#ron weasley books vs films

[upsidedownwithsteve]

your Remus one shot melted me 🥹 i cannot wait to read more of your work with him/fckin Sirius/anyone ever.

now that we know you’re into HP pls tell me who are your fav characters vs least fav? any unpopular opinions about the books? Just curious!

xoxo

ahhh this is so lovely, i’m so glad you enjoyed it 🥹

ohhh so I’m very much a ron supporter, romione was my first ship 🥲 I grew up reading the books so I have a soft spot for a lot of the characters. hermione, luna, the weasleys as a whole, dobby, hagrid, mcgonagall.

I don’t think I have many unpopular opinions about the books? definitely about the films, but i’m sure they’re the same as everyone’s 🌚

#ask

[headcanonsandmore]

Hermione Granger (watching the film version of Hermione in the later HP films): Is that supposed to be me?

Ron Weasley: You think YOU'VE got problems...

#romione #romione convo #romione conversation #romione chat #harry potter conversation #harry potter convo #harry potter chat #books vs movies #books vs films #hermione granger books vs films #hermione granger books vs movies #ron weasley deserved better #ron weasley #rupert grint deserved better #rupert grint #ron weasley books vs films #ron weasley books vs movies

[owlsinleatherjackets]

obviously I could blather on for ages about all the things the Harry Potter movies got wrong, but I think there’s one particular scene in Order of the Phoenix that sums up the problem very well. the thing is, though, it’s a good scene. Harry’s finally voicing his anxiety about both his confusing emotions and his possible connection with Voldemort to someone he really looks up to and trusts. and Sirius does everything right: he affirms Harry’s feelings while still reassuring him that no, he’s not a bad person, and drops a very memorable quote for good measure. “what matters is the part we choose to act on.”

in the book, like in the movie, the very first person Harry chooses to confide his fears in is Sirius. unlike in the movie, Sirius’s response is pretty similar to what every other adult has been telling Harry throughout the book about, well, everything: you’ve had a shock, you’re worrying too much, let the adults handle this. small wonder, then, that when Harry overhears more adults that he trusts discussing the possibility that Voldemort is actually possessing him, his immediate reaction is to retreat and shut down. he’s the weapon.

here is where the difference between the books and the films becomes painfully clear. it’s not an adult who sheds light on Harry’s situation and calms his fears, because how could it be? this is all theoretical for them: inexplicable mental connections to dark wizards, the emotional minefields of fifteen year old boys. while the adults hypothesize and plan and do all they can to “protect” the children, the children are already living this war just the same. and so instead of wise reassurances about light and dark, we have this:

“I didn’t want anyone to talk to me,” said Harry, who was feeling more and more nettled. “Well, that was a bit stupid of you,” said Ginny angrily, “seeing as you don’t know anyone but me who’s been possessed by You-Know-Who, and I can tell you how it feels.”

Ginny’s not only providing the slap in the face Harry needs - her response to his fears is immediate, tangible, real. he’s not the only one here with a dark connection to Voldemort. he’s not as alone as he always thinks he is. and he has not been possessed: she’s able to prove that almost at once. Hermione and Ron’s responses are equally to the point, equally reassuring, and equally in character: “one day, you’ll read Hogwarts, A History, and perhaps that will remind you that you can’t Apparate or Disapparate inside Hogwarts.” “you didn’t leave your bed, mate. I saw you thrashing around in your sleep about a minute before we could wake you up.”

taking this scene out of the film removes a crucial development in Ginny and Harry’s relationship - it’s the first time Harry sees her as someone unafraid to confront him at his darkest, and more than that, as the only person who has known that darkness in the way that he does. replacing this scene with a conversation with an adult, though, completely misses the point of the story. Order of the Phoenix, more so than any of the preceding books, is a story where the adults fail the children, over and over again. no matter how wise they are, no matter how much they care, they fail, and that’s important. it’s the children who are living this war, and who will end up fighting some of its most crucial battles. try as they might, the adults simply can’t understand the war from their perspective. the best will support, protect, and guide however they can, and the worst will actively fight against them, but none will fully understand what it’s like to be fifteen years old and confused and angry and all the time facing this terrifying, powerful darkness. that understanding and support can only come from their peers. and it can only be gained, as Harry learns, when they communicate with each other and face the darkness together. the clouds part a bit then, the burden eases somewhat. “you don’t have to do this all by yourself.”

#harry potter #order of the phoenix #harry potter films #harry potter books #hp fandom #books vs movies #dumbledores army #hinny #golden trio #hp5 #harry potter thoughts #harry potter theory #hp characters #ron weasley #hermione granger #ginny weasley

[nefelibata-is-having-fun]

"It's about the most insulting thing he could think of," gasped Ron, coming back up. "Mudblood's a really foul name for someone who is Muggle-born - you know, non-magic parents. There are some wizards - like Malfoy's family - who think they're better than everyone else because they're what people call pure-blood. [...]I mean, the rest of us know it doesn't make any difference at all [...] It's a disgusting thing to call someone, [...] Dirty blood, see. Common blood. It's ridiculous. Most wizards these days are half-blood anyway. If we hadn't married Muggles we'd've died out."

#1 Ron being an interesting character who gives his own opinion on the racist environnment he lives in moment that wasn’t in the films 

#ron weasley #Harry Potter #film vs book

[princesserica84]

Steve Kloves Sucks

I just found this amazingness and it’s so real and hilarious! I can’t stop laughing. He expressed our anger with ‘The screenwriter that shall not be named’ in a song. My fellow Potterheads, please listen to this!

@headcanonsandmore @knightandbooks @allaboutromione @thehufflepuffpixie @hermiones-amortentia @hillnerd @amysthefardareismai

#steve kloves sucks #he fucked up a lot of shit #uhg #he’s stupid #how’d this dude not get fired? #anti steve kloves #steve kloves #hp films #hp books #book vs film #potterheads #harry potter #ron weasley defence squad #ron weasley defense squad #ron weasley #hermione granger

[fivenamereveals]

“We wouldn’t last two days without her!”

That line has always irritated me because Harry and Hermione were lucky they lasted months without him

#ron weasley defense squad #fivename speaks #books vs films #the movies did ron dirty

[drawinggoose]

Some HP ramblings.

Recently I’ve been thinking a lot about my feelings concerning Harry Potter universe - namely books, film adaptations and one of the new additions to the franchise, The Cursed Child. All those thoughts has literally created an abysmal whirlpool of very mixed emotions, so I thought it may be helpful to write it all down. Let’s fasten seatbelts, have some nice, warm cocoa and start.

When I was younger I loved the films. I adored them almost as much as I adored the books. When every new adaptation had it’s premiere I was there, in the middle of the night, away from home and surrounded by countless strangers, but I didn’t mind - even when normally that would be a pure nightmare for me - because I was so hyped for the new ride. The possibility of seeing your beloved characters on the screen was pure bliss. But later something changed. The more I re-read the books and more I re-watched the films, the more disillusioned I was. Nowadays I cannot even bring myself to watch the movies again (while I regularly go back to the novels). 

The most grievious sin for me was changing the personalities of the large part of the cast. I mean... Really large. I think it would be easier to count those who were left mostly intact: Hagrid, Mrs. Weasley, Draco Malfoy maybe the Twins... And a couple of others. The rest was altered, from little changes here and there, to complete annihilation of the original personalities. My great dislike of Filmatrix (Helena Bonham Carter’s take on Bellatrix) is quite obvious for those who follow my posts, but there are others. Poor Ron - what did happen to him? Castrated and robbed of his great lines, and memorable scenes, all in favour of Hermione, originally wonderfully flawed and realistic character, who in the films has become the Wondergirl of the HP cinematic universe. Seriously, it was so bloody obvious, no subtlety at all. Movie!Ginny suffered from similar treatment as her brother, becoming meek and quiet. I’m not even talking about Dumbledore from the 3rd film onwards... And yes, I think that even fan favourite, Alan Rickman wasn’t the same Snape from the books.  I’m sure it is not solely the fault of the actors. In my opinion it was rather a result of several factors: directors’s decisions, Steve Kloves’ writing and actors’s personal interpretations of their characters (*cough*, HBC, *cough*). Of course there were many more problems, like the infamous Burrow fire scene (seriously!?), but I think the characters suffered the most.

Now, where does The Cursed Child fits in? There are several ways it links to the previous topic. Firstly - I think it’s quite curious how plenty of people hate it passionately, while at the same time many, many Potter fans not only are OK with the films, but even view the universe exactly how it was presented on the screen, not how it was described in the books. Potterheads will rant endlessly about CC’s inconsistencies and divergence from canon, but also 80/90% of the fanbase see Bellatrix Lestrange as sexy, corset-clad, childish, rat-nest-haired caricature.

Secondly - I’m quite surprised with myself, that I ended up as a firm spokesman for the CC. Those who follow my blog can confirm that I often defended it against the waves of criticism. Why does it surprise me? Because CC suffers from similar problems as the films do. Ron character seems like a movie-born comic relief, the rumor about Scorpius is simply ridiculous, there is too much messing with the time travel, Cedric is suddenly a Death Eater, Ron and Hermione have seemingly lost Hugo, because he’s nowhere to be seen, there is almost no information about the Big Bad, the Augurey... Yeah, I have some issues with this play. So why do I defend it in the first place? I guess, because it is currently “The Unfavorite” of the HP fandom; I’ve always had a thing for those types. There are also pleasant aspects of this story: Ginny/Harry and Ron/Hermione are as loving and supporting of each other as ever. Scorpius and Albus’ relationship is simply too cute. McGonagall is still badass and I really like the concept of Delphi (yes, I think it IS a nice plot twist). Sure her character was not fleshed enough, and by the end of the play some may view her as a general oh-so-evil villain, but I think there is more to her than that - it can be seen in her scene with “Voldemort”.

Anyway, thank you to all who decided to read this lengthy, badly written rant. I really should start doing something a little more productive.

#Harry Potter #Harry Potter Characters #harry potter books #harry potter films #books vs movies #HP movie problems #Ron Weasley #Hermione Granger #bellatrix lestrange #severus snape #Albus Severus Potter #scorpius malfoy #delphi #delphini #harry potter and the cursed child #cursed child #alan rickman #Helena Bonham Carter #filmatrix #Ginny Weasley #lord voldemort #this is long #spilling my guts #books are always better

[cto10121]

Harry Potter Clown Takes Part 3

Featuring yet even more conservative pearl clutching, problematic whinging about problematic elements, and a wild attack on Harry for *checks notes* not letting a man abandon his wife and unborn child. Really cannot make any of this up. Spoilers, as usual

You mean those same films that turned Ron into dumb comic relief, Hermione into Wonder Woman, Harry actually enjoying his fame, Dumbledore rude and downright violent, toned Snape’s nastiness, eliminated the house elves and Hermione’s activism, made McGonagall lock the Slytherins in the dungeons (against canon!) and dehumanized the Death Eaters by having Bellatrix and Voldemort dissolve into evil flakes? Okay, OP.

It’s a case of Truth in Television, OP. Even in the most violent and radical of real-life revolutions some aspects of society do not change (actually they may even become worse!). In my view, the problem really isn’t with Slytherin House per se, but the fact that it was overrun by Death Eater children (Malfoy and his gang) and wizarding supremacy. Rowling’s conflation of real-life academic social clubs for the elite and HP’s four Houses as a structural basis of the school itself didn’t help matters either.

…The same way the majority people IRL who went to school, had all their formative relationships at school, had role models as teachers, and still don’t become teachers, OP! Wtf?

Honestly, I don’t get this fandom’s whinging over Harry’s Auror career vs. a teaching career at Hogwarts. There is no reason he can’t work as an Auror and then go and teach at Hogwarts or vice versa. Besides, his children would eventually go to Hogwarts, so it would be very awkward to have to teach them during their whole student career. A conflict of interest, to be sure; for Harry’s kids especially it’d be a literal nightmare.

That was the film adaptation, OP, not the books. And not even in the films is Seamus portrayed as a drunk.

Meaningful character names (especially punny ones!) have always been a strength of great writers, OP. Shakespeare borrowed a lot of his names, but the names he came up with are unforgettable and fitting: Beatrice, Benedick, Othello, Desdemona, Iago, Jessica. Dickens was also one for good names: Sydney Carton, Madame Defarge, Lucie Manette. On the contrary, it shows Rowling’s excellence at names and her willingness to think outside the (Anglo-Saxon) box. Most of her names sound like plausible fantasy names without them being too outlandish for modern readers. Dolores Umbridge is definitely not lazy.

Harry is 11-14. A literal child. What action does OP want Harry to take to help Ron or the Weasleys out of their poverty???? Harry shares his food with him on the train in Sorcerer’s/Philosopher’s Stone and buys Ron some Omnioculars for the Quidditch World Cup. And even then Ron says Harry is not allowed to buy him anything for Christmas because of that. Even if Harry did want to help the Weasleys out of their poverty, he knows they would point-blank refuse it or would in some way return the money as a loan. He literally had to threaten to hex Fred and George, the most unscrupulous Weasleys in hustling, to accept his Triwizard earnings as a gift.

And I find it odd that you would defend Lupin planning to abandon his own wife and child to go camping with Harry and co. Harry was too harsh, even violent, but it does fit with his character and his values—he would never countenance a man willingly abandoning his family. Lupin is able to fight against Voldemort just fine without having to abandon Tonks or his kid. He is also canonically grateful to Harry for forcefully coming to his senses.

Ah, the love-potion-as-an-allegory-for-rape thing. How do I hate thee? Let me count the ways.

So a lot of portrayals of love potions stem from Shakespeare’s in A Midsummer Night’s Dream, where the fairies use the juice of a flower to make other people fall in love with the right people—and end up creating more chaos instead. Love potions in fiction tend to externalize the real phenomenon of people falling in and out of love with the “wrong” people—or the “right” people for the “wrong reasons”—and the freewheeling messiness (fluidity?) of human sexuality in general.

With regards to HP, we’re not given much information on love potions and how they operate that differs from the classic love-potions-as-just-being-horny template. We know that the Imperius Curse can be fought off even if the victim has been under it for years (the Crouches) and Harry himself could do it on the spot; can a love potion be fought off or shaken? Ron was becoming even more aggressive under the influence of several love potions, so it may be that most (cheap, regular) love potions grow weaker, not stronger, as time goes by, and lift quickly. According to Fred and George, their love potions work up only to 24 hours, depending on “the weight of a boy in question” and the “attractiveness” of the girl. Sounds like an aphrodisiac to me. It might explain why even Hermione doesn’t consider love potions Dark or dangerous. If not, then what is exactly the difference between the effects of a love potion and normal human relationships?

In any case, Rowling is definitely going for that metaphorical take in Ron’s love-potion infatuation with Romilda Vane, forming a parallel to his infatuation with Lavender. I also suspect that was happening in the case of Merope Gaunt giving Tom Riddle Snr. a love potion. Dumbledore believes she simply stopped giving him the potion, but that is part of his guesswork. If love potions can be resisted, Riddle himself could have snapped out of it and left. It would at least justify Voldemort’s claim “My father left my mother when he found out she was a witch. He didn’t like magic, my father” (How would he know? Did he just assume?) in GoF.

In any case, real-life drugs used for rape don’t work the same way—they knock people out unconscious, period. Even alcohol doesn’t take away a person’s will entirely.

#harry potter #hp #hp meta #cristina metas #and to think i used to think the old fandom was bad #these are much worse #something about the whole love-potion-as-rape-drugs feels off to me #hp clown takes

[come-on-shitty-boys]

Thank you so much for writing such a detailed answer about NLMG🥰 I also really enjoyed the discussions about the novel, trying to understand things like why they never left the school etc. After reading reviews and ishiguro's statements, we came to the conclusion that he wanted to show a phenomenon (a part of human nature), which often happened in history, where people were forced to live in bad systems and just kept living in it. Also if you want to talk about HP, do it. I would love to know☺️

No, nonnie 🤧 thank you for asking! I LOVE talking books and I haven't really been able to since covid kicked me of my college campus.

But, yes! That was the same kind of conclusion we reached in my class! This refusal to leave because you don't know if leaving will put you in a better situation. There's this sense of fear that surrounds the uncertainty of what's outside the life you've been forced to live!

Continued under cut, because this gets L O N G

When nonnie reads the tags so you get to ramble some more 🥺💕

So, here's some things that you may have never known about Harry Potter and how J.K. Rowling showed that she was G A R B A G E even before letting the world know she was a terf :D! Watch me get attacked by the Potterheads oml

First things first, I'm mainly going to focus on some of the over-arching themes, because that's what we covered in class, but there's still plenty to talk about.

Let's start with the Durselys. Now, if you've only seen the movie, this fact gets lost, but in the novel, they are depicted as having blonde hair and blue eyes. Now, this may not seem like much of anything, but there's a really cool parallel between Harry Potter and Charlotte Bronte's Jane Eyre (another very thought provoking novel). Specifically in their openings. The Durselys are pretty much copy and pasted from the Bronte's Reed family. I'm talking looks and personalities. They're violent and always picking on little Jane (small, frail, dark hair, green eyes. Familiar description, yeah?) I'm like 62% sure that Jane gets called dirty because of her looks and how she doesn't fit the Aryan ideals (please note: when I say Aryan I mean the ideals that have come to be associated with Hitler's "master race" rather than the true background of the word). Hmmm it's almost like Harry also doesn't fit in because of something similar. Harry has Lily's eyes and his father's hair, a direct link to his magic background. Bold of you to assume that he didn't stick out like a sore thumb in the Dursley family just because. No. It's so we could have a PHYSICAL difference as to why Harry is looked down upon.

The Smelting stick :) oh you mean something that I did extensive research on? It's a symbol for Dudley's power in the house :) the historical connotations behind walking sticks shows us that they were more widely carried by those who were in high power and authority (think about how royalty wield scepters). As time progressed, they also were made into weapons, some even being equipped to conceal daggers and pistols. Now, Dudley's stick may not have been doubling as a knife, but we can ALL tell that Dudley is the real ruler of the house, even before getting his stick (possible penis imagery which adds another level of masculinity into the conversation. I promise if you ever study lit in an upper level course, everything is a penis). But by giving him the Smelting stick, Rowling is really just giving you affirmation that Dudley is the head of the household as he B E A T S Harry with it. (The same idea of stick = power can be seen with the Malfoy men. Lucius carries a walking stick which is then given to Draco my BABY in half blood prince because HE'S calling the shots, so to speak. Also are going to ignore that a 16 year old CHILD started a W A R? like come on. That's fucked up. I can and will write an essay on why Draco deserves way more sympathy than what he gets and I'm not just saying this because I love him. But back on topic)

Harry living under the stairs? That is literally showing how he is beneath everyone in the Dursley home and how they walk all over him. There's not much else to explore there ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The Goblins at Gringots oho ho 👀 this one left me shook when I found out. They're supposed to be Jewish people. It plays very heavily into the anti-Semitic view that Jews are stingy and greedy. Also?? They work underground?? Which uhhh doesn't sit right with me now that I know what I do, but maybe I'm reading too much into things.

We all know the House Elves are literally S L A V E S employed by everyone's favorite school nonetheless 👀 but here's what really drives me bonkers about that. Rowling insists that they LIKE it. Dobby is the only one who gets out of the system and the others are essentially like "bitch why the FUCK do you wanna be free." But isn't it nice to get a little insight on what she thinks of slavery smh 😔 didn't Kanye say the same thing? About slavery being a choice or that they liked it or something?? Or am I just tripping?

N E WAY. Here's one of my favorite parts. DIALECT. I don't remember if this gets mentioned in the books, but I know it's in the films. So, if we put Ron, Draco, and my queen McGonagall all up next to each other and have them say the same thing, what the difference? Their dialect. They accent they have is directly linked to their social class. Ron has more of a cockney accent, which is used by working-class Londoners. It's essentially the Southern accent of Americans, so it's typically associated with being dumb, so it kinda fits that not only is Ron Weasley poor, he's also not the brightest. Say it with me friends. Classist. Draco has a posh accent, so he's rich and super smart but also kind of a brat, especially early in the series ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ McGonagall is Scottish. That accent is very desirable because it EXUDES class. So, it seems to make sense that one if the older, wiser characters gets to be Scottish.

I wish I could go on and on, but I don't remember everything we talked about?? There was a lot of stuff JUST on Hogwarts itself and the British private school system and the classism you can find rooted there, but I don't really remember it all?? There's things about the roots of last names, specifically Potter vs Malfoy and the whole Anglo-Saxon vs Anglo-Norman roots of their names and how it translates to class and their beliefs. I could go on for YEARS about why I can't stand Albus Dumbledore but this post is already massive 😩 so I really shouldn't.

Nonnie, thank you for letting me ramble on about all of this. I've missed talking about books. It's honestly something that I will always enjoy :') my brain just thrives off of underlying meanings 🤧

Tagging @nekxrizawa because sis wanted to get in on this discussion.

#shitty talks #not haikyuu #harry potter #shitty talks books

[hillnerd]

Why is Drar*y so popular among HP fans but not Hinny? Besides Drar*y, i think second most popular in fandom is Harmion* ship, not Hinny or Romione. So I wonder why canon ship in HP not that popular. As Hinny & Romione shipper, it's really hurt me whenever I read a hurtful comments regarding my ships in facebook, tumblr and ig.

The most popular ships, according to a search through A03, are:

Draco Malfoy/Harry Potter (33271)

Sirius Black/Remus Lupin (14305)

Harry Potter/Severus Snape (11205)

Hermione Granger/Ron Weasley (9216)

James Potter/Lily Evans Potter (7582)

Hermione Granger/Draco Malfoy (7238)

Harry Potter/Ginny Weasley (7074)

Hermione Granger/Severus Snape (3492)

Harry Potter/Tom Riddle (2919)

Remus Lupin/Severus Snape (2675)

Romione is usually a secondary ship though- to Drarry.

Harmione used to be popular- but they faded into relative obscurity compared to Drarry over the last 10 years. 

So time for some SHIPPING HISTORY:

Before the 5th book:

Hinny’s popularity has never been high- back before book 6 Harmione was the popular ship- Ship wars were mostly Harmione vs Romione- with a side of Hinny, and a tiny bit of Lunarry. 

Then the sixth book came out:

The second Hinny became a thing , Harmoanians were suddenly on the attack. Fandom in general had a MELTdown. 

Romance was the most important thing to fandom- there were tons of people shocked by Hinny happening (they shouldn’t have been. It was very obvious.) But with romance being ‘TEH MOST IMPORTANT THING EVAH! SQUEE’ they were really mad that the all important romance wasn’t given a lot of screen time.

They wanted the books to switch genres in order to build up the romance ‘properly,’ basically. Fandom is STILL that way. We indulge in fanfiction where romance can be the center of attention- but the books didn’t do that. How dare they. :P 

Anyways- people have always disliked the Weasleys for some reason (classism), and Ginny got a TON of hatred. 

There are lots of reasons Ginny was hated:

she broke a ton of ships

she is pretty athletic and sassy- many of the readers prefer Hermione because they identify with a nerdy smart unpopular selfrighteous girl over a ‘jock’ character

she’s not the ‘main girl’ of the book- so has had less screen time

by this point Ginny was also barely in the films- Hermione was being powered up and beautiful- while they made Ginny a shell of a human and did little to vamp up Bonnie’s looks

People wrote her off as a fangirl/stalker character

no one was paying attention to Ginny and so saw her character development as ‘sudden’ (it wasn’t.)

Then the movies caught up to the books-

Kloves was a huge Harmione shipper, so that got a TON of attention in the scripts and films. 

Daniel Radcliffe was a Lunarry shipper and put a ton of his acting into that. 

On film Hinny got NOTHING at ALL except like 2 ‘sad looks’ by Ginny? Until book 6- and then they didn’t even interact? It was awful.

So movie-based fans hated Hinny (and movie Hinny DESERVES the hate. It’s AWFUL.)

Romione gets established in both universes (book and movie) very firmly. (Even though it was not handled the best in the films.)

So with Hinny being hated by movie fans, and disliked by many of the book fans- and movies influencing book readers as well- Hinny was firmly established as a disliked ships.

Then there’s the Draco thing:

Meanwhile- Draco has always been popular in fandom- but the girl he was always involved with in the books (Pansy) was not well developed compared to other characters.

Dramione used to be VERY popular. People LOVE the idea of ‘redeeming draco’- but with Romione being written into the plot so firmly, Dramione lost a ton of shippers over the years because it was messy and upset all the character interactions a lot- and so many of them turned to Drarry. Keeping Romione is easier than Dramione.

Drarry became more and more popular- Hinny was hated, and getting rid of it in lieu of another ship was easy- it didn’t upset Harry’s relationship with the Weasleys, Got in that hothot m/m goodness fandom (again mostly women) crave, has the ‘forbidden love’ people crave, and then they also get that ‘smarmy bastard sex machine in leather pants paired with an uptight ‘good guy’’

That’s the same reason Wolfstar is so popular. It has that trope- troubled ‘bad boy’ and ‘uptight haunted good guy’ that people cream themselves over. It can be a super cute ship- and there are great fics /art out there for it, but the main appeal is the tropes, imo. 

At the end of the day, certain tropes have more appeal to people. It has little to do with the books much of the time- and given everything- Hinny and Romione are simply ‘boring’ to many people, unsexy to others, and ‘poorly done’ to a lot of people.

I disagree- I think they’re awesome! :) But feh- the biggest bummer is not getting as much fan content with my ships, and having to come across SO much hate for Ron and Ginny everywhere. 

 I got the ships I wanted in the books :). I have a lot of cool artists and writers to follow, and enjoy writing and drawing them myself- and you can’t help what’s popular at large. 

#fandom history #hinny #romione #drarry #dramione #Anonymous

[empress-of-snark]

Cursed Child Review!

(this will contain only the vaguest spoilers--you have been warned)

(also tumblr is being dumb and refusing to let me upload this with pictures, so expect a second post later with pictures)

THE THEATRE

So first of all, the Lyric Theatre is gorgeous. It was renovated specifically for this show, so the design is full of all kinds of Harry Potter references. Inside, the carpet is red with a Hogwarts ‘H’ pattern, and the ceiling is blue with gold stars.

Also, directly across from the entrance, on the way to the gift shop, there’s a small, circular room with patronuses painted all over the walls! They got all the major characters (minus Albus and Scorpius, but we don’t know their patronuses, do we?), as well as play quotes from each:

Speaking of the gift shop, I absolutely bought a Ravenclaw scarf and iron-on patch for my denim jacket. I wanted so badly to buy a replica wand as well (if I remember correctly, they had Harry, Ron, Hermione, Albus, Scorpius, and Voldemort), but they were pretty expensive and I couldn’t decide on a character anyway.

Also, funny thing, we got two playbills—one for Part One, and one for Part Two—and… they’re exactly alike. There’s nothing at all different except for a very slight alteration in cover art and the fact that they’re labeled Part One and Part Two. The insides are identical, lol. Weird.

THE PLOT

There’s really nothing to be said about the plot that hasn’t already been said. It’s not great. It’s not terrible either, honestly, but it’s not great. In terms of alternate HP content, I’d put it below Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, but above Crimes of Grindelwald.

Part One is definitely the stronger half, plot-wise. Part Two is where everything goes a little off the rails and you start thinking “wait a second, did J.K. Rowling actually come up with this or is this just straight-up fanfiction that someone wrote in 2009?” Again, no spoilers, but… the Act III, Scene XXI plot twist is contrived and kind of ridiculous and seeing it played out on stage does nothing to improve my opinion on it.

THE CHARACTERS

Albus and Scorpius were phenomenal! To be honest, Albus has never really interested me as a character very much, he’s always just come across as a sullen teenager, but Nicholas Podany made me like him more than I did in my initial readings of the script.

Scorpius, though. SCORPIUS. I knew he was an adorable geek when I read the script, but seeing it on stage is just so much better. He’s the absolute cutest character and I adored him. Also, major props to Bubba Weiler’s physicality because it was awesome. His lounging awkwardly on the stairs and giving finger-guns to Rose in Act IV was priceless. Absolute cinnamon roll.

Speaking of Rose, I feel like I should talk about the whole shipping war thing of Rose/Scorpius vs. Albus/Scorpius, but honestly I don’t wanna drag this down into fandom wank, so maybe I’ll make a separate post later. Suffice it to say, I totally 100% understand why people ship Albus and Scorpius, but I also think we should be allowed to have other interpretations and sometimes people on the internet don’t understand what true friendship is supposed to be like despite constantly calling for more platonic friendships in the media.

Anyway.

Harry and Hermione were awesome. I know people complained about Harry’s characterization, but honestly, I think it’s similar to what happened with Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi. People don’t like watching their childhood heroes grow into flawed adults who make mistakes, and I understand. It’s hard to see Harry being such a strict father and saying or doing things that he regrets, but that’s what characters are supposed to be like. Harry is not perfect and he’s always had a bit of a temper. For the first eleven years of his life, he didn’t have a good father figure to guide him so as an adult, it makes sense that he would fumble a bit in fatherhood because he has no one to really base himself on, and he literally says this in Act IV.

Hermione didn’t have as much of a character arc, but she was excellent. Her characterization was on-point and I loved her. There was a moment I especially loved where she hugs Rose around the middle of Act III. There’s no dialogue and it’s only a brief moment, but it was beautiful. With context, it’ll make more sense why, but again, no spoilers.

Finally, my boy Ron Weasley, was… comic relief. Why am I not surprised. Functionally, he did almost nothing of any importance for the plot—they could’ve taken him out completely and it wouldn’t have made much of a difference. While he did have some good, genuinely funny moments (they included his line from the book when, in answer to Albus saying that everyone is staring at them at King’s Cross, he said “It’s me. I’m extremely famous.”) but he also has some really dumb, out-of-character moments as well (at one point, in response to a threat, he… pulled out his wand… backwards… and had to fix it… get it? Cause he’s stupid!).

That’s not to say the actor did a bad job. He did the best he could with the terrible characterization. But the bright side is, we got several really good Ron/Hermione scenes that were stupidly adorable and made my heart happy. My two favorites were, of course, the staircase scene in Act II and the scene in Hermione’s office in Act III.

Draco was great, I loved his relationship with Scorpius and how it grew, and I loved his reluctant allegiance with the Golden Trio.

Ginny was pretty good, though I wish they had given her a bit more to do at times.

I also wish Rose had gotten to be more a part of the action, but I get why, for a lot of the play, she couldn’t be involved in the plot. For spoiler-y reasons.

THE SPECIAL EFFECTS

This is the real reason people see this play, and it is worth it! It’s worth sitting through the weirder parts of the plot. Some of the illusions I could figure out (a lot of them were either clever use of the fly system or two actors hiding in the same robe), but some I’m pretty sure were just genuine magic because I don’t know how they pulled them off.

Characters Polyjuice and Transfigure themselves into other characters, wands light up and even shoot fire (at one point, a lot of wands were shooting fire simultaneously during a multi-character duel and I don’t understand how the set didn’t catch on fire), a bookcase comes alive and eats three people and spits them back out again, and the DEMENTORS.

There were DEMENTORS and they were SPOOKY and AWESOME and I wish so badly that we had been in balcony seats because at one point, a dementor comes out over the audience and we were so far back that we could barely see it.

Also I don’t think it’s a huge spoiler to say that the show involves use of a Time Turner, and every time it was used, they did something really cool with the lights that gave the whole stage a ripple effect and I have no idea what it was they did, but it looked SO COOL.

IN SUMMARY

The building was gorgeous, the plot was just okay (better in the first half), the characters varied but were mostly good (all the actors were amazing), and the special effects are absolutely the best part of the show, hands down.

People have said that this show shouldn’t ever be professionally recorded because watching a DVD will never compare to seeing it live. I agree that the live experience is undoubtedly better, that’s the case with every play. Live is always better. But it’s not always possible for people to drop hundreds of dollars on a plane ride and Broadway tickets. Our tickets for Cursed Child were expensive, and we didn’t even get the best seats. I can’t believe how elitist people can be in thinking that if, for whatever reason, you can’t afford to see a Broadway show, then you shouldn’t be given a cheaper, more accessible option.

Also, like, I’m never going to be able to see the original Broadway cast of Into the Woods live because that show was running in 1987, but thanks to the professionally filmed DVD, I can watch it whenever I want and I love it. Money and time should not stop someone from experiencing theatre, ever.

Anyway, it was an amazing experience and I’m so glad I went! If anyone wants to talk more about it, or get my more spoiler-y opinions, shoot me a message! If you go anon, I’ll tag all responses with #cursed child spoilers.

#it was so so so so good #im still geeking out #does anyone want me to make a separate post about the shipping discourse? #cause i'm more than happy to #i just didn't wanna get too discourse-y in this post #harry potter #harry potter and the cursed child

[headcanonsandmore]

What if the book!Golden Trio met the film!Golden Trio

Book!Harry would just be chatting with film!Harry and realising that film Harry is way less sassy than he is (’Wait- you didn’t say ‘there’s no need to call me “sir”, professor’?) . 

Book!Hermione would be staring suspiciously at film!Hermione, wondering why her bushy hair is non-existent, and getting irritated that she doesn’t have any real flaws (’you’re weren’t even socially awkward? That doesn’t seem...right’).

Meanwhile, film!Ron would be crying into book!Ron’s shoulder, sobbing about ‘how sorry he is’. Book!Ron would be softly patting his back, and whispering ‘it’s fine, it’s okay, it wasn’t your fault’. 

#what if the book!golden trio met the film!golden trio #book ron vs movie ron #book ron weasley vs movie ron weasley #ron weasley books vs movies #ron weasley books vs films #hermione granger books vs films #hermione granger books vs movies

[vivithefolle]

So I had this -slightly- random thought earlier on today about the portrayal of Peeta Mellark in the Hunger Games movies vs books and how he is "weaker" in the films like Ron Weasley in the Harry Potter films was as in they both kind of got turned into sexy lamps

I didn’t read/watch the Hunger Games but I’ll take your word for it.

Any way, it sucks for both the actors and the characters involved, and I hate Hollywood’s stupid obsession with recycling the same tired formula over and over.

#vivi answers #ask #the hunger games #hp #harry potter #movies

[a-fandolarian]

8 people I'd like to know better

I was tagged by @toriamalfoy to do this so here goes

ONE / name / alias. Peter

TWO / birthday. June Third

THREE / zodiac sign. Gemini

FOUR / height. 5’11ishaybe 6'0 I'm not sure

FIVE / hobbies. Gaming, reading,

SIX / favourite colors. Blues, blacks and bronze

SEVEN / favourite books. The Harry Potter series, The Once and Future King, Mad Merlin

EIGHT / last song listened to. Rolling in the Deep - Adele

NINE / last film watched. Spiderman Far From Home

TEN / inspiration for muse. Music?

ELEVEN / dream job. Uhhhh

TWELVE / meaning behind your url. Its combining my favorite HP and Marvel characters, Captain America and Ron Weasley (who's broom is a cleansweep)

THIRTEEN / top 3 ships. Jily, Steve Rogers x Natasha Romanoff, Peter Parker x Michelle Jones

FOURTEEN / lipstick or chapstick. chapstick

FIFTEEN / currently reading. Avengers vs X-men

Tagging: @niffleurs @tonksandlupin @sailingthenightsea @burgundydahlia @wookieeoftheyear @rosegold-coffin and anyone else who wants to do things

#tagged

[princesserica84]

This is a really well done video on how the films ruined Ron and Hermione. It talks about how Steve Kloves (screenwriter for 7 out of the 8 films) changed/ruined both Ron’s character and Hermione’s character as well as both of their individual relationships with Harry. I really recommend watching it!

@headcanonsandmore

#harry potter #harry potter books #harry potter films #book vs film #fan video #Ron Weasley #Ron and Hermione #prizoner of azkaban #steve kloves #philosophers stone #chamber of secrets #goblet of fire #order of the phoenix #half blood prince #deathly hallows #princesserica84 #Hermione Granger #ron weasley defense squad #defend ron weasley #defend romione

[jaskiersbard]

Female Characters in Harry Potter vs Fantastic Beasts

So I feel like my earlier post today regarding my criticism of the female characters of FBAWTFT wasn’t quite recieved how I intended, mostly because I worded it badly as I was in a rush to go to work. However, I want to address some points that people have brought up.

You can read the posts HERE and HERE for what I said about the female characters in Beasts.

To start, I’m NOT saying female characters cannot be in love.

That seems to be a common misunderstanding. I’m not critical of the fact Tina/Queenie have love interests - that’s wonderful - but what I’m critical of is the fact that they don’t seem to have any other storylines.

Take Hermione; her love interest is Ron, but that’s not the ONLY storyline that’s important to her character: there’s S.P.E.W., her intelligence, her grades etc. etc. Her relationship with Ron is NOT the only aspect of her character/her only storyline.

Next, Ginny: at first she was fawning over Harry because he was her “celeb crush”. However, she soon grows into her own character with her own interests/story; the fact she snuck out to practice Quidditch in secret, her Bat-Bogey Hex skills, her friendship with Hermione and Luna, being possessed by Voldemort. Her storyline with Harry is NOT her only storyline.

Nymphadora Tonks: yes, love interest is Lupin, and yes, she’s depressed over him etc. etc. But it’s not her ONLY character storyline; we know she’s an Auror, that she trained under Mad-Eye and was his apprentice, she’s close to Molly, she knows her aunt wants to kill her. Her whole Lupin storyline isn’t the only thing about her.

In comparison, from what we have seen/know so far, Queenie does NOT have any storyline outside “oh I’m so in love with Jacob”. Which, okay, cool. But that’s literally her only real storyline - and it includes coercing him with magic into leaving his home/business so they can get married. As I’ve said before, that is some serious messed up Merope Gaunt shit.

Do not get me wrong, I ship Newtina HARD and want them to get together more than anything because I think their relationship could end up being beautiful. Tina is at least slightly better thus far in that she seems to care about her job - but she’s willing to risk losing it AGAIN for a male character/Credence. He’s away from Mary Lou, he’s controlling his Obscurus - why does she need to risk being fired by chasing him? Her only other storyline in CoG is her being pissed at Newt for not writing her back - that’s it. 

As in my post above, I’ve discussed Leta/Maledictus/Bunty.

Second, I’m not saying that all characters have to be “hard/badass/fighting/not typical girly” etc. 

Eg. Molly Weasley. For the first 6 books - and most of the seventh - she’s a warm, home-orientated mother and wife. She doesn’t have a job other than keeping the house and raising the children. And that’s okay. When she DOES become a badass, it’s only because she’s lost one child and sees another nearly being killed by Bellatrix - it’s motherly protectiveness. Her storyline isn’t about men entirely, she’s a supportive matriarch to all of the characters in the series and a decently skilled witch.

Eg. Fleur Delacour. Hermione seems to dislike Fleur because she’s appearingly “vain” and “focused on beauty”. At first glance, Fleur does come across as vain and extremely focused just on the fact she’s beautiful. She doesn’t stand out much during the Triwizard Tournament, she has a romance with Bill and we don’t really see her fighting that much in the series. But she’s still a wonderful character because she loves her sister, because she loves Bill, because she develops from thinking of Harry as “dis leetle boy” to respecting him for saving Gabrielle. She doesn’t stop being feminine or beautiful, and she doesn’t suddenly kick ass - but she’s still wonderful.

I’m not saying that all of the female characters in Beasts have to kick ass or be non-feminine to be “good” characters. Queenie could be interesting, if they focused more on her Legilimency and how it affects her (because the vibe I seem to get during the first film is just a brushed over “meh I’m used to it”). Leta could be interesting, if they give her other storylines that don’t have anything to do with Theseus/Newt. Maledictus could be a tremendously interesting character if they give her a chance to have a character outside Credence - because judging from what we know, her role in the film is “Credence rescues her from the circus, they run away together, she tries to help him find his mother”, with perhaps a side of “oh yeah she’s got a blood curse btw”. 

I’m not criticising any of the female Beasts characters for being feminine, or for being representative of women in the 20s - my problem is that their storylines seem to focus on men more than anything else. That was literally all I meant. I’m not saying they’re BAD characters - but I am a little baffled and disappointed by how JKR is choosing to write them.

I could be wrong - the film hasn’t even come out yet - and I will happily admit I’m wrong in that case. But right now, this is how I personally feel.

#tina goldstein #queenie goldstein #leta lestrange #newt scamander #fantastic beasts: the crimes of grindelwald #fantastic beasts and where to find them #harry potter