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I think I may have fallen in love with Dean Winchester. Its not fair. Its not at all funny. Why do I do this? Fall for the most tragic character who has the most miserable life before dying just as miserably. Well maybe Dean's death was a little less pathetic than I had presumed but still.... gaaahhhhhh the angst.
Just kill me already. I can hardly type through the pool of tears. My fcking throat hurts.
:(((((
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onceuponadream · 1 year
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Happy Easter
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itsscottiesstark · 17 days
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Can we talk about this for a second?
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Do you see his eyes? He hasn't even stepped foot back in Heaven and he's already forming a plan. He's known about The Second Coming for what? 40 seconds?
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This is an angel who means business. He's already 15 steps ahead.
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And I don't know about you, but this is not an angel I ever want to find myself on the opposite side of. I am honestly shitting my pants just looking at that smile. Metatron, you really dug your grave there.
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tardxsblues · 9 months
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key to a successful marriage: always support your partner's dreams even if they are rubbish
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krummholz-go · 4 months
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The Final 15 - Aziraphale’s Perspective
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I see a lot of empathy for Crowley’s experience during the final 15 minutes of season 2 and it makes sense that we feel deeply for him. What he is experiencing is very human - acknowledging the depth of his own feelings, plucking up the courage to say something, having it come out all wrong, feeling utterly rejected, and then walking away in a mix of pain and anger. Who among us hasn’t been there?
But Aziraphale is experiencing something more complicated, something fewer of us have analogs for. Aziraphale has internally acknowledged his feelings for Crowley for some period of time, probably at least since 1941. Michael Sheen confirms this mental state in a NYCC 2018 interview:
“I decided early on that Aziraphale just loves Crowley. And that’s difficult for him because they are on opposite sides and he doesn’t agree with him on stuff. But it does really help as an actor to go, ‘My objective in this scene is to not show you how much I love you and just gaze longingly at you.’”
Unlike Crowley, Aziraphale’s struggle isn’t acknowledging his feelings. His struggle appears to be two-fold: 1) believing that Crowley could ever love him back and 2) even if Crowley did love him, believing a future for the two of them together could exist within the restrictions of his larger world view.
Can Crowley love?
Angels are, traditionally, beings of love. We see Aziraphale embody this time and again, showing kindness and support to almost everyone he meets, including the amnesiac Gabriel who has treated him abominably in the past. He is attuned to love, remarking on how the area around Tadfield “feels loved” twice in Season 1. As for how Aziraphale personally understands and expresses love, he shows his love to others through verbal affirmation and, to a lesser extent, physical touch. There are many examples of Aziraphale expressing his love for Crowley through positive verbal affirmation, typically by praising him for instances where he has been kind, nice, or good. And on the rare occasions when Aziraphale receives verbal praise, he absolutely interprets it as an expression of love, blossoming with happiness.
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But from Aziraphale’s perspective, it may be unclear if Crowley can feel love in the same way. Can demons love? Did he lose that capability when he fell? Crowley can’t feel the aura of love in Tadfield that Aziraphale remarks on, and his reactions to Aziraphale’s praise are always to shrug it off, tell Aziraphale to “shut up,” or in the most extreme case to physically slam him against a wall and get in his face about it. In this last instance he tells Aziraphale, “I’m a demon, I’m not nice. I'm never nice. Nice is a four-letter word.” A four-letter word, like love, that is not in Crowley’s self-defined vocabulary.
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If Crowley can feel love, does he love Aziraphale?
Even if Aziraphale believes Crowley is capable of feeling love, he does not always recognize how Crowley expresses it in the moment. Crowley shows his love for Aziraphale through actions, but Aziraphale often misconstrues Crowley’s motivations. In 1793 when Crowley rescues him from the Bastille, Aziraphale initially assumes Crowley is only there because he is responsible for the Reign of Terror. Similarly, in 1941, Aziraphale’s reaction to Crowley’s appearance is to assume he’s just part of the Nazi gang, saying,“I should have known. Of course. These people are working for you!”
Crowley doesn’t help matters in this regard because he is constantly muting and undercutting his signals to Aziraphale. Every time Crowley expresses his love for Aziraphale through actions - rescuing him, saving his books, even taking him to lunch - he does so in a nonchalant, dismissive manner, indicating he ascribes little value or importance to the actions he has performed. “I just didn’t want to see you embarrassed,” he says when he appears in 1941. And when Aziraphale positively glows with happiness about his books being saved, Crowley tells him to “shut up."On top of these confusing signals, Crowley is almost pathologically incapable of expressing his feelings in the verbal love language that Aziraphale can understand. This is heartbreakingly demonstrated in this scene after the bookshop fire:
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Crowley can’t even say “I lost you.” Instead he speaks of Aziraphale in the third person while sitting in front of him, saying, “I lost my best friend.” The little hitch on Aziraphale’s face when he hears this is just devastating. Who is Crowley talking about? The last conversation they had before this scene was when Aziraphale called while Hastur was in Crowley’s apartment and Crowley said, “Not a good time - got an old friend here.” Aziraphale is left to wonder - is that who Crowley means when he says "best friend?" Crowley is everything to Aziraphale, but what is he to Crowley?
How Would It Even Work?
Even when Aziraphale does get flashes of the possibility that Crowley may care for him he immediately runs up against his second mental block - there is no world he can imagine where they could be together. When Crowley first suggests running off together in the bandstand scene in S1E3, Aziraphale collapses under the thought: “Friends? We aren’t friends. We are an angel and a demon. We have nothing whatsoever in common. I don’t even like you.”
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While he is obviously in denial, Aziraphale is also under tremendous stress in this moment and is desperately trying to hold onto some stability by falling back onto his world view and ideology. In this state he backpedals all the way to “I don’t even like you.” In his understanding of the way the universe is supposed to work, he and Crowley are hereditary enemies and should not even be friends, much less in love. Aziraphale expresses this core belief throughout the series. What kind of existence could they ever have together in reality?
The Final 15
With this as a background, we can better understand what Aziraphale experiences in the final 15 minutes. Even before the Metatron enters the scene, Aziraphale begins to have his fundamental beliefs challenged which puts him off his footing. The revelation that Gabriel and Beelzebub are in love is deeply impactful. When Beelzebub says “I just found something that mattered more to me than choosing sides” and takes Gabriel’s hand, Aziraphale immediately reaches out to make contact with Crowley, a look of incredulity on his face. Here is proof that demons can feel love and that an angel and a demon can carve out a space together. The road may be difficult, but it is not impossible.
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Before Aziraphale can digest this revelation the stakes are ratcheted up: Michael threatens to erase Aziraphale from the Book of Life due to his part in hiding Gabriel. The future that Aziraphale has just barely glimpsed is already under siege. It is at this point that The Metatron enters, offering Aziraphale not just survival and protection, but a version of everything he has ever wanted.
If Crowley is reinstated as an angel, Aziraphale will no longer have to wonder whether Crowley is capable of feeling love. And if they are both angels, there will be no conflict inherent in having a life together. In one fell swoop, the Metatron entices Aziraphale with a future where there are no remaining blockers to an eternal, loving existence with Crowley. It will be “like the old times, only even nicer” because they now have millennia of their shared history to build on together. Of course this logic is horribly flawed and does not take into account at all what Crowley wants, but in the moment it must feel like an enormous gift to Aziraphale.
Unfortunately, not only is Crowley’s reaction to this “incredibly good news” not what Aziraphale expects, the conversation quickly takes a baffling turn for him. Crowley shuts down the talk about returning to heaven and attempts to say what he wants to say. Sadly he once again utterly fails to speak in a way that Aziraphale can understand.
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The audience knows what Crowley is trying to say because we have the context of his earlier conversation with Maggie and Nina. But Aziraphale lacks that and thus can’t understand where this is coming from or what it means. Rather than expressing his feelings as Beelzebub and Gabriel did, Crowley recites facts: we’ve known each other a long time, we’ve been on this planet a long time, I could always rely on you, you could always rely on me. He can’t even say the word “couple” when he describes them, referring to them more as colleagues with words like “team” and “group.” And the one time he does try to express his feelings and desires he is physically unable to get out the words: “And I would like to spend—.” He then retreats into his old plea to turn away from heaven and hell and run off together. Nowhere in Crowley’s confession does Aziraphale hear “I love you” or even “I want to be with you.” What he hears instead is what he’s heard multiple times before - Crowley wants to abandon both heaven and hell and default to just the two of them. From Aziraphale’s perspective this will not solve anything for them. They will still be an angel and a demon, at some level fundamentally separated by their very natures.
Having failed in his speech, Crowley then does two things in rapid succession that must be excruciatingly painful for Aziraphale. First, he does the opposite of verbal affirmation by calling Aziraphale an idiot. We have seen Aziraphale become physically radiant in the rare instances where Crowley has praised him, so a direct insult like this must feel poisonous. Then Crowley makes a last desperate attempt to communicate through Aziraphale’s other love language - physical touch - by initiating the kiss. But without context or understanding of what is behind it, Aziraphale can initially only experience it as forceful, angry, and shocking. With more time to parse it I think Aziraphale will come to understand Crowley’s meaning, but in the moment it must feel manipulative and borderline cruel.
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The Results
In a very compressed time frame, Aziraphale has to move quickly and radically through multiple mental and emotional states. For 6000 years he has believed he and Crowley cannot be together. Suddenly, with the revelation of Gabriel and Beezlebub, that foundational belief is challenged. Before he can work through what that could mean for him and Crowley, the Metatron offers an even cleaner solution - they can be protected from retribution and be on the same side again. When Crowley rejects reinstatement wholesale, it makes Aziraphale feel that he and his loving offer of a life together have been personally rejected. Then that rejection is further confused through the shocking experience of the kiss which Aziraphale does not have adequate context for or time to understand and integrate. In his emotional turmoil, Aziraphale falls back on his default crutch for dealing with sadness and anger - forgiveness - which further cuts him off from Crowley. Taken all together, this is a tumultuous rollercoaster of whiplash emotions that pull at every part of Aziraphale's self- and world-views.
Compared to what Crowley is going through, I think Aziraphale is going to have the tougher road in Season 3. Crowley may still need to better reconcile and integrate his feelings for Aziraphale, but Aziraphale has 6000 years of foundational ideology to challenge and evolve to reach a place where he and Crowley can be together as their authentic selves.
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sentientsky · 4 months
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Mark Doty, "The Death of Antinoüs”
neil gay man fuckign knew what the final fifteen would do to us. and yet. 😔
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di-42 · 3 months
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Do you know why tell me you said no is the saddest moment in the history of television? Not because Crowley thought Aziraphale was rejecting his love and the idea of running off together. He hadn't made the confession yet.
Tell me you said no is the saddest moment in the history of television because Crowley thought Aziraphale was rejecting what they already had. Their friendship. The way things had been in the last 4 years, but really in the last 6000 years. The shades of grey.
And I just want to curl up and cry.
Disclaimer (in case you have been lucky enough to not have been bored to death by my posts defending, loving and fighting for Aziraphale with everything I've got yet): I don't think Aziraphale was rejecting him of course. Not his friendship, not his love. Not what they had, not what they could have. But I don't think it's debatable that that's the way Crowley felt.
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cosmicrhetoric · 5 months
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insane ass dynamic??? sherlock asks watson if she actually committed the crime she's being charged with (brutally beating a serial killer to death after he tried to kill her) with full assurances that he'd help her get away with it and she's like "NO. so did you do it?" cause like five episodes ago the two of them had seriously considered murdering him with heroin because he pissed them off so much it would be worth the stain on sherlock's relationship with sobriety and holmes has to be like "omg nooooo nooo i would have told you!"
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poorly-drawn-mdzs · 1 year
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Flashback, warm nights.
[First] Prev <–-> Next
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clicked on the article ONLY to see if they included spn
glad they did
i dont really agree with the Lisa and Ben part but everything else is damn right
burns me up
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sawceelcd · 6 months
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yall have to tell me if im crazy;
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did loki MAKE yggdrasil??? or something to that effect?
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sammydontcrynomore · 4 months
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Ok, this is what pissed me off about the Supernatural finale.
One of the things I loved about this show is its lessons.
And one of the most valuable lessons is that you choose your Family.
If someone is related to you but he/she is nothing but a douchebag, if he/she never be there for you, if he/she is toxic, then it's not your Family.
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And that, that is a fucking deep lesson.
I for example struggled for years bc I thought that if someone is related to me, even if he/she had always been a shitty person, is anyway my family and I owe he/she something.
Supernatural taught me that it's not like that. Supernatural taught me that true Family is who is always there for you, especially during hard times. It's who cares for you, it's who knows everything about you, bad and good things, and still loves you.
And it's not about blood, it's not about being related.
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It's a fucking important lesson that can change the way you see life and relationships.
And then comes the finale.
And everything is erased.
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How painful are these words? After all the things they did and all the people they've met, the Family they've built...
The last Dean's speech is all about him and Sam, ONLY he and Sam. He said that the only important thing is Sam, always been. Period.
And then he goes to heaven and meets Bobby. Bobby was like a father to him and Sam, always helped them and protected them. But hey no time for you, just as I understand how heavens work (and most of all that Sam will come) time for me to go.
He tells Dean that Rufus is here, that his parents are here, and that Cas is here, but nothing and no one is important to Dean.
He just wants to wait for Sam. That's all.
He doesn't care for his parents, his friends, and even for Cas. Cas who is Family, bc he said that multiple times.
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But nothing matters anymore, just him and Sam. He has to wait anyway so why in the hell wouldn't he go to see one of them?
He would care to know if they're ok, if everything is fine. He would go to see and talk to them, telling them everything that happened.
Why they have to erase everything that was built in fifteen seasons?
Of course Dean cares about Sam! Of course is one, maybe even the most, important person in his life but is not the only one! 
Why they erase all the relationships they've built, all the people they care about, the ones who even if they're not blood became Sam and Dean's Family?
This is not the Supernatural I know, this is not the Supernatural I love.
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silena-laney-laney · 21 days
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Dean: Guys, I’ve been meaning to tell you… Cas and I are dating.
Cas, Sam, and Adam: gasp
Dean: Cas, why are you surprised?!
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itsscottiesstark · 13 days
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Is it just me that's so traumatized by the final 15 that now every time I read Aziraphale say "Oh, Crowley" in the fondest of ways IT BREAKS MY HEART EVEN THOUGH IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SWEET MOMENT IN THE FIC?
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kinokoshoujoart · 8 months
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please pray for my husband Rock, the first and only SOS character to experience rapid twink death and age faster than his extremely very biological parents
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based on this meme
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carrylovescurry18 · 3 months
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I just finished watching S2 again and it's very different when you know what happens.
- Aziraphale making all those heart eyes at Crowley basically all of episode 6. Especially after the Gabriel and Beelzebub reveal. Holy. Shit.
- all those tiny glances they throw each other. I am dead.
- I somehow really get Aziraphale, but I also get Crowley. It was just terrible timing....
- it's also so much more painful when you know what happens.
- Even after I've read countless of meta posts I still have some questions about what Aziraphale said.
- Also he kept looking elsewhere during the confession and before the kiss. I'm not sure if he was looking for the metatron. I just have the feeling that we don't have the full picture here. Like something is missing.
- Also Michael Sheen and his face
- The split screen ending credits is possibly the most dramatic ending I've ever seen in anything. The whole feeling of hopelessness and doom. Crowley being so stuck in his one expression while Aziraphale changed expressions a lot. Actually the first time I watched he came across as maniac. Idk but his whole expression in the elevator doesn't sit right with me at all. And then that ultra creepy smile? Idk. I am sad now again. 😭
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