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This is a post I didn't want to have to write. It’s about some disturbing things that have been happening in the Vinland Saga Discord server, Somewhere Not Here. This is the one currently attached to the r/VinlandSaga subreddit. And, unfortunately, this involves the mods and at least one leader of the Project Vinland scanlation team, which scanlates a number of series besides Vinland Saga. I've made the decision that the situation is too dangerous and unfixable for me to stay silent any longer.

(If anyone has more to add to what I say here, I just ask that you please not give any identifying details for regular users unless you've cleared it with those involved. Many active users in the Discord talk about being minors on a regular basis and I don’t want them to be endangered over this.)

The Somewhere Not Here server is supposed to be “all ages”, meaning that no NSFW is supposed to get posted, period. According to direct statements the admins have made, that includes even nudity and suggestive scenes from the manga itself. There are no age roles or locked channels to keep minors and adults apart.

The lines I'm drawing for "NSFW" aren't my own personal interpretation, they're based on the mods' own repeated words and rules they've enforced in the past. At least, for people who aren't mods or friends of the mods.

For some time now, these rules have been enforced very rarely. More than a few of the people posting explicit/NSFW things and escalating NSFW conversations have been mods. After seeing it happen a few times and feeling uncomfortable, I discovered to my horror that adults and minors were interacting in these conversations. I’ve reached out to the mods and admins over and over, showing them exactly what was happening and begging for more caution. They’ve done their best to stonewall. (Also, in the process of all this, I've discovered one of the mods is underage and will get pinged/notified for NSFW you report to the mods on Discord or on r/VinlandSaga. Great planning there!)

A few of the mods made a server-wide announcement back when I first contacted them and cracked down for a while, but now it’s started back up. Despite my repeated attempts to explain to them what this looks like, and why it is bad to be doing this in a forum full of teenagers that they advertise as being minor-friendly.

In that February announcement, they pretended they’d just randomly remembered about the rules they came up with themselves.

That was a lie. The announcement was made about a day after I sent an anonymous Reddit PM to two admins including Rill, detailing every disturbing thing I’d seen from their mods in the past few weeks. I gave them dates, channels and names. The server announcement referenced a few rule violations I'd told them about, but only the ones from regular members. A few members apologized jokingly for NSFW posts that they’d made, and the mods responded like it was in fact the fault of random members, and not the moderators of the server actively making things unsafe. I think that was a calculated and malicious choice.

I knew then that I'd be writing this post eventually. But I needed to be absolutely sure I wouldn't be smearing anyone for a one-time mistake. So I waited. There were a couple of minor incidents with mods "forgetting" the no-NSFW rules after February, but no smoking guns. Then around Halloween three different mods went berserk at the same time, and I've had to reach out on Twitter so many times I've lost count.

I’ve wrestled long and hard with how much detail I should post here. There are many admitted minors in this server, and definitely many more who haven’t mentioned it. I don’t want to repost anything sexual that they’ve posted, and my fear is that if I name someone they like, they could get defensive and wind up staying in a dangerous place longer than they would have otherwise. But so many adults are involved in the lies that I’ll just have to say it.

There are three adult mods I’ve seen breaking the rules against NSFW. Tikki is the one I’ve seen doing it the most. She’s tikki.ki on Discord and TikkiTchikita on Twitter/Reddit. She has a Tumblr too, but I don't remember the username because just seeing it pissed me off enough to block her. I can't prove what's in someone else's mind, but I've seen her talking with minors about NSFW subjects over and over and over again, and based on certain facts I can't share safely, I believe she knows exactly what she's doing. I told Rill and the other admin in my first warning that "someone" would be able to produce screencaps making an airtight case for that.

I think they got my hint, and they know I'm right. That's why they made that server announcement within a day. And that's why "21+" mysteriously popped up in Tikki's Twitter bio just days after I sent this to two people who definitely aren't her:

(LAST-MINUTE EDIT: While making sure I have screencaps of everything, I discovered something I hadn't seen before in which Tikki does this with a minor who states their age in the same conversation. Her only previous defense would have been that she doesn't have eyeballs and her memory resets at the end of every day. This is beyond any conceivable defense and I'm no longer nervous about my choice to name names in this post.)

JarkeyBacon (same username on Twitter, Discord and Reddit) and OddHesitation (oxsystem on Discord) are the other ones who've violated the NSFW rules, before and after my first warning to the admins. They've also made it clear that they're ignoring other people breaking these rules. They do it much less frequently. OddHesitation has done it with an underage person, but unlike Tikki I have no proof he knew that. I believe he and JB just don't care what they're doing.

Most recently, JarkeyBacon pinned a post to the top of the #manga-discussion channel. It was a screencap of (exhales) a Twitter foot fetishist telling Yukimura-sensei they want to suck on his feet. I've reached out four times, three times directly to JarkeyBacon, begging for that to at least be unpinned. No response. I'm getting views on those tweets that only he and I would've reasonably seen. He's tweeting and liking things in between. Meaning he's deliberately ignoring me. The foot harassment post is still pinned. So for a week now, every single minor who went into that channel has gotten an unmissable notification for... you know. That.

Rill/Kiekoes (rillant_pv on Twitter and rillant on Discord) is the admin I've contacted the most about all this. He helps run the scanlation group Project Vinland. I've given him chance after chance to turn this around. I don't think he's interested.

Rill was the one who helped Tikki pretend after that server announcement that she was someone who could be trusted around minors, even though he knew exactly what I reported to him. I told him and the other admin, "I can't sugarcoat how bad this looks," hoping they'd be more likely to remove her if I put it in a non-confrontational way. Instead they ignored the evidence I sent them. I'm certain that my recent tweets to Rill have been shared in the private mod channel, because the views and profile clicks are sky high compared to my usual stats. And I know that he shared and acted on at least one tweet, because someone from the server found the Tweet and contacted me within the day.

This is what he helped her do. After reading my very clear warning about her repeatedly, knowingly, talking about this stuff with minors:

She gets to pretend she wasn't the one at fault. She gets to pretend she's safe. That she's the one who's always cared about these rules the most.

I know posts like this are hard to believe without a ton of screencaps. I wrote a much longer post with some very disturbing details, but after wrestling long and hard, I don’t feel like I can post that part without further endangering innocent people. All I can say is that I’ve had this same fandom identity for 15 years now, and that’s what I’m staking on this public statement. I hope anyone who’s followed me for a while knows that I take this subject very seriously and I would never fabricate anything like this. Not to mention that Project Vinland is scanlating two different series I very much want to keep reading.

There are a few screencaps I will post: after I saw that the the mods were getting careless again despite my private warning, I tweeted this at an admin. (I've left a tiny screenshot in there with no username. (CW FOR FICTIONAL CSA: If you right-click and view the image in a new tab, you can zoom in to see a tiny fraction of what's been getting posted in just one channel lately, with moderators clearly active in the same channel on a regular basis. Tikki is the main one ignoring these posts, which are often still visible on the same page when she responds to something else.)

No response, but the Views are very high compared to my usual tweets.

I haven’t been blocked by anyone I tweeted at, and they made that server announcement about the rules one single day after my Reddit PM. They also haven’t made any public statements about how a lunatic is trying to take the server down with fake accusations. Those facts mean they know they can’t risk actively antagonizing me, because I have the screencaps to prove everything I’m saying. They were hoping I'd go away.

(And, guys, if you're reading: my primary concern here is for the minors in your server. If you try dragging any of them in to defend you, obviously I'll have to post the screencaps after all, and explain exactly what I had to report to the admins in that Reddit PM.)

If you're in the server, you can go check the date on that post in #server-announcements for yourself. It's February 4, 2023, one day after I sent my original PM on Reddit. Here's an Evernote draft of the very last version I checked over before copy-pasting it as a PM, plus a few paragraphs to prove how extremely helpful and polite I was:

Wasn't I nice? Obviously I'm not new to the internet, so I was lying about expecting them to deal with it correctly. That never happens with mod friend groups. But I had to give anyone who actually cared about this a fair chance. Either to get the offending mods out, or to get themselves out. Every current mod's had the chance they deserved to get out of this. None of them are willing to run their server safely. Not one single apology from anyone involved.

Since that first PM, I've also learned that one of the Discord/subreddit mods is in high school. In both places, users are directed to report all NSFW content to the mods. I’ve used that rule on the r/VinlandSaga subreddit to report a couple of ugly rape jokes. I know that minors are bound to see those things on the internet--I certainly did--but I would never forward posts like that to a minor for any reason. I’m disturbed to learn I did exactly that without knowing it. I don’t understand how this decision was ever made. I reached out to Rill, asking him to please tell me there was some kind of setup where the underage mod wouldn’t get pinged/notified over reports that could have NSFW content, and again I was ignored.

So. I've counted 3 adult mods bringing up or highlighting NSFW things in the Discord, all of them on multiple occasions. One underage mod who was bafflingly chosen to handle reports that would inevitably include NSFW material. And I've contacted two admins, one of them repeatedly. I know these messages made contact. Because of the views, and the fact that two of the warnings got them into scramble mode, and because every time I've tweeted at Rill or JarkeyBacon over the past week, I see mods mysteriously popping up in some of the Discord's public channels within a short time. I wonder what made them all come into the server to chat???

Here's yesterday:

That tweet of Yukimura's he links to at 8:26, btw, is dated 8:22 by my time. But JarkeyBacon broke his Discord silence at 8:20, meaning he was on Discord and Twitter simultaneously just forty minutes after I tweeted at him at 7:44.

Go ahead and guess what happened during that gap between 10/31 and 11/4.

JarkeyBacon I literally just wanted you to unpin and delete the toe-sucking tweet in your server full of minors. That's all I wanted. You fucked up once back in January, but I didn't name you in my PM, and I wouldn't have named you here otherwise. I would've assumed that was a one-time mistake. What are you doing, man?

At this time, I no longer believe anyone left could be ignorant of what's going on. If they are, then the other mods have deliberately endangered them by keeping them in the dark. I don't think anyone with power is genuinely interested in fixing the horrifying situation in the Somewhere Not Here server. In February, I threw these people a rope to pull them away from the cliff over which they were dangling. They decided to fling themselves back over, while spraying diarrhea all over a bunch of minors they PERSONALLY asked to come hang out under said cliff.

Did you guys really think I'd stop caring?

#vinland saga #project vinland #witch hat atelier #cesare #akatsuki no yona #did you morons really think you could stonewall me lol #nah let's go i'm naming names #tikki #rill #kiekoes #jarkeybacon #oddhesitation #zashisu

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Chapter 48 - Wedding Nights And Babies. Episode 3.

-----River's house------

Jackall: I guess that goofy look on your face means you definitely are doing it by now… good for you! I hear he's very big, and very capable of driving his stick he smiled cheekily

Evan: I felt myself blush Who told? I grunted as I realized only one could have told stories like that Daniel…

Jackall: Chuckled deeply Who else? He sipped his beer and nodded at me So, you're really deep in love huh?

River: Sighed deeply from somewhere inside his own world

Evan: I'm not sure River wants to hear about this?

Jackall: Oh no… the love part he doesn't care about… it's the sex part that makes him… weird…

River: Grunted I really don't care Jackall

Jackall: See he pointed at River and chuckled so you are in love with Congo, right? And here I mean like really deeply in love, not just high school girl in love…

Evan: I nodded softly Yes Jackall… I am I sipped my coffee and hoped no more questions would follow

Jackall: And he is in love with you just as much?

Evan: I groaned deeply I guess so…

Jackall: So what are you doing here among the roaches?

Lily: Hey man! I'm here too you know… I'm a bit offended I have to say she chuckled softly

Jackall: Laughed loudly If you out of free will can live here… in this mess… and not be bothered by it, it must mean you're just as fucked as the rest of the residents of this household. So yes, you my dear pretty girl, are a roach too.

Evan: I chuckled softly and sipped my coffee, and observed River who seemingly now had gotten lost in a track on the record that had been playing the last 30 minutes

River: Hm… he tilted his head and looked at the record player, contemplating something no… He slowly got up I don't care much for this track. He slowly made his way to the record player and skipped the song, nodding agreeing as the next track started playing: ffffffffff bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbzaaaa` He quickly made his way to Lily, reaching his hand towards her Dance with me, me lady.

Lily: She chuckled softly, grabbed his hand, and together they made it to the middle of the floor. Dancing together, getting lost in the music. I was kinda relieved they knew they were siblings, cause the way they were dancing was borderline incest. Strange for someone like River. The least sexual person I know. But somehow, they made it work. Maybe because it after all wasn't sexual at all.

Evan: I grabbed my phone in front of me and saw it had died, grunting softly

Jackall: What?

Evan: I sighed softly My phone has died… which means Congo probably is worried sick by now. Can I borrow your phone, just to check Facebook?

Jackall: Sure he pushed his phone over the table

Evan: Yes, as I feared Congo had left a worried message on my wall. I rubbed my forehead gently

Jackall: Evan… it's fairly simple. You need space. Time to digest. But you also need him. Them. Go home. Figure it out. You're not gonna figure it out by sitting here starring at River doing whatever it is River does. Us… you don't really need to figure us out. There's not much to figure really. We are both broken in each our way, and so are you. So is everyone. We will be here when you have the energy for us. Go home and figure the other stuff first. Be there for Andy, and let Congo be there for you. And dare to dive some more into it. I'm sure you wont regret. He sounds like a great match for you. So what the hell are you doing here, on this dirty kitchen chair? Go home, Evan!

Evan: Not the greatest peptalk ever, but it woke something in me. I got up from the chair fast, smiled at him, and ran out the door. Quickly got up on my bike, and within 10 minutes I was driving up our mountain, smiling bright as I turned the corner leading straight to our house, seeing it become bigger and bigger as I got closer. My heart was pounding fast. I had to be with him. Right now. The love for him was pounding through my veins, making me chuckle behind my helmet. And then, ice. It came so fast I didn't get to react. I just felt the bike disappear under me, as I was sent gliding over the road. A loud bump was all I heard, as my bike crashed into the garage door, then my eyes were turned towards the dark night sky above me, white gentle snowflakes floating towards my face

Congo: EVAN!!!

Evan: I heard his footsteps pound the ground as he ran towards me and kneeled down next to my face

Congo: Are you okay? his voice was terrified and I heard him sniffle his nose as he slipped a hand under my back head

Evan: I nodded softly as I looked up at him

Congo: Can you move?

Evan: Yeah I nodded again and felt tears in my eyes

Congo: Are you in pain?

Evan: I shook my head lightly and grabbed on to his upper arms as I dragged myself up to sit No… I chuckled nervously and looked around for my helmet that had come off in the fall I landed pretty soft I padded my hand on the snow beneath me

Congo: You gave us quite a scare! You sure you aren't hurt? Are you dizzy?

Evan: No… I'm fine….

Congo: He placed his hands on my cheeks and planted a loving kiss on my forehead I was so worried about you! Where have you been?? I'm so sorry if I pushed you too far. Maybe if we just..

Evan: I sobbed loudly as my nerves from the crash hit me, pressing my face against Congo's chest I'm sorry! I'm so fucking sorry I left you here to worry! I don't know why I left! I can't even remember what we argued about! It was so fucking stupid! I'm just so stressed out! I feel I have no time to catch up with everything! I feel drained and weak. I feel so tired I could sleep for weeks! I'm so happy and thankful for the babies, but I can't even enjoy it! I'm so scared! I want them so much, but at the same time it terrifies me we don't know when they will arrive… I just I coughed as my sobbing got worse

Congo: Shhh shhh he wrapped his arms around me tight Evan… I don't have enough clothes on to sit out here… hold on to me

Evan: I did as he said, and he slowly lifted me up

Andy: Shit is everything alright? We were so fucking worried!

Evan: I turned my head slowly and looked at Andy and Lenny few meters from us

Congo: His voice was warm and soothing Yes… everything is fine, he's just pretty shaken up. The snow thankfully broke the fall. I just want us to get inside before we catch a cold… you should too…

Andy: He nodded agreeing and smiled softly at me I'll watch a movie with dad…

Lenny: I'll just pick up the bike and get it into the garage.

Congo: Thank you Lenny, I would appreciate that. He planted a soft kiss on Andy's lips, then Andy planted one on my cheek. And few minutes later Congo and I were safe and warm, laying in bed, naked, cuddled up with a movie on the big tv. I was safe in his arms, snuggling my head against his chest I have told Andy to stay here, I hate when he's away, even if it's only next door with Daniel. Specially now when he's pregnant, I prefer him to be as close as possible.

Evan: I nodded softly Me too…

Congo: He kissed my forehead softly I understand you need space and time to digest it all. So I have told Andy the next few days, you and I will stay down here, until you feel a bit better, until you feel you can cope better. He is not banned from the room, but I told him to give you space. And Andy himself added that he wants to give us space to get comfortable in this relationship. He wants us to just be Evan and Congo for a few days. If that's alright with you?

Evan: I smiled shyly I would very much like that.

Congo: Me too he smiled warmly and planted a soft kiss on my lips Lenny will stay here with him. And I'm sure we can both figure Daniel will come running at some point. But we will stay here, you and I, as much as possible. It has been almost 3 weeks since the wedding, and neither you or I have had time to catch much break. I could really need some time to catch up as well. I will still go with Andy every time he needs to have check ups, but beside that, as long as the pregnancy is calm and he doesn't feel it much, I will stay here… with you.

Evan: I smiled bright and felt tears in my eyes again

Congo: Is that happy tears? He chuckled softly and planted a gentle kiss on my nose

Evan: I nodded softly

Congo: Good… that's good… that was the reaction I was hoping for. Evan…

Evan: Yeah?

Congo: I love you very much, and I'm very thankful you came home.

Evan: I love you too I leaned upwards and kissed him lovingly

Congo: May I ask where you went?

Evan: To see the roaches.

#unicornmanes #Evan Thompson #Jackall D'Angelo #Jacob D'Angelo #River D'Angelo #Rill #Lily Ophelia Thompson #Congo Shaw #Andycorn #Andy Shaw-Thompson #Leonard Cullman #Lenny

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