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sanjiafsincedayone · 2 years

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SaNa is enhanced by Toei? Filler vs manga and a shipping narrative + SaNa in new arcs and Nami's feelings

Sorry for the long title, but I decided to answer two asks in one post since they are in the same ask... And I also wanted the topics to be clear. Anyways, let's get to it because this will be a rather long one. :)

Hi @trompas-kun :) Thank you so much for liking my blog and my "Why SaNa over other ships" post. I apologize for it taking me so long to answer, but I kind of wrote more than I planned, and then I got sick for 3 weeks. I’m so sorry. T-T I hope it will be worth the wait.

I also want to say thank you for your questions! I find them very interesting, though I first hesitated to answer the first one due to the SaNa vs Lu/Na nature of it. But considering I still get random hate from Lu/Na shippers despite being fairly civil I suppose it doesn’t matter what I do. Besides, this is my view on the whole thing and I think it’s important to maybe add a counter to it since this concept of Toei being pro or anti various ships seem to have spread more and more the last couple of years, basically all of it coming from the Lu/Na shippers. Sadly the Sa/Na fandom doesn’t have as strong a voice as the Lu/Na one so this might go unnoticed to most, but I hope this view of Toei having their own secret agendas can die down at least a little as time passes.

Regarding Toei adding or changing things, they do it all the time to all kinds of moments. I personally think that the “Toei enhances Sana but downplays Lu/Na” is an exaggerated discourse that has spread because the Lu/Na shippers read the same analysis and spread some examples and trust it blindly instead of actually watching the anime and reading the manga with unbiased eyes. Not to mention when you have a bias you tend to notice “negative things” or things that go against your belief more. So because of this negativity bias and it being spread and talked about it has become “accepted” in the Lu/Na fandom that SaNa being pushed by Toei (at the expense of Lu/Na) is how it is. And because the Lu/Na fandom is loud and big it spreads even outside of their echo chamber to some degree, but from what I have seen this is mostly something that Lu/Na shippers claim and talk about and not the general fandom. So to begin with I wouldn’t say it’s “people saying” this, but rather fans that are Lu/Na shippers or anti Sa/Na.

I think it’s very convenient how the Lu/Na shippers ignore when the Toei makes things that highlight Nami and Luffy’s bond but say they favor Sa/Na when the truth is that Toei adds a lot in all kinds of moments, to fill out and make the anime longer than the manga. We for example have the whole Nebulandia thing which they praised to no end when it came out.

Not to mention in the WCI arc (around when this whole discorse started to spread) where they added a full moment of Nami going to Luffy and crying first after his fight with Sanji, though in the manga she goes directly to Sanji and has no interaction with Luffy until he wakes up again.

But I suppose Toei’s added moments are only “good” when it benefits them. For example how they love Nami wearing Luffy’s hat in Skypiea despite it being filler. She carries it in the manga, but she doesn’t wear it. It’s a small change, but one could call it “pandering” since Lu/Na shippers love to bring up Nami wearing his hat.

I could say in the same arc Sa/Na is “downplayed” by Toei making Sanji give flowers to both Nami and Robin when he only is shown wanting to give one to Nami in the manga. Of course over such a long show you can find various examples both for or against most ships being favored or “downplayed”. I do think these small changes can in some cases change an anime only watcher’s view, but most of the time it’s not really any huge changes that are being made.

They also forget that many of the “negative” Sa/Na moments are enhanced in the anime for gag purposes, something that makes many see Sa/Na in a worse way than they are portrayed in the manga. (Actually gags in general seems to get kind of overused in the anime.) For example showing Nami having to physically stop Sanji at times.

Sometimes Toei adds things that, though small, might change how the watchers view the characters but in no way do I think they are doing this to push one particular ship over another. I think this view that Toei pushes SaNa has more to do with recency bias and negativity bias in the shippers that don't like SaNa. They focus on only what they consider bad for their own ship, especially after having this theory being presented to them, and make it into a bigger thing that it likely is. Then they more easily remember these examples rather than things that in contrast might be “bad” for Sa/Na as a ship.

I’ve spoken about Sa/Na and fillers before in Hidden SaNami - Manga and filler, and I am not going to lie and say we don’t get really good fillers at times. But I am also of the belief that what Toei does is add things mostly based on what they think fits. And it just so happens that Sanji is very much specifically attached to Nami and their dynamic works well both for gags and in some cases even “romantic looking scenarios” when there is real drama going on. The writers at Toei see that and so they fill out scenes that already exist or create new ones that are in their opinion in character for the strawhats. For example, they know Sanji is a heart-eyed pervert, and so they added more moments for him with the mermaids in Fishman Island as an example. During WCI he had a romance focused storyline and thus they also added moments between Sanji and Purin that were not in the manga.

Sanji saving her from falling and San/Pu holding hands is one example of something that never happened, which to me clearly shows it’s more about adding what they think they can in regards to the characters and the current story, rather than having some secret agenda for certain ships.

Another San/Pu example is this tiny panel where Sanji is carrying her being zoomed in and changed to a bridial carry. It happens to many ships and moments so the "Toei loves SaNa" simply isn't true in my opinion.

Pandering to ships happens in most anime, and even Sanji x Zoro has gotten some rather obviously shippy moments. But the Lu/Na shippers don’t focus on or care about these other things, because Sa/Na (and to some extent Lu/Han) is their main target.

What I think Lu/Na fans might have a hard time accepting is that Luffy and Nami don't have a relationship where you can add shippy types of moments as easily. Not that it hasn’t happened, just look at the Nebulandia special again. But Luffy in particular is simply ill-fitted for shippy moments. For Hancock they added a “shippy scene” with Luffy but that was of course a dream and a gag, because it would be weird to see Luffy act like that towards anyone. The whole joke is that it’s out of character for Luffy.

Toei saw a chance to be funny and took it. Similarly we have seen Sanji “dream” of having a child with Nami in filler, which is also more in line with Sanji but would be really weird to see coming from Nami.

From what I recall this whole idea of Toei being pro Sa/Na was born in the Lu/Na fandom after the Zou scene with Nami running after Sanji. Then they just looked for older moments to add to their already decided hypothesis that Toei is biased (while still being happy about whatever added Lu/Na moment Toei has made and saying things like “they got it right this time”).

Granted that scene between SaNa in Zou is very dramatic and even slightly romantic looking, but Nami during all of Zou was very much highlighted as the most worried about Sanji in the manga. Thus Toei likely took the chance to add this scene. Likewise Nami was hurt by Sanji in WCI and thus they added the corridor walk scene (which I’ve seen anti Sa/Na people use as an example of Nami hating Sanji by the way). It’s extra drama added based on similar previous moments and the feelings they expressed in the manga.

There is actually a particular post from a Lu/Na shipper that I suspect made this viewpoint more widespread through their community, and in that post they even use Sa/Na examples that aren’t correct. For example, they claim that Nami’s reaction in the moment in Skypiea when Sanji saves Nami and Usopp is exaggerated in the anime. (And that Toei stole/copied the moment from a Lu/Na scene). Let me just show you a piece of that post here.

But, it isn’t really the way this post describes it. They excluded some manga panels in their “analysis” post, making the change seem more dramatic than it was.

Maybe they read this very incorrect old translation and trusted it? (Personally I don’t understand how this translation could happen to begin with.)

I don’t know, but Nami is saying exactly the same thing she did in the anime, asking why Usopp is accelerating and mentioning Sanji before Usopp interrupt her. The scene is longer than the small panel, but that is literally the purpose of making an anime based of a manga. But the dialogue is the same in the manga and the anime, and thus the whole point of the anime changing this "move or be toasted" moment to be more pro SaNa is simply false.

I remember seeing this post when it was new, and admittedly I have not checked all comparisons and I am sure some are legit changes/filler additions, but the Skypiea moment in particular made me annoyed because I know they described it incorrectly and it’s a moment from the manga that I really like, where Nami is showing a lot of concern for Sanji. I won’t share the link or full original post, because I don’t want people to go there and comment and make a fuss, but I also wanted to mention it as I do think it has affected the Lu/Na shippers view a lot.

More than anything though I think that Lu/Na shippers forget how many Sanji x Nami moments Oda himself has written in the manga. Then they use the fillers as an excuse or even anti-SaNa propaganda to lift their own ship and downplay SaNa. This is the perhaps radical opinion I have about it at least, because honestly when going through a manga that is 1000+ chapters and adding filler moments to that you can probably find a lot of inconsistencies that align with whatever agenda you try to push. You just have to use the right angle and ignore examples that might go against your point. (Which the Lu/Na fandom clearly has done) "It's Toei's fault SaNa looks like a good ship to some" is such a weird rhetoric to have considering how many great SaNa moments there are in the manga.

For me Sa/Na in the manga is a good ship that has had a lot of great moments. I feel like Lu/Na shippers tend to ignore or downplay how much Oda has given Sanji and Nami time to have their own relationship development and that Sa/Na is far from a shallow gag ship that’s promoted by Toei as some of them try to claim. Luffy himself said in WCI to Sanji that “Nami and the others worried about you more than anyone” and Nami and Sanji had their own storylines with serious interactions in many arcs despite Sanji not being the main hero.

In the end, maybe Toei’s image of the manga and the characters simply doesn’t fit with what the Lu/Na shippers want it to be? Maybe they have read too much into things that don't really suggest what they want it to? And then consequently get angry when other pairs get more shippy moments than their own.

Also, in general I find the filler excuse kind of funny, because they imply that Oda has no influence over the anime whatsoever and that Toei animation are the bad guys going against his will on purpose. Yet Toei also makes the movies, and some of those are extremely well-received, praised and used as “proof” amongst the Lu/Na fandom. So the movies are just this big exception when Toei does what Oda actually wants, while when it comes to the canon story being adapted they totally ignore Oda’s wishes and story? I very much doubt it. It’s simply Lu/Na shippers needing a villain for why things don’t look the way they want in the added anime moments, which are supposed to be extended filler based on the manga material and characters’ personalities. Of course they might not get it all right when making the anime, but I very much doubt they are adding things for some targeted reason towards shippers. (Though, again, pandering does exist to some extent where it might work in line with the characters).

In my opinion there are fillers added that are both positive and negative in regards to most fans’ views of the characters. But they are there to fill gaps, and to prolong the anime. Some are extensions of scenes Oda wrote, others are complete AU’s like the Edo Historical Special fillers. But it’s still going to be based on how the writers, producers and directors have interpreted the characters in the manga. Often that will mean things like more exaggerated gags or rehashed stories with new filler characters or the existing scenes getting more “flare”.

Of course at times the anime does very stupid additions that doesn’t always make sense, but even so the manga is still their source material. Though of course they only know what already is and not what Oda is planning to write. Hence we can sometimes see things lean more into what is going on in the current arc sometimes. Like in the 3rd movie when Sanji says he wants to be a prince, likely because of his Mr. Prince portrayal in Alabasta happening close to the movie being made, despite this clearly going against canon now years later when we know he is a prince and doesn’t like his heritage at all.

If Lu/Na shippers say Toei adds more shippy moments for SaNa than Lu/Na then it’s likely because Toei thinks it’s more in line with Sanji and Nami as characters compared to with Luffy. In the end though, filler is filler, and what Oda writes is what truly matters.

Personally I think the portrayal of Sanji and Nami is better in the manga compared to the anime (as most things) and never has filler been a reason for me personally to ship them or think they could become canon. It’s simply added moments, sometimes they are nice and other times not so nice. I know many other SaNa shippers are the same. I wanted to say this because too many times I see anti SaNa fans say those that ship them together must not read the manga. Trust me, we do.

But who knows, maybe I am the salty and biased one and Toei is actually pro Sa/Na against the will of Oda.

As for your second question I touched on it veeeery briefly in THIS POST speaking a little about SaNa in Wano. But I must admit this question is a lot more difficult to me than the first one. Especially since you ask about Nami’s feelings manifesting in particular and also asking for a prediction.

Honestly I don’t think we have gotten anything major from Nami herself except her worry and involvement in Sanji’s story during Zou and WCI. We got a few moments in Wano as well, like Sanji carrying her again, protecting her and of course the “Take care of my Nami-san” line. For me it’s the possible changes in Oda’s writing of Sanji and Nami and some of Sanji’s interactions and reactions to Nami that makes me think feelings from Nami’s side might be slowly developed and could appear in some form further ahead.

I know you said “recent arcs” but I hope you will allow me to go back a bit to other arcs as well to explain what I mean.

In my opinion I don’t think it’s impossible that Oda has escalated Sanji and Nami’s interactions and highlighted their interest and worry of each other for a long time now. Of course it’s always been there, even back in Arlong Park, Drum Island, Skypiea and of course Enies Lobby and Thriller Bark. Often Oda has paired the two together or at least made one chase or help the other. As Oda once put it, after he draws Nami it’s simply natural that Sanji follows (Watch video at 46.40). And this might be partly a joke, but we also know it’s true and we have many good interactions between them in most arcs.

What I think is that during Fishman Island, Punk Hazard and Dressarosa Oda started the more obvious set up with Sanji for Whole Cake Island and what was to come with his family and backstory. What Oda did before WCI with Sanji was to set up and remind the readers of four things in particular; his kindness, his doubt in his value to the crew as more than a chef (as part of his sacrificial nature), his chivalry and lastly even his character's “chance” for romance. I think Oda brought back these things to remind us clearly who Sanji is and what he is about before his fate during Zou and WCI was revealed. The fact that Oda has used Sanji in two romantic plots with first Viola and then Purin and with both of them ending up liking him despite their initial goal and them turning to the aid of the strawhats because of him says a lot on its own.

So why does this matter for the development of SaNa? Well, first of all Sanji was clearly seen leaving both these women behind for Nami in particular. We even saw Purin’s reaction to SaNa specifically. Of course one could say it’s simply to foreshadow Purin liking Sanji and it being read as jealousy, but in the end it’s still Oda drawing Sanji with Nami happily in his arms after everything they have been through.

I’ve said it before but I don’t think Oda keeps making moments like this at random. Nami has been there in several pivotal moments for Sanji, and she and Sanji have in many instances been placed together to add to the other’s story or highlight the other’s character traits. For many of the plot set-ups with Sanji prior to WCI Nami was there to explain or show it to us readers.

For example saying Yonji is nothing like Sanji or through her doubting the Sanji clone is really him due to him not helping them.

Other characters also mention often how kind Sanji is and honestly I think people need to remember that this is a trait Oda sees in Sanji and keeps mentioning. I say this because in the WCI arc in particular Oda portrays Sanji as a good potential love interest and a very good person in general. A lot of anti-SaNa fans seem to think Nami sees no positive traits in Sanji, despite Oda writing Nami saying good things as direct opinions from her that she has about Sanji. Clearly she sees a lot of good in him despite his flaws and Oda had her point it out clearly.

We also know Sanji has risked or straight out sacrificed himself for Nami many times, but she has most times not seen it or even known about it. Of course she cares about her nakama and Nami has been used in this way before (and with other crewmembers as well), but even so I think Oda’s focus on Nami in particular is there to clearly show us her image of him before everything unfolds in the Zou and WCI arcs after. He is someone she can trust and depend on, a savior and protector, and she doesn’t want to see him get hurt.

We even got Nami coming out of hiding in Zou because she was worried. Not to mention she willingly goes to a Yonkou territory for Sanji’s sake, and actually she is insisting on following despite being told no at first. She also defends Sanji against Zoro and gets offened on his behalf and is in general the main driving force behind going to save Sanji.

Another rather subtle change from Oda (though noticable amongst SaNa shippers for sure) is the increased amount in touching between Sanji and Nami. Something that has been seen through several cases in WCI, and that continued on to Wano as well though most of it was Sanji carrying many people at the same time.

I also think WCI could have been a turning point for Nami’s feelings even though she isn’t showing it openly yet. Maybe she will keep being tsundere about it until the end, or maybe she isn’t really aware of her own feelings herself yet. I could also be reading things wrong. But I don’t think we should underestimate Oda adding one sign of Sanji seeing mutual affection, one joke about a proposal and a possessive claim of Nami being “his”. Because Oda likely won’t write something like this for no reason, and though two of them are hidden behind gags, it’s a change compared to earlier moments that are similar.

I am actually writing a small theory on this and how Sanji might sense Nami’s feelings slowly changing for him through his observation haki. I would love to talk about it more because I think this could be Oda’s way of changing things very slowly without making it obvious, but I kinda think it needs a post of its own.

I think that either Oda will keep adding these small types of moments but not really commit to making anything official until the very end, or if we are lucky, he will write more to build on the conflict in WCI and what Nami knows about Sanji to add some bigger moments between them. But I doubt any of it will be any type of confirmed relationship as I don’t think Oda will want to change the strawhat dynamics until the series is ending.

(Though Purin coming back is also likely happening and I think that is definitely going to show us if Oda has intentions for San/Pu to develop to something more or not.)

Anyways, to sum it up I think Oda’s way of writing SaNa and adding more touch and things like that between them is a sign for SaNa to possibly happen further ahead. But I think Nami is still either tsundere or maybe even unaware of her feelings, and Sanji is sensing them but letting things stay the way they are. I think Oda might be stalling so he doesn't have to write actual romance or change their interactions too much. Does that make sense? So Nami’s feelings are right now mostly manifesting through Sanji sensing them change slowly, basically. Hence comments like “My Nami-san” only happening in Wano despite Sanji being the way he is since the very beginning. At the very least Oda has definitely given SaNa a lot of great looking moments in the New World and I hope he will keep it up.

I could probably go into more details or examples, but I hope I kind of answered your question at least. I know I wrote a lot more about the first topic, but like I said that was a lot easier and more straightforward.

I hope this was all an interesting read for you. Either way I want to say thanks for asking it though, because I had a lot of fun writing this.

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phantasyhalation · 8 months

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1. Which Touhou characters would be newtypes, and which would be cyber newtypes?

2. Worst dresser in Touhou?

Well, Sumireko is a Newtype. ZUN just has the good sense to realise that the Evolved Human has holes in its brain from imageboard discourse overload. ...that's very uncharitable to poor Miss Usami. But the point stands! Reimu is the closest we have to the Ideal Newtype, I think, given her sensibilities and distinguished knack for placation. Occupies a similar role in the lore, too. Shikigami are the modified and uncanny beings you're looking for on the second, but you're gonna be hard-pressed to find many tortured and ruined soldiers under bureaucratic control in Gensokyo—most of the ones who come to mind are already servants or thralls, and very good at their jobs. Marisa would absolutely do that shit to herself for the grind, though, if she didn't consider it a step beyond her egotistical standards. Please don't institutionalize magician nonsense!

Chiyari, obviously. What a freak. ...that's too easy, though. Sanae still wears an outfit picked out by her mothers at 30, which I feel is pretty dire.

#asks #latency.txt

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originspeed · 8 months

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Seen a lot of Touhou shipping discourse recently and I'm not gonna get into it but, have you considered the fact Sanae x Biten is really cute and silly? Really makes you :think:

#touhou #東方project #please draw them #there's not enough art

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udo0stories · 1 month

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tobiasdrake · 9 months

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Ms. Marvel's going to be another one of those entries into the MCU. The ones where there's a lot going on here that I'm not qualified to talk about. This show delves into Muslim culture and Pakistani history, with central themes surrounding respect for family and heritage. It's a story about Pakistani Muslim identity coming from the heart of Pakistani Muslim creators like Sana Amanat and Bisha Ali.

And so, much like other pieces of Marvel media such as Black Panther or The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, my ability to engage with the stories and conversations taking place at the heart of this media is limited by my background. I'm on the outside looking in through a window into a world that I do not and cannot truly know, in the way that someone who's actually lived these experiences does.

So. Y'know. If you want a real, thorough examination of how this show connects to the experience of being Pakistani and Muslim, you should go hear it from the mouths of people who are those things. There are many of them having those conversations right now.

Just a quick search right here on Tumblr brings up discourse from Muslims upset that Nakia's hijab was watered down for a more Westernized aesthetic. That's something I couldn't even have noticed, let alone opined about, because it's something you need a strong understanding of the culture to discuss.

So. Y'know. I'm gonna do what I do, and watch Ms. Marvel and talk about the things that watching Ms. Marvel inspires me to talk about.

But please don't let me be your only window into the discourse surrounding this show. I'm only visiting. There are real people who live here.

#marvel #marvel cinematic universe #ms marvel

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childofaura · 9 months

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Since we’re putting the ask about Ryan Bartley on hold…

What do you think of Laura Stahl? She did Tanya and F!Alear.

Outside of it, she’s Mary Skelter’s Otsuu, Mami from Rent a Girlfriend (which btw Laura went through the same thing Anairis did with the discourse), Sanae Aoi and her son Koki from The Yakuza’s Guide to Babysitting (great anime and manga btw), Babara and Xiyan from Genshin Impact and lots more.

Oh and forgot to tell you this, but she’s also Khoi Dao’s girlfriend too.

… They did the same thing to her too? That’s so stupid, this is why I hate Twitter… Which role was it they were calling her out for?

Anyways, Twitter bullshit aside… I like Laura’s work for Tanya! For Alear, it’s a little harder because they released the units before the game came out, so they didn’t give her lines a lot of personality. I think if we had heard some lines about the Corrupted, Lumera, or even more about Marth specifically, it would have helped her more.

So, performance. For Tanya? Perfect. She’s outgoing, energetic, her voice fluctuates in tone especially when she talks about her dad, and her lines regarding Osian have the right level of anger to them. She kind of reminds me of Leonie, so it’s definitely a good performance. Regarding Alear: like I mentioned above, if her lines had more to do with what happens in the game and being less vague and spoiler-free, I think her performance would have been better. As it is, her personality in Heroes is… bland. In Engage (from the short amount of time I heard it before switching to the Japanese voices), she sounded quiet, timid, and almost traumatized (I mean she WAS traumatized but you know what I mean), which really gave Laura an opportunity to give Alear some personality. So I’m hoping maybe with an alt, her next Alear performance will be better. That’s not on her though, that’s more on the line writers/translators.

I think she was a great pick for both, and again, nothing wrong with her Alear voice.

Now range is… well, Tanya and Alear are pretty similar in the quality of voice. I can’t really fault Laura though, Tanya and Alear are around the same age so it’s hard to really get any range.

Overall, I think Laura’s an 8/10. I don’t know when we’ll see a Tanya alt, but just wait until next summer and we’ll see a summer Alear. I’m not even joking, that’s my prediction for when she’ll next pop up.

#Fire Emblem Heroes #FEH #ask game #Laura Stahl #Seriously I might go apeshit if I hear one more “An actor was treated poorly because people hate white people or anyone who doesn’t sound-#- Like a stereotype.”#It’s just another form of bullying

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magicaldogtoto · 11 months

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The few past days of seeing discourse regarding Neil Gaiman and fanfiction reminds me of that time back in 2020 when a few MagiReco RPers and I did a thread where Sana got fused with the Anonymous AI Rumor and became an Uwasa like Uwasa Tsuruno.

And then a few months later Rumor Sana was revealed in the game.

The difference is that none of us were presumptuous enough to assume the people working on the game somehow knew about our RPs. If anything, it was an obvious plot that would be used at some point (fusing people to Rumors was a thing in canon, and Sana had a platonic relationship with an Uwasa).

At most we all just laughed about it and moved on. We were basically doing fanfic, after all.

#magia record #madoka magica #magical girl #fanfic #my posts #text #sana futaba #neil gaiman

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misswoozi · 3 months

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I'm down for some solo twice discourse! I feel like I barely talked about girlgroups so far so let's change that! Who in Twice enjoys riding a pillow? Who prefers toys? And who enjoys just their hand? -🎀

OH HECK YEAH, LET'S DISCUSS

pillow: Jeongyeon, Tzuyu

toys: Mina, Jihyo, Nayeon

hand: Dahyun, Sana, Chaeyoung, Momo

#thank you!!#bow anon #twice smut

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selamat-linting · 4 months

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indo lit rant under the cut

the thing about sastra wangi as a genre is that it really is just another way to shoehorn all of literature written by women in the same box. they argue its not just the women pen name but its because the feminist undertones and the tendency to straddle the line between cheap shock value and meaningful exploration when it comes to writing about female sexuality.

tapi ya, youre a clown if youre putting saman and catatan hati seorang istri in the same genre. memang ada tema-tema keperempuanan tapi kesamaannya itu aja! hell you can even argue catatan hati is actually somewhat anti feminist with its religious perspective on gender and marriage. chapter (aku lupa klo gasalah di buku ke empat kah ke tiga ini?) dimana si nadia ini interview seorang laki-laki soal urusan poligami itu bener-bener masuk ke ranah "yah laki memang gitu mau di gimanain lagi orang udah dari sana nya". itu bukan feminis njir. but like, thats not a discourse i want to get into right now. but this brings me to my next point, that a lot of the religious romance books shoehorned into the sastra wangi ghetto is not sexual at all. paling parah ya, itu ada adegan si protagonis di lepas hijabnya pelan-pelan sama suaminya habis nikah. rambutnya keliatan, di elus, terus si mba nya di kecup di kepala, baru mereka solat zuhur. the end. horny darimana??????

even the so called "shockingly sexual" sastra wangi books aren't that horny? like, they do talk about sex, but i dont feel like its self indulgent the way sastra wangi is framed by some literary critics. it doesnt seem like the author actually enjoyed the bits of smut theyre writing. take for example, cerpen mereka bilang saya monyet (not the movie!), the sex are only implied and mentioned, and is a way for the characters to degrade themselves. the protagonist is dehumanized as she is looked down upon even though they fucked with her just like the others, she's just self aware about it. you can even say its prude-ish? compare this with a whole lot of books written by men where the sexual undertones in their plots serves more of a gratituous eye candy for the author.

and finally, there are great books that is technically in line with sastra wangi's original definition but since its written by a man, they didnt label it as sastra wangi. another example im bringing in is tuhan izinkan aku jadi pelacur. they discuss religion, sex and gender almost like a brilliant fusion of the smutty social realism side and religious romance side of sastra wangi put together. but its just labeled as a plain ol' social critique book. im pretty sure a lot of feminist sastra wangi novels and cerpen are all poignant social critique on their own right. why are they cloistered one with the religious romances and bodice ripper novels?

#indoposting

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inmyarmswrappedin · 2 years

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Yeah because systemic oppression of queer communities for millennia means it’s understandable when members of those communities sometimes act out/react badly. Mailin has every privilege in the bag so of course flaws aren’t so easily forgiven

Hi anon! 🧇 Ngl I thought this ask was going to go in a different direction, one that was going to make me complain a lot more lmao.

I was talking about badly written seasons specifically. I'm not talking about queer characters (or any kind of minority characters actually) behaving badly. I love Isak and he was an asshole to like 95% of people he came across. Cris was also an asshole. Kieu My was a bystander to bullying and pulled some dick moves in s5 and s6. I hate to even put Ava in this paragraph, but when she had a personality, she didn't just exist to be Mailin's hypewoman, she had her own motives and pain that meant she didn't say "you go gurl!" to every stunt Mailin pulled. Lol of course members of oppressed communities aren't always precious angels, but we as a fandom give wayyyyyyyyy more leeway to white/light-skinned queer characters than we give cishet (or otherwise) characters of color.

We also give more leeway as a fandom to ASSUMED queer white characters, as we saw during s6 when the Druck social media team had to DEFEND Ava in youtube comments because commenters were massively siding with Mailin. And it wasn't just on youtube. Here on tumblr many people gave Mailin every benefit of the doubt even when Druck kept showing that she was more focused on coming across as the wokest person in the room, than on actually being a good friend to Ava and Fatou. And that was because even in s6, Mailin was assumed ace or sapphic or both. Same with pretty much every Sana/Vilde conflict. Vilde and remakes were given a lot of leeway because people thought she was sapphic. (And to be clear, I think a queer reading of Vilde makes a lot of sense. I'm not saying people are wrong for thinking Vilde is gay. I'm saying that because we/people think Vilde is gay, Vilde enjoyed a loyal fandom who defended her in fandom discourse.)

So if I'm fine with some queer characters behaving badly, why am I not okay with baby Robbe and Isi and whoever else? Well, because they're fictional characters first of all. Ideally, the character arc of a Skams main will be about ("you know what that is?") GROWTH. Isak was taken to task for pretty much every shitty thing he did, and eventually he learns to be more patient and generous (in his season anyway lol, s4 is a bit more complicated) as shown in week 10 when he's a completely different person to Vilde, and lets bygones be bygones with Emma. Likewise Cris was slapped across the face with the consequences of her actions until she made more efforts to understand the people around her and focused on giving them what they needed. Nora G realized that she'd been going through life thinking she had it all figured out, when abusive relationships are more complex than she thought looking at them from the outside. I do not think Robbe was given a character arc that addressed the bits the writers decided to add for funsies, like accusing Sander of abuse or the hate crime. Isi's redemption arc after bullying their childhood friend is, lmao, nonexistent. The love story with Sascha is perfunctory, Sascha and Lou were included because the season had too many poc as leading characters, and Sascha really only exists to make sad faces when Isi once again mistreats him. Then they're given a happy ending as well as the compulsory sex scene.

So you said Mailin's flaws aren't so easily forgiven, and I will say, depends on the viewer. If Mailin has every privilege in the bag, then Sporty Spice has one more. And yet I had to see on the tag a post about how op actually prefers Sporty to Mailin and thinks he's a more compelling character and his season would've been better. The thing is though, with this writing, Sporty would've been just as flat of a character and any storylines just as "how do you do fellow kids". But people like op would've loved it anyway because the actor is so cute. And there are plenty of people (see: youtube commenters circa s6) who still think Mailin is fucking great and think those that attack her are misogynists and "reverse racists" and "fake woke" and "looking for something to hate".

My conclusion being that of the post I already made. Eva Mohn also had pretty much every privilege in the bag, but her season was well written, her character arc made sense, her flaws were addressed, and the character (and by extension, the teens who Eva represented) were validated wherever she was right. And if Druck absolutely had to rob Ava of her well deserved season, the least they could've done was deliver a good Mailin season. And they didn't.

Edit: Also like I said on the tags to a reblog, I don't even place most of the blame on the writers. Q3 were also criticized for a bunch of issues in s3 and s4, but they decided to get educated, invite a diverse film's collective (Jünglinge) onboard and try to improve. And they weren't given the chance to complete this gen as they envisioned. If this bunch of writers, who are after all inexperienced, decide to improve and incorporate fan feedback, ZDF will likely get rid of them too. The problem is ZDF, and the writers are perhaps even more expendable than the cast at this point.

#druck #ftr I did enjoy your ask I just want to make sure you keep the stuff I mentioned in mind

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santilozart · 2 months

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Hola chicxs.

Les comparto esté escrito reflexivo, luego de lo ver reacciones y movimientos en redes al rededor de la conmemoración del día internacional de la mujer.

Siéntanse libres de compartir, aportar, o no compartir mi criterio. Con el fin de incentivarnos a una sana reflexión.

Les deseo un excelente wknd.

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Why should we commemorate the international women’s day instead of just protesting?

We need to protest but also celebrate and commemorate.

Just as they seek to raise awareness for the non-commemoration of this day, raising a voice of protest for all that remains to be vindicated for women, society should also be allowed to highlight all the good that they represent, highlighting the important advances that they have achieved and represent in today's society. If mass speeches of generating awareness through protest prevail without this effort to vindicate their rights, with the promotion and dissemination of what they are truly worth and represent in society, massively people would continue to be collectively programmed to promote that things are solved only from the discomfort and negative speeches that promote collective hatred.

We must not simply respect each other from our different ideosyncracies, for the simple fact that everything is relative, we must urge each other to improve everything that already works. We must, from our differences, unify common criteria about what works individually and collectively across the planet, in order to progress, with balance, without remaining in the mere discourse of protest persé or mere positivist discourse, recognizing with sanity our progress and progressing by unifying our thinking criteria at an intellectual and human level, collectively with actions, emotions and concatenated thinking to solve reality. PostiveForward how they teach us in customer service.

Protesting in this and any other area is a right, yes, but it must be done with balance, highlighting the +, building and proposing solutions and being proactive. That is why I commemorate and celebrate this day, highlighting the value of women, because words have power, and it is preferable to use them to build, not to destroy. Improving the discourse and internal dialogue, changes and improves external results, with real actions, without reaching the extreme of toxic positivism or toxic negativism: balance yes, but oriented towards progress. It is true that we all have different backgrounds, but collectively we are united by the same issues inherent to our human nature as rational and sensitive beings who desire quality of life and collective well-being. I would also like to point out that the strictly relativistic perception of life is also dangerous, as it distances us from understanding global concepts and advances that unite us in the understanding that it is to behave well, individually and collectively, which allows us to regulate ourselves as a species, and not to enter into chaos and destruction. It is therefore important to incorporate and deepen the establishment of values, ethics, and even global religious or spiritual concepts that have worked to regulate ourselves and endure over time as a species, incorporating the dualistic or ethical discourse within global discourses and pragmatism in politics.

@Santiloz_art

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¿Por qué deberíamos conmemorar el día internacional de la mujer en lugar de simplemente protestar?

Necesitamos protestar pero también acompañado de celebrar sus avances, alagarlas y conmemorar este día.

Así como se busca concienciar por la no conmemoración de este día, alzando una voz de protesta por todo lo que queda por reivindicar para las mujeres, también se debe permitir a la sociedad resaltar todo el bien que representan, destacando los importantes avances que han logrado y representan en la sociedad actual. Si prevalecen los discursos masivos de generar conciencia a través de la protesta sin ese esfuerzo por reivindicar sus derechos, con la promoción y difusión de lo que realmente valen y representan en la sociedad, masivamente la gente seguiría programándose colectivamente para promover que las cosas se solucionen sólo desde la base. malestar y discursos negativos que promueven el odio colectivo. No debemos simplemente respetarnos desde nuestras diferentes ideosincracias, por el simple hecho de que todo es relativo, debemos instarnos a mejorar todo lo que ya funciona. Debemos, desde nuestras diferencias, unificar criterios comunes sobre lo que funciona individual y colectivamente en todo el planeta, para avanzar, con equilibrio, sin quedarnos en el mero discurso de protesta persé o en el mero discurso positivista, reconociendo con cordura nuestro progreso y avanzando por unificando nuestros criterios de pensamiento a nivel intelectual y humano, colectivamente con acciones, emociones y pensamientos concatenados para resolver la realidad. PostiveForward como nos enseñan en atención al cliente.

Protestar en este y en cualquier otro ámbito es un derecho, sí, pero hay que hacerlo con equilibrio, resaltando el +, construyendo y proponiendo soluciones y siendo proactivos. Por eso conmemoro y celebro este día, resaltando el valor de la mujer, porque las palabras tienen poder, y es preferible usarlas para construir, no para destruir. Mejorar el discurso y el diálogo interno, cambia y mejora los resultados externos, con acciones reales, sin llegar al extremo del positivismo tóxico o del negativismo tóxico: equilibrio sí, pero orientado al progreso. Es cierto que todos tenemos orígenes diferentes, pero colectivamente nos unen las mismas cuestiones inherentes a nuestra naturaleza humana como seres racionales y sensibles que desean calidad de vida y bienestar colectivo. También quisiera señalar que la percepción estrictamente relativista de la vida también es peligrosa, ya que nos aleja de la comprensión de conceptos globales y avances que nos unen en la comprensión de que es comportarse bien, individual y colectivamente, lo que nos permite regular nosotros mismos como especie, y no entrar en el caos y la destrucción. Es por ello importante incorporar y profundizar el establecimiento de valores, éticas e incluso conceptos religiosos o espirituales globales que han funcionado para regularnos y perdurar en el tiempo como especie, incorporando el discurso dualista o ético dentro de los discursos y políticas globales.

By @Santiloz_art

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