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#s3: capitalism criticism
beskad · 1 year
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I've finally put my finger on it
The thing that bothered me most about season 3 of the mandalorian was how cheap it feels
I can't think of a single new music theme that caught my attention, the CG/compositing was inconsistent, we've already extensively covered the writing issues...
They cut Tem Morrison and didn't even tell him?? Very few new characters and not a single new named Mandalorian character? They replaced Ludwig Göransson for the soundtrack and it shows.
Disney is a multibillion dollar megacorp and they're cheaping out on their flagship Star Wars show? It's baffling.
(except it's not, because it's Disney and it's capitalism and you must always have exponential growth!!! steady profit isn't good enough 💀)
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The Mandalorian season 3
Ok so it’s been a week since the season ended and I’ve had time to let my thoughts sit with the show. 
My final opinion is essentially that yeah, I liked it.
But it is absolutely no where near the first two seasons for me. Those two seasons mean everything to me. They are my favorite TV show.
And season 3 was good. Really good at times even. Good enough for me to enjoy. I’m excited for where the show is going to go next and I loved the ending. 
But I will never be able to get over the potential we had at the end of season 2. Because I know what I WANTED for season 3. And all of my criticisms didn’t change as the season finally finished. I still have them.
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I stand by the fact that we could have had the same plot but written better. Because what SHOULD have happened, is that Din and Grogu should have still been separated when the season started. We should have seen Din struggle with his choice to remove his helmet. Because if it was never an issue, if he never had any doubt about his creed? If it wasn’t meant to be a question on whether he would try to “redeem” himself? He never would have taken his helmet off in the first place.
So I would have liked to see him grapple with that. I would have liked to see him get rejected from his covert, like he did in tbobf (they never should have put that episode in another show). And then suffer with the loneliness and have THAT lead him to want to see Grogu again. And sure, get turned away just like in tbobf. It could be exactly the same.
And after he’s turned away by his covert, and then by Ahsoka/Luke, I wanted to see him grapple with the fact that he was truly alone. And I think that could have been a good reason for him to turn fully back to his creed. Reconnect with it and realize he wanted to redeem himself in the waters. You can even have Bo Katan be there, and even have Din need her help on Mandalore, and maybe even have Grogu return to him then. It would have been a great midseason episode to have their reunion AND the mythosaur reveal in one! Can you imagine?
Only it would have all been through a more Din-focused lens. It would have been a good half season to pursue through that idea. And then, Luke offers Grogu the same choice, and Grogu chooses Din, and they get reunited. But not until at least halfway through the season. Any my god, more emotional than it was in tbobf, because having the reunion scene for a few seconds in the middle of a battle? I didn’t like that even then. 
And the second half of the season could have still pulled back from Din a bit and focused on the Mandalorians. Just with a bit more focus on WHY Din doesn’t want the darksaber. on WHY he struggles to wield it (we really never went back to that. Shame). It could have still led to Bo getting the darksaber, and the ultimate battle with Gideon, and the darksaber getting destroyed.
But the show didn’t feel quite the same as the first two seasons. They really stole the weight of the season 2 finale away. It really doesn’t hit the same anymore, because they undercut it before we could even make it to S3. And I’m not upset about the plot points. But they set up a potential that never got realized, and it feels like losing something.
So yeah. I liked season 3. It was good. But I LOVE season 1 and 2. And I hope going forward it feels like that magic again.
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thetardigrape · 3 months
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No S3.
Despite enormous popularity, despite widespread critical acclaim, despite a rabid fanbase shouting from every rooftop.
No S3.
OFMD was a brilliant, well-made show that told a fantastic story, but it didn't line the pockets of the shareholders well enough. Zaslav wants shows that can be made cheap and run forever. Max wants to be the Wish of TV.
No S3.
Capitalism is the enemy of art.
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vaguelyomens · 6 months
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Well, I made the mistake of scrolling through the Good Omens tag and what I have learned so far is
We must never criticize S2 (People would rather believe it was written badly on purpose rather than just admit it was bad?)
People care more about seeing their faves in funny little outfits than the fact that all of S1, the whole point of it, was completely undermined (The costumes can be fun and the show can be bad at the same time, you know...)
RPF is Capital B Bad unless you're imagining MS and DT as themselves while playing their roles (??)
There are lots of people trying to prove they're queer by pretending to be attracted to GT and AP (and wanting to see them make out in s3 which is also somehow not RPF). OR people acting like they can only hold erotic fantasies about MS or DT if they're "fair" and give some kind of obligatory praise to their partners? (Aside: you don't have to be attracted to anyone to prove anything. It's ok that you're horny for MS and/or DT and not their partners. You can still be queer without naming names, so to speak.
Both the fandom and Gaiman seem to think he is god (and for a fandom that likes to throw around "it's religious trauma!" so much, you think they'd be wary of blind worship)
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eastgaysian · 11 months
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hii, so. i've been thinking about it as a woc living in the third world myself but um. the critique of succession on like, neglecting race, don't make a lot of sense to me for a number of reasons like okay it's def a laugh whenever someone says "i wanna imagine what a black character would look like on succession" but it's not really an Elephant In The Room wrt to appraisal of the writers' room imo? bec from where i'm coming it's not so much an implicit thing that they've avoided dealing with race and maybe i'm wrong? but like stewy and lawrence were very important characters in s1, and marcia was too atleast till s2. we got shiv getting someone to look into marcia's background and the deleted scene from the s3 finale where they talk about their past. and everything that you talked about kendall after ep8 imo. employing jess and lisa and marrying rava (jewish) and telling sophie he loves her only to walk all over them. connor mentioning how poc and women were not allowed on the upper floors (decision-making rooms) of waystar when he was young. a black woman being one of the people who voted against logan in the coup in s1. other instances come to mind too (roman asking "is he a jew btw", shiv's implied backstory w lisa esp how sanaa lathan talked about it) etc but overall i feel, it's not like a sidelined thing as much as them hyperfocusing on the family as the show has gone on. i think they're conversation on gender gets more screentime since almost half the characters are women, and it's layered in with nuances of class and race but also how sexism just sometiems pervades those institutions as well. maybe i'm completely wrong though, idk :/
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i generally agree with what you're saying, and this is what i'm referring to when i say that i do believe race is a concern for the writers. there's a demonstrated awareness of how race and class intersect in several instances throughout the show, there's some amount of thought put into it. but it's clearly not a central concern that gets intentionally, consistently explored and critiqued in the way succession deals with capitalism, familial abuse, misogyny, sexual violence, etc. the recurring characters of color aren't in the main cast, they've all been sidelined or written off for various reasons. while there's plenty to read between the lines about how race affects the way stewy or marcia or jess move in the world, this hasn't been explicitly brought up in the show until s4 (the direct comments about race are all from white main characters usually speaking in a general sense), and in s4 sophie and jess's responses to racist rhetoric have ultimately been in service to kendall's character.
this is kind of an inevitability of how succession is constructed. it's about the roys, an obscenely wealthy, privileged, white family. their space in the world is overwhelmingly occupied by white people who have insular worldviews and do not care at all about the people of color they interact with or the oppression they face. the people of color who work for them aren't real people to them, and the people of color they work with or hang out with or marry are only people to them as long as they don't really think about their race. despite all the jokes i make about What if the roys were wasian, the roys can't be nonwhite, and when the focus of your show is this kind of white family and their viewpoint you have very little space to meaningfully talk about race.
but like, if sidelining characters of color and never being able to meaningfully address race is an inevitability of how succession is constructed, then that doesn't make it above criticism, it just means that the object of criticism is how the show is constructed. (monster of a sentence, sorry, i'm not getting graded on this so i can't be bothered to edit it to be actually coherent.) stealing from caden romanroydinnerparty's response to an ask here:
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i think the... strain? limitations? of succession's format and its ability to comment on race are more exposed in s4 due to its increased political focus, which requires acknowledging the racism + antisemitism within fascist rhetoric. given these constraints, there is at times visible effort to talk and think about race, but this is inherently limited and often awkward because from the start, the show wasn't 'designed' to do that. constructing a show that can't talk about race doesn't happen without some degree of racist bias on the part of the creators and, maybe more relevantly, in-built racism in the entertainment industry as a whole. i think succession could be better with how it handles race, but it could also be a whole lot worse. flawed as it is, there is still plenty of interesting stuff to me in the way the show does address race. i don't know that a show like succession - or any mainstream tv show really - could ever be devoid of racism or 'anti-racist.'
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steveharrington · 2 years
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honestly don't know if it's just me or if im going insane or something but sometimes i feel like a lot of steddie fanfic is people using steve as a reader insert for that weird suave sexy dominating fanon version of eddie to get with like. theres just something about the amount of uwu helpless babygirl steve fic where ppl completely ignore like. Most of steves character and his experiences just bc they think it'd be hot if he got wrecked or something that's truly bizarre and kind of concerning to me
you’re so right!! it really disturbs me how often steve is treated as this infantilized object devoid of any aspects of his real personality. it’s not exclusive to one ship either. i’ve seen it in steddie content, stancy content, stonathan content, and i don’t read h*rringrove for obvious reasons but i scroll past those fics on ao3 when i don’t feel like using filters and the summaries imply that it’s a rampant trend there too. i know everyone makes jokes about steve being pretty and dumb but it genuinely disturbs me how much nsfw content of him capitalizes on that and exaggerates it to the degree that it feels like the authors and readers want to make steve as clueless and helpless as possible because they think that’s….sexy? i guess? not to read too into things but the scene in s3 where steve is tied up and having his hair stroked and his face touched without his consent while he is visibly repulsed by it has always been extremely uncomfortable for me to watch because it just feels very. malicious in intent beyond the cartoony villains that the russians had been up until that point? and sometimes i feel like nsfw fics on here and on ao3 almost replicate that energy with scenarios where steve is smoking with eddie and he’s written as this helpless lightweight who needs to be taught the ways of the world and dominated by his sex god boyfriend and it’s just…gross! it’s gross to me!! not to mention it mischaracterizes eddie as well and feels like shoving them both into these dom/sub roles that they do not fit in at all, and that’s where the argument that people are fetishizing mlm relationships through steddie becomes a valid criticism to make
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yeahyankee · 1 year
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Deanna Leimert: You’re worried about making money during an Applebee’s Solstice?!
Capitalism & Applebees: Critical Role S3’s Final Boss
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biblioflyer · 1 year
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What is Picard's narrative style?
Just sort of thinking aloud here, but I'm finding myself rather baffled by a particular sort of response to Jack Crusher that seems to be a reaction to a saccharine, uncritical adoration of him that I'm somehow completely unaware of. Maybe there's a huge area of the web that is fawning over Jack that I'm just not seeing because of the whims of the algorithm.
I have a feeling this reaction might be dependent on what framework people are looking at the show through and whether its the classic Trek framing of pulp drama and "protagonist centric morality" where Jack is somehow supposed to make us feel seen and be presumed to be correct in all things.
Which I think flies in the face of the sort of "prestige drama" framing of the streaming era where the protagonists are limited and fallible and while they may be motivated by high minded principles, adhering to those principles is not always easy: see also Crusher and Picard talking themselves into executing Vadic or Seven executing the gangster in season one, and the right course of action is not always obvious. I strongly believe that this is the more appropriate way to analyze Seasons One and Two of Picard, and I suspect Discovery becomes a richer series if one adopts this posture.
Speaking of which, this is all very reminiscent of criticism of Burnham oddly enough, which makes it extra odd and ironic because it also seems to be rooted in lingering anger over how the fandom has responded to Burnham and a perceived hypocrisy in the reception of Jack. Don't get me wrong, I got to like the guy even though I dislike both the secret lovechild trope and the messiah antichrist trope, but if I had thought I was supposed to assume he's objectively correct about everything and uber special, that would not have been the case.
If the assumption is that characters like Burnham and Jack are pulp action heroes then yes, the entire plot falls apart like a house of cards because they repeatedly do very poorly thought out things that turn out through happenstance to have been the right move after all for reasons no one could reasonably predict ahead of time. Additionally the plot winds up centering them as a key element in saving or condemning the Federation, the galaxy etc.
However! Greek tragedies involving Fate with a capital F also deal in self fulfilling prophecies and narratives that are going to fulfill themselves no matter how the characters try to resist. Some of the darkest stories humanity has ever told involved predestination paradoxes.
Which to me means that if we are to assume that modern Star Trek is more like The Expanse, Babylon 5, or even Deep Space Nine; absolutely no one should be assuming Jack is supposed to be an audience surrogate. He's just another mortal flailing his way through the story who didn't ask to be a chess piece in a Borg Xanatos gambit and, if anything, keeps trying to get people to stop dying in his stead.
People who are making these choices are very explicitly doing it not because Jack is uniquely deserving, but because he's not. The argument advanced time and again is that of solidarity. That actually the Vulcans are wrong and throwing people to the wolves because it would be more efficient from a consequentialist view is an error.
Now you don't have to buy that and I don't think Picard S3 actually did a great job of making this argument (major credit to Todd Stashwick for making what could easily have been yet another in a long line of Starfleet antagonists who have taken consequentialism too far and made him seem like the smartest guy in the room a lot of the time.)
But! If you think for instance that Turkey ought to be kicked out of NATO for its treatment of the Kurds with full recognition of the potential of earthquakes in the geopolitics of Southeastern Europe and the Middle East, or that the US is right to risk nuclear war to help Ukraine*: then there is an argument for sending a message to bad guys that there are people who will put skin in the game because its the right thing to do even if the risks are extreme. You could even make consequentialist arguments for following one's conscience that are rooted in solidarity and inspiring better behavior from others who may be inclined towards timidity.
*You are free to disagree with either of these propositions if that disagreement is rooted in reality and a legible ethical argument, I'm mainly using these as analogies rather than trying to sell the reader on them. The what, hows, whys, and other contingencies of geopolitics are fussy, the consequence vast, and I don't mean to flatten them.
Admittedly the debate over individualism vs consequentialism and Jack's narrative role is an argument that I think would have been strengthened if the series hadn't done an abrupt 180 on the recurring themes of the validity of people trying to solve problems on their own without having to be in Starfleet.
But there again, I get what was trying to be signaled by putting Jack, Raffi, and Seven on the bridge: Starfleet is turning the corner on excessive proceduralism. Which incidentally forgets that at several points in the narrative, the entire season might have been derailed if people had listened to Shaw, although I'm not unaware of the counter arguments about solidarity, humanity, and standing up to bullies....these just weren't arguments that were made well.
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darlin-djarin · 11 months
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it's kam! just wanted to add onto your comparison of SW and real life and this culture of non-criticism i am seeing a lot of throughout internet discussion. this is a long post i realise this but i hope you find it interesting
i think it's imperative to understand that the stories we write exist in context, and that goes for every kind of story. no story is made up on just a whim, there is something that the writer must have experienced or even spent a second of a thought thinking about before putting the pen to the paper. and with that you have every right to criticise or even just think about the context in which the fictional story was written.
take animal farm. obviously george orwell didn't think that animals actually talked but because he was writing about capitalism, the failed russian revolution, we can critique his writing based on THE POINT HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE. for example, i think the use of animals as a microcosm for the intellectual inequality amongst people is flawed because some animals are simply not as intelligent as others and do not have the capacity, whereas most people have the capacity to be equally intelligent because we are all the same species. therefore the point he was trying to make about people being stupid hence why revolutions fail is silly because it omits the nuance involved in education suppression. to simply just say "well talking animals aren't real so why are you criticising it" is dumb because the argument orwell himself was trying to make is flawed by the premise he himself put out.
relating this back to the mandalorian, there is absolutely real life parallels with religions and ethnicity, particularly islam as far as i am aware. of course, different people have different opinions about religion and i personally think seeing din struggle with his own faith and his relationship with his helmet spoke to me because of my own life. that is okay. the issue that i had with mando s3 was that it took these very real topics specifically regarding ethnoreligious identiy and did not show a good enough exploration of this topic and sometimes perpetuated harmful tropes. one that's more pertinent to me is the irish/northern irish-catholic, protestant conflict. that was not only about religion but also ethnic identity, and it had a serious consequence on the lives of people up until only 20 odd years ago.
so in mando, where you have bo, portrayed by a white american, who is the "pure" mandalorian, a former terrorist, looking down on a man portayed by an ethnic minority, his religion and his lifestyle and her friends questioning his identity because he's mandalorian by belief WITHOUT questioning her side of the whole ordeal, by undermining the validity of the religion without giving exploration into their customs, smells really bad. top it off by the fact it was written by a white american man, likely raised without religion but if not, a christian, it begs the question: what was jon thinking as he wrote this? how small is his world view? why does he want to show some aspects of this type of culture without giving them the fair screen time? it is simply flawed storytelling.
sorry for the LONG ramble but i fully support your right to feel how you feel regarding din and his helmet, and even though i have different opinions regarding din and his religion because of my own biases, it doesn't take much to respect people's personal beliefs.
fiction doesn't equal reality but in the same vein, it doesn't exist in a vacuum. you may write about stuff you do not necessarily agree with but whatever you write has the potential to reflect on pertinent issues. i think that's the take away here. which is weird because that feels like a universal truth
anyways i hope you're having a good day!!
DUDE YOU’RE SO RIGHT !!!! EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID !!!! i loved the relation back to animal farm. you said it PERFECTLY. i think anon’s reading comprehension is like a 0 though so i doubt they’ll understand what you said. but YES you’re absolutely right and i adore how many people from different walks of life can relate in a variety of ways to fiction. tysm for saying this
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harinikhb30 · 3 months
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ace-avian · 1 year
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It’s time.
To rate the versions of Garroth. Please note these are my opinions, you do not have to agree. I will be going from least favourite to most favourite. All the seasons are going to be counted as separate Garroths. No I am not counting mini series’ but upside down stories gets a participation trophy.
Here we go.
At the bottom of the list: Mermaid Tales Garroth. I love pirates so much I have a bias but this man- THIS MAN- you can bet he wouldn’t pay child support and would probably call me a slur
Next- PDH S1 Garroth. I don’t have to give my reasoning- mans kissed a girl without her consent. That’s reason enough. In the words of Chris from TDI- not cool dude.
Next- FCU Garroth. Hoo. This man infuriates me to no end. Garroth, buddy, if a girl you know and are very close to is CLEARLY not doing well and you NOTICE THAT, if she asks you what you like about her when you ask her out, do not say something physically. Dumbass.
Fourth from the bottom; PDH S2. He’s got a bit of development, he apologised for kissing Aphmau with consent. Though it was after SHE mentioned it so points deducted for not knowing it was a shit thing to do and apologising beforehand.
Next- Mystreet S1 Garroth. This man somehow did not learn- moving to a town/street where the girl who has stated she doesn’t like you like that is moving- that is CREEPY. Stop it. Stop that. And do I have to mention the play? I don’t think I do.
After them- MCD S3. As shitty as that season is, I love MCD so much, but I just- I cannot excuse the casual racism. Garroth you don’t trust Lio cos he’s from Tu’la? Okay you went evil for a bit but we’re not gonna talk about that? Sure he apologised (the Lio thing him betraying was never addressed again) but it still happened.
Next on the ladder is both Mystreet S2 and S3. They go together cos…they’re just there. I just kinda feel indifferent, they’re just kinda vibing. I’d say S3 is a bit higher than S2 but that’s cos S3 is like the only season I really like.
Next- MCD S2. Again- he’s kinda there. He’s lower than S1 cos he does kiss Aph without consent AGAIN- but he does get points for apologising for his anger during the going to rescue Zianna arc (though that anger was PERFECTLY justified the pregnant storyline was ridiculous with a capital what the fuck). Nice himbo man.
Next! Mystreet S5. Again. Just. Kinda. There. I love werewolf Garroth to be entirely honest though the Garroth and KC kiss scene throws me for a loop and gets him points redacted- I can’t remember how or why that happened. Prolly Jessica being a terrible writer.
We’re getting to the top; next is MCD S1. Brilliant himbo lad, even more in the rewrite. I adore him and his little awkwardness, though again- went evil cos- friend kissed the girl he liked- okay then- though not many points deducted cos I imagine Lillian did a fair bit with that.
Next is Mystreet S4 Garroth. I like him, his panic over Zane, and their brother dynamic ACTUALLY HAVING DEVELOPMENT- my beloveds. I have a vivid memory of crying when they hugged. Emerald Secret Garroth gets in the top three. Good job buddy. Gold star.
Second place! Mystreet S6. I have a supernatural creature bias as well including to werewolves (though unlike Jessica admitting it’s a werewolf fetish I just think they’re cool especially when the lore is fleshed out or changed), it enhances his himbo and AGAIN- ZANE AND HIS RELATIONSHIP IS WHAT SAVES HIM. The development of the forever potions helps tremendously. The moment of zane trying to reach out to his brother? Ow. O w.
And first place!! A Royal Tale Garroth! This man is peak I will not accept criticism. Him and Jenny are kinda cute in this scene I’m not gonna lie. Also trauma over killing his dad, gives him some spice a lot of Garroths lack (but that’s the writing :) ). Good job my boy. Gold star.
And as said, honourable mention to swap/upside down stories Garroth. Or as my friend says, Girlboss Garroth. He gets participation trophy and a head pat.
Hope y’all enjoyed. I’ll have to do this again.
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johnny-and-dora · 1 year
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🚨OBLIGATORY MYTHIC QUEST SEASON 3 POST🚨
i’ve had some time to think about it and i enjoyed s3 overall - there was some really funny stuff, great performances (especially from charlotte and rob) and some really great episodes. it’s nothing that people haven’t said before (and probably a lot better), but if there’s one criticism i have, it’s the lack of character development/arcs for anyone other than poppy & ian. i love their dyanmic and it’s always been the central dyanmic of the show, but mq has such a great talented ensemble cast with such varied rich characters and most of them were criminally underused this season, ESPECIALLY brad in my extremely biased yet valid opinion. (more under the cut)
it’s just frustrating bc the s2 finale set up so many interesting things that didn’t really matter in the end. how did brad going to prison for jo not matter? why did rachel give up on writing so easily, espeically after cw died? why is dana suddenly just another version of ian now who somehow has the power and resources to start her own studio? tbh i’m mainly mad that they called an episode “to catch a mouse” AND had a brad/jo subplot and didn’t explore their wonderful unhinged mouse/shark dyanmic. it was right there!!! and why completely scrap the movie subplot in the last episode, becuase that just made it feel like a big waste of time. i think mythic quest: playpen is a great way of compromising and a great way to get ian and poppy to rejoin mq, i’m much more into the plot of mq vs another rival studio (i’m assuming we might see that with studio dana in s4) as i thought mq vs grimpop was going to be a thing this season that we...didn’t see at all
i really liked the christmas episode (reminded me of everlight, my favourite ep) and sarian (holy shit that was some insanely perfect casting for young poppy). charlotte was fantastic as poppy the whole season, she had some of the funniest stuff and she nailed the sadder scenes too. i just thought s2 built on s1 so perfectly by playing with new dyanmics and showing whole new sides to characters (specifically brad and cw) so it’s frustrating to watch what felt like a backwards step in that sense, especially when it comes to brad, who felt like he was just...there. the “oh i’m just the janitor definitely not up to something nefarious” and david being so paranoid thing at the start of the season was so funny, so why did that go nowhere? brad and rachel is a really funny dyanmic, but brad saying he manipulated rachel into abandoning her ethics for the rewards of capitalism felt so much like tell, don’t show. like where is the evidence for that? also fuck nfts lol but this post is already far too long
i really like this show, that’s still true after this season. i think the two season renewal was probably a blessing and a curse and season 3 will end up being a transitionary season, maybe it was a little directionless because they knew they had another one guaranteed, i don’t know. the s3 finale did set up a lot of cool potential arcs for s4, i’m paticularly intersted in how that brad/dana/jo dyanmic will play out and i also love poppy/ian/david as a trio so that could be really fun. i just wanna see more from the whole cast, there’s so much potential for comedy and drama too with all of these characters! 
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coryosongbird · 2 years
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But sometimes I get that they kind of tried to criticize capitalism in s3, in how the mall was ruining the small business, but at the end it was more like it was bad because the government was corrupt, but not the system itself ???
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vitos-ordination-song · 5 months
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I’m going to do other things now but. Here’s my final thoughts. They said that The Wire s4 was tragedy porn, voyeuristicly presenting the audience with misery so they can feel good about bearing witness to it. They also try to frame the show as so liberal that the only conclusion it can come up with is after-school programs, and that otherwise it’s acting as if all we can do is throw our hands up at the brutality of American life.
But what they’ve missed is that the show IS critical of the capitalist system. They must not have done research, because David Simon has said as much. And maybe the issue is just that they don’t think that shows up enough in the series. However, they don’t engage with the text and frequently get details wrong, so I think it’s more likely that they didn’t rewatch it, or only rewatched a couple episodes. I think that they originally saw it as young liberals and liked it, and are now trying to overcompensate by castigating it and thus their ignorant past selves, or something like that. But they’re remembering it through skewed lenses. Even if you think the show is too pro-cop or too liberal, many of their takes were simply factually incorrect. For instance, they say that the show is pro-Democrat and that voting blue is framed as the only solution. I don’t even need to explain to anyone who paid attention to the show why that’s wrong. And the NUMBER ONE solution that is ABSOLUTELY CLEARLY COMMUNICATED by the show and David Simon himself is ending the drug war. Call it reformist, it is still an actual policy that would make America a better place! The fact that they never even bring it up, and instead say s3 was a metaphor for the Iraq war, is incredible. And given that money, corruption, and economic disparity are the driving force of every single plot line, I also don’t think the anti-capitalist leanings are deniable. David Simon has even said that the Greek is meant to be the representation of omnipotent/omnipresent capitalism. Matt and Felix complain about the show being too obvious but they apparently missed this.
Let’s go back to season 4’s tragedy porn. Well, if all these themes and social critiques are the point of the show, season 4 is actually VITAL to the story. Viewers aren’t supposed to sit there being titillated by Mike, Randy, and Duquan’s stories—they’re supposed to want to do something about it! Is there something inherently explorative about depicting real-world situations people end up in? They said it Duquan’s story was “too sad.” Do you know what’s actually too sad? The fact that millions of children around the world are in similar situations. I’m not saying the show is perfect, there’s a hundred things I could say to criticize it. But to act like characters as well crafted and believable as Michael and Duquan are just there for liberals to stroke themselves to? I don’t buy it. They have too much dignity, too much agency despite their circumstances! They’re not only victims. Even Duquan still chooses where he ends up. The show just explores the sick circumstances which leads the characters to their fate—it does an amazing job of balancing individual and society’s interplay. But somehow while saying that the s4 storyline is just tragedy porn, they ALSO claim that the show doesn’t do enough to establish the many, primarily economic reasons kids end up being chewed up by the system. THAT’S THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE SEASON.
Frankly, the reason I love The Wire more than any other American drama is that it goes there. It depicts people from all walks of life, even those whose stories are rarely told. I may sound prudish or moralistic but genuinely: I’ve had enough of the protagonists from the kinds of shows they like. I enjoyed what I’ve seen of The Sopranos, it’s not like I thought Deadwood was bad, and I haven’t finished either so I’m not qualified to talk on them. But I’m tired of “[almost always white] man is evil and ambitious, let’s explore his psychology” stories. I can like them in movie form (There Will Be Blood), I can appreciate them when they’re well executed, but god they’re so overdone. We have a million of the fucking guys. We have only one of Mike, Dukie, Randy, and Namond. That’s why The Wire is superior to me.
Even tho I spent a lot of the night mad, I’m actually glad I watched that video. I’ve never articulated my thoughts on The Wire as much as I did tonight, fueled by pure rage. I’ve still only seen a few interesting takes on The Wire, but I suppose this was one of them for how bafflingly wrong it was. In my attempt to describe how, I came up with the above and many other thoughts. I also spit out a whole verbal essay on the portrayal of cops on the show earlier, as well as its journalistic realism vs. TV genre tropes and conventions. But anyway, I can understand why ppl don’t like certain things about The Wire, even if they don’t bother me, but this video was just ridiculous.
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