin Solo ( Dark Empire I & II )
11 ABY - Luke sets up his Jedi academy on Yavin 4, Leia becomes chief of state of the new republic, Luke’s student Kyp Durron is possessed by the Sith spirit of Exar Kun and destroys the entire Carida system ( Jedi Academy trilogy )
14 ABY - Disciples of Ragnos crisis takes place ( Jedi Knights: Jedi Academy )
16 ABY - The Black Fleet crisis happens ( Black fleet crisis trilogy )
17 ABY - The Corellian crisis happens, Han’s cousin Thrackan Sal-Solo threatens the new republic with the use of Centerpoint station ( Corellia trilogy )
19 ABY - Caamas Document crisis eventually leads to the end of the galactiy civil war between the New Republic and the Imperial Remnant, discovery of the Empire of the Hand, ( Hand of Thrawn Duology ) wedding of Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade ( Union )
23 ABY - The Second Imperium raids the academy on Yavin 4 in the Second Imperium crisis ( Young Jedi Knights: Jedi under siege )
NEW JEDI ORDER ERA
25 ABY - Begin of the Yuuzhan Vong war ( New Jedi Order: Vector Prime )
26 ABY - Birth of Ben Skywalker, destruction of the academy on Yavin 4 ( New Jedi Order: Edge Of Victory II: Rebirth )
27 ABY - Mission to Myrkr, death of Anakin Solo, Jacen Solo becomes a prisoner of war, Coruscant falls to the Yuuzhan Vong in the battle of Coruscant ( New Jedi Order: Star by Star )
28 ABY - The new republic is restructured into the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances ( New Jedi Order: Destiny’s way )
29 ABY - End of the Yuuzhan Vong war ( New Jedi Order: The unifiying force )
30 ABY - Jacen Solo begins his five year journey, the Jedi officially reclaim the old academy on Ossus
35 ABY - Begin of the Dark Nest crisis ( Dark Nest I: The Joiner King )
36 ABY - Birth of Allana Djo Solo ( Dark Nest II: The Unseen Queen ) , Luke Skywalker becomes grandmaster of the Jedi Order ( Dark Nest III: The Swarm War )
LEGACY ERA
40 ABY - Begin of the Second Galactic Civil war ( Legacy of the Force: Betrayal ), Jacen Solo falls to the dark side, becomes Lumiya’s sith apprentice and chief of state of the galactic alliance, death of Mara Jade, Jacen accepts the name Darth Caedus, Luke Skywalker kills Lumiya ( Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice )
41 ABY - Jaina Solo kills Darth Caedus, end of the Second Galactic Civil war ( Legacy of the Force: Invincible )
43 ABY - Luke Skywalker is exiled, the Jedi are plagued by a mysterious force psychosis, the dark side entity Abeloth wreaks havoc on the galaxy, the Lost Tribe of the Sith is rediscovered ( Fate of the Jedi: Outcast )
44 ABY - The Jedi stage a coup against chief of state Natasi Daala, the Sith seize the Jedi temple on Coruscant, Abeloth is ( temporarily ) destroyed, the Sith are defeated, wedding of Jaina Solo and Jagged Fel ( Fate of the Jedi: Apocalypse )
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vergencescatter · 6 months
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One of those pivotal moments in history. Certainly it is one of the most iconic events in the High Republic era.
In the moment, as the Final Protector fell, reading how it happened (both in the novel and comics) felt to me as though the currents produced from the crash had enough force to shift the future path of the entire galaxy. The symbolism alone was astonishing.
[The Battle of Jedha and the Balance of the Force / Battle for the Force series, issues 5-6]
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You know, I'm getting the impression from tumblr the people in charge of The High Republic have A LOT more respect for the Jedi than Disney as a whole and Felony.
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coreene · 1 year
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I have been writing a timeline of all star wars media. Old republic and Infinite Empire timelines together with High Republic and the movies and everything in between (books, comics, games).
I'm just really pissed the Dawn of The Jedi series was cancelled with only 15 issues. I loooved that series. It was so different and was looking at such a distant pass with the Rakatan Empire. I wish someone at disney looked into it and decided to give it another shot.
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chipthekeeper · 7 months
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lately i have been a bit miffed by the lack of awareness when it comes to queer characters, and more specifically sapphic characters, in the Star Wars canon. so, in my capacity as the patron saint of lesbian visibility, i've decided to quit whining about it and be the one to spread some knowledge
without further ado.....a very long and obnoxious lesson
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now let me tell you about them. in detail. through very specific categories
you don't have anything else to do, right?
CATEGORY ONE: GAY. ON. SCREEN.
they're gay. on screen.
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CATEGORY TWO: THE A WORD
Doctor Aphra and her web of lesbianity
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CATEGORY THREE: HANDGAYDENS
Padme Amidala and her gay handmaidens
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CATEGORY FOUR: THE HIGHLY GAY REPUBLIC
all the many, many queers of the golden age of the jedi
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CATEGORY FIVE: VIDEO GAYMES
queers from the Jedi games and related media
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CATEGORY SIX: GAY FROM A CERTAIN POINT OF VIEW
characters created for or made queer in the From a Certain Point of View books
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CATEGORY SEVEN: COMICALLY QUEER
wlws from comics not involved with Aphra
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CATEGORY EIGHT: BOOKED AND GAY
characters who are gay in books, even if nowhere else
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whew. still here?
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thank you for scrolling all the way through this. if you are interested in talking about any of these people or want to know how to learn more about them on your own, my inbox is always open!!
and seriously folks, if you’re interested in any of them i implore you: read their stories, write fic, make art!!! the more we show that these characters are appreciated and talked about, the more likely we are to get more like them, and hopefully more that are even better and more visible rep
that’s all from me. have a gay day
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archeo-starwars · 5 months
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You wouldn't happen to have an extensive layout dissection of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant? Or even a list of all notable and obscure sections of the Jedi Temple? OR or even labelled areas that are public and reserved for only temple residents. Both from canon and legends, please and thank you!!!
The best I managed to find comes from Star Wars Complete Locations - you may check out the whole archived version here. The “zoom in” option is pretty good for reading details. Below the pages (I suppose the best is to open them in new tab for better reading):
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As for the list of locations, I recommend wookiepedia's list. Plenty of data, both for Legends and New Canon.
Additional sources worth to check out:
Jedi Temple Locations & Jedi Temple History - both published as official material on star wars.com in regard to prequels and New Canon sources. Pictures and references to various places inside Temple.
Star Wars.com's The Clone Wars episode guide + videoclips from the series, like
A) Jedi Archives Tour (the entrance to one of the most restricted areas of the temple: The Holocron Vault).
B) Layout of Jedi Temple Library (source)
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C) Jedi Temple funeral room + environment illustration by Tara Rueping (source)
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Old Data Bank for Jedi Temple
HoloNews mentioning "a mob of 20 university students attempted to infiltrate the Jedi Temple" and "managing to get as far as the Second Atrium Lobby"
Star Wars Battlefront (2) game wiki provides some map and location description
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and if you have time (and patience) you can watch gameplay from 501st Legion's mission in Jedi Temple for reference, like this one
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The wookiepedia's articles should give enough good idea of the rooms, their location and functions, but I'm adding a few source pages:
STAR WARS: FACT FILES #36 provides a lot informations what and where was inside the Temple and some general data about visitors, security, Grand Balcony, Grand Corridor & Towers. Not all is super specific, but worth checking out for sure.
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The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia mentions this:
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and for Jedi Temple entry:
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As for the named locations that are public or reserved for only temple residents, there is definitely a division like that, however I'm not sure if this issue was very well explained. The source gives us some ideas, like for example, Jedi Archives have data accessible only for Jedi with rank of Master or higher (thus most likely separated areas to study). At the same time, Fact Files #25 says that Jedi Archives offers an "excellent resources to researchers, including star-map hologram consoles", but also an access to entire scientific and historical knowledge of the Republic
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so non-Jedi were allowed to use Jedi Library/Archives for their own research and work-related needs. We also must remember that the Jedi Order had various scientific branches, including archaeology, exploring unknown regions, and medicine, so logically thinking Jedi worked with other, non-Jedi specialists of many fields.
We also know from various sources, that politicians and important guests were invited for various occasions. We could see in Republic comics series that Bail Organa, Mon Mothma and senator Ask Aak were allowed to listen to Jedi reporting before High Council about his last battle
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or attending Jedi Funeral like Duchess Satine and Padme Amidala did for the (fake) Obi-Wan's one or just visiting as a friend/comrade-in-arm
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I would need to make more research about this issue as there is plenty tie-in material to Jedi Temple on Coruscant that would take a lot time to study, but at this moment, I think the best is assume how far a non-Jedi may walk into Temple will depend greatly who is that person and what is nature of their business with Jedi.
At the same time, Purge: Seconds to Die has this line "Clone Troopers? This deep in the Temple? Not permitted."
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The Jedi was in Archives herself, so it is worth to take into account that clones could have more limited access to Temple than the average guest before war did. At the same time, clone troopers could make a report before Yoda and Mace Windu/High Council, as was presented by Star Wars Tales (Honor Bound):
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so it is not like they were outright forbidden to enter the temple either.
Hope it will help!
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gffa · 3 months
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Sometimes I save panels just because I want to Will Smith Point at them for how the High Republic Jedi, 450 years before the prequels Jedi, are allowed to be "arrogant" and still having a lot to learn, but obviously and unassailably being well-intentioned and good-hearted people. The Jedi shouldn't have to be perfect angels for us to have sympathy for them, just as Vix Fonnick here isn't a perfect angel and we never would think, oh, well, someone should murder her and every person in her family and it would be her own fault because she's less than perfectly polite. This isn't the first time a High Republic Jedi has been less than stellar--sometimes they are so annoying and they often do get really kind of full of themselves and their place in the galaxy--and yet over and over they're allowed the space to still be admirable, inspiring characters, because heroic characters can still have flaws and not have that make them total garbage. Anyway, my point is: the High Republic Jedi are pretty much exactly the same, but like IMAGINE if a prequels Jedi said any of the above stuff, they'd be raked over the coals, while the High Republic Jedi are treated as characters who are allowed some breathing room. LET 👏 THE 👏 JEDI 👏 BE 👏 FLAWED 👏 WITHOUT 👏 THAT 👏 MEANING 👏 THEY'RE 👏 BAD
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jewishcissiekj · 3 months
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finallyyyyyy got to the high republic phase ii comics so let's do this (timeline order, not how the comics were released)
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love the Kyber arch it looks like a candy that looks tasty but is actually disgusting
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Vix:)
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Vix and Barnabas were such a cool master & padawan duo I wish we had more of them
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I've actually been looking forward to reading The Blade for so long and finally got there woooh
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Barash and Porter the siblings ever actually. they deserve the world.
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I have so many tiny Barash and Porter screenshots they're tiny
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Horatio? epic Thrawn (2017) and Eli Vanto reference
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yeah more minuscule Barash and Porter
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They're so scrunkles. 4-issue comic series but I care about them more than I do Khaleen Hentz with like 10s of issues
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the scrimblos
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Barash Silvain I am deeply in love with you.
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Saw a woman so hot I wanted to kill myself. Also I think she's also in Phase 3 so that's a win for old women lovers
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Barash again!!!!! also Porter is there i guess
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that last sentence applies here
Anyway. there's more for The Blade and for THR Adventures but I've used up my 30 images with all those tiny Barash and Porters so this is a part 1
Star Wars: The High Republic Adventures - Quest of the Jedi #1 | Star Wars: The High Republic - The Blade #1-4
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intermundia · 2 months
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Hey Will!
You seem to be very well-versed in the Star Wars books, and I was wondering if you could recommend essential reading as regards Obi-Wan and Anakin’s relationship (or character studies of them in general)? We all know about the ROTS novelization, but I was wondering what else you would recommend?
Any other prequel era book recs would be welcomed as well!
Apologies if you’ve already posted about this!
Obi-Wan and/or Anakin:
Legacy of the Jedi 📖🔰📙
Jedi Apprentice series 📖🔰📙
The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi 📖🔰📙
Padawan 📖🔰📗💙
Star Wars: Republic: The Stark Hyperspace War 💥📙
Master & Apprentice 📖📗
Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan: The Aurorient Express 💥📙
Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan: Last Stand on Ord Mantell 💥📙
Cloak of Deception 📖📙
Star Wars: Obi-Wan 💥📗
Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace novelization 📖📕
Rogue Planet 📖📙💙
Jedi Quest series 📖🔰📙
Star Wars: Obi-Wan and Anakin 💥📗💙
The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader 📖🔰📙
Age of Republic - Obi-Wan Kenobi 1 💥📗
The Approaching Storm 📖📙
Star Wars (2020) #25: "the Lesson (Obi-Wan & Anakin)*"💥📗
Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones novelization 📖📕
Star Wars: Republic: The Battle of Jabiim 💥📙💙
Brotherhood 📖📗
Age of Republic - Anakin Skywalker 1 💥📗
Star Wars: The Clone Wars novelization 📖📙
The Clone Wars: Wild Space 📖📙💙
Clone Wars Gambit: Stealth 📖📙
Clone Wars Gambit: Siege 📖📙
Star Wars: Republic: Dreadnaughts of Rendili 💥📙
Secrets of the Jedi 📖🔰📙
Jedi Trial 📖📙
Labyrinth of Evil 📖📙
Dark Disciple 📖📗
Star Wars: Obsession💥📙💙
Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith novelization 📖📕💙
Star Wars: Darth Vader (2017) 💥📗💙
Kenobi 📖📙
Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader 📖📙
Lords of the Sith 📖📗
Thrawn: Alliances 📖📗
Star Wars: A New Hope novelization 📖📕
Star Wars (2015) 💥📗
Star Wars: Darth Vader (2015) 💥📗💙
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back novelization 📖📕
Star Wars (2020) 💥📗
Star Wars: Darth Vader (2020) 💥📗
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi novelization 📖📕
📖 = book 💥 = comic 🔰 = YA 📙 = legends 📕 = quasi-canon (novelizations only canon when they line up with the films) 📗 = canon 💙 = favorite or essential imho
this list is not at all comprehensive, but merely the ones that i have found to be good sources for both/either characters as i've explored the lore over time!! they are not all of equal credibility, with legends and YA novels being less vivid in the mind than the canon ones. i'm listing so many because i like so many, but this is hopefully not intimidating as much as it is a full buffet for you to choose from!!!
also: 💙 Darth Plagueis 💙 it's not about the Team, but it is a phenomenal worldbuilding book for the prequels in general
<!--also also: the tv shows and movies are the most important sources for the characters, more important than the written word: the prequel films and the original trilogy, the clone wars movie, the kenobi show, the 2008 clone wars tv show, some rebels, (and then the legends 2003 clone wars tv show) are best sources for them. it’s a lot to watch but it's the most accurate representation of who they are!--->
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thedarlingdearestdead · 7 months
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Distraction:
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Summary: Confined to a room to catch up on paperwork, Anakin's ADHD brain won't let him function. He ends up just trying to distract you.
Warnings: None. Slightly suggestive? Mostly fluff.
Word count: 1,485
Anakin’s heart fell when he walked into the room. He had been sent to the offices over his holo, summoned by his Master. He had hoped it would be training, or a new mission, or maybe even a social call! 
The offices were not his favourite place in the temple, so he didn’t go there often. Today they were occupied by a few different Jedi, all working away. It was a mind-numbingly boring place. 
And alas, there Obi Wan was, leaning against his desk with an incredibly exasperated, disappointed look on his face. His legs were crossed in front of him and he stood with his usual air of authority and piety. The space was littered in papers. 
Anakin swallowed and filled with dread as his Master raised an eyebrow at him. None of those folders had been so much as opened. None of the books read, or forms filled out. The pile was almost comically big.
In Anakin’s defence, he had been busy. But he also remembered his promise to Obi Wan upon taking the role of General in this war. That he would do it properly. 
“So your holo is working then?” Obi Wan said, unamused. Obi-Wan crossed his arms and fixed Anakin with a stern gaze. "Anakin, do you have any idea how important these reports are? The Council relies on timely and accurate information to make strategic decisions."
Anakin scratched the back of his head sheepishly. "Well, Master, you see... I've been a bit busy with the whole 'saving the galaxy' thing. You know how it is."
Obi-Wan sighed, his exasperation deepening. "Saving the galaxy is indeed important, Anakin, but that doesn't mean you can neglect your responsibilities as a General. This paperwork is part of your duty."
He’s heard it so many times before “I know, Obi Wan.” 
"As much as I appreciate your combat skills, you can't solve everything with a lightsaber. The Republic also needs proper administration."
“I know, Obi Wan.”
“You understand?”
“Yes Master.” Replied Anakin, head tilted down slightly, feeling reprimanded and surly. 
“Good. Then you won’t mind that I’ve taken you off the Bandomeer run.”
“Wha-what?! You can’t do that!”
“Oh yes I can. You need to maintain all aspects of your responsibilities, otherwise there’s no point to any of it.”
Anakin gaped, feeling utterly betrayed. He had no words as he looked at his Master’s resolute face.
“I’ll be back in a few days, by then I hope you will have caught up.” Obi Wan did not enjoy the dismayed look on his Padawan’s face - ok maybe a little. But really Anakin had to learn this lesson. Lives can be saved by having these sorts of communications and records completed. It was of the utmost importance he got on top of things. 
He went over to his still seething Padawan and gestured for him to move behind the desk, to get to work. 
Anakin hadn’t noticed before but on the table next to his, you were filling out your own paperwork. You had been uncharacteristically quiet during his exchange with his Master, strangely focused, almost interested, in your papers. 
He turned back to Obi Wan, “Do I have to start now?”
“Yes Anakin, sit down next to Y/N and maybe she can show you how a proper Jedi attends his duties.” His Master looked almost smug and Anakin noticed Y/N bite her lip to hide a smile. 
Anakin felt thoroughly put out as Obi Wan left. Suddenly overwhelmed in the face of his work, and desperately annoyed he wasn’t to be going on his mission. He hated sitting still, he hated writing, he hated the uncomfortable chairs, the smell of old papers and stale caf. 
He leaned back in his seat and let out a groan which made you bristle. He noticed. He ran his hand through his hair. And sighed again loudly to see if you’d say something. You didn’t. 
He supposed he should get a move on. He stretched out his long arms,  not an easy thing in such a cramped space, he noted. He was about to grab the top piece of paper when he realised he didn’t have a pen. So naturally he started to look for one - and he did so in the most annoying way possible. He opened every single draw in his desk unit, finding nothing. He moved all the stacks of paper from one side of the desk to the other, and then reversed the entire thing. 
First, he was stuck doing paperwork instead of going on a mission, and now he couldn't even find a pen to start the tedious task.
He looked helplessly around the room and finally to his right where you were sitting. Your hand was out, eyes still glued to your papers, holding a black pen. 
“Thanks” He said, putting on his most charming smile. But you don’t reply, your hand just fall deftly back down to your work. 
Anakin couldn't help but feel a little put-out by your lack of response. He was used to getting attention and he didn’t want to do his work. And there was something different about you right now. You were really focused, and he found that strangely attractive.
He cleared his throat and leaned over towards you, trying to peek at your work. "What are you working on?"
You looked up at him, surprised by the sudden intrusion. "Just some mission reports," you replied curtly.
“Same.” He said, gesturing to his pile. The look you send him is utterly unimpressed. 
He leaned back in his chair and tried to focus on his work. He couldn’t though. He started tapping the end of his new pen on his work. Trying to get his brain to think, to process the information. His leg was bounding up and down. All in all he was an image of energy and impatience and it make your skin crawl with annoyance. 
“Can you stop that?”
Anakin looked at you innocently, his blue eyes twinkling with mischief. "Stop what?" he asked, even though he knew exactly what you were referring to.
Your irritation was growing by the second, and you shot him a pointed glare. "The tapping and the bouncing, Anakin. It's distracting."
He chuckled, clearly unfazed by your annoyance. "Oh, come on, Y/N, it’s part of the process. Besides, I thought Jedi were supposed to be masters of concentration. It shouldn’t stop you from completing your work, surely?”
He was goading you, definitely trying to draw you in and cure his boredom.
You rolled your eyes, determined to stay focused on your task. “You better get started Anakin, you don’t want your master to have to extend your break from active service.”
“Hey! Woah! That’s a bit uncalled for, don’t you think?”
“Do you think he wouldn’t?”
Anakin stilled. He really wouldn’t put it past his Master to do that. After several minutes of futile attempts at focusing, he let out a deep sigh. "I can't do this," he muttered under his breath. He couldn't shake the feeling of restlessness, like he was trapped in this small room with no escape.
You looked up at him, raising an eyebrow. "Can't do what?"
"This," he gestured to the pile of paperwork. "I can't focus. I just keep getting distracted."
You let out a small chuckle, but it was void of amusement. "Maybe you should try meditating on it.”
Anakin sighed dramatically, his frustration evident. "Meditating won't help, Y/N. I've tried. I need something... more stimulating."
Your eyes met his, and for a moment, there was a charged silence between you. Anakin's gaze held a hint of mischief, and you couldn't help but feel a tiny bit sorry for him. Despite your annoyance with his antics, he did seem to be suffering somewhat, even if it was his fault.
You tried to maintain your composure, but your heart was racing, and you found it increasingly difficult to focus on your work. "Anakin, we have to finish this paperwork."
Anakin's lips curled into a smirk as he continued to inch closer. "Who says we can't multitask, Y/N?"
Before you could respond, he gently brushed his lips against yours, a soft, lingering kiss that left you breathless. It was a brief moment of stolen passion in the midst of the tedious paperwork, a secret indulgence that neither of you could resist.
When you finally pulled away, your cheeks were flushed, and you couldn't help but smile. "Anakin, we can't do this here."
He grinned, his blue eyes sparkling with mischief. “Why not?”
“Because you haven’t earnt it yet.”
He looks at you appalled. “No, no, no, no. We are not playing that game. Don’t do that!”
“I’m not doing anything!… Until… you do… your work…” You drag out the words and grin at him wickedly. 
He collapses into his chair with a overly dramatic sigh, he makes you laugh. 
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david-talks-sw · 1 year
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At some point when talking about the Jedi and the Prequels and Star Wars, I feel like there's distinctions that need to be made.
There's George Lucas' Star Wars.
And then there's Star Wars the transmedia franchise.
They are not one and the same.
They have similar messages. Depending on which continuity you go for, the message is more or less alike (Disney canon's treatment of the Jedi Order is slightly more aligned with GL's vision than the Legends canon was).
But they are not the same.
George Lucas' Star Wars is just the six films and the first six seasons of TCW which serve as an addendum to the six films, and the values and messages that derive from them.
The transmedia franchise has those values, but they've been diluted through comics and novels and games and authors who don't agree with GL's vision and authors who tweaked it a bit and retcons until it's no longer the same thing.
Which takes us to "did the Jedi deserve to fall" and the answers:
"no, but the institution needed to go"
There is NOTHING to indicate that read in George Lucas' Star Wars.
If you go by the movies ONLY, then the Jedi are in the right, and what happens to them is tragic, and I don't just mean Order 66.
The movies' narrative literally frames them - as a people, a religion and an institution - (and Bail Organa) as objectively good and the only ones trying to do what's right.
However, some of the marketing and storylines and comics and books presented in the EU and in new canon do support this POV.
If you count those as "just as valid and canon as the films and shows" then you'll have a very different view of the Jedi Order.
"yes, for what they did to Ahsoka".
Ahsoka is part of TCW.
If your Star Wars is the same as Lucas', then TCW is meant to be an asterisk in the larger story, nothing more than a footnote.
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As such, Ahsoka's part is NOT that big, her being on Mandalore or being expelled from the Jedi Order is NOT a contributing factor for Anakin's turn to the Dark Side.
Ahsoka is NOT a part of the Prequels, which represent KEY moments in Anakin's life and the Republic's downfall.
But for many, Star Wars is the transmedia franchise. And TCW and the Prequel films are one and the same. So Ahsoka's treatment factors into the judgment.
If you add TCW's stories to the mix, welp, the show certainly questions them here and there, showing the war corrupted their values (because it was designed to do so) but in the first six seasons it does so in a fair manner showing both sides of the argument.
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They're framed as caught between a rock and a hard place. They HAVE to do the very thing they didn't wanna do or people get enslaved and get killed.
Under Lucas, TCW does what it was meant to do: it adds footnotes, it shows unfortunate downsides. It's not meant to define what is seen in the films.
Whereas by the time we're in Season 7 and Lucas is no longer involved, we get this:
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"They could do better but choose not to because they're playing politics." That's it.
Which is what I mean when I'm talking about the franchise: it has grown past George Lucas' vision, for better or for worse.
For some, TCW redefines what is seen in the films.
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vergencescatter · 6 months
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I'll be honest, I felt a bit queasy reading this. Maybe it was because I was already a bit sad about Oliviah Zeveron; or maybe it was because I was reminded Kevmo before he was similarly killed - when he was alone in that cave on Dalna after witnessing his Master's (Zallah Macri) death by the Leveler. It's not just the horror of facing that monster, or the way it seems to suck out all of the life of person leaving only a mere husk as remains (that by the softest touch breaks into dust). For Jedi (or any for sensitive) it is the fact that you lose all connection with the Force (whether in actuality or if it just feels as such) prior to being devoured. It must be so completely terrifying and disorienting.
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