#reject conformity

[hayitsrosa]

We all must be cringe. We must hate to conform. This is the Tumblr way.

#reject conformity #embrace cringe #we are one #new to tumblr #ramblings

[twinstxrs]

the gorgug-porter conversation is interesting to me because like. yea for the overwhelming majority of the conversation porter’s being shitty & trying to fit gorgug into a box that gorgug just does not fit into by trying to make gorgug’s relationship with his rage more focused on the aggression aspect of it. but then there’s also this specific thing that brennan brought up again in the ap, which is that gorgug’s relationship with his rage is wholly “this is a tool i use to protect my friends.” which isn’t a bad thing! but that’s his Whole relationship with it, & gorgug seems to place next to no value on his rage in relationship to himself. which is problematic, because it’s first & foremost his rage.

being raised in a household with a sort of toxic positivity largely meant that, whether or not it was his parents’ intention, gorgug internalized the message that more traditionally “negative” emotions such as anger are the wrong response to something. part of the reason he prioritizes his artificing is probably because it’s “fixing” things. in comparison to being a barbarian, which gorgug associates with “breaking” things. good vs. bad behavior, in his eyes.

it’s a totally unacceptable bar to measure a 16 y/o by, but i do think part of porter’s reasoning for not letting gorgug multiclass is him recognizing that gorgug generally does not value anger as a valid emotional response to something, at the very least for himself. & that directly conflicts with what being a barbarian is, because whether you like it or not, that rage is what fuels you. but again, barring a kid from pursuing something they deeply care about in part (not entirely, porter has a lot of more bullshit reasons) because of their fundamental values & world outlook is crazy.

so yes, 98% of porter’s reasoning is pretty shitty, immature, rife with a toxic view that there’s only one proper way to access rage, & generally not a good thing to do as a teacher, but also within that reasoning is the 2% of ‘there is a fundamental part of yourself that you only value if you can use it to take care of other people & you need to accept that as something that can take care of you, too.’ but that’s something to discuss with a therapist or a guidance counselor, not something that should hugely impact gorgug’s academic future.

#gorgug thistlespring #fantasy high #dimension 20 #fhjy #fhjy spoilers #btw these r just my personal opinions u r 100% free to disagree #gorgug & his rage interest me so deeply because of how deeply that rage existing seems to be against gorgug’s own will #like mechanically classes are choices & you can switch stuff around any time. but gorgug as a barbarian always felt like an unwilling choice #like that 14 y/o kid did not want to have rage. & that really interests me. #i’ve seen people before be like ‘what if gorgug dropped barbarian & went full srtificer’ but i feel like that simply can’t happen?? #mechanically yea sure but it always felt like a core part of gorgug that the rage will always be there & it’s a matter of how you channel it #idk. dnd classes narratively being treated as ‘you can not lose this part of you’ even though you technically can #gorgug could be lvl 19 artificer & he’d still have 1 level of barbarian. because that is part of who he is. #btw i don’t think porter truly cares about gorgug valuing his rage only as a way to be a human shield #i think porter just sees that as ‘wrong’ but like. not as in ‘you need to take care of yourself’ & more ‘you aren’t conforming’ #he thinks it’s wrong for the wrong reasons. the nastier ‘this is how you should be’ reasons #ppl being like ‘we r being too hard on porter. it’s an 150% courseload gorgug will be overwhelmed’ i think r missing the point bc like. #that is 100% a valid reason to not approve gorgug for multiclassing! but that’s also 100% not the reason porter rejected him. #that whole interaction was basically porter shoving his percieved version of conformity down gorgug’s throat. was v neurodivergent kid coded #no hate to anyone saying that last point btw these r all just opinions #thinking about last ep wilma & digby being like ‘you’re a great barbarian. you’re so great at it. but look at what you made!!!’ like. #they would never mean it like that. but when you only understand half of your son he is going to prioritize the half you do.

[cringengl]

I think Will should use a gun in season 5, but only to show character development.

Since his initial instinct when first saw the demogorgan in s1 was to use a gun, now that everyone is going to be fighting Vecna with weapons, I think that he'll pick up a gun again as others such as Nancy and Hopper will have one and he'll feel like he has to use it in order to save his loved ones. It'll be similar to Jonathan in s1 who clearly has bad memories of using a gun, but tries it anyway as he cares more about saving Will (although I think that Will will be a better shot just so he does use a gun in s5).

However, the point that has been made many times about how learning to shoot is linked to trauma and that Will doesn't have to be made more masculine in order to be a 'stronger' and him liking shooting is kind of ooc anyway.

As guns are linked to Will trying to be a 'real man' and covering up his queer identity by doing something overtly masculine, I think that whilst Will will initially use guns, he won't find them very useful, as Vecna seeks to expose the status quo and destroy it ("conformity, that's what's killing the kids"- or however that line goes) so Will fighting Vecna with something traditionally masculine that he doesn't find strength and power in- which is why Nancy's guns and El's powers have worked for them, they find power in them- won't succeed.

Will will have to find his own way to defeat Vecna and it will likely parallel him truly accepting his queer identity (which honestly seems to be some kind of powers, whether they're light, creation, or an extension of his link to the UD).

#my take on 'will with a gun' #it's linked to the reason i think they gave el her powers back- so that she had to learn to be herself and accept herself for beingdifferent #will rejecting a gun would be a great way of showing how he is rejecting typically masculine roles and not conforming to society #and it also shows that the same things can mean something different for everyone #whilst nancy using guns shows that you can be feminine and badass #will with a gun (or rejecting it) shows how you dont have to follow the path set for you and that you can find power in other things #stranger things #will byers #byler #< target audience #will has powers

[homochadensistm]

in the post you made with all the screenshots of jordanians and palestinians calling bisan out for using the war in gaza to Get Rich Quick, one of the translations said something about "zionizing their rulers??" i have no idea what zionizing means in this context. r they talking about how ppl like bisan make it virtually impossible to achieve peace with palestine, leading to the normalization between israel and other neighboring states?? or are they saying that bisan lies about arab rulers being zionist in order to try and get more radical and extremist leaders to take their place??? am confused ty

Youre halfway there lmao. "zionizing" means leading to normalization. Idk how exactly it leads to normalization and/or peace (which is the same thing to them), but youll see the same style of insult in a lot of Arab countries, whereas any bad activity/behavior is "zionization" or will "zionize" the masses. Its just a fun facet of the culturally ingrained Arab antisemitism <3

#same way they use words like 'agent' or 'spy' to describe ppl who doubt their leaders/terrorist senapis and reject social conformism #means 'collaborator with the zionist entity' etc

[dayurno]

Devastating that you had ten peaceful years to get into Jean and Jeremy but you only became interested in them when your headcanons got an expiration date... Like yeah Ill always keep smoker Jeremy in my heart no matter what Big Canon tries to sell me but it is a lowkey hilarious turn of events for you. Here you dropped this *hands you a cardboard L*

BAHAHA (takes the L) thank you............................... to be honest ive always liked jean and i never really cared for jeremy beyond his friendship with kevin and those opinions haven't changed so much as they have evolved. i still don't think much of jeremy beyond that he's funny and a good man, and i'm glad he's a good captain for jean, but there's not much investment here. perhaps the new book might make him more worthwhile to think upon, but truly there's very little about jeremy that makes him interesting or engaging to me beyond the amusement of his dynamics with jean and kevin. i daresay that as a protagonist for tsc he'll be the weaker end

BUT YEAH IT'S TRAGIC. it's all very tragic. i'm not looking forward to ten years of fanwork getting disproved or rendered useless, and to me, that's the most awkward part about the timing of tsc's release. i don't think there's anything anyone could do about this, or if there was any way nora sakavic could've timed it better, but i guess it's just still a little sad to think about. personally i'm not excited for the influx of post-tsc release content that suffocates the fan content made in the past ten years

#everyone can do whatever they want forever of course but you know what i mean? its a little sad #i feel like if we got tsc in 2018 or 2019 it wouldve been. not ideal but not as awkward #i dont know really fandom is not a recent phenomenum but it's still new enough that we've never dealt with things like this #in the publishing industry #if tsc is perfectly in line with all of the fandom's hcs it will feel pointless #if it isn't it'll feel like a study case in disproving the general consensus #i guess my point is just that it's delicate. it's all very delicate when it comes to stories like aftg #and i'm sure nora sakavic is more than aware of this #which again brings me to the point that if the writer has to conform the fandoms hcs to avoid harrassment or mass rejection #and it is in her best interest to do this because writing is after all her breadwinner #then what is the point of the book? and how can it be respected as an original piece of work? #anyway i dont know really. i dont know. hopefully my concerns are unfounded #lost my train of thought theres a cute fuzzy little bee buzzing around me #asks #jeremy #jean #tsc

[spitblaze]

I think one of the least bad (but still annoying) things about domestic terrorists is that I cannot fucking say anything about wanting to make a manifesto without clarifying 'like an ARTIST manifesto' so people don't start thinking I'm gonna be on the news in a week for blowing up a grocery store or something

#spitblaze says things #i WOULD like to redo my artist manifesto. ive come a long way since college #i sorta want to make a transmasc manifesto too #aknowledging the widespread damage of toxic masculinity and patriarchy #while roundly rejecting the use of masculinity and manhood as a cudgel for conformity rather than a medium of self expression #(i do not and have never had any domestic terror plans for any fbi agents reading. probably never will. im a weenie my method of resistance #is mutual aid and volunteering and donating and protesting)

[emblazons]

hey marie <3 I've been experiencing byler doubt as of late for some strange reason?? And you're one of my favorite analysts so what would you say is like ... the moment or thing that made you actually consider Byler would be endgame?

oooh, I'm sorry to hear that! Honestly there are still some days when the weight of discourse in this fandom gives me little flairs of discomfort about the state of their relationship in S5, even though revisiting the show itself almost immediately assuages most of my fears because fuller context for me has always been most comforting? But...hmm.

I think more than anything—and these two points are really what my "favorite byler things" hinge on, more than the moments themselves—I first remember that the entire show can be subjected to the same scrutiny and level of detail as Byler (even independent of it), which helps me remember that seeing and even looking for evidence of the relationship between them isn't just me indulging my desire to ship them—it's digging into something that The Duffers and the 2000-strong ST production team put there.

Things like them reusing the track Girls on Film to parallel an idea between two scenes with Nancy, paralleling moments of depression between El and Max to show us their bond even from a distance and using set design to show a character trait about Jonathan show that the little details I pick up on for byler are intentional the same way the rest of the show is...and I'm not being unduly invested looking for them, the way a lot of byler critics claim when they say byler's are "delusional" and "reading too much into it."

Second, I remember that I am the audience for the show according to the Duffer Brothers—that they've made clear that it's people like me they're catering to, who love movies, filmmaking and indulge their nerdiest interests even when it means being "less adult" than one perhaps should be in the eyes of the people around them—on top of the fact that they have repeatedly said their story is mapped out and intentional, which means what I see on the screen and put together from "studying" it was designed that way, and isn't just a series of random choices or Finn "deciding" to make flirty eyes at Noah (lmfao).

Once I keep those to things at the fore of my mind, it's easier to accept that what I saw on screen even before I deep dived the whole show were 1) designed for me to catch and 2) intentional...which leaves me with the ability to trust that all of these things—

Mike and Will showing repeated and unprompted signs of attraction to each other mutually, while showing signs of deep emotional connection outside of just the simple bounds of friendship

Mike re-prioritizing his relationship with Will, to the point of saying he was over-invested in El, while also asking Will to be closer to him (which he kept up, all the way to the very last shot of the season)

Will's romantic feelings now being blended inherently with the painting, even though the painting could have easily been written as a platonic gesture if the duffers wanted it to be

Mlvn’s communication (verbal and nonverbal) breaking down in S4 without a single bit of promoting from the audience before it dropped, to the point where Will’s feelings are the romantic ones underpinning Mike’s perception of El & El is no longer behaving romantically forward him, even given the “I love you��� that was meant to resolve the tension in their relationship

The fact that I can connect these events to several other moments across all seasons, because the concepts and relational dynamics aren’t new to S4—only the context is

—are good enough reason to believe that the story is headed toward romantic!Byler, while actively moving away from romantic!mlvn.

I think, at the end of the day, the reason why I believe in Byler is because I’m familiar with The Duffers as storytellers, have been invested in their show since S1, and Byler makes sense for the show thematically—it fits into the narrative, doesn’t require any wild jumps to recognize (neither does the end of mlvn, to be honest) and—probably most importantly—the details like color coding, where people are standing in the final shot, and even the insanity of that one way sign into the closet Mike has are just details designed to bring life to the story…not what I’m basing my understanding of the story on itself.

Basically: I believe in byler because that’s where the story is pointing, and I feel I have a solid grasp on the story and characters in several sections of the show, not just the byler one. Revisiting the show over the course of the year has only strengthened my sense of that—and even when I do doubt, it’s the show itself that reminds me why I believed it in the first place, rather than anything that goes on throughout the fandom side of things.

I don't know if that helps you, but it's what keeps my confidence steady throughout the ups and downs of fandom! And also...literally nothing confused me worse than vol ii when it dropped...and now I feel like it presented some of the most important moments for building toward romantic!byler, so. I feel pretty confident in my interpretation of the events of the show now lmao.

thanks for the ask!

and also...outside of all this: the moment that made me catch onto byler as an option fully as an "invested GA" was Will and Mike at the airport, because...that shit was crazy to watch for the first time honestly. My jaw was on the floor like "oh shit, they're really doing this?" and it just. never came back up the rest of the season LOL

#...honestly I cannot remember the last time I truly doubted byler like. #sometimes I try to play out versions of the story that don't include them coming together more readily than mlvn in S5 #and no matter how I try to play it out it never makes sense LOL #also...the themes are really what sells me on them. #everything the duffers talk through with rejecting conformity and normalcy and DND and basing love on friendship? ALL BYLER #once will was gay and in love with mike it was a wrap honestly. but...lol. people love to be loud and bully because they don't like it so #what can you do lol #asks #byler #anti mlvn

[potpiehead]

the dichotomy of masculinity and femininity needs to be abandoned it's so arbitrary

#what is masculine/feminine is entirely predicated on traditional gender roles so inguess not literally arbitrary #gender non conformity is one of the best things in the world but the fact that there even is gender to not conform to and that you have to #describe yourself in terms of it even when you are trying to reject it sucks #more thoughts on this later i think #when u look at it traditional gender roles serve zero actual purpose other than aiding the subjugation of women for the sake of reproduction #so why are we doing this (i know why) #again.more thoughts latr maybe

[cypr1anlatew00d]

I feel like both gender reveals and sex traffiking paranoia (via truecrime) are things that can be directly mapped to increasing as queer/trans visibility increases as well... when parental authority over children's presentation and roles wanes + cis white femininity loses its crown jewel status of desireability and worthiness of protection, crises need to be created to shore up their self-esteem basically; you ARE correct and normal to announce and enforce your will in increasingly ridiculous ways, you ARE so desirable the world warps around you

#obviously also related to how like any individual rejection of gender role is seen as a threat in itself #even/especially within queer/feminist spaces sometimes... #ie the weird panic-mongering about nlog or masc women being inherently toxic vs soft boys and 'men in dresses' also being a danger #anyways lol truck nutz #not to be this is an AtD blog about it but the white slavery reenactment troupe subplot in AtD is also like. about this. #&&! it's also interesting to see cyprian's whole gender/sexuality ambivalence situated at that point #when male homosexuality was shifting from like a fact of certain areas of society TO a threat to family and gender role conformity

[patronsaint-ofthedenial]

Shoutout to everyone who didn't grow out of their not like other girls phase can I get a round of applause for trans men, genderqueer folks and gnc women

#idk who needs to hear this but rejecting femininity isn't misogynist. shaming people for not conforming to it is #i'm not a misogynist for being a trans man and refusing to give in to the societal expectations of being a woman #yknow who are misogynists? people who shame women who like being masculine. that's who #and i don't mean masculine as in women with pixie cuts who wear jeans. i mean actually masculine women

[ecle-c-tic]

Crazy how much i admire people who are doing their own thing and living THEIR lives but I am so afraid to be myself

#i guess im alone already so why do i fear rejection? #shower thoughts with rao #its also not my job to ensure people like ME! #(I'm speaking like irl friends and romance specifically) #you guys get me but i can feel myself conforming bc im desperate for an irl friend #the only one who lose out is me? #i just gained +1 knowledge point

[neverendingford]

I have made my peace with being forgotten

and yet you think of me.

I have made my peace with being unloved

and yet you continue to try.

I have made my peace with this silence

and yet your knuckles rap at my door.

I have made my peace with letting go

but you continue to hold on.

what do you think of me?

what do you love?

who do you speak to?

what are you holding onto?

is it me you perceive?

or a shape of something you thought was real

created from dreams and wishes and the promise of a thousand people before you.

#poetry #color says shit #this just in. staying at my parents house while they're gone is bringing up the same old pain #pushing on the same old healed over scars. #heartbreaking. someone you know doesn't conform to rigid black and white good/evil morality #how to build distance when they keep trying to hold you close #when that closeness brings up every single moment of pain #when they're determined to hate the sin but love the sinner. #when your dad still quotes transphobic rhetoric at you. #when your mom is still convinced your queer identity is created from trauma #when they still genuinely care about you as a person but are still fundamentally arrayed against everything you've built for yourself #when their love is a constant wish for transformation. regression back to a more malleable obedient state. #I hurt so fucking much because the only way to make it stop is for me to be the bad guy #for me to tell them to fuck off #otherwise I constantly fight against their gravity. #constantly fight against the expectation that I become something else. #that I drop this childish delusion and pick up the ways of a grown adult instead #and yet they celebrate me. they celebrate my name change. #the change that rejected both their last names. that transformed the entire thing into something apart from them. #I orphaned myself and they celebrate me for that. I'm going to hit post now because I can't keep typing cause I'm gonna go cry instead #I just. what the fuck do I do with this situation.

[hussyknee]

- Getting Eaten Alive by Tandrelmairon

#sometimes a piece of writing from a fic hits you in the solar plexus #and then half the posts on your dash makes you remember it #again and again #truth and sources before ideology #truth before your political positions #truth is blunt and messy and will not conform to the things you believe #INTERROGATE YOUR SOURCES AND YOUR BIASES FIRST YOU DICKHEADS #so much of Western leftism is just rejecting American govt propaganda and making up or buying into someone else's instead #you have no idea how hostile your Western leftist ideologues are to Eastern and Global South people #who have lived the reality of your shiny ideas #how you drown us out or contort our experiences and needs to fit your own narratives #it's all for the activism club #not for us #social justice #leftism #anti communism #imperialism #white saviourism #activism #superman #lois lane #clois #dcu #fanfiction #knee of huss

[alixismix]

I like how I can't be able to feel the way I do about myself without people from religious backgrounds coming out of the woodworks and essentially telling me my experience is ungodly and even demonic.

#body dysmorphia #gender dysphoria #tomboy #gender non conforming #body image iseues #vent #christian #baptist christian #LGBT #lgbt person #and like- I'm not mad #it just hurts to be rejected by almost everything in your life #and just when you need a little bit of advice or kindness - #it's crushed #it's hard living like Jesus when the people who are supposed to do the same act so coldly #i forgive you tho #I'm just as confused as you are

[shortscircuits]

didnt wanna be rude on that last post i reblogged but imo jughead’s too skinny and pretentious to be butch. like sorry hes masc. he would be self-identifying as a masc lesbian. probably not even as trans because hes skinny enough not to need T or top surgery to make his tits invisible. archie meanwhile is butch and/or a trans guy. probably butch who grows up to be a trans guy. adult jughead would be a gender non-conforming dyke but again not call himself butch.

#u just know he’d be on tiktok like ‘much love to butches im not fat and hairy tho im pretty <3’ #meanwhile archie’s proud of being big and gruff and actively wants to be bigger and gruffer. butch behavior #also sorry to any skinny butches who may read this. ur valid im just so used to skinny lesbians rejecting the butch label #because they want to conform to heteronormative standards

[mourningmogaicrew]

hi strange question but i’ve seen akab (kenochoric) and axeab (xenic) around and was wondering if you could make some kind of agender equivalent? bc fuck the amab/afab binary those labels are kinda cool y’know

No problem anon, it's queued! And honestly yeah I like the idea of messing around with AGAB labels or the concept. I wish there was a term for it overall though. Something like AGABpunk or AGABf*ck or AGAB anarchy or anti-AGAB or AGAB-critical (but that sounds too much like gender critical) or etc.

I think I'll use neoAGABism/neoassignment/neoAGABs to describe the one I'm posting for you. Because as a fellow genderless (kind of) person yes I was born agender, the doctor just decided to force me into a binary category based on what I looked like. It reminds me of FtF/MtM where binary trans people went "screw 'biological' sex, I've always been my true gender". It’s very cool indeed.

#as someone who has been complaining about agab labels for many years #I am so glad that people are now rejecting them especially as cis people adopt them and use them to make transphobic 'assigned sex ratio' #comments and other bioessentialist rhetoric #mourn says stuff #ask #agender #agabpunk #agab non conforming #agabfuck #neoagab #neoassignment #swearing tw