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rayfishandchips · 2 months
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Tim's wing cape appreciation post, one of the best-looking robin equipment items in my humble opinion.
It doesn't always look good when stationary, but when it fly it is so alive with motion. Beautiful.
(from the comic robin war)
edit: found some more of them. Look here ↓
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bigchungss · 8 days
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thecruellestmonth · 1 year
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Jason "I'm the only one allowed to torment Bruce" Todd
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shyjusticewarrior · 2 months
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The batboys calling Jason "Jay"
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mattiebluebird · 2 months
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Yk that post that's like ‘signal is the spiritual successor to nightwing’ bc I DO & IVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT NON-STOP.
And the comics pretty much confirm it (To Me) in Grayson #15.
So in this issue each of the Robins, minus Steph (RIP Steph) get paired off with one of the We Are Robin gang and give them their own advice on what it means to be Robin.
Tim—whose main problem with this whole thing is that they don't know these kids, how can they trust them?—gets paired with Andre Cipriani, a mob kid whose dad was murdered by a rival gang when he was eight years old. Tim trains Dre by having him fight blindfolded. He tells Dre that being a Robin is about truth and investigation, which makes sense, right? Tim became a Robin by figuring out Batman and Robin’s secret identity (keep this in mind, all the Robins’ advice links to their origin).
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To be a Robin, you have to understand what you don't know. And then you must seek to know it. You must always ask: how can I see into the dark? Batman once told me, being a Robin can be summarized into one word: investigation.
These two were an interesting choice to pair up. I would've thought they'd put Dre with Jason, given their violent tendencies—Dre is smart, but at this point in the comics doesn't strike me as particularly investigative. Then again, right after this arc he goes undercover in a gang, so maybe he learned something?
Speaking of learning something: at first I thought they should've paired Dre with Steph (#teamcriminaldads lmao), and while that would be an interesting team, Dre did learn from Tim. If Riko were present in this issue, she would've been a good fit for Steph, as she idolizes the Batgirls and Steph was both a Batgirl and a Robin. Plus, Steph and Riko are both brave & have mean streaks, something that Riko has trouble showing because of her shyness. Steph’s advice probably would've been along the lines of “being a Robin is about defiance”.
Besides, if Tim and Dre weren't paired up, we never would've gotten this interaction.
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— You like Liszt.
— What?
— Franz Liszt. The composer. You play the piano. I looked you up. People who play the piano like Liszt.
Points to Tim for the most autistic small talk ever. ‘You like this, which I know because I researched you in a totally non-creepy way.’ Amazing. 10/10.
Dax gets paired with Jason. They're interesting parallels. Dax is the inventor/mechanic of the team, but also sort of the wild card with very strong morals, like Robin!Jason in a way. Like Jason, Dax’s father is (implied to be) a crook, though they took different moral directions because of that—Dax is completely opposed to gun violence.
Anyways, Jason's main reservation is that you can't have Robin without Batman. And I guess he decided to solve this issue by just becoming Batman & making the WAR crew relive his origin story by stealing tires from the mob.
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Y'know, kid, Batman once told me, being a Robin comes down to one word: confidence.
Jason Todd, the Crime Alley street kid who had the balls (and the skills) to steal Batman's tires and get away with it. Sort of. Confidence, indeed.
Damian's problem with the Robins is, of course, that they're weak, and strength (according to him) can't be trained; you either got it or you don't. He gets paired with Izzy, who probably has the toughest home life of the WAR crew. Her brother's in a gang (that he regularly beats her up for not joining), and she's failing all her classes because she's too busy working night shifts at her mom's restaurant to sleep or do homework.
So Damian's advice to her is pretty apt:
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Batman told me that there is one word that captures the essence of being Robin. Suffering.
Damian and Izzy are both outwardly surly, stubborn characters who have had to fight to survive. Notably, Izzy is the first of the crew to almost resort to killing/guns (in WAR #6). She's also probably the best fighter in the WAR crew after Dre and Riko. She does dancing, gymnastics, judo, and kick-boxing.
And, finally, we reach the point of this whole post: Dick & Duke.
Duke deduces Dick's secret identity in like .5 seconds.
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— I've solved a lot of hard in my time. This ain't hard.
— No. No, it wasn't hard. Not for you. Again, Duke Thomas?
Dick: You discovered my secret identity!
Duke: What? Like its hard?
After scoping out their strengths and weaknesses, Dick sends the Robins on individual assignments: Dre and Tim to investigate, Dax and Jason to cause a distraction, Izzy and Damian to apprehend Robo-Batman/Gordon.
Dick brings Duke on to a roof for a stake-out, where they have this exchange.
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— You think only the originals understand how to be Robin?
— Nope.
— Yeah. Me neither.
Then it turns out that Dick actually turned them all in to the cops because he wanted them out of harm's way. He's been watching Duke for a while and he knows he's scared of heights, so he led him onto a roof he knew he couldn't get off of. Just before they part ways, Dick imparts his Crucial Robin Advice:
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Batman once wais to me that being a Robin is about one thing. Family.
(I find this whole thing super ironic considering Dick's whole aside concerning the Robins was the fact that it doesn't matter if people know you're manipulating them as long as it works.)
The point of Robin? Family. Dick and Duke are alike in this way. Dick only became Robin to get justice for his parents’ murder. Duke only joined WAR to find his parents.
Their origins and motivations are similar, and so are the characters themselves. Dick is often called the world's second-greatest detective next to Batman himself. Duke is a child prodigy—one of our first introductions to his character is when he tried to solve the Riddler's riddles in Zero Year. He loves puzzles. He's an amazing detective.
And, of course, one of the things we know and love about Nightwing is his inherent kindness, something that's present throughout Duke’s entire character arc. Even their hero names, Signal and Nightwing, are parallels of each other (light and dark). Batman’s first sidekick and his last. And, like Nightwing, Signal formed his own team (WAR) with no help from the others (except Alfred ig).
Of course, the entire point of Signal’s character is that he's not just a Robin. He's something different. It reminds me of that post that's like—’poor dick grayson, originator of a legacy he never meant to be a legacy, crushed with guilt and jealousy when he looks at all those who came after’. To me at least, it makes sense that Nightwing’s successor would've never been a Robin at all.
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thejasontoddarchives · 7 months
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Jason (about Bruce):
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Robin War #1 (2015)
Bruce:
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Batman #428 (1988)
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Batman #650 (2005)
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Batman and Red Hood (2011-) #20
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Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016-) #25
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Batman (2016-) #136
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Batman (2016-) #137
Babygirl. Sweetheart. Apple of my eye. That is the most irrational, illogical, delusional man you’ll probably ever meet.
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sisaloofafump · 11 months
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we never talk enough about Duke's "what, like it's hard" response to having figured out all the robins & batman & disguised Alfred's identities. he knows all their names, current status, insecurities, and family dynamics, and does nothing about it.
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"I've solved a lot of hard in my time. This ain't hard."
"You don't know me." "Kid, I don't think you know you."
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hopeless--light · 2 months
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I just read Robin War, and it's making me see how underrated Duke and Damians relationship is. To begin with Duke is so underrated but him bugging Damian and then them reluctantly becoming friends/brothers is so freaking cute!!
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My new favorite duo I will consume everything with them now
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dailydccomics · 11 months
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you’re a Robin, he’s a Robin, she’s a Robin, they’re a Robin, I’m a Robin Robin War #1
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qcomicsy · 1 year
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I don't think we talk about Robin War as much as we should, this is insane this kid is insane. HE WAS THE LEADER OF A MOVEMENT.
A BIG EARTH SHAKEN MOVEMENT.
Yeah I get it, The Robin movement had no official leader. But we cannot deny how he was one of the most prevalent voices. How he is so good with his words that he was able to to encourage not only all of them to go home and all of them to go fight.
And fight for their fucking lives, for Gotham's safety.
And you don't understand the Robin, wasn't a team they didn't have leaders, they didn't have training, they did't had someone o be assigned to be in charge, hell half of them shouldn't be older than 25! This is a social movement, made mostly by yound adults and teenagers.
Being able to to influence this amount of people in less than what a month? In matter of minutes is absolutely fucking insane. This isn't easy shit, this isn't lightly shit.
This is fucking revolutionary.
For fuck sake he knew DAMIAN, fuckin Damian for a day and was able to get his point across into that kid's thick skull.
This random kid, with not training in martial art, who saw Damian beat up not only his fellow comrades, but Red Hood and Red Robin themselves, who may or may not be aware of Damian's reputation as a deadly Robin (if that comes to the public and knowing Gotham and Gotham's relationship with vigilantes he might) stood up on his own feet and got his ass beaten by him without even considering back down from it.
Duke Thomas was ready to die that night and this is fucking earthshaking.
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sarcopterygiian · 6 months
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reading robin war for the first time
damian just called jason “the easy-to-kill robin”😭😭😭
he also called tim the easy to forget robin so
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emilyarmadillo · 7 months
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shyjusticewarrior · 2 months
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Damian calling Tim "easy-to-forget Robin" in Robin War
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Jason calling Tim "the boring one" in Task Force Z
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They are the same person in different fonts.
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mattiebluebird · 1 month
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I keep seeing a lot of posts saying that Duke started a gang, but like. No He Didn't. The Robins existed before Duke ever joined them -- and Duke only joined because of Alfred's interference. The We Are Robin comic starts with Duke searching for his parents and stumbling onto a Court of Owls meeting, then the Robins show up and save him at Alfred's behest. Duke didn't start a gang, the gang found & adopted him.
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mistergreatbones · 5 months
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Quite frankly I think Duke should use his powers for evil and get payback on Dick for the shit he put him thru during robin war
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