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jazzkrebber · 4 months

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do you ever think about how they went from Matthias dreaming of Nina again to Nina only seeing Matthias in her dreams

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myfriendscallmeraba · 1 year

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Ah the ending.

Alina keeping all her power and not sun summoners popping up everywhere? Perfect

Alina getting all power hungry and getting a bit of shadow powers cuz balance is needed? Perfect

Alina not living on a farm with no purpose after she built it throughout 3 books? Perfect

Alina almost becoming queen? Perfect

Mal setting off on a boat while they both find themselves without each other before they(probably) come back to each other and be endgame? Perfect

Them making mal generally better and making me finally see a bit potential in Malina? Great(tho I’m still here for single powerful Alina)

#I clearly love the change from the sab book ending #and no I will not apologise for it #alina starkov #mal oretsev #shadow and bone #malina #shadow and bone spoilers #sab season 2 #sab spoilers #ruin and rising #siege and storm #nikolai lantsov

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lalalalooost · 1 year

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I'm past the stage of shipping Alina with Nikolai but can we talk about that scene in Ruin and Rising when Nikolai still offered Alina to be his queen knowing she already lost her powers. I think that's so pure and I love Nikolai more for that. I love how their relationship developed throughout the series.

He leaned back. “We were friends, weren’t we? Not just allies?”

“Don’t be an ass, Nikolai. We are friends.”

#shadow and bone #siege and storm #ruin and rising #alina starkov #nikolai lantsov #alina x nikolai #nikolai x reader #the grisha trilogy #grishaverse #sab spoilers #books #leigh bardugo

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lilisouless · 1 year

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BUT ALL THE REFERENCES

Kirigan- the antlers: he kills the stag

Alina-the snake: she kills it

Mal- you think is the bird but is actually himself AND he directs Alina´s hand to stab him (so, tecnically he kills that one)

#shadow and bone season 2 #shadow and bone #alina starkov #sab spoilers #grisha trilogy spoilers #malyen oretsev #netflix shadow and bone #siege and storm #ruin and rising #maybe i would have put one hand of the d on alina´s shoulders #and one of alina´s hands on mal´s #but still pretty good #malina #jessie mei li #archie renaux #ben barnes

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edanfig · 11 months

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I will be the first to say that the Grishaverse has its flaws. There are many problems with it but my main criticism is with the fandom. Especially the ones on booktok/bookstagram that always are like “my least favorites trope is when the fem!mc loses her powers in the end” and I look in the comments and see people saying “Omg like Alina”.

It doesn’t make any sense to me, I feel like I’ve seen that trope in less than 5 books, but maybe I’m wrong. However, Alina losing her power totally makes sense in the book. She doesn’t even want the power, her whole thought process is “means justify the end”. She says multiple times after the first few chapters in the Little Palace that she doesn’t like being a Grisha. It wasn’t healthy for her and she wasn’t thriving; hell, the people there didn’t even like her. Alina gathered all the power from the amplifiers to take down the Darkling, and it was said multiple times by her mentors that the power she was gaining was unnatural.

Her gathering of the amplifiers was breaking the natural order of things and creating rifts that we later see in KoS/RoW. Alina’s powers wiping themselves out after she strained herself and fixing the problem that was breaking the natural order makes so much sense. Her powers getting rid of themselves was restoring the world to what it was supposed to be.

Also people act like Alina was upset that she lost her power, and while I think she mourned the power she’d gained in that time, she wasn’t too sad. She enjoyed it because she could live a peaceful life with Mal, doing what she wanted, free from the constraints and stress from politics and dealing with life and death.

Certain people were just completely making things up about how Alina was feeling, forgetting she was a child who liked the idea of being a Grisha. After she got a taste of what it was like, and the stress (mental and physical) that came with it, she hated it. She hated when she became a saint because people were treating her like a thing not a person. Alina did everything she did to do what was right and when she was done went to the peaceful life she craved with Mal. And for some reason people interpret this as “Leigh didn’t want Alina to be happy” when you can clearly see she’s happier living a quiet life.

#shadow and bone #sab #alina starkov #sankta alina #media literacy where #mal oretsev #shadow and bone books #siege and storm #ruin and rising #sab spoilers

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uku-lelevillain · 1 year

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episode 3 was iconic

******SPOILERS*******

we got nikolai’s identity reveal like the books

we got alina punching nikolai

then we had the absolute wesper gem of “when i woke up you were gone” + love at first sight when wylan playing the piano

immediately followed by kaz telling inej about his backstory and some crumbs of THE BATHROOM SCENE EXCUSE ME WHAT

and right after that the Dregs fight scene with kaz wacking people with his cane left and right

it had iconic moments from siege and storm, the best scenes from crooked kingdom AND added the wesper bonus like what did we do to deserve such a well written episode

#shadow and bone spoilers #shadow and bone #shadow and bone season 2 #the crows #siege and storm #alina starkov #nikolai lantsov #kaz brekker #inej ghafa #wylan van eyck #jesper fahey #kanej #wesper

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that-sweet-thief · 1 year

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just finished binge-watching season 2 of shadow and bone. my thoughts are mostly in disarray but the cringe is real.

this was an off-paced, haphazard fanfiction. it'd be just fine if the writers weren't paid for it but they actually are, so it's just... wow. I'm at best mediocre when writing in english and i reckon even i would do a better job of writing dialogue.

anyway, here's a list of my thoughts on the show, though it's more of a word vomit than a comprehensive series review:

no ivan or fedyor. immediate downvote for that alone. ivan should've survived so we could have a heartbreaking moment between him and fedyor across the two sides of the battlefield. i guess they thought there were too many characters and couples to juggle already. or maybe the actors weren't available, who knows.

costume design took a surprising turn for the worse: for example, nina's and zoya's dresses were eyesores. how anyone could make these two very attractive women look that frumpy i've no idea but they've managed. i liked sankta neyar's costume, sturmhond's coat aaand that's about it.

the settings were more varied, so glad we've seen a little of bhez ju. the introductory map-to-location shots were very helpful for people who haven't read the books, namely my gf who fell asleep halfway through the show. also, if the music had any tracks that weren't already from the first season i'll be incredibly surprised, it's that repetitive.

they've messed up nikolai as a character mainly because the actor misunderstood his assignment, though i don't know what else he could've done with the mess he was given. while he's still sympathetic, lovely and witty, paddy's nikolai thinks of sturmhond as just another disguise, rather than who he really is, to the point of gifting said disguise to mal. that's irreconcilable with my understanding of nikolai, whose real mask is the bastard prince.

tamar & tolya were better realised than expected. along with the exclusion of the soldat sol cult, their zealotry's scrapped which is a big win for them. i enjoyed their scenes, great casting too. though, as an ardent kanej fan, i cannot in good conscience support the blink-and-you'll-miss-it tolya/inej moment. tamar/nadia had maybe a minute of screen time but better than nothing.

sankta neyar was a pleasant surprise, great idea to show how powerful durasts can also be. people often disregard materialki so this was refreshing. what i liked about her is how formal, collected, old-fashioned she both appeared and acted, as if her manners and speech style were leftover from a few centuries ago, kudos to her actor tuyen do.

the crows' arc was... lacking in some way. maybe it's because pekka rollins' attitude towards kaz and his group is very different than how it was established in the books, here he was way too proactive and less secure in his position in ketterdam for some reason; anyway rollins' framing of the crows felt off to me.

the crows' character dynamics are interesting and the saving grace of the show, all kanej and wesper scenes were great. seriously, the tension of kanej & cuteness of wesper nearly destroyed me.

they did helnik dirty, of course, but that was a given.

freddy carter outperformed everyone this season, i really think out of all of them he's given the best performance, sometimes even better than ben barnes and that's practically heresy coming from me, his devoted fan since ages ago when i first saw narnia.

i kinda dig that they brought in a tidemaker (fruszi) who's practically an early version of zoya for the darkling's side but her death felt cheap. i mean, the crows arriving to help out nikolai and his team at the very last second was already eye roll inducing, but then nikolai shoots her in the neck? cheap. also, if she and zoya came to face off that'd be interesting since they share so many similarities. i personally don't think it will but if the series continued along with the darkling's canon resurrection, i wish she'd lived and replaced elizaveta, she certainly seemed devoted enough.

david and genya made me cry. that's all i have to say on them.

baghra... where do i even start with her? baghra's nonchalance, her one-eighty about deciding to help alina find more amplifiers is stark raving bonkers imho. yet at least most of her scenes weren't as bad as they could've been, her proving to mal he was the firebird and her saving genya as well as alina actually came across better than the ultra passive, constantly berating version in the books. her death felt less dramatic but more spiteful, though aleksander's reaction to her death was appropriately heartbreaking. ben & zoe sold it so well, my eyes actually welled up.

speaking of sasha, his death is soooo badly executed, it's impossible not to be pissed off at the way they filmed it. even the books were more sympathetic to his demise and alina herself showed much more empathy for him at the end. it's genuinely disturbing how they framed it, makes alina seem more like a villain than the reluctant hero she used to be. i guess it fits with the surprise ending: how she kinda becomes what she sought to destroy, poetic irony and all, but still...

aleksander's whole arc this season makes him seem more desperate and pathetic and so, less of a tyrant: he doesn't even take control of the country or more than a small group of grisha let alone become tsar, instead the apparat rules over ravka on behalf of the lantsovs till nikolai is coronated. he and his people constantly lose to some clever last minute thwarting by alina's allies. the only thing scary about him is the nichevo'ya, the shadow monsters, which in the books are entirely under his control and that of course makes it all the more terrifying. here though, sick and tired and dying, he's merely desperate and fearful. the lack of wins on aleksandr's part really defeats the purpose of the writers' continuous attempts at making him simply the most terrible, horrifying and supreme villain of gregverse.

nope, can't get over it, aleksander practically died in her arms in the books, here she just looks down at him like she's the villain. i guess she now is. oh and mal's retort to sasha about dying in her arms was somehow a foreshadowing, see, but sasha doesn't get that because he's evil, see? gosh, so patronising.

since they've constantly emphasised this season how it was the fold's and thus sasha's fault that grisha were persecuted (not that this explains the ceaseless mistreatment, endangerment and more often death that grisha face everywhere they go, of course, nor does it explain his backstory) i gathered they'd go for a retcon but i didn't imagine they'd exonerate baghra, the apparat and tie the border wars with shu han and fjerda to the fold's existence entirely. the reason the war broke out in the first place was because those countries' fundamental approach to grisha was to kill them or worse. that is what grisha persecution meant. and now... what, the war is over, just like that? i have no words.

also, the exclusion of the "don't let me be alone" line. now that I think about it, those writers should be fed to nichevo'ya.

alina, alina, alina... sure, she's a self-insert, so her motivations don't make sense anyway, but as sweet as jessie is and how hard she tries, show!alina is now an equally awful mess as book!alina. the two things i liked about her this season were her manipulation attempt through the tether and the ending where she goes a bit darkling. the latter, i really like. i wrote a fragment of a power reversal fic before but never put it up, might just do that now.

i'll admit: it's rather funny how mal dumps alina after losing his amplification because he doesn't feel the same way anymore. he doesn't know if it was him being an amplifier that made them love one another. see how easily he turns away from alina? if i were aleksander, I'd be laughing at her from the grave.

#shadow and bone #shadow and bone spoilers #season 2 shadow and bone #season 2 spoilers #the grisha trilogy #book spoilers #siege and storm spoilers #ruin and rising spoilers #kind of a review #kind of a rant #mostly word vomit #grishaverse #pro darkling #anti baghra #make it make sense #at least the ending is better #aside from the way aleksander dies #anti s&b writers

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polis-fandom · 1 year

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Sturmhond appreciation post

Patrick Gibson as "Sturmhond" in "Shadow and Bone" season 2 on Netflix.

#grishaverse #shadow and bone #shadow and bone netflix #patrick gibson #paddy gibson #nikolai lantsov #sturmhond #sab spoilers #shadow and bone spoilers #siege and storm

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forthisone · 4 months

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Me, in January 2024, finally getting round to watching Shadow & Bone Season 2 and knowing the show got cancelled but looking forward to some happy fantasy escapism from real life… realising they are cramming Siege & Storm and Ruin & Rising into one season:

“… Well, this is incredibly fast paced and a lot of book plot is being skipped and there isn’t much space for the characters to actually breathe and have development… but at least i will get to see my beloved “ordinary life full of ordinary things” happy Ruin & Rising malina ending at the end! Right? RIGHT?!”

WHAT A CLOWN I AM.

So tired of adoring the first season(s) of shows and being so ultimately disappointed by subsequent season(s). What is so wrong with two people living peacefully in their happy ending. I hate that they changed their ending just because they presumably were setting up content for another season.

I’m honestly kind of fuming, I was so beyond over the moon with the book ending and the show completely ruined it for me. I appreciate that they didn’t know the show was going to be cancelled and I feel like Season 3 would have had a reunion but…it’s like they made Alina resurrecting Mail remove the special bond they have? Where he is like “I don’t feel true north any more(!!!!!!), how do we know where we would have ended up without our special bond.” And in the books he is completely the opposite “We would have found eachother no matter what etc”. IN WHAT UNIVERSE DOES MALYEN ORETSEV VOLUNTARILY LEAVE ALINA STARKOV TO GO OFF PRIVATEERING. Show universe, apparently.

I am honestly so upset and it’s going to take me a while to process this. Will delve into other reactions and content maybe post more thoughts at a later date.

Also I feel real bad for the Helnik fans… :/

#shadow and bone #shadow and bone spoilers #malina #malyen oretsev #ruin and rising #siege and storm #shadow and bone season 2 #i am upset #hello i am alive

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nyptagypta · 1 year

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Ngl this season is pretty book accurate it’s just accurate to too many books.

#shadow and bone #shadow and bone spoilers #nikolai lantsov #alina starkov #the darkling #kaz brekker #inej ghafa #jesper fahey #wylan can eck #nina zenik #matthais helvar #siege and storm #ruin and rising #crooked kingdom #six of crows

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gold-as-hera · 1 year

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Alina and the Darkling not knowing what the hell is going on with their powers: