#seondeok

[jordeclans]

i need an entire novel about this i'm sorry but one paragraph doesn't cut it for me

#henry cheng #seondeok #declan lynch #trc #tdt #the dreamer trilogy #greywaren

[robobee]

thinking about gansey and seondeok ... underrated dynamic bc gansey hates her ass and she's like. looking at him with this shit eating smug smile because she KNOWS gansey doesn't like her and she KNOWS he's too nice to say it out loud . gansey all prim just sitting there with his cup of tea seething

#the passive aggression... muah #trcposting #seondeok #gansey

[attack-on-tbr]

Sometimes I want to pull a Seondeok: quit my life, go insane for a year and start doing magical crime

#trc #greywaren #ronan lynch #dick gansey #gansey three #maggie stiefvater #seondeok #henry cheng #the raven cycle

[askbishopschildren]

Been waiting for a good time to bring these 5 in and thought now would be good!

(TW for ED mention with Pioquinto and Suiko)

Aphrodite, the queen turned king bee is the brother of Kallamar, Shamura, and Narinder (and by extension Heket and Leshy, but he left before those two were in the picture) that runs his own cult that values beauty above all else! He's quite egotistical, but he does genuinely care at times especially for his deciples (Seondeok and Pioquinto more so since theyre all married). Frankly all of them aside from Seondeok need therapy

Pioquinto is a scholar who acts pretty over confident, however he is constantly self concious about his weight and tries to skip meals no matter what Aphrodite says. Aphrodite makes sure he's getting fed enough.

Seondeok is easily the kindest of the desciples and enjoys helping the newer members alot, even if they are ugly according to the higher ups and are doomed to sacrifice, which she enjoys watching despite her nature. She also often keeps an eye on her fellow desciples so they don't hurt themselves.

Suiko is probably the meanest out of the deciples, but she does enjoy the other 3. She is constantly giving lower level followers shit and ordering them around for the good of the cult. She really needs some kind of therapy, as similar to Pioquinto she has an ED but takes it much further, I won't go into details.

And finally the newest deciple Yu really does not think he deserves the position. He doesn't think his looks match up to the other desciples and at the same time is constantly having an identity crisis. He occasionally forgets that he's a desciple and calls the other 3 by their ranks or something of the like. To say he has horrid anxiety and is embarrassed to high hell when that happens is an understatement.

#cotl #cotl bishops #cult of the lamb #suiko #aphrodite #pioquinto #seondeok #yu

[esrok]

#Seondeok

[seavoice]

so literally only the new fenian has ever been excited to see declan in his life. everyone else is like dammit. this bitch again

#by people I mean his multiple parents. and seondeok. and ronan. and the rest of the gangsey. and hennessy #declan lynch #birdverse

[ganseyenthusiast]

i feel 80% of my henrydeclan content is on some variation of the asexuality spectrum specifically because the one and only time they actually try to have sex they DONT like each other and only vaguely understand that this is something you're Supposed To Do to Indicate Positive Business Interaction and it ends up being horrible for MANY reasons but namely in that they have ONE close mouthed kiss and both of them gag at the same time

#henry: i have feelings for you/declan: i have fe- [narrator(me): the feeling was friendship] #heclanposting #look it takes place in some back room of the fairy market and niall wants to smush their kids together like action figures #without understanding that theyre both real people with human will #seondeok is just thinking about the discount she could get . sighs in asian #trcposting

[dream-thief-forever-amen]

There is nothing in the world I love more than an obsessive unhealthy single-focus romance. I am an OCD kinda gal and YOU and only YOU and what else is there in the world other than YOU romances are my jam. Yes, they are always a disaster. Yes, they always end badly. Yes, they are always 1000000 percent worth it cause while you are burning you are alive.

Anyways, all this to say Till the End of the Moon is buttering my biscuits. I very much approve of how they have stayed on brand with this romance since the first episode. Relief? Moments of reprieve? Sanity?!! Not on my watch, baby. Not even for a second.

I’m gonna have to watch Queen Seondeok after this to imagine Bidam if he were a cultivating anti-hero instead of just the baddest cat on the mat.

#till the end of the moon #tteotm #bidam #tantai jin #my obsessive boys #Queen Seondeok #how am I already on episode 27???

[starrynights23]

Big Canon Alicent Hightower energy. Kdramas and other foreign dramas have better female characters than most American shows.

#lady mishil #queen seondeok #anti hbo #anti hotd #anti alicent hightower

[fromchaos]

seondeok and mor try to get off on cucking niall but it doesn’t even work because he thinks lesbian sex is hot and doesn’t count as cheating

#(seondeok’s husband is also unbothered but he has something entirely different wrong with him)

[robobee]

declan's ramona flowers evil exes list. we are missing TWO to hit 7. who should fill the spot

#declan does not... know... 7 people.. #really debated putting seondeok in there for fruedian purposes but she would never #henry 3 ashleys 1 gansey. hmmm we might just need to do like 6 exes or sth #im trying to get thru scott pilgrim movie this is how i cope

[rughydrangea]

I’m rewatching bits and pieces of Queen Seondeok and I don’t really have anything to say, but what a great reminder that Kim Yushin is my forever man and Kim Deokman is the queen of my heart. I’ve been wondering if I should do a full-scale rewatch (but how can I when there are so many old sageuks on my to-watch list?) just to fully revel in their glory, in the glory of my girl who gave up everything to take and hold her throne and the man who served her unwaveringly. Deokman is THE character for me, a woman who crashes the power structure of a country to take control of it, who leads with strength and compassion and love but completely empties herself out in the process. And Yushin, my man who does the most romantic thing any man could do: he gives up on loving Deokman to serve her, even though he had been ready to run away with her and build a life together. But when he understood that her only goal was the throne, he too threw away love in order to help her achieve it. Like... what more could I ever want?

I suspect that on a rewatch I would have new appreciation for Mishil (who I kind of couldn’t stand, mainly because she was Deokman’s antagonist, but also because when I first watched QSD eight years ago I was less familiar with GJH’s work and didn’t appreciate everything she was doing in her performance) and her very weird blended family situation. But I’m not sure I would like Bidam any better. Yes, my hottest take about this show isn’t that I prefer Deokman to Mishil (by, like, infinity), it’s that I really don’t like Bidam! Like, KNG rules, and Bidam is really fun at first, but the angstier he gets the more boring he becomes to me, and by the time you get to him courting Deokman in the most passionless way possible (I love KNG, I ADORE LYW, but they have like negative chemistry), when for him wanting Deokman is the same thing as wanting to take her throne and her country from her.... No thank you! It’s not romantic, it’s not compelling! And do I really want to live through it again? Like, I’ve watched a few of those scenes, and as much as I love Deokman telling Bidam that he’ll never get her the way that he wants, it’s still kind of annoying to have her endgame love interest be a guy who views her as a rival. 

Maybe I’ll do a grand rewatch one day. I just wish there were more sageuks about queens regnant! I get that history kind of gets in the way there, but still! Maybe the next time we get a fantasy drama à la Alchemy of Souls, the fantasy country can be governed by a queen regnant? As a treat?

#1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #i simply will never love anyone as much as i love deokman #queen seondeok #my commentary #such as it is lol #and yes i am fully aware that me hating bidam for the same thing i love sfd!yi bang won for is hypocrisy #i don't care! #when bang won covets power and plots to steal it from a person of great vision it's okay but when bidam does it it's not! #no further questions! #(now i'm thinking about sfd which makes me think about yai which makes me pretty sad actually) #no here it is: it's okay when bang won does it because he's usurping a man but it's not okay for bidam because he's usurping a woman #i love a good usurper but not when they come for female sovereigns!

[vegaseatsass]

Queen Seondeok spoilers below

Ok exorcising this post from my head before it gets lost in the brain attic instead of articulated. Truly will be of interest to me and only me but I want to SAY THESE WORDS and have a way to reread them months from now. So I don't actually know what the feeling on Nirvana in Fire 2 was in my current fandom circles, but back when I watched everyone was like "meh it's fine but it's no Nirvana in Fire 1" and that is kind of how I feel about the last 10ish episodes of Queen Seondeok after Mishil leaves. Like it's still a really gripping and compelling show but suddenly everyone is a LITTLE stupider and I'm spending a LITTLE more time yelling at the tv screen because all these previously brilliant strategists are taking years to figure out what I, a plebeian, have put together from anvilicious context clues. Suddenly the politics of our heroes are a LITTLE sketchier and we're getting what feels like a LITTLE too much nationalism for my taste*. That's all fine, it's just a drop in quality of writing, still interested to see where this all goes, but the real thing I hated was eps 52-57ish where Bidam...

...went from a delight of a character to an uncomplicatedly manipulative bastard who kept feeling sorry for himself that his grotesque attempts at controlling the object of his obsession were destroying her trust and affection for him. But it wasn't just a consistent personality switch, it was this confusing dynamic where he would be a smirky piece of shit in one scene, then the next he'd be earnestly crying and begging for attention. He would be doing dumb shit that fucked over his queen and nation one scene, then characters would comment on his selfless one-sided love a scene later (the comparisons to Seolwon, who truly did love his evil wife with zero attempts at owning her: I was flabbergasted!). It sucked because he's my fav dude in the show you see! What was the point of him wishing after Munno died to learn to be good at Deokman's side, what was the point of him telling Mishil he'd love in his own way, what was the point of Deokman comforting him beautifully over his mom only for him to choose her over Deokman, are we really going the determinism route where he can't escape his own evil blood? But I tried to make sense of it, like "hey, don't make this already morally flexible guy responsible for corralling all the most toxic people in your court and expect him to come out in one piece, my queen." "Okay, he always just wanted parents and now that he 'knows' his mom who left him on the floor as a baby 'loved him' he has to follow her evil plans after death." (I understood this to be the textual justification but I kinda hated it because he def didn't come across as if he was trying to do his evil filial duty but as if he was trying to follow his evil unfilial dick.) "Well, if Deokman is the hilt for his feral blade or whatever and now she's queen and has to be cold and distant, maybe he's just back in Hwarang tournament mode, causing problems in a desperate bid for attention, rather than because he ACTUALLY BELIEVES destroying Yushin is the path to 'winning' Deokman." I was compelled by a combination of these reasons, but I still missed old Bidam! I missed when he got to be cunning and vaguely amoral and Deokman would go, no we're not going to poison the entire fortress, BUT your idea gives ME an idea! (Instead of like "oh he just went and poisoned the entire fortress w/o me, pinned it on Yushin, and left me to pick up the pieces then cried when I yelled at him for it.")

However!!! Somewhere around ep 57 (sorry I don't have the specific number, we were binging), his personality... switches back?!?!?! Suddenly it's like no time has passed between Mishil's death and this moment, suddenly he is the Bidam Deokman and the audience know and love. Glad to have him back! LOVE that Deokman decided to prioritize keeping him over punishing him for the fuckery of the past bunch of episodes, that is a fun and consistent character choice. But!! I still feel like the writers did not do enough to justify or acknowledge his 5ish episodes of pure fuckery. He didn't just try to knock Yushin out of favor, he failed to stave off the Baekje invasion when they had everything they needed to get the leg up on them. That is something neither Deokman or his mom would have forgiven so easily! And hey maybe Deokman doesn't blame him because the entire court was agitating to bring Yushin down and ignore his information, but it was very frustrating to watch Bidam fuck up that bad for that many episodes in ways that almost wiped out their army and got who knows how many civilians killed, and never be held even verbally accountable. All to try to control Deokman into wanting him, while the narrative kept telling us he just has a selfless crush and some unrelated "manipulative DNA" issues. Well anyway!!! I solved it for myself!!! By deciding!!!!!! He is possessed by Mishil's ghost for those episodes!!! HAHA

It's perfect because everything fucked he was doing was consistent w/ her style of strategy (and it is genuinely more sympathetic to me to try to destroy Yushin for power than for "love"), and it means all the atonal Jekyll moments of earnestness he has in between the fuckery are just actual Bidam coming up for air before his mom's ghost takes the reins again.

More importantly it's perfect because I needed more of a motivation for my absurd time travel fuck-it fic concept (where Deokman travels back to the moment as a trainee where Mishil tells her to take off her clothes, is like, YES MA'AM!!, and then proceeds to seduce her utterly) than "Deokman is sad Mishil is dead and wishes she was around to help hone her as a ruler." Well, ha ha! Now when Deokman gazes into the abyss of the time vortex at the end of her life (don't spoil meeeee for the very last 3 episodes, but I'm p worried that's coming up any minute), and tells the time gods that she wants her shot at a do-over instead of passing into the next life, it won't just be so she can make Mishil love her more than she loves Silla, so Mishil takes her deal to come home w/ her during her coup, it won't just be to try to save Cheonmyeong and Sohwa's lives and get more time with them, it will also be to avert or at least get the leg up on a disastrous surprise war for her country.

This also means if any fuckery does happen w/ Bidam in the remaining three episodes lol I can justify it as "oh well trust was broken between them in 52-57 but if Deokman had exorcised Mishil's ghost - or better yet averted her death with irresistible sex - that never would have happened, and Bidam would get a happy ending too, which she very much wants." I am going to tag this in case I never write the fic, in case another person one day watches this 2009 drama, gets obsessed with Deokman and Mishil's relationship, and also cares overly much about Bidam's character consistency, but I apologize to everyone else who checks the tag, for being such a niche weirdo with tunnel vision. Oh a post about fan favorite Bidam! No it's actually about my Mishil/Deokman agenda... I just think it would be fun for trainee!Deokman to be like "oh, my lady, oh! I'll take off my clothes but now you're going to have another secret to control me with! But I simply can't resist you~~" and like, not actually dispel Mishil's correct suspicions that she was working for the princess at that point, but dangle this delicious opportunity before Mishil to at least compromise that loyal bond w/ sex, all whilst Deokman works to be sexy and mesmerizing enough to compromise Mishil's loyalty to her own dreams. I am prob not talented enough a writer to pull this off ANYWAY lmao, but I think it would be FUN!!! * This was about the Deokman vs. the Gaya plot and that was well worth sticking it out for imo, but my god I got nervous when she was stamping her feet about them not appreciating her enough for the rights she doled out. I guess I was used to Deokman being in the moral right, so I didn't trust that they were doing a storyline where she still had more growing to do. But they did and it kind of ruled imo. EDIT: WE JUST WATCHED EPISODE 60 AND SURE ENOUGH THERE'S MORE BIDAM FUCKERY!!! LOLLLL it's not his fault this time though :( more fodder for Deokman to want a time travel do-over

#queen seondeok #queen seondeok spoilers #are you a true mishil fan if you want her to give up and go home w/ deokman instead of going out like an absolute boss? #idk but i have needs #and some of them are to be able to love bidam w/o qualifications #and some of them are for mishil to preen under the power of being a queenmaker!! #and thus this incredibly convoluted post where i talk to myself was born #next time i post about this drama it will be with a final tally of all my ships #sometimes you just watch something from almost 15 years ago that you need to treat like a megafandom #in your head #even though it is not #dear diary

[mysageukinbio]

You know, I always thought the general negative reaction to daeha dramas post-2008 was a bit excessive but ultimately the result of general trends and personal tastes - but now I've watched Iron Empress, and now... now, I Understand

#empress cheonchu #what a damn shame #anyways stream Queen seondeok #2009

[zahhaxx]

seondeok

gave her a makeover since i'm getting better at making sims and @simnasimsworld made her crown and robe which is a HUGE help thank you SO SO much!!

#sims4 #civ6 #civ vi #civ 6 #queen seondeok #korean sims #asian sims #historical sims

[nikitinha]

“The man that kills me will go down in history!” |

Bidam, Queen Seondeok (2009)🍂

#kim nam gil #kdrama #queen seondeok #bidam #선덕여왕 #김남길