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Tonks: If I die during the operation, will you do one thing for me?
Remus: Anything, sweetheart.
Tonks: Blow up the hospital.
Remus: Hmm. Well... I said I'd do it, so I guess I'll have to.
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Headcanon of the day: Tonks HATES feeling ignored or unappreciated. She often feels this way when Remus distances himself “for her sake.”
Yesss...these were the hardest time in their relationship...Remus struggled so much with the idea of how Tonks will be subjected to the same discriminations that he didn't notice that his distant behavior hurt her more than those prejudice ever could
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saintsenara · 2 months
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Thoughts on remadora?
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thank you very much for the asks, anons!
while they are by no means my otp, i really enjoy remadora as pairing - and i think they’re fully up there among the canon couples in terms of being an amazing vehicle through which to explore all sorts of questions about life and love - which i am aware is a sufficiently controversial statement that it involves an immediate engagement with some discourse…
because remadora girlies [gender neutral] get an enormous amount of shit within the fandom, particularly from fans who consider wolfstar to be a more plausible pairing for lupin than tonks. i have seen remadora shippers called homophobes for simply enjoying the couple, justified with the bizarre idea that it disrespects remus' relationship with sirius [so... the non-canon one?] to put them together. i have seen tonks turned into a pathetic shrew who is trying to keep remus from the real love of his life by trapping him with an unwanted baby. i have seen remadora shippers get a lot of the usual stuff that people who prefer the canon-endgame couples do [that to ship a canon pair is boring, that it is indicative of a lack of talent, that it indicates an uncritical support for jkr] magnified to eleven because tonks has the temerity to be a barrier to remus’ relationship with the fandom’s favourite hot and brooding man.
obviously, this is bullshit - primarily because its unreasonable and cruel to invest so much time and energy being mean to people because of their harry potter shipping preferences [fandom should never be that deep].
but it’s also a disappointment to me personally because it means that it can be very hard to find the sort of remadora i like without looking like i’m coming to contribute to the pile-on. because where many remadora fans and i don’t see eye-to-eye is that i have absolutely no interest in thinking about them as a relationship which is actually functional. and, all too often, i find myself sifting through fics which do prefer to interpret them like this - as romantic and passionate and stable - largely, i think it’s fair to say, as a defensive move against the tide of “urgh, imagine shipping that” nonsense - even though all the evidence of canon is that they are… very much not.
i am aware of the pottermore article which smoothes the edges of lupin’s canonical reaction to tonks’ feelings for him in half-blood prince - but, while i read this as something of a retcon to make the relationship more palatable, i also don’t think that assuming that both tonks and lupin’s attraction to each other was sincere precludes them being as dysfunctional as they canonically are. i don’t go in for the common anti-remadora argument that tonks “forces” him into a relationship with her - it’s clear in half-blood prince that it’s not only her who has discussed her feelings with molly and arthur weasley, lupin is definitely flirting with her when they pick harry up in order of the phoenix, lupin is an adult man [no matter other power imbalances between him and tonks - such as the fact that she is an agent of the state which oppresses him] who possesses the capacity to refuse her advances, and - since teddy’s conception is not immaculate - he has no issue with enjoying a sexual relationship with her even if he then wants to run away from the product of that.
instead, what i like with remadora is that they reveal something which goes against the grain of the rest of the series: that love is not always enough. throughout the seven-book canon, we see time and time again the idea that love - and, crucially, love-as-noble-suffering and love-as-sacrifice - is enough to overcome any problem. entire civil service collaborating with a terrorist regime? don’t trouble yourself, love has won. your mother dying in childbirth leaving you to be neglected in a state institution? your own fault you’re not interested in love.
i understand the genre reasons for this, but i also love the way in which lupin especially exists on the margins of these genre conventions [just as he exists on the margins of wizarding society!]. i’m always struck in deathly hallows that he’s the only person who’s actually realistic about the demands of war - particularly when he tells harry that it is breathtakingly naive for him to think he can get through the fighting without having to shoot to kill - and that part of him having to be shuffled out of the way when harry tells him to return to the pregnant tonks is because, were the story focused on realism, the idea that a wanted man who is considered an unhuman by the state fleeing in order to guarantee the safety of his wife and unborn child becomes eminently reasonable and harry's defense of the nuclear family embarrassingly unradical.
and so i like the idea of lupin seeing tonks - and tonks seeing lupin - initially as just a bit of fun, as the two of them being just two chill single people who think the other is hot and interesting and want to bang because of it.
[which is something fandoms in general really struggle with as a concept. we like epic love stories - and you won't find me objecting to that! - but we're less good at thinking about casual sexual attraction or transient friendships, and how these can be transformative and meaningful without having to end up going any sort of distance.]
and i then like the idea of the relationship being forced into a profundity it doesn’t really have the juice to sustain by the sheer avalanche of grief which besets the two of them - sirius, dumbledore, mad-eye, ted - and by the pressure of the war and the fact that the order is scrambling and the hangover of remus' self-destruction in half-blood prince which makes each cling to the other as a life-raft. i like remadora as something codependent and messy and strange and sad, and i don’t think this prevents it being sincere and fun and based in mutual attraction, but instead that these positive qualities can exist in conjunction with the fact that, without the war, it would have been a summer of fucking and that was probably it.
on tonks herself, i don’t think i can say it better than @evesaintyves in this meta on her character. i’ve been really uncomfortable with quite a lot of stuff i’ve seen recently which has taken against the idea that tonks can be meaningfully read as queer on the basis of what we find in the text, above all because it so often comes with the implication that one cannot imagine her in her canon endgame pairing and presume that she’s something other than straight or cisgender. eve sets out an excellent case for tonks as bolshy and liberated and in tune with herself and fun and confused and in flux and still figuring stuff out about who she is and where she’s going - and this translates, may i say, to an astonishingly beautiful way of writing her, lupin, and the dysfunction inherent between them which i highly recommend you read.
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starrylayle · 2 months
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coming on here to quickly rant abt remadora. Okk yess I know ‘another wolfstar shipper shitting on remadora’ here me out okay!!! Just for a sec!! I read the Harry Potter books for the first time back in 2017 and remadora was my shit. Remus was my second favourite male character and tonks was my second fave female character. (Harry and cho were my first faves — yes I self inserted into Harry and had the biggest crush on cho — yes I cried when they broke up — shut up we all had our embarrassing phases!!)
Anyways back to remadora, I just thought they were so cute together, even tho it felt a little random. But one thing that I remember that really pissed me off was the ship name. I never understood why it was ‘remadora’ and not ‘ronks’. Tonks hated being called Dora!! I remember ranting abt this on my Wattpad acc (yes I know SHHHH) when I was reviewing all the Hp ships.
I don’t ship it anymore (obviously lol) and looking back, I think my issue with the ship name is lowkey symbolic for my key problem with remadora — it basically removes everything that made her interesting in the first place and reduced her to just Another Woman Character in the series. When she got with Remus, she became more mellow, more feminine, more complacent — which are fine traits btw — but that’s not tonks!! Now as I’m older, and re-reading the series, I see a lot of subtext for a gender non-conforming and possibly genderqueer person forced into a heterosexual relationship simply becoz jo didn’t want ppl thinking Remus was gay and coz she had this weird thing abt all ‘good’ women being mothers.
Which brings me to tonk’s pregnancy — I wouldn’t mind a storyline for tonks having a child — I just hate how jkr had to fit it into this whole nuclear family model and get her and Remus to get married. I feel like a more compelling, or at least consistent characterisation would have tonks having a one night stand with Remus after they were both mourning their cousin/uncle/lover’s death. Shit happens sometimes. And it would be interesting to see Tonks and Remus grapple with this and what it means for their child.
Another head cannon I saw on tik tok was that Tonks had a threesome with Fleur and Bill and since polyamory wasn’t socially acceptable she asked Remus to be the stand in legal father — and ofc Remus would say yes coz he’s Remus!! This hc sounded wild to me at first but they all gave me queer vibes and it just makes me happy so now this is the headcanon I stick with lol.
Anyways not every woman has to have a husband and 2-3 kids to be a good person jkr!! Families are complex! Women are complex! And Tonks deserves better imo.
P.s. if you ship remadora that’s completely okay!! This is just my opinion!! I’ve seen remadora shippers who don’t water down tonk’s character/subtextual queerness — I just hate how jkr depicted the ship in canon.
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moonlightdancer26 · 1 month
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Im surprised so many people seem to think w0lfstar is canon. I didn't think about it much before but then I read a few takes on how tonks was brought in to spite the shippers and well. Its 'interesting' to say the least
This was me when I first found out Wolfstar was even a ship 💀 I remember literally not knowing who the ship was about and searching it up and being like “..Sirius and REMUS?? that’s a thing???” I was so confused by its popularity
And I LOATHE the argument that “Dora/Remadora was created by JKR to stop people from shipping Wolfstar” with a burning passion, like do these ppl even think twice before sprouting nonsense? They don’t even have proof that Rowling hates Wolfstar, let alone that she created a canon couple for the sake of spitting a ship’s shippers 💀
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sailforvalinor · 10 months
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“Character who has absolutely terrible self-esteem and has difficulty believing they could ever be good enough to be loved x character who is so smitten with them they may as well have been struck by lightning but thinks they’re way out of their league” is one of the kings of ship dynamics I don’t make the rules
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impossible3girl · 1 year
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On the Remadora age gap:
Considering the fact that Remus and Tonks were wizards with a life expectancy of around 137 if not more their age gap is probably one of the least weird things in the Harry Potter series. Sometimes you just can't judge fiction by real life standards.
In this house we stan Remadora and they are happily raising Teddy.
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boredbook · 9 months
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im back on my "Tonks & Remus as wlw & mlm solidarity" thought train. Remus as the always tired art professor and Tonks as his TA (& favorite student even tho he denies it constantly). they are besties. the first time someone assumes they're dating Remus gags and Tonks literally threatens them and Remus has to be like "uh no dont threaten people with witnesses??? im not bailing ur sorry gay ass outta jail". People assume from Tonks's eccentric outfits that she would take her coffee very sugary but no, she drinks plain dark coffee and actually enjoys how bitter it is. Remus is dependent on sweet herbal teas. If he orders coffee check to make sure he isnt needed in a hospital. Now this might make you think "oh hes the responsible one of the 2" no that bitch is as chaotic as her, he just has chronic pain and doesnt have the fucks to give. the only people who can keep those 2 in line is : Minerva McGonagall, Andromeda Tonks, Hope Lupin, Effie & Monty Potter, Lily Evans, and Marlene Mckinnon (Tonks looks up to Marlene & Remus respects Marls so much for drop kicking a man in a bar for being a dick)
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lovefromremus · 6 days
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why has nobody pointed out the fact that both sirius and regulus were forgotten by their past lovers for another woman? remadora, jily, they could have supported one another. except they didn't have their lover and they didn't have each other either.
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radiohead-spiderman · 2 months
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Quick Remus doodle :)
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fidelioblack · 1 month
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Nymphadora Tonks deserved better than Remus Lupin. She deserved someone who could be fully with her, who wasn't afraid to love her and be loved by her, Someone who was willing to be in a relationship with her.
And Remus Lupin deserved better too. He deserved to have his unwillingness to be in a relationship respected. Yes, he loved her, but love and attraction do not necessarily translate into a desire to be in a relationship with a person. Remus didn't want to be in a relationship, no matter how much he loved Dora (and yes, he loved her), he's too afraid of hurting her and also of being hurt (although he's going to deny that one)
They both deserved better than each other.
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petratherrock · 2 months
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"i dont ship them but i like this art," sometimes sprinkled with "for me this art is just platonic of them"
Ok firstly no one asked
Secondly uhhhh if you don't ship them, literally no one is gonna try to sway you to ship them so why do you have to comment that?
Thirdly, "it's freedom of speech, I'm on a social media, i can say what i want" no you shouldn't. You can just scroll away. You don't even have to waste your joy of seeing the fanart. You're dampening other people's joy of shipping something with your comment, the world doesn't revolve around you. I will break your legs ❤️
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Headcanon of the day:
Tonks often stops at a bakery she heard Remus talk about before meetings to get him one of his favorite pastries. At first, she didn’t even tell him it was her. She’d just leave the treat in the kitchen.
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OMG, this is the cutest thing ever
Remus would find out about this YEARS later and fall deeper in love with his wife
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suhayavishnya · 2 years
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Remus, to Tonks: I put a hat on him, so even if he morphs his hair, it won't be noticeable and we shouldn't be questioned.
Tonks, looking at four-year-old Teddy: Yeah, that should work. My mom always did that, and my parents didn't have a problem with me.
Later, on the muggle playground at rush hour:
Remus, pointing to the bright green ball: Look, Teddy, do you want to play with the ball?
Teddy, changing his skin color for the first time in his life to bright green: ...
Remus, whispering: Fucking hell.
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moonlightdancer26 · 2 months
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URE SO SO SOOO REAL FOR PUTTING TONKS #1 AT HOTTEST HP FEMALE CHARACTERS LIST I HATEEE HOW A LOT OF WOLFSTAR SHIPPERS HATE HER FOR "TAKING REMUS" LIKE WHAT THE FUCK honestly I'd kill both lupin and sirius for her
thanks anon 🙏🏼 all the HP women are on another level of FINE but Dora’s just on a different level istg
also YEAH WOLFSTAR SHIPPERS WHO HATE ON HER ARE SO ANNOYING, last night I saw a slideshow on tiktok saying “your (Remus’s) new girl” with a pic of Dora and the other slide was “is my (Sirius’s) cousin” with a pic of Sirius. Like bae Sirius was never Remus’s girl, Dora was Remus’s only canon love interest. Period.
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