What do we know about this show? Do we have any more details about this show?! Maybe SK is gradually coming into a new era of LGBTQI+ acceptance (at least in media)??? 🌈🌈🌈 https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/05/south-korean-ott-platform-wavve-under-discussion-for-a-new-gay-dating-entertainment-program
I WAS JUST TALKING TO KEVIN ABOUT THIS OMG.
Your link (which, allkpop is trash but I'll allow it because there's not much else about this out there):
And here's the text so you ain't even gotta click if you don't wanna.
Oh look boys kissing! No?
Identifiable boys close to each other!
Definitely gay boys!
Still... no?
No seriously I stole that pic straight off of KBIZoom talking about the EXACT SAME SHOW POSSIBILITY - but they had to censor the shots in case anyone thought the models might be ... kinda GAY.
I believe we see closer stuff than that on your average Memories DVD:
BUT ANYWAY Kevin and I were discussing it - he brought it up. And I was like "uh BL (boy love) is a huge market, it'd be stupid not to make some bank on it" and he goes,
"This is Korea. Boy love as a genre is acceptable here because it's fiction. A reality show with actual people willing to be out on television is going to be a hard sell for both the audience and the potential cast."
So I go well what about the fact that they're even considering it then, and he goes,
"Considering, curious about, beginning market research on, all words that mean this is not something that is ready to happen here yet. Maybe in the next administration, but not now. They probably started round-table-ing this idea a year ago, but with Yoon in office? It's not happening. Give it a few years to let the idea simmer and see what the next President does."
But my trash white American girl opinion is that of course it would be a great idea -- in theory, it could open some eyes. Except that the conservatives wouldn't watch it. Much like Drag Race here and in Europe, it would be a niche market for the first few years. WATCH ME JUST DIGRESS HERE I DO THAT SOMETIMES
Kim Chi competed on and nearly won Season 8 of RuPaul's Drag Race, and is a Korean man with Korean parents. He is 34 years old and at the time he competed, his mother knew only that he was a gay makeup artist. His father and his brother didn't even know he was gay. And I'm not sure they know now.
And this dude lives in Los Angeles by way of Chicago. I can't imagine what his life would be like in Seoul, or Daegu, or Busan.
And while Kev agreed that yeah, okay, drag is a step farther, he also said, interestingly, that drag might have been MORE acceptable to his own Korean mother (rest her soul) than having a gay son would have been. Because he could have argued that he was into it for the theater - a bit of Japanese kabuki styling - versus "oh hey eomma I do sexy time with men, woke up gay today, bit fruity."
So the upshot is that gay fiction is one thing, but gay reality is entirely another. We're back to the "we don't talk about those things here, it isn't polite." Enjoying the romantic drama of two young (they're always young, Kevin noted, not being particularly young himself) pretty men is not the same thing as seeing Jungshin from accounting on a dating show.... for GAY PEOPLE.
And Kevin pointed out that honestly, even BTS are seen as fictional characters in Korea (and likely elsewhere). The idea that they are real human men with real romantic interests and real sex drives doesn't really fly, there. Not yet, anyway. So the "boy love" aspect is fine, as long as they're young, famous, pretty, and they don't admit to TOO much.
This is okay. ETA: and the above shot is edited, in case anyone didn’t know. See my fictional character point?
This is okay. But if they kissed or came out, that would NOT BE OKAY. And Taekook is not real, but the Jeon Parks are about as loud as they can get what with dropping honorifics like that, so as long as they're riding the line of fiction vs reality they're still okay.
Full on reality or even depicting reality, though, is still not okay - at least, not on the Seoul Broadcasting Network (SBS), who censored out the kisses in "Bohemian Rhapsody", the Freddie Mercury biopic as recently as 2021. And that caused some backlash on the internet:
But it hasn't changed a thing on the networks. YET.
Maybe someday. Hope springs eternal.
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Random fic idea
Last night I woke up cackling to myself after dreaming I saw a movie where a hero went back in time to save the world by stopping a villainous organisation. Only as he went around trying to save the day, the butterfly effect of random things happening made the organisation barely a threat anymore.
The movie kept changing perspectives between the hero (trying to track down information, convince other heroes of the dangers, and his general actions), the organisation (trying/failing to recruit), and the future villains (whose lives were being disrupted both of the above)
One major villain had his tragic backstory prevented, one got poached by a antihero before she turned villain, one got arrested through mistaken identity over a crime they didn't even commit, and two powerhouses met early and were so busy fighting/flirting that they didn't end up as villains because they were too busy pulling each others pigtails pissing each other off!
So the hero's prior knowledge was pretty much useless and in the end the powerhouse 'couple' took down the organisation themselves because they both noticed the other was paying too much attention to them and got pissed off!
The last scene was the hero staring in confusion at a report of the successful take-down of the very organisation he came to stop, another hero placing a bet on how long it would take the powerhouses to get together, and the antihero walking in to introduce her new partner.
I'm now very disappointed that this does not exist because I want to watch it again :'D
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