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shinelikethunder · 2 years
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rewatching a Hannibal s2b episode when you haven't in a while is just like.... if they WEREN'T fucking by 2x10 or 2x11, i cannot even imagine what kind of psychosexually deranged intricate rituals must've been happening offscreen to produce that energy. what were they doing, sticking their dicks in each other's cannibal mouths "as a trust exercise" and pretending it still counted as gay chicken?
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Ok, Luz in Eda's jacket, nice, cool, sure, love it but...
LUZ IN THE PIRATE BANDANNA AGAIN!!!
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bi-leigh-bi · 6 years
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I applaud you. You know I keep telling you are one of my fave posters. That wife is lucky to have you. That gifset fucked me up in ways because it kept me going back to 2B. I don’t know if the writers did this purposely with Alec. Alec viewed himself choosing Magnus in season 1 from a white, male point of view. Alec is valid in his reasoning but it confirms to me Magnus will and could loose a lot more. Magnus lost Ragnor right after. Due to a decision made in 2B he was removed from his position.
This will take a minute. All in my feelings. In 2B the Seelie Queen manipulated Magnus and jerked him around like a chain then used his feeling for Alec against him but I couldn’t find the lie when she said Shadowhunters are unreliable and the Clave is worst. Things were worse when his credibility was shot when Alec lied about the soul sword also. I guess my point is Shadowhunters clearly show us white supremacy at work even in the Shadow-World and fans ignore this until 3A.
All of this commentary over a gifset. One thing I see is that Alec is provided with the tools to unlearn his conditioning, training and racism. Again from season 2, is where he really questioned everything. Magnus also sacrificed his magic as well to stop Lilth and helping Alec. I just wonder what the writers will do next. I love Malec but I want more content and hopefully some follow up after 2x12 happened too with the immortality vs mortal vs death. I just want it all.
I’m really hoping for more content. It sucks because they talk a lot about stuff for them but we don’t end up seeing as much of it as I’d like. But it comes down to really believing that the show would thrive if they would focus on the downworlders and on malec. Instead of pushing this white savoir nonsense on us with Jace and Clary. Nothing is going to convince me that it wouldn’t be better that way. 
But I’m always torn between being really critical and disappointed and really loving it because we do get a lot, considering. You know?
But yeah, they’ve shown how the Clave works and how shadowhunters work. But that gif set really hit home that Alec had all these fears, but it’s Magnus who is losing these things that matter so much to him. And I don’t think he thinks twice about it, really. He’s a good man with a good soul and he loves Alec. And its not even like I don’t think Alec loves him, because god he loves him so much. But I do want him to really look at Magnus and see what he gave up and really feel something about that. 
But in the end I really feel like the show does 87% well by Malec. Like there’s hiccups and room for improvement, but they’ve given us a good and healthy love story, and that always makes me happy. And while the audience tends to forget the importance of this being an interracial relationship the writers- mostly, mostly, not always DEF not always- don’t. 
Also, omg, thank you. Lol. Hear that, @laurelsalexis, you are lucky to have me. No, we are both lucky and I love her sfm. 
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singingwordwright · 6 years
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can you talk a little about what brought you, as a published author, back to writing fanfic. also what was your inspiration for your One Easy Answer fic/universe?
Hi there.
I’ve pretty much always been a fanfic author, ever since that day when I was 12 when my current beta @roseglass asked me how I would re-unite two ex-lovers in a story and thus began our six-year journey of writing Riker/Troi fanfic long-hand and snail-mailing it back and forth to each other after she moved away.
So it’s not like I ever intended to turn my back on writing fanfic, even once I published some of my original work. These days there’s a lot of crossover between the two, and my publisher, in particular, @riptidepublishing, specifically seeks out authors of fanworks and was started by someone who is very active in fandom.
For a few years, my mind was more in a place of generating original stories than it was in fanfic mode. Now the pendulum has swung the other way, in part because I’ve lost–or at least misplaced–my ability or desire to write sex scenes, and erotic romance was sort of my wheelhouse as an author so now I really can’t produce the sort of content most readers of my original works would expect from me. When I do get back into original writing, unfortunately it’s probably going to have to involve starting from scratch in a new genre with a new pen name to make a break from those expectations.
In the meantime, though, there’s this lovely show and this lovely ship that has brought me back into fan writing and consumes incredible amounts of my creative energy. And at least I’m writing something (also the last time I was this inspired with my fan writing, it ended up sparking my inspiration for original writing, which I’m hoping will happen again.) 
Now, as for what inspired the One Easy Answer concept/universe, the short answer is that I emailed @roseglass one day and said “I want to write an arranged marriage AU that isn’t, like HUGELY AU, it’s still mostly canon, but with a twist” and she said “that’s a fine idea, go for it!.” (Actually, it may be more accurate to say I wanted to READ a mostly-canon arranged marriage AU and realized the only one I could find had long-since become an abandoned WIP so it was down to me to write it.)
And in truth, I never got that thing I wanted initially. I WANTED a situation where Alec and Magnus didn’t become familiar with each other or fall in love until after they were married. But if I wanted that and still wanted to keep it close to show-canon, I would have had to have them getting married…oh, around maybe 1x04 or 1x05?
Like, I imagine the scenario would have been that the backlash from the Clave over the unsanctioned raid on the Hotel Dumort came in the shape of the Clave being afraid that Robert and Maryse’s children were going down the road of Nephilim supremacy the way their parents had, conducting “special missions” the way the Circle had, and in order to prove that wasn’t the case, Alec had to marry a Downworlder. That’s how that story would have looked, if I’d gone that route.
But for some reason, that premise didn’t occur to me until later. What occurred to me at the time I decided to write this arranged marriage AU was that I needed to pull one thread from the tapestry, and watch how it unraveled.
I’ve always been a tremendous fan of the idea of parallel universes, or that a universe exists in which each possibility to becomes reality and redirects the course of events in that universe (this is probably the teenager who got her first exposure to genre TV with ST:TNG popping up, actually.)
So I wanted to construct a universe in which the split point between show!canon and my!canon was Magnus backtracking on his promise that he wouldn’t approach Alec about their relationship again.
Now, I adore 1x12, don’t get me wrong, but let’s be honest. Ghost!Ragnor (or Magnus’s imagined construct of his recently deceased friend) convincing Magnus to change his mind and try one more time was almost bordering on deus ex machina. At least, so it seemed to me.
Like, we’d never seen anything in the show indicating that Magnus–or anyone else–tended to get wise counsel from ghosts, nor had we seen anything indicating that Magnus tended to have imaginary discussions with his lost or absent friends. So this idea that he was conferring with Ragnor and it shifted his determination to let Alec go after his last attempt to talk to Alec had failed, was…highly convenient and sort of came out of nowhere. It was the last-minute miracle solution to an unresolvable dilemma.
So I decided to explore what would happen if Magnus had stuck to his guns. Maybe he never received his visit from the Ghost of Warlocks Past, or whatever. But Magnus never wavered in his determination not to pursue Alec any more. 
Now, the first question is: would that mean Alec didn’t call off his wedding? Possibly, and I’m sure there could exist yet another parallel universe in which he didn’t. Maybe I’m cheating a little, but I like to believe that even without Magnus there, staring him down, Alec would have come to his senses before he crossed the point of no return.
So yes, Alec called off his wedding.
The next event where we might have seen ramifications of Magnus not interrupting Alec’s wedding is in the scene where Alec walks in on Magnus and Camille. 
Magnus, not having had the recent refresher course from ghost!Ragnor on why Camille is Pure Evil, is probably much more vulnerable to her manipulations and less wary of her. Maybe even inclined to seek comfort from someone he once had feelings for, no matter how bad he knows she is for him. He’s perhaps not going to be as unwilling a participant in that kiss as he was the way things happened on the show.
Which is what majorly shifts things into parallel reality territory, because it puts a rather effective kibosh on Alec approaching Magnus and saying, “hey, you were right, I chose not to go through with the wedding, let’s see where this thing we have between us might go.”
Because imagine how Alec was feeling that day after his wedding. Like, yeah, he’s concerned about the Hodge running off and giving the Mortal Cup to Valentine thing, but setting that aside, he did it! He cancelled his wedding. He came out to his parents. He prioritized his own happiness. He’s got to be chomping at the bit wanting to run to Magnus, tell Magnus what he’s done, and ask for another chance. But when he finally gets the opportunity to see Magnus again, he finds Magnus in someone else’s arms.
Ouch.
From there, it’s a cascade effect, isn’t it? Alec, hurt and stinging, is going to want nothing to do with Magnus, so all the events of season 2a feel the ripple effect of them not only NOT building their new relationship, but actively avoiding each other whenever possible.
Sure, Magnus keeps Alec alive in 2x03, but probably only because Izzy begged him to and because he feels guilty over what happened with Camille. Alec doesn’t nearly kill himself in 2x08 because he’s not being influenced by the spell at Magnus’s party, but he and Clary have still not found any sort of conciliation after Jocelyn’s death. Without the framework of their relationship, Alec remains ignorant of Izzy’s yin fen addiction because Magnus doesn’t clue him in during the events of 2x09, which means nothing stops Raphael feeding on Izzy that night, which becomes its own very dangerous situation. So now these events between Alec and Magnus have influenced events between Raphael and Izzy because without his confrontation with Alec, Raphael doesn’t have any reason to confess his feelings for Izzy. And so on, and so forth.
I just find it a fascinating study in how one event can influence so many other, and that’s really where the inspiration came from.
I deviated a bit farther from that original “one event causes ripples that influences others” mission statement in A Separate Peace, because for one thing, some of the events of season 2b (like the body swap plot) wouldn’t have worked in the canon I had established. Also, after season 2b, I decided one thing that was really missing on the show was character agency. So I decided to take an approach where the characters drive the events instead of vice-versa.
I also decided to make it an attempt to fix things that were bothering me about the show, such as the fact that the show leans heavily on “situationally convenience incompetence” (and hyper-competence, at times) wherein a character either becomes a total blundering idiot or the most awesome person to ever do A Thing depending on how tidily it moves things along in the story. 
Alec being more competent in his due diligence to vet Sebastian doesn’t actually CHANGE anything, except that it shows just how terrifyingly devious Sebastian is. Alec being competent forces Sebastian to be MORE competent. Which is frankly awesome because that’s the way it should be. You shouldn’t have to force your heroes to be dolts in order for your villains to pull the wool over their eyes. You just need your villains to step up their game and be that much craftier than your heroes.
I decided in A Separate Peace to fix the fact that there seemed to be storylines for Aldertree and Robert Lightwood that might have been set up initially, but never went anywhere, either because the show didn’t have time to include them, or because the actors were unavailable. If you’ve read my metas there were some really obvious clues laid down in both cases and there was just…no follow through. It was frustrating and I had the ability to work all that in and frankly it was some of the best plotting I’ve ever done.
The final thing I decided to tackle with A Separate Peace was the fact that the obligatory adherence to book canon relationships is getting in the way of the fact that, on the show, the characters are demonstrating insane chemistry that those pro forma relationships will never allow to flourish.
Wow. This ended up being really long. Sorry, nonny. I hope this answered your question?
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antthonystark · 7 years
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Mavra! I wanna know what you have in mind of what shadowhunters will do with the Seelie Queen, based on what they've delivered with new characters. I'm very intrigued at how they will showcase the Seelie Real and the queen. What do you think?
hello! 
ooh that’s really interesting, because it’s almost shrouded in this mystery, i feel like - i guess because it’s such an important point in the books that they don’t want to reveal too much about how they’re going to approach in the show, so really, anybody’s guess is as good as mine. 
based on whatever else the show has done though, i don’t think we’re going to see the seelie queen in a role as, for lack of a better word, antagonistic as we did in the books, when we first meet her. i’m really inferring this based on meliorn, whose character is morally ambiguous both in the book and in the show, but in the show we see more of him helping the protagonists, and when he does go against them (e.g. suggesting killing clary) it’s not depicted as antagonistic or (too) morally dubious, but more so as a very politically-minded action.
so based on that i think with the seelie queen/court we’re going to see a more political edge to it and to her (political in the way of in-universe shadowhunter/downworlder politics, not real life lol) that’s more nuanced, in the way that the show has been depicting a lot of the downworlders and their specific groups and organizations. maia is another good example of the way the show has done this with new characters - in the show, she’s kind of become the most significant voice of the young and disenchanted downworlder living in a society of shadowhunter supremacy, in the way that she interacts with luke and the NY wolf pack, much more so than maia was in the books. 
and as for her relationship with sebastian, i don’t know how much of it we’re going to see in s2, because ostensibly we’re still dealing with valentine as the antagonist, and the seelie queen doesn’t align herself with sebastian until valentine is out of the picture (and i feel like a lot of, if not all of, s2b is going to have sebastian as “sebastian verlac” to our protagonists rather than “sebastian morgenstern”). but who knows? maybe some foreshadowing thereof. again, even sebastian’s role and the extent of his involvement in 2b is something of a mystery, so i’m just really taking shots in the dark here lol.
in terms of stuff like the actress and the sets, again, your guess is as good as mine! they’re not showing us a whole lot, but based on the rest of the sets and costuming and effects for season 2, which have been STELLAR, i’m really, really excited to see how they visually portray the seelie realm. 
i’m sorry, this is basically just a whole bunch of disjointed rambling. but i’m really, really excited to see the seelie queen and the seelie court realized on the show. i think they’re really going to do it justice and i can’t wait. :)
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shinelikethunder · 3 years
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the way Will's revenge dream in 2x09 Shiizakana was literally about harnessing his relationship with Hannibal (or rather, harnessing its dream-manifestation, the ravenstag) and using it to capture and annihilate Hannibal
and the way even Will's subconscious had Hannibal telling him "this is not a revenge you can carry out on hatred alone. if you want to get close enough to me to destroy me, first you have to love me. you have to understand and accept my love for you. only when you can see the best in me alongside the worst will you have a clear enough view to take your shot."
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shinelikethunder · 3 years
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fic snippet: mercy is all you get
written for a Hannibal season 2b fic I may or may not ever finish, and I can't for the life of me figure out where it fits. so, making it Tumblr's Problem Now.
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"When you fantasize about using these hands to murder me, is it your goal to inflict pain? Or simply to end me?"
Will closed his eyes, sinking into one of those fantasies. At length, he said, "I don't enjoy the thought of you in pain," and sounded almost surprised by that. "But I don't go out of my way to spare you from it. If you just closed your eyes and vanished without having to stare your own end in the face, it wouldn't be right. It's about... "
"Justice?"
"Retribution would be a better word."
"An eye for an eye."
"A murder for a murder. When you murdered Abigail, did you go out of your way to spare her from pain? The Chesapeake Ripper showed that much mercy at least to Miriam Lass."
This time it was Will's turn to land closer to the mark than he could know, but Hannibal controlled his reaction and answered carefully. "Abigail suffered no pain at my hands." Will was still playing games of provocation - questions shocking in their brazenness, fishing for an admission overt enough to be used as leverage. To what end, Hannibal still wasn't sure.
"Just like her father, then. Loving right up until the second he wasn't. His idea of mercy."
"Is that all it is to love the creature you're bound to slaughter? An act of mercy?" The question came out sharper than Hannibal had intended. Perhaps it was because he knew what kind of creatures it was in Will's nature to slaughter. Whatever was growing between them, it didn't keep Hannibal from catching the sounds of the axe being sharpened in the distance; he would have liked to believe that their friendship was worth more than its ability to keep him trusting and placated all the way to the abattoir.
"Clearly not," Will answered, "because I doubt mercy will be on the menu when you finally serve me up."
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shinelikethunder · 3 years
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can't believe this show went "we're gonna put a bird inside a woman inside a horse.... and it's also going to be Big Symbolism." but they just couldn't help themselves, could they? "one dead creature giving birth to another." Will ripping open the carcass of his previous relationship with Hannibal to make it look like it's about to spawn the beloved, murderous imago of Will that Hannibal has wanted all along... almost warning Hannibal right from the start with lines like "rebirths can only ever be symbolic"...
but the bird - the mutual fascination? - the replacement beating heart... is miraculously still alive the whole time. even after an entombment that should, by all rights, have killed it stone dead. maybe it's not a rebirth, but something in there is still an animating force. something that doesn't need to be reborn, because it never died.
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