#so THATs why their chemistry is so bland -_-;;;;

[moonlitlex]

on one hand i'm very happy for the queer teens who have a cute fluffy romance show because i didn't as a kid but also something about heartstopper is just... off?

for the record i read and enjoyed the webcomic and i enjoyed s1 too but this season really just felt like it was a checklist of things that they need the characters to do.

like. honestly most of these ppl don't have any chemistry but they still get paired up anyway. SO many people get paired up that it kind of seems like everyone in the writers room was going ok fuck what do we do with this character. who do we pair them up with.

isaac doesnt and he's aro/ace and like that's great and all but like. don't you think it's kinda fucked up that literally the ONLY person in the main cast who isn't already in a relationship or an extremely homoerotic friendship is. the aro guy. like yeah aro rep but in the show about teens you'd think they'd show a teenager just being single and not being a bitter mess like ben or something.... why can't someone just be single??? why does everyone have to pair off?? they're kids???

ik the teachers were together in the comic or whatever too but like jeez when they kissed i was like oh my god EVERYONE. like seriously everyone. isn't there a single person in this show who is single. can't the teachers at least date some unrelated 3rd party. this density of couples is just unrealistic at this point

i genuinely feel like no one here has a distinct personality. they're mostly queer and they've all got this nervous energy which is fine for some characters but that's like everyone that we're spending time with. they're all just nervous about stuff. i know they're in high school but it's just so.... bland idk. i literally had an anxiety disorder in hs and even i would've been telling these ppl to relax and please do something else that's not you being romantic or you being nervous.... there needs to be more to the characters

and like idk. it doesn't feel very gay. ik thats a nebulous criticism but its kinda like love simon like yeah it was cute and i did eat that shit up at the time but it feels like... very much like a non queer persons take on queerness.

edit: also want to add i am aware that alice oseman is aroace and therefore very much not a non queer person. i also think that queer people are very capable of writing extremely bland and boring characters with nothing to them but their sexuality

#alexis.exe #heartstopper crit #anti heartstopper #not really but just for the filters ig #heartstopper spoilers

[myuiis]

(same anon who asked for sinu analysis) well first off let me ask your thoughts on YeonhuixSinu

Despite my undying love for this man- I'll admit they're cute n all BUT I always felt it was undeveloped.

I don't know if it's just me but when Jason (I think) said he'd snitch about him being with neko to her I was confused back when he was still under the influence of those pills at workers. Like, Did I miss something? Did I forget something from the gaps between the arcs? Idk. But even if she was shown to be worried over Sinu, it didn't seem romantic at all especially that all the big deal girls cared too. PTJ also made it seem like an already established relationship and I'm still questioning when?? She seemed to know him well and all but no hinting of any romantic attraction was there, just your average big deal romanticism and admiration lol.

I understand that PTJ has to leave some details away for the sake of the pacing but I think he could've at least thrown some hints here and there.

ok yeah. so this won't be a super long post because i am tired but good lord i am very... lukewarm about sinu and yeonhui. im with you on the "who?" when yeonhui was mentioned again in 2a. now im glad that sinu is with someone he's happy with but man... sinu and yeonhui is just such a mid ship compared to literally anyone else he could've been shipped with. let me explain.

yeonhui's lack of presence in the story. now this is probably the main reason i find this ship so lackluster. how am i supposed to root for a ship when the female love interest is literally like npc #125? while she did have more presence than the other girls on the street, this isn't really a high bar considering ptj's track record writing female characters. and this isn't to say she was boring or had a bland personality either (even though she KINDA did...). she was strong and independent, stood up to samuel when he tried to extort them for money (iirc), bore the burden of sinu's sacrifice and stayed strong for big deal, and was there to comfort jake when he learned of the news. she could've been a REALLY interesting character because she was so strong and also stuck to her ideals in the same way sinu did, so they could've been such a power couple, had yeonhui been developed more. it would've been nice to see yeonhui and sinu strategize about how to protect big deal together, or see more of yeonhui bandaging and caring for sinu after he gets hurt, or seeing sinu bring yeonhui gifts and money... or anything, really. the two have barely have any substantial interactions over the entire arc besides the last part where sinu's about to sacrifice himself, so much so that it makes me wonder... who is this yeonhui person? why are they important again.

chemistry. this mainly comes up to personal preference but yeonhui and sinu feel more like an older sister-younger brother dynamic to me. yeonhui took sinu in as a child, fed, clothed, and cared for him, and then continues to take care of him as an adult, which comes off as big sis behavior. again, some people may like this dynamic romantically, but i personally find it super platonic and sibling-leaning.

other sinu ships. idk. just find it a LITTLE heteronormative that any man and woman who share a little bit of screentime together are instantly a couple while sinu and jake can be out here pulling "you are my everything" and "i came back to big deal for you and you alone, jake" moments, and they'll still be just "good bros". again, kind of up to personal preference, but if you compare yeonhui x sinu to jake x sinu or even samuel x sinu, there's a clear lack of interactions and chemistry for yeonhui x sinu

so yeah. thats kinda it. this ended up being way longer than i expected so im not gonna write a conclusion paragraph but those are my thoughts around yeonhui and sinu together romantically.

#lookism #lookism manhwa #lookism webtoon #jake kim #samuel seo #sinu han #yeonhui #kim gimyung #kim gimyeong #han shinwoo #seo seongeun #big deal #lookism rant #myuiis bullshit

[fictionisthebetterreality]

Thoughts(TM) on Mass Effect, in no particular order or preference.

- What did they do to Ashley??? Why did she go from kick-ass takes-no-shit-soldier to... kick-ass-takes-no-shit-soldier with eyeshadow and lipstick and a fringe and hair to her shoulders which probably somehow breaks regulations?? That shit would be getting in her eyes when she was trying to shoot, if it wasn't getting ripped out by a rabid husk first... just no.

- While we are talking about this - WHY did they make us suffer the dress(tm) every time woman Shepherd had to dress 'fancy'? First, that is the ugliest effing dress I've ever seen in my life, not to mention out of character for my (and I'm sure a lot of others) Shepherd, who would have been in a suit at the most, or something nicer than that (no, literally, anything would have been better).

+ Garrus... where to even start? Possibly the best developed character in the whole damn game. I adore Garrus. Would kill for him die for him etc. The friendship between him and Shepherd was so lovely and a really nice highlight of all the games. Except for when Shepherd tries to set him up at the bar. Bit weird.

+ Liara... love of my life, light of my life etc etc. Second only to Garrus and only because the romance scene I had ('will you be my girlfriend' in the presidium commons, not sure if there are any others) was so dry and stale compared to the rest of their cutscenes I hated it. But the chemistry between these two across all three games was amazing, and made their relationship (should you choose to accept it) all the more realistic and believable.

- The endings of ME3. Need I say more. -100/10.

+ The 'fight' scene with James at the start of ME3 was so cute. Loved the option of telling him off at the end for the nicknames. Tbh the recurring options throughout the game of whether to respond 'friendly' or 'professional' was a nice touch.

+ Also - the fling/relationship between James and Ashley was equally cute.

+ Anderson and Shepherd?? Maximum cuteness. Especially the 'I'm proud of you' moment at the end. Really focused in on the parent/daughter relationship.

+ The symmetry/comparison of Earth/Palaven/Thessia worlds burning and being ravaged by the reapers... the hurt/comfort of 'I understand exactly how you feel' 'i thought i understood how you felt but this is so much worse??'

+ The party... the party!! Ahhhh the only complaint I had was the prompt to dance disguised as talk... but thats just personal preference. The photo at the end - SO CUTE. Also, Traynor reciting the elements of the periodic table while drunk and dancing was probably one of my favourite moments of the whole game.

+ Joker and EDI. 10/10. Perfect pairing.

- Jacob in ME2. Literally the most bland, boring character I'd ever experienced. Specifically chose him for the mission at the end of ME2 cause it was pretty obvious it would end in death.

+ Tbh, all the other characters I loved to varying degrees. Thane, Samara, Javik, I could probably take or leave. The rest- their stories were all so complex. Hated Miranda at the start, was genuinely upset by her death at the end. Jack's character development was insane. Barely touched Wrex in ME1, thought he was a throw away character (boy was I wrong). Probably the best element of this game is the characters and relationships. Love-hated the death of a character in ME1. That was Kaiden for me, and it fitted so well into the storyline generally it really gave so much depth to Shepherds backstory.

- Samara.... did someone put eight-zero-zero-eight into a calculator while they were having a meeting about her?? Did she put her costume into the dryer when it was line-dry material?? Please TRY and make it less obvious who you are catering to, here. Also upset there was no option to stop her killing her daughter, just...stand by and watch, I guess.

+ ME3 acknowledging and showing the effects of constant war on Shepherd with the nightmares. Enjoyed that you could play it cool/fake it when asked or genuinely respond and say what was wrong. Although, I did notice that for the 'survivor' backstory on Azure, pretty sure it changed from 'Threshermaw attack' in ME1 to 'Cerburus' in ME3. Might've missed something there, tho.

+ Honestly, just the dialogue in ME3. Esp. the mid-fight chatter among teams Mako and Hammerhead in the clone mission. 10/10, apart from the occasional cut-scene dialogue we didn't get enough interaction between characters. Enjoyed it a lot, really put a lot more personality into everyone.

+ Aria... 100/10. Really nice deviation from the 'classic' asari we see elsewhere. Also, her whole appearance and personality were matched so seamlessly, I love it. Felt like it gave my Shepherd an opportunity to play the bad guy a bit more away from her crew. Although would have been nice to get a warning that you can't get back to Omega in ME3 once the mission is completed... I never did find her couch. Saying that, it was a shame she was never made to appear in the final fight cutscene.

+ The ring from EDI... literally the best gift ever. Shepherd is forever keeping it on her tags. Forever.

+-Kinda loved and hated the whole going-to-the-room-the-person-is-in-for-a-chat. The elevator got old pretty quick. A nice touch being able to invite people up to your cabin and meet up on the citadel (although again, at some points it felt like I was at the citadel meeting people more than I was out there saving the galaxy. Shepherd is a popular woman, but more missions to compensate, or mission-related/style meetings could have been nice).

#some details might not be right ive only played it through once so far #but i needed to get this out of my head #mass effect #mass effect 1 #mass effect 2 #mass effect 3 #mass effect one #mass effect two #mass effect three

[catgirl-catboy]

choose violence 3 6 7 8 9 10 16 22 and 25 for total drama (and i’ve just realized that’s a lot a lot so obvi if u don’t wanna answer all of them that’s all good)

No worries! I'm happy to scream about Total Drama! Worst case scenario, I get tired and simply finish the rest later.

3.) screenshot or description of the worst take you've seen on tumblr

Shipping Raj x Wayne is somehow homophobic because Raj is in a canon gay relationship. Polyamory is a thing, and somehow I don't think homophobes would enjoy the idea of a fanon m/m ship somehow.

Honestly, any time people expect canon queer couples to be given special treatment in fandom it annoys the shit out of me. Someone will dislike the vibes of the ship. Its inevitable. Honestly, I'm surprised that someone wasn't me this time, since happy relationships like Rajbow aren't usually my jam.

6.) which ship fans are the most annoying?

Can I bash the shippers for my favorite TD ship (of Duncney) for a second?

Shut up about the love triangle. Shut up about Courtney's character derailment. Literally every ship was wronged by canon, we aren't fucking special. A vast majority of the ship tag shouldn't be bitching about canon.

7.) what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because how how the fandom acts about them?

...honestly, thats a hard one. I feel like hate is a strong word, but I don't understand the hype for Noah. (and any Noah ship that isn't Nowen or Noah x Emma.)

Like, sure. He's sarcastic. So what. That makes him a 5/10 at best. He never does anything but be sarcastic and then be mindlessly in love.

I don't hate him though.

8.) common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about

lean in. come closer, I don't want anyone else hearing this.

Dramarama is good. and funny. and I like it. Why is it despised?

9.) worst part of canon

The fart jokes are low hanging fruit, so I won't pick them.

I hate how everyone in gen 1 had to be coupled up. What relevance Izzy/Owen have on the season as a whole? Or Geoff/Bridgette? (I like them but point still stands.)

If you introduce a canon couple and get me invested in the romance, it has to actually go somewhere. Lyler was a plot device to get you to hate Heather. Duncney went through an entire arc. Gwent was amazing.

Why do no other ships bring that energy?

I love Samkota, but Sam was just a trophy husband for Dakota after her mutation. He's a passive participant in his own romance arc.

Gens 3 and 4 improve on this I think, but it still annoys me.

10.) worst part of fanon

this is incredibly petty and personal, but WHY IS CODY EVERYWHERE? He squicks me. So much. (honestly, the fact that he reminds me of a past experience when most creep characters don't proves that he feels like a real person. but no.) Why is half the fandom Cody. Can it not be?

16.) you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)

I answered this before and I said Lesbian Emma. Now, I'm going to go with Gwortney. These two could barely sell and interesting friendship, and somehow you expect them to carry an entire romance plotline? Its the most bland of bland ships. If you want a Sapphic way to resolve the despised love triangle, Gweather is right there. They actually have chemistry.

It feels like they took all of Duncan's hard work of getting Courtney to relax and enjoy life, and made Gwen have the same effect on her when it doesn't make sense with the characterization. If anything, Courtney making Gwen be more serious makes sense.

(that being said, I'm glad you are having fun, and will reblog cute art.)

22.) your favorite part of canon that everyone else ignores

The episode recaps. I want Chris to recap my day. I love them.

25.) common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing

Other than the love triangle?

Heather's plot armor.

Owen had just as much, if not more plot armor. He makes the group sleep in the woods? Fuck it, Katie and Sadie get lost.

Single-handedly blows the cooking challenge? Uh... (Total Drama writers thinking up Bullshit) Beth and the Statue pisses everyone off more, somehow!

He betrays the guys alliance? This has no concequences for him.

At least Heather's plot armor didn't cause her to win a season.

#ask tag #ask game #total drama

[filmmakerdreamst]

Ahhhh! I can't believe someone actually read any of my HSMTMTS posts let along liked some of them! Thank you so much, I felt so validated lol. I totally want friends in this fandom so yeah let's talk about it! It's a good time too, time to catch up int he hiatus :-D

eeep! Ok I'll tell you my HSMTMTS story!

I hated the High School Musical movies when I was little. Everyone was nuts about them and I just didn't get it. (Mind you, I had only seen bits of it at the time) Being an Artsy kid, there was no escaping them. I had to learn the songs in the School Choir, For Plays and in my singing lessons. It was hell. Could be that I wasn't a big fan of Disney. I grew up with gritty British kids TV like Tracy Beaker - so everything I watched on Disney was extremely sugary in comparison.

I did however watch the movies fully when I was alot older, and they weren't as bad as I initially thought, but they still didn't really do it for me personally. Maybe because I'm not the biggest fan of musicals I don’t know.

I was aware of HSMTMTS when it first came out. I had already been told that they were possibly going to do another High School Musical - which turned into a tv show instead. I did initially cringe at the idea but what intrigued me to it was Sofia Wylie (I was a big fan of Buffy in 'Andi Mack') But the clips I saw didn't particularly. 

I saw the Season One Finale moment where Ricky confesses his love to Nini and..they just seemed to be like every average Disney Couple to me. (especially since they were a carbon copy of Troy and Gabriella) Under developed, Cliche, Main Guy + Girl ending up together, Singing while gazing into each others eyes etc.  

I found the scene to be awkwardly co-ordinated as well. The way Nini immediately flipped round, to walking towards him smiling didn't strike me as very natural. 

Generally speaking the main couple of a show shouldn't put a viewer off from watching it if they don't like them, but it does to me a lot of the time. Possibly one of the reasons why I never got into High School Musical when I was little - so the clips I saw of the show didn't really interest me. Josh and Sofia's acting (especially Josh) was the only thing that stood out.

Its only until Season 2 came out that I saw the videos of Ricky and Gina -- I went.."oh hello. "

At first, I was like, this the typical  'plot device' loosing side of the love triangle ship where the girl unrequitedly pines after the guy that chose his inevitable endgame over her - so might as well forget it.  

The only thing that indicated to me in the few music videos and scenes (out of context mind) that I saw that Ricky might have feelings for her too was his eyes. 

Must give props to Josh in the eye acting department, because I feel like he expressed Rickys POV very well. 

I did see their chemistry and all that, but never thought they were ever going to go there because Disney Shows never do with those types of pairings e.g. where its less obvious and cliche. 

The Main Guy does not end up with a girl who was originally supposed to be a side character on a Disney Show. (And lets face it, someone who isn't white passing) That rarely happens. Typically, on those types of shows, especially today, the main characters end up with their 'endgame' from day one and thats it.

I also saw videos of her and EJ and I was like 'no'. Even before watching the show, I didn't find them to have that much chemistry - they just seemed pretty bland to me. 

I heard somewhere by the end of Season 2, they were  supposedly doing a 'Next Generation' in Season 3, and the original cast weren't coming back and I was like 'noo that means Ricky and gina won't happen' I don't know why i thought that.

Then I heard on twitter that the writers were going to explore Ricky and Gina in Season 3, and i was like 'SHUT UP! NO WAY' and my interest in the show peaked from mildly interested to INVESTED SO FAST. 

The show quickly went from (to me) a cheesy reboot to the Deepest Show on Disney.

I then watched the show in context, and honestly it proved me wrong (the show itself was better than I expected) Ricky did have feelings for Gina, but he was scared of them because she was new and also he felt guilty because he was actively pursuing his old gf before he made a connection with her. So as soon as she left, it's felt like to me that he saw it as an easy out and went back to the safety of his old relationship. But when Ricky and Nini got back together, it wasn't about being 'in love' anymore, it was about having a constant or dare I say, "familiar" relationship that he could cling on to because his family was splitting apart and he felt alone. 

And you can see in the Valentines Day episode, that he's clearly freaking out when she comes to his house and if Nini hadn't called, I'm pretty sure he would of got lost in the moment and cheated. Because sure, he loved Nini but what he really wanted was Gina. His attitude towards her in that Season doesn't make sense if you assume he doesn't like her that way. All these comments saying 'Oh Ricky misunderstood Gina's confession' are BS. If he misunderstood her, their relationship wouldn't have been as awkward as it was in that part of the season. 

Gina was the one who cut him out of her life, not him, because she recognised that he was going down hill. Ricky respected that decision and gave her space until she said it was ok for him to start talking to her again. 

Basically, I find them to have the deepest, most realistic bond on that show. It's not a "straight up romance".  It's not flowery or Disney-esque.  It doesn't have a typical A- Z plotline e.g. 'enemies to lovers' or whatever. It's beautifully complicated and 100% genuine. Plus Josh and Sofia's chemistry is Electric man!

Tell me about your story! Love to chat about it!

#this was fun to write #hope it didn't drag or bore you #i love talking about their angst #rina #ricky x gina #high school musical the series #high school musical #hsmtmts #high school musical the musical the series #gina porter #is my babe #ricky bowen #is my son #tv show #analysis #character analysis #writing #review #this was mostly negative #idk why #hsm #sofia wylie #joshua bassett #ask #question #answer #film #disney + #disney #disney channel

[mariailoveyou-guerin]

why am I seeing gifs of Simone and Jonathan dancing where is it from? also the way they gave more buzz and chemistry then anything their characters did in whole season of bridegerton? is sick actually lmao something went completely wrong when they was filming the final product bc their behind scenes are hundred thousand times more chemistry buzz tension filled then anything they did on s2 I’m swrry but what went wrong how are they giving off so much buzz here in these pics alone then they did in all of s2 I mean the tension the buzzz just wow the sexual chemistry tension on screen ship Kathony could never everrr do this give me this much buzz butterflies! also they look so good I love them alot

How did they not get this on screen? why did they ruin them like that please look at all the effort work they did just for it to be Bleh meh super bland boring on screen! I want whoever directed season2 burned at the stake because I could’ve had all of this all this cuteness buzz serotonin with kathony but it was completely ruined by meaningless long words actions unnecessary amount of heavy loud breathing they thought we would think was sexual tension or would give us buzz but it didn’t!

and when I get them in movie and not a fcvking period drama they too good for it but a modern day rom com like love and drugs thats when I win! @ universe I’m begging you that sh*t show they are in didn’t deserve them and didn’t give us anything let us get them in movie together! I need them away from this show now

#benedict bridgerton #bridegerton #anthony bridgerton #kate sharma

[professionallydeadinside]

ALSO THERES SO MANY PEOPLE DEFENDING THE COMIC SAYING THAT HATING IT BECAUSE ITS BAD QUEER REP IS STUPID BUT LIKE. WHAT IF I SAY THAT ALL THE CHARACTERS ARE SHIT? AND THAT GOOD QUEER REP WOULD INCLUDE ACTUAL HUMAN CHARACTERS? LIKE 1899 IS GOOD QUEER REP BECAUSE WHILE ÁNGEL AND KRESTER DO BAD THINGS THEY FEEL HUMAN. ALL THE QUEER CHARACTERS IN 1899 FEEL LIKE REASONABLY REAL PEOPLE YOU COULD MEET. AND LIKE YEAH YOU COULD MEET THE BOYFRIENDS CHARACTERS IN REAL LIFE BUT I THINK MOST EVERYONE WOULD IMMEDIATELY TRY TO KILL THEM. I WOULD ARGUE IT IS BAD QUEER REP BECAUSE IT FRAMES QUEERS AS BEING EITHER DISGUSTING (like nerd) OR NOTHING MORE THAN A STEREOTYPE. WHICH IS FINE FOR STORIES THAT MAKE THE STEREOTYPE PART OF THE GIMICK BUT THIS DOESNT. IT ACTS LIKE THESE ONE DIMENSIONAL CHARACTERS ARE ACTUALLY THREE DIMENSIONAL. IT MAKES A HENTAI ADDICT WHO ACTS LIKE HES FIVE SEEM HOT AND SEXY CUTE WHEN HES NOTHING MORE THAN DISGUSTING. AND IT ISNT GOOD POLY REP EITHER BECAUSE THERES NO LIKE CHEMISTRY BETWEEN ANY OF THEM. THEY JUST FEEL LIKE THEYRE DATING BECAUSE THATS WHAT THE AUTHOR WANTS. AGAIN IM GONNA USE 1899 AS A GOOD EXAMPLE. LUCIEN, JÉRÔME, and CLÉMENCE WOULD MAKE GOOD POLY REP BECAUSE THEY ALL CLEARLY CARE FOR EACH OTHER. JÉRÔME AND CLÉMENCE ALWAYS HAD CHEMISTRY AND LUCIEN ADMITS TO LOVING CLÉMENCE BUT BEING AFRAID TO BE WITH HER BECAUSE HE KNOWS HELL DIE YOUNG. LUCIEN AND JÉRÔME HAVE A REDEMPTION AND REUNION ARC GOING ON AND JÉRÔME TRULY MOURNS LUCIENS DEATH. THEY ALL HAVE SOME CONNECTION TO EACH OTHER THATS BUILT ON SOMETHING. EITHER LOVE OR HATRED OR FORCED INDIFFERENCE BUT ITS SOMETHING. BOYFRIENDS IS NOTHING BUT SOMETHING THAT FEELS LIKE A FETISH. OFC TJEN WHEN YOU SAY THAT PEOPLE ASK FOR REASONS WHY AND SOMETIMES THERE JUST ISNT ONE. SOMETIMES YOU READ SOMETHING AND YOU JUST FEEL LIKE YOU ARENT BEING TREATED RIGHT. AND YES THE AUTHOR IS A TRANS GAY MAN BUT THAT DOESNT EXCLUDE HIM FROM CRITICISM AND HE CAN STILL OFFEND AND HURT OTHER GAY TRANS MEN. THIS COMIC ISNT GOOD, THE CHARACTERS ARE BLAND, ITS NOT EVEN A GOOD SLICE OF LIFE COMIC (dont even get me started on that part), AND IT ISNT EVEN GOOD QUEER REP FOR ANYBODY. THIS COMIC IS NOTHING AND FEELS LIKE NOTHING MORE THAN AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE QUEERS FEEL BETTER WITHOUT GIVING US THE GOOD STORIES WE DESERVE. AND YES THE AUTHOR IS FROM INDONESIA I KNOW THAT I KNOW INDONESIA IS A VERY HARD COUNTRY ON QUEERS AND THAT THE AUTHOR IS PROBABLY GOING THROUGH IT BY BEING THERE, BUT THAT ISNT AN EXCUSE AND WHILE I DO FEEL BAD FOR HIM FOR POSSIBLY FEELING UNSAFE IN HIS COUNTRY, THAT DOESNT MEAN THE COMIC IS GOOD OR JUSTIFIABLE. WE CAN SYMPATHISE WITH BAD EVENTS THE CREATOR HAS GONE THROUGH AND STILL BELIEVE THE ART THEY MAKE IS MISLEADING AT BEST AND PERHAPS EVEN HARMFUL WITH ITS BAD DEPICTIONS OF QUEERS AT WORST

Silas I opened this up on my phone in front of my parents and I don't think I've closed the app faster

#long post #you do bring up some good points though asdfghj #answered

[katapotato55]

My love hate relationship with modern Ratchet and Clank games

TW: my opinion. its ok to disagree with me and I would love to hear your perspective. please don't send me hate. thank you.

I love rift apart and I love ratchet and clank as a series. I have played it since the ps2 era and it has a very special place in my heart, I loved the future trillogy too, and I love the newer games all the same.

but also some things bother me

1- clank making a dimentionator and announcing it to the universe felt out of character.

I don't care how you spice it the entirety of ACIT had clank learning about not abusing power for selfish reasons what the fuck game.

It would have worked if literally anyone but clank did that.

2- i miss Jim Ward.

this is not the games fault I am just sad about it. Captain Qwark was one of my favorites growing up. I wish him and his family good health and fortune. thank you for making my childhood you brilliant hilarious man.

3- This entire story feels like a waste of time.

can we just END the whole thing with the lombax race already. I loved the future trilogy but its been 10 years and I want to finally move on to other stories.

either showcase the lombax race, or don't. this has been dangling so much over my head that i have to occasionally remove cobwebs from it. lets just finish this story arc and move on please!

it feels like having the boys go to a parallel "what if never met" timeline just felt… wasteful.

I love rivet and kit but they are still just genderswapped ratchet and clank. You can't really have them meet new characters because they are just meeting themselves.

Yes i know this is a stupid take but i don't care. I just feel like this story was so…. safe. nothing ground breaking or interesting and it feels a bit wasteful.

4- ratchet's personality (also a problem with the 2016 remake)

what I loved about the original trillogy is that ratchet and clank were an amazing duo.

Ratchet was gruff, a little immature, and a bit standoffish. later on he matured (probably because he was like 13 in the first game lol) but he was STILL ratchet.

this reflected off of clank being naieve but good natured and intelligent. Clank became less naieve but he was STILL clank.

but since the 2016 reboot Ratchet went from a standoffish imperfect person to a generic wonderhero every single damn hollywood protagonist has.

the problem with this is that it basically ruins the dynamic with the boys. if both Ratchet AND clank are Naive then they don't really have a lot of chemistry…

Writers: please let your characters be flawed.

I liked ratchet BECAUSE of his flaws, and it feels like ratchet's personality was sandblasted off during the movie.

5- Comedy and seriousness 2 in one shampoo.

I liked the OG trillogy for its comedy, but it had a few serious bits too, mostly in up your arsenal.

I liked the Future trilogy for its serious bits, but it had comedy bits too sprinkled here and there which was a nice way to blow off tension.

for the most part sometimes it feels like this series doesn't know if it wants to be serious or joke-ey and so its kinda neither. Its just there. it exists.

please let the writers have fun with this man. It feels like a lot of the newer stuff has a corporate stranglehold on this series so its too afraid to alienate anyone.

as they always say: to appeal to EVERYONE you end up standing out to no one at all.

why am i making this post?

because tbh I don't want ratchet and clank to turn into bland safe mush that is designed to appeal to as much people as possible.

i love this game

But also this game only really brought me neat alt characters. I like fancy brit nefarious but thats about it. nothing really stands out to me about this game beyond it's premise.

it all feels too…safe?

That's why the lombax civilization story line didn't end, its because its too dangerous to ACTUALLY explore that anymore. that is why for some bloody reason characters keep randomly pointing out how lombax ratchet is being a lombax and that is what he is.

I am not angry, but that is EXACTLY my problem.

I WANT to be angry and upset

I WANT to have my ideas challenged

its more interesting that way! I remember way back in the day people were complaining about the tonal shift in the future trillogy and how they didn't like that.

more of that please! do interesting things with the characters I love! don't just sit on all these good ideas damnit!

anyways give me your thoughts. thank you for reading my lazy weird nerd rant. I stayed up late last night playing shadows of doubt and I will probably regret posting this once I get a full nights sleep lol. oh also shipping ratchet and rivet is weird. stop it I don't want this to be another sans self incest thing. It isn't as ungodly and terrible as the Allistor and Ratchet ship but its still weird as fuck. sorry not sorry please insomniac let women in this series exist for longer than 2 games at least so that the fans can be less emotionally starved. canonize relationships you cowards.

#i am so tired man #ratchet and clank #rift apart #ratchet and clank rift apart #r&c #ratchet & clank

[she-walked-away]

I’m sorry, but also not sorry about this post.

Rory is literally one of the worst characters. He literally has no personality other than him being “nice.” He’s been on the show for about 5 months at this point and all we know is: he’s a cop, he didn’t go to college, and he likes graphic novels.

I don’t know if they’re trying to make him the new “nice guy” like Chase was- but Chase actually had some charisma but also has a twist with the Nelle thing. Like Chase was an objectively nice person, but he had MORE to him.

I don’t know what exactly they’re trying to do with him bc right now he’s just a prop for Trina to talk about Spencer and to be the random cop that comes to scenes. I feel like they almost want to do a Chase/Willow lite relationship with them since both are them were “nice characters” but also, Katey and Josh had a ton of chemistry that lacks here (honestly, I loved Chillow and I think they lasted a lot longer bc of their natural chemistry which is why I think Michael and Willow are a fail BUT THATS ANOTHER DAY).

Like nothing against the actor but I can’t tell if it him or the writing that’s rough bc every scene with him and Trina is just so bland and when they add Spencer to the mix, he just goes in circles around him. Like honestly, I hope he’s the hook dude so they add some depth to him lol.

TLDR: Rory is a terrible character because he isn’t really a character. He’s a prop.

#general hospital #anti rory Cabrera

[zalrb]

I simply can't get invested into anything anymore bc why is everything so bland?? It's like writers dont know how to write and actors dont know how to act?? I have taken a L this entire year in fiction (actually for the last few years) in terms of my ships that i liked or i thought had a trope with potential but every single one of them burned before they could even bloom. How do writers take a trope as magnificent as "death trope or near death trope such as hospital scene where bf is worried asf and loses his shit at the thought of loved one dying" those kinds of tropes and managed to make it as boring and as bland as possible?? Like THE STAKES AREN'T HIGH ENOUGH?? THAT WAS IT?? THATS ALL?? like even if their chemistry isnt top notch it can at the very least be idk entertaining? Visually pleasing? Girl, please do us a favor and become a script writer, i will pay money for a quality show

LMAO believe me, i'm trying. and yeah, i was talking to initiumseries like, i am so desperate for content, i started watching an anime about food where the characters orgasm when they eat, LIKE?? then i even watched a season and a half of Korra??????? it's BAD out here.

#i am rewatching ATLA for the 500th time

[away-ward]

Hey ko! I was the anon who talked to you about my opinion of nightfall around two weeks ago ask & ans 256? Anyway, i dont think i have anything much to reply to your answer, i agree with a lot of things you said. And i actually read the bonus rikabanks and wtf? 🤮 i shouldve listened to you!!!!! Wtf? Why do i feel like dn series dont have any couples that will stay together for the rest of their lives? Like? Tbh, i wasnt feeling alexaydin, willemmy was on thin ass because of that bitchass will grayson, kaibanks too on thin ice because of kai fuck that guy- conclave, then michaelrika is so stale? Ngl, they got that sexual tension, but what else?

Unpopular opinion, i actually dont dislike any fmcs in this series except for winter, even rika, i just dont feel much about her tbh. It's insufferable to see these men and women going after her bland ass, but hey wtv. My least fav though would 100% be winter. alex was my #1 hated, but winter was my #1 disliked fmc in the series, but still my dislike for her is lower than any hatred i have for the horsemen tbh. I think it's because both of alex and winter are jjst such self righteous hypocrites, will and kai got on my nerves for the same reason too. when they fucked up, they love to play victim too much, and blame everybody as if their hands are not just dirty. winter's character is just being a useless tool, to be damon's muse and before anyone come after me, winter was not boring because shes blind at all. It's her lack of presence outisde of damon, and her personlity. In general, damonwinter is unlikeable to me. Shes just there, she didnt make any impact to her OWN love story and i hate it, feels like only damon was yearning, and i dont even like damon. Like AT ALL. I fucking hate him, and still think he deserves better than winter tbh.

Funny how out of the four main couples, i actually rooted for damonwinter the least. Even in conclave and fire night, it was always damon taking initiatives, and i hate it, i dont like winter because of this. I dont understand how od got the chance to write a bomb ass character who's disabled and write someone naive, guillible, self righteous, weak, whiny and slut-shaming, like winter. Granted other characters did too, but the way she was described as pure and good but doesnt match up to how she actually was, i was disappointed. theyre the least not romantic to me, besides kaibanks (but kaibanks was because pd didnt know how to write them, and busy putting damon in their story. Outisde of those factors, they got chemistry). I want fmc and mmc to be obsessed and be yearning and work for each other. Damonwinter was giving nothing, because winter made it feel like a reluctant group project, but hey looking at goodreads reviews tell me that maybe its just me. I was so disappointed because everyone was like "you gota keep pushing corruot and hideaway for damonwinter" then when i read it, i was like "huh, why was winter like THAT?" She was so fucking self righteous and annoying. Like she dont gotta a brain or something? Like? Even rika wasnt this gullible. I mean rika WAS very gullible but there was a lot of situations we read where she was only like that because she chose to put it past her since her only aim in corrupt was michael michael michael. As she grew, even though she was still a lot unnecessary, she wasnt insufferable on purpose, but because pd wrote her to be one. Rika's character assassination was not because of herself, but because of pd's writing. Like damon said, half dumb half smart. But winters character was straight dumb. I feel like it's due to bad writing AND her character was born to fluff damon up. Like winter Was so damn stupid, i had to take a break when i read her pov.sometimes stupid? Thats fine, everyone does that in the series (except for the horsemen) but almost all the time? Girl, what? Interesting how damon really always find interest in dumb fmcs, but then he also admitted that thats his personality type, literally the ditzy blonde ones, so hey, maybe misogyny IS the big turn on for these "heroes" huh?

and another thing that i wanna touch on: purity culture of this series. Ohmy fucking god, it was so icky!!!!! Made me hate damonwinter even more. No because why did nobody gave this a trigger warning? I didnt know this going into the series!!!!! Ohmygod! Like for real? Damon always talking about how young and pure the people around him? I get it. Trauma. But goddamn, he romanticised it all the time and never grew out of it! I cannot stand His povs!!! Talking about rika like that, then treating banks like that and touching her ass ohmygod it traumatised me, then babying will and acting like he's a baby, then winter about her young thighs, ruining her and shit like ughhh 🤮 and innocent sleeping winter like she was 12 🤮 like whats with the purity-obsessed with these characters? Rika when she said alex was the purest? Huh? theyre both such dumb no-thoughts-but-only-dicks besties for real. Theyre always so embarrassing together, so shallow, i hate it!! But pd has never had a talent to write good female relationships either, her birthday girl book and fall away series are always fmcs fighting and putting other women down. But she always write all these men bonding with each other and having the best kinds of support system. I hate it!!! Anyway, back to the purity topic, ugh, did you notice this too? I always throw up in my mouth a lil when damon went into emmy's shower stall and talked about will like that, it's so predatory (which again, i know trauma, but idgaf) and weird ughhhhh. But people esepcially willdamon shippers always go awww 🥹 but theyre also damonwinter lovers so i guess purity is really their kink? Idk idc, you like what you like but it still traumatised me!!!! Thank god in emmy's pov i dont have to read much about purity and misogyny. Ughhhhhhh. Like 6 books in the series, and only in nightfall we see the fmc being mostly good to other women, and not the other way around only ughhhhhh. Maybe this was why alex was mad at emmy, among many other possible reasons than jealousy? Because emmy was her first female friend in the group who didnt start her relationship with alex being shit or judging to her from the start? And after everything still good to her? Because shes not to sincerely supportive female friendship like this? Or am i reaching? Because i remember alex's relationship with rika, banks and winter were rocky at first, not like theres a big fight or anything, but their men always use her to pit against their women and their women always looks down on her? Maybe not winter because she didnt know but damon was still implying that alex was only a side hoe. Idk, have you discussed this point here before? I think it's interesting how bare minimum it was, but thank fucking god for emmy for this. I wished she was bitchier and didnt have to always be so kind to people like this, they just always walk all over her while her bitchass guy grayson stood there like a dumbo, never fight for anything. Ughhhhhhh im pissed!!

i think that's the only thing i got in mind after ask and answ 256.

anyway,

and i just read your conversation with anon about emory's lack of background and ohmygod, it just came to mind that wow, emory's back story is really the most mysterious, huh? And not in a good way, but in a bad author-really-dgaf way. Like, damn? We really dont know much about emory? I'd like to think she dated and all, but the relationships were not impactful enough to change nightfall. But i still dont understand, why tf does pd's mmc always be so obsessed of being overly fond of other women in their story? Like? Will and alex? Why is pd always so obsessed with this? But the women always stay virgin or not a hoe, again, pure! Ughhhhh purity!! Men can have fuck buddies and girl bff (kai, will) but girls got called out and lashed out for being close to men while their men didnt give a fuck about how they feel (kai with damon, lev and david and prety much any men in banks vicinity, wil with damon, aydin and any men emmy hooked up with while being #1 whore himself). The hypocrisy and double standard!!!! Adding another reason in my list to hate kai and will. No bcs it's easy to hate characters like michael, damon and aydin from the get go because theyre shit and they know it. But hypocrites like kai and will? They always get babied by female readers and i hate it!!!! Cant pd write just one book with fmc who's not a pure virgin with big bad sccary guy who treats her like shit? Ughhhhhhh did i say how much i hate the purity concept in her stories?

Now, another one that i got angry about after thinking about emory's lack of background story: pd had the time to make up that Aaron Palmer Fane name for Rika's baby, combining alex and will's name, and the middle name of Torrin (girl version of torrance) for one of willemmy's daughter, and Fane for damon's son, but she can't give the same energy for emmy's story, and banks' closure? Like those babies literally only came not until later, but they got their spotlights? I'm so pissed off! Uggghhhh like if pd was so obsessed with alex and will, why cant they just write them together? This is the case where authors wrote too much of unnecessary side characters and fans start siding with them instead of the fmcs. And then pd's say shit like "oh i planned this, you just dont understand". No her writing and planning was just whack, period. She shoudve hyped up emmy from the start in every single book. For one fact about alex, give emmy 3-4 extras. How the hell do you even plan your stories like this? Who's the main character now, im so angry! We literally got a scene of alex and will on a bike, but not willemmy? Got a scene of alex in willemmy's bed, but not willemmy hanging out? Even their godzilla movie date after was glossed over. Dont even mention the cove burning scene. Unpopular opinion, I understand the point of her being locked up and will's thought of it, but again, why is alex with him? Ughhhhhhhh im angry!!!!!!! And why the fuck is will so fucking bad at setting boundaries? And when willemmy talked in the carfax room, they prob did talk about boundaries, no? So why no scenes of that? Because pd didnt find that interesting? But will giving alex's cheek a sloppy kiss at the cove, howling like dogs and looking into each others eyes saying theyre mirrors are interesting? Interesting to whom? Ughhhh

another thing, i read on goodreads/ pd's website that the characters' birthdate were never something that she thought too much off until the story got published them and fans asked for them. Huh, what a great planner! Like at this point, i dont believe that shes a great planner at all. And i cannot unsee it but i feel like pd and damon are similar in the sense that what goes on in their doesnt match reality, thats why their rationale are stupid. Description doesnt match anything. Like?? It made me feel a bit disrespected as a reader because she kept on writing a but i felt gaslighted if i felt b, then her fans will attack me and say im dumb because i didnt believe a. Like why are you angry at me? Tell pd to write properly ten, how is it my fall, if im not the only reader who had this problem with her writing? Anyway, i guess No wonder banks' age doesnt make any sense, but then she doesnt give a fuck about banks as much either other than always making her self worth about men around her- damon, kai and gabriel. Idk, if i thinkabout all the way pd messed up hideaway and banks character, that'll be a whole other long rant that nobody probably gaf about, but me.

Tbh i really dont remember where i heard this but hideaway was actually her hardest book to write because corrupt was supposed to be a standalone, so she had to think of how kai and banks would work. So dont take my word for it!! But i can see why hideaway was like THAT. i guess by nightfall, she just wanted to end it. I mean she did took feedback to lessen alex's presence in fire night, thank god! And i remember one of her goodreads questions about having more diverse fmcs and pd said she couldnt because of banks' character and who she was related Too and tbh idek what to make of this, because i just read the extra on her site of banks stalking michael rika kai in the valentines extra, and that LITERALLY couldve been the prologue hideaway or epilogue for corrupt. Uggghh and not the epilogue of hideaway being damon pissing? Ughhhhhh i hate himmmm.

excuse me ko, i sound so hateful and whiny here but i only react to this to bad soap operas, because only bad soap kperas can me invested in their shitty stories like this. Im so angry but so invested? Idk but i think people who are still in the fandom are tough readers, because after my anger subside, i think i wont be touching this series again for real, these characters, these books, these stories and this author just make me angry!!! How do yall stay sane here. Your fanfics are one of the reason i like willemmy in an au. No but seriously, theyre so fun to read! I really appreciate the fanfics you put out for free, and all the games and fan things you do on your blogs! And unexpectedly, i didnt know i need that banks emmy hollow fic! Thank you for that female characters bonding 🥰

if you have any happy books or shows that i can watch with no angst or bullying, please do send my way 🥹🫶 i think i need a cleanse from this series

Heyyyy! I’m so happy you're b-ohhh…

And i actually read the bonus rikabanks and wtf? 🤮 i shouldve listened to you!!!!! Wtf?

Well. What can I say? Sometimes curiosity gets the better of you. Looks like you did the same thing a lot of us did: go looking for all the bonus material only to realize it doesn’t get better; it only gets worse. To this day, the only one I return to is the Hideaway deleted scene with Will. Does so much for my willemmy heart.

Why do i feel like dn series dont have any couples that will stay together for the rest of their lives?

You’re not the first to say that. Personally, I feel that these people will live the rest of their lives together, die together, and be buried together if only because no one else will put up with them (probably all at the same time if Damon gets any control, and knowing PD…)

(…am I implying that Damon will plan a murder/suicide plot, killing his wife and best friends when they reach age 80, because he can’t stand the idea of living without them, or them he? possibly.)

My least fav though would 100% be winter.

Your rant about Winter and purity cultural got me thinking a little bit. The majority of readers like to give Emmy multiple boyfriends and hook ups in her time away (I’m in the minority but that's for another time), but I truly feel that it would have given Winter’s character much more legitimacy if she was the one having hook ups.

Like, Rika’s history makes sense given how the Crist family was controlling and manipulating her.

And Banks’ virginity can be played as more of a power move. She grew up around men who treated women like toys, constantly being reminded that there’s a thin line between her and them. Her choice not to let them have access to her body, even if she had found someone other than Kai, gives her autonomy. She has the lock and key, no one else, not even Damon. It works for her character and situation.

But Winter? She was so angry with Damon after the truth came out. Not to mention, he opened her up to experiences she didn’t have before, but were suddenly taken away from her. It would have made so much sense if she had gone out and tried to erase him, tried to replace him, tried to capture whatever it was she felt in his arms with someone else, only to discover that it doesn’t work. No one else can do what Damon does for her, and she hates herself for it. Him too.

Even if she’s a little ashamed of herself, because she’s coming out of this “purity cultural” mindset, it’s fine. If she had multiple partners before her second chance with Damon, her knowing that it he’s the only one that she “works” with makes a lot more sense plot-wise. They’re messed up, but they’re messed up in similar ways, and that’s why it can’t be anyone else. Maybe that would have given Winter a bit more substance as a character, outside of being Damon’s soother. But what do you think?

and another thing that i wanna touch on: purity culture of this series.

You asked if I noticed it, and to be honest, on my first read, I didn’t. But this leads into another idea I’ve been thinking about lately, which is mostly unrelated except for the way my mind connected them.

I’ve watched a few youtube videos on how booktok and the like are promoting books, and why some of those books are just not good despite all the hype. And one person (can’t remember which video, but I’m sure this is not their opinion alone), suggested that part of the problem is the tropification of books.

Now, this doesn’t bother me. Knowing the tropes of books will get me to read the summary and then I decide from there. But that’s because I was raised on fanfiction. I didn’t have a lot of money growing up, and the library was not always easy to get to. But fanfiction was free and at my computer, and easy to access. Which means I was also exposed to all of the terms and phrases frequently used in dark romance (along with a lot of other obvious signs of lazy and cheap writing) and learned to ignore.

So the popularizing of features you’d normally only see if fanfiction/fandom spaces makes sense, because the people who were in fandom spaces when I was a teenager are now adults with money who decide what’s popular and what’s not; and therefore what gets published and picked up (and this isn't anything new, really. I think a bigger part of this is just that it's the natural evolution of the bodice rippers from years past).

And putting these thoughts together, I realized I read DN as if it were a mid-tier fanfic. I think it was written about as well a fanfic. Not that it was once FF and then turned into original fiction, like so many today. Just that it has the same level of skill and editing quality as a really good but not great, fanfic. That may be why I’m not as angry as other readers? And also why a lot of the more problematic issues went over my head? It’s the same things you overlooked to get some decently written work on ffn or ao3. Sometimes, you just had to put on your “no thoughts; just here for a good time” helmet and go.

I could be completely off on this. It’s a new idea I haven’t fully worked through, but might possibly have some merit.

That being said, it was very popular when I was a teenager – and given how hyped books with these features are today, I’m sure still is – to have a oversized, brooding, sometimes bloody MLI be totally whipped for the good girl, never seen a naked man without blushing, “he's going to ruin me and I'm going to let him,” FLI. Later, readers started calling for more empowered female characters. And some writers understood the assignment and some didn’t. PD seems to have tried to combined the two, with less than effective results.

And this goes back to my point about Winter. It’s not that this idea of “purity” doesn’t have its place, it’s how it’s used and what it says about the characters who are using it.

If Banks was a virgin by choice well into her 20s, good for her. That's a power move.

If Damon had to let go of this idea that Winter was only meant for him, of this “pure as freshly fallen snow”, and to see her worth despite it, it would have been good development.

But I think we both know that Banks being a virgin and Damon having those thoughts about Winter were not meant for character but because that’s what some readers find hot. Which is why it’s one, not enjoyable for all; and two, went straight over my head. What other people find hot has nothing to do with me. I’m still here for the character development (that never happened! I’m clearly madder about that).

But pd has never had a talent to write good female relationships either, her birthday girl book and fall away series are always fmcs fighting and putting other women down.

I tried reading bully but I don’t remember much from it. But to your point, I don’t understand why PD seems to always want women to fight, as if that’s the way to show their empowered. Like above, when readers started calling for stronger female characters, some writers took that to mean they wanted physically strong characters – which in some cases is legitimate. But it was soon made clear that that’s not what was asked for.

It seems that PD only finds female characters interesting if they’re willing to physically fight another woman because that shows…? Actually, I’m unclear what it shows, exactly. I would have loved if the girls in this story weren’t copy/paste versions of one another; if the things that made them strong was different and yet just as valid.

For example, if it was Rika’s capacity for forgiveness tempered with her growing backbone and refusal to be treated like a doormat was emphasized as what made her strong, and not her fencing/martial arts/willingness to hurt others.

If Winter had unmatched mental fortitude. I mean, come on, the girl still dances after going blind. She has resiliency. Why is she so weak when Damon’s not around? Why does she need Damon to tell her to raise her voice.

If Emory’s emphasized strength was her kindness despite her suffering, and not her ability to walk away from good things and endure massive amounts pain, which we see is mostly physical.

Again, for the most part, those are all good qualities, but usually it’s only the physical strength and willingness to use it that’s emphasized more than any other trait. And ruins them because them you have to make them be angry enough to physically fight, or want to, when these girls should be supporting each other.

I left Banks out above because her being able to physically fight is one of her more important features, and should be allowed to shine through. If the other girl’s abilities were scaled back, Banks being able to do what she does, having learned how to survive in Gabriel’s house, would have just been more outstanding.

It just goes back to having good female relationships means having a variety of women and a love of different types of personalities. I’m struggling to see PD truly enjoying characters, and more enjoying just certain plots and character traits. I think one thing that is clear is that PD is not the writer for me. Which is fine.

Maybe this was why alex was mad at emmy, among many other possible reasons than jealousy? Because emmy was her first female friend in the group who didnt start her relationship with alex being shit or judging to her from the start? And after everything still good to her? Because shes not to sincerely supportive female friendship like this? Or am i reaching?

It doesn’t really matter if you’re reaching, you’re in a fandom space now. Run with it!

I like the idea that Alex and Emmy’s relationship is unique because Emmy was the first girl to not judge her (and of all the girls, Emmy has the biggest reason to, but because she’s Emmy, all she wants if for Will to be happy). It would have been great if we could have seen Alex struggling with wanting to be Emory’s friend because of the kindness shown her, and wanting to protect Will from further hurt, which only Emmy had the ability to do. Alex wanting to be friends with both, but having to pick one because they’re on opposite sides of an issue is a real problem.

But there’s some arguing that idea because Alex left Emory exposed, and then said it’s partly because she wanted to see Emory and Will interacted. What were they, her little experiment?

There were a lot of ways that the Alex/Emory/Will issue could have been played that would have address their real issues without pitting Alex and Emory against each other the way they were, but then PD seems to love it when the girls fight, then kiss and make up.

Cant pd write just one book with fmc who's not a pure virgin with big bad sccary guy who treats her like shit?

Doesn’t PD’s new series feature this? Someone else will have to check, but I’m pretty sure. But I can’t vouch for how the mc treats the fmc.

pd had the time to make up that Aaron Palmer Fane name for Rika's baby, combining alex and will's name, and the middle name of Torrin….

This is not something I’ve discussed before but I hate PDs naming trend. What is the obsession with Fane?

Madden? Cool. Jett, nice. Indie? Would have loved if her middle name was actually Jones, because that would have been sooooo Willemmy, but I’m still hoping (stupidly) that Aspen has some real inspiration and not that they opened up a baby name book and picked the first name they saw.

But are we really surprised that the most thought when into how Rika and Damon named their kids?

Aaron Palmer – isn’t that a drink…wait, no. that’s Arnold Palmer.

Athos? An eight-year-old named herself after one of the three musketeers and where supposed to think that's cool and not totally contrived (and am I the only one who thinks it’s weird that Athos being eight technically means she was born when Rika was sixteen, which is when Corrupt first takes place…which kinda means that Michael and Rika sort of retroactively become teenage parents, as if Michael hadn’t let Rika leave that night? Like I wouldn’t be surprised if it was revealed that Athos’ birthday is in July - nine months after devil’s night.).

Dag??? Take Damon’s ability to name things away from him.

She shoudve hyped up emmy from the start in every single book. For one fact about alex, give emmy 3-4 extras.

Absolutely!!! That's so real. I’ve said it before and I’ll probably say it again, but Emory should have haunted Will the entire series. One hint in each book was not enough to sell how bad Will was truly affected by her. And if we had been given more hints, I think the shipping war probably wouldn’t have been so bad. Overall, we just needed more of Emmy’s presence throughout the series, even if she wasn’t on the page, to be really hyped for Willemmy.  

The way the idea of reading Nightfall and then going back through the series and seeing where Will was most affected by her grips me, and we never got that. ugghgh.

another thing, i read on goodreads/ pd's website that the characters' birthdate were never something that she thought too much off until the story got published them and fans asked for them.

Please don’t get me started on the birthdays/timeline. I’ve through enough.

Idk, if i thinkabout all the way pd messed up hideaway and banks character, that'll be a whole other long rant that nobody probably gaf about, but me.

I can name like two or three blogs that would love to hear your rant. Come on, don't keep them to yourself. Share.

Idk but i think people who are still in the fandom are tough readers, because after my anger subside, i think i wont be touching this series again for real, these characters, these books, these stories and this author just make me angry!!! How do yall stay sane here.

Truth. Like I said above, I wasn’t as angry as a lot of other readers, but I mourned the lost potential. I kept reading because of Emmy, and high (too high) expectations for what this could turn into and it never went in that direction.

The mourning led to ranting with a friend, which led to me writing fics to answer the questions I had and fill in the gaps, and try to capture some of that potential. But otherwise, I wouldn’t be here. The asks keep me around. The games fill in the time between the asks, and honestly, to try and help make some of it a little better. It’s fun to play with the idealized versions of the characters in my head. This is actually a great group dynamic and if PD would let them be friends instead of trying to find away that everyone can sleep with everyone despite the fact they made their favs related, I think we could have some fun.

There’s good things here, and I believe one day a talented enough artist or writer will come along and tap on that potential. Until then, we keep trying to find the joy in what’s left.

Your fanfics are one of the reason i like willemmy in an au. No but seriously, theyre so fun to read! I really appreciate the fanfics you put out for free, and all the games and fan things you do on your blogs! And unexpectedly, i didnt know i need that banks emmy hollow fic! Thank you for that female characters bonding 🥰

Honestly, from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much! Hollow was definitely a response to the scene I warned you not to read, and while I know the characters aren’t perfect replicas of PD’s, I needed it too. Just happy they can bring some joy to others like they helped me.

Um.. I am horrible with recommendations. I tend to read and watch the same things over and over again. I don’t have a lot of time to read, so it takes me forever to get through things, and then I don’t remember books by their tropes; just how they made me feel. Which is why even badly written things stick with me if I enjoyed myself.

I understand if you have no intentions of touching this series again (you mentioned before how goodreads reviews were saying you just need to get through corrupt and hideaway to get to kill switch, which is so opposite of what I tell readers. If you can’t stand corrupt, quit while you’re ahead), but to catch any of the books or shows I’m into, you’d just have to hang around, unfortunately. No pressure, though. Move on to brighter places if DN talk just doesn’t work for you. Make your fandom places fun.

Thanks for coming back! And thank you for your thoughts. I enjoyed them.

#asked and answered 276 #asked and answered #devil's night series stuff #devil's night series #series discussion #series rant

[old-stoneface]

so ive been listening to these podcasts by the production team "minnow beats whale", which are all podcasts meant to sound like theyre happening in real life, kind of like a loose arg type thing in the sense that its all presented as real life and fact and the main characters are like podcast hosts, and ive been trying really hard to put my gripes into words here...the shows have a wealth of information in them, but the characters feel bland and the emotions just Aren't There.

so i found out one of the creators of the podcasts wrote a novel ("rabbits" by terry miles) and i was like huh, okay, theres a good way to investigate what other people think of this without too much effort - i ended up finding a very comprehensive reddit thread on why several readers felt the book fell very flat. this comment summarizes my feelings perfectly:

such a great read of why the stories and podcasts by this little company always feel flat. its incredibly formulaic, the dialogue is stilted, and the protagonists have no personality. which is also why i have felt weird abt the protags of both the black tapes and tanis! its because theyre basically the same person. but voiced by two different people. so its like a copout.

the other problem i have with it, besides the failure to build tension, is that every conversation a protagonist has with a morally ambiguous character is like "answer all my questions now" and then the latter is like "yes okay. here is a vague two word answer" and the protag is like (showing basically no emotion at all, not even annoyance) "[repeats what the other character says]?" and the other character is like "yeah." and then thats usually it. there is No chemistry, there is no personality, there is vaguely competent storytelling that could be so much more effective in a different format. and the fact that these protags are all podcast hosts but theyre putting their extremely personal info online?? its so stupid. "we need to keep this a secret! but you all can hear the recording of my therapy session." you are stupid. this is a plothole.

anyway im glad i went looking for info on this book bc now i have the words to explain why the writing is bad and poorly developed

#sam.txt #save

[blueiight]

Oh i think they definitely WANT to eventually crossover many seasons down the line but as their first season showed, critical and audience reception is prob a major factor in whether they will. I don't see them diluting their more acclaimed show w/ their critical flop (not even just critics, it even has a rotten audience score). That's why I think they're just doing minor teases so far and not making one show rely on anything in the other, that way if one show doesn't work out they don't lose anything.

The showrunners for MW are from Masters of Sex which is a pretty good show but I feel like are wrong for this genre and the writing is just so generic and the actors are not enjoying themselves prob cause their dialogue sucks. No one has any chemistry with A. Daddario either cause she's so bland. My prediction is if the show remains kinda buzzless by Season 3 they'll stick Lestat over there for a season and see if that helps lol. But i feel quite certain they're not going to interfere with anything until IWTV and TVL are done first, cause those are like the essentials.. after that I don't think anyone would care if they start departing from the books lmao

Omg its amc mayfair ether hours in my inbox😂😂😂😂😂😂 yo why did amc do this . for ppl who once made a show called masters of sex this mayfair adaptation sounds rather unsexy according to what ive been told which is insane cuz i think tongayi chirisa is so incredibly attractive & has loads of sex appeal in the promo photos of cip lol. & i agree i dont think theyll throw in the crossover so early on n i do wonder if they ever will if mw keeps getting shit lol but i do think theyll have to draw upon other books esp for armand + daniel [qotd, tva] & for any other subsequent charas introduced in s2 of iwtv & s3 esp tvl wise thats when so many lore necessary charas r introduced …

#yn. #yn answers

[idledee]

a ballad to hope, weaved by you and i

#bravely default #bravely second #bravely default 2 #tiz arrior #agnes oblige #ringabel #edea lee #yew geneolgia #magnolia arch #seth #gloria #adelle #elvis #how come i just noticed the bd2 do not have last naems #so THATs why their chemistry is so bland -_-;;;; #bravely default 2 is so boring i say (current game file 65+ hours) #doods #anyywaayys this style SLAPS but it waso so oo hard #to figure out #and the comp too like i redid it 5 times and gave up for a da;y and then i put on some good ol shounen rock and GAVE IT MY ALL

[chocominnie]

One Last Time 01  —  Pjm. (M)

⇢ pairing: Jimin X Reader

⇢ Genre: Idol!Jimin, Exbf!Jimin, model!reader, sad au, fluff, tons of smut, angst

⇢ Synopsis: Your idol ex boyfriend Jimin cheated on you. You two have been broken up for a while now and the media has been keeping track of you and him. You’re trying to get over him, but the things that happen inbetween makes you re-think the entire breakup, and so does Jimin…

⇢ Song : xxxxx

⇢ Word Count : 4.3k

⇢ Warnings: dominant jimin, makeout sessions, this is honestly a sad angsty au, cheating, pregnancy, unprotected and protected sex, a bunch of sex, no really a LOT of sexual themes too, I know I’m forgetting some but sorry in advance!

⇢ Copyright: please do NOT repost, translate, or modify my works in any way, shape or form, on any platform. If found doing so , it is considered as plagiarism and appropriate LEGAL action will be taken

⇢ Authors note: This is my mini series for the summer! Get your tissues, things to take your anger out on, and sit back and watch the drama unfold. Shall we begin?

The winter’s coldness is hardly enough for you to bear. Even though it’s just the beginning, Seoul is known to just go from season to season without a fucking warning. Not only that, but the first snowfall is going to come soon. The weatherman has been talking about it non-stop for the past few days. It’s going to be a brutal one he says but he says that every year so why believe?

Turning off your alarm, you take a few minutes to collect yourself and stretch. Barely any sleep once again but that’s an everyday thing now.. without Jimin. It’s been some rough months not having his body wrapped snugly onto yours. These days you long for his touch, but completely dread at the same time for very good reasons.

Your kitten greets you with small licks on your thigh in which in return you pet her head softly with a smile.

‘‘ At least I still have you babygirl. You keep me company. “ You coo softly while grabbing your phone off the charger. Texts from your best-friend just spamming you with love and apparently she’s coming over. Great. That’s normal.  But one text catches your eye. Jeon Jungkook.

You furrow your eyebrows as your finger slides to open it after typing in your password. In relief, he’s just checking up on you as always. Rolling your eyes, you muster enough strength to actually pull yourself out of bed. The cold tiles hit your feet like icicles. You jump from from foot to foot cursing yourself for not turning on the floor heaters as you walk out the room. Clara, your kitten, follows you out purring nonchalantly with a few meows here and there.

‘’ Alright Clara I hear you. Im getting your food now.’’ You chuckle, grabbing her food from the bottom kitchen cabinet right under the sink and pour her half a cup of cat food and a whole bowl of water.

After snacking on your morning granola bar you prepare yourself for your morning routine. Shower, brush teeth, skin care, get dressed, clean. Your phone dings once more just before stripping yourself of your clothes. You don’t bother to look it’s probably just a social media notification.

Drying your hair with a towel as you get out the steaming hot shower, you head straight for the mirror. Dark circles remain under your eyes from months of barely any sleep. You sigh, and gently rub under them. Jimin is the cause of this. Why would he do this to you. Surely enough he would not like to see you like this at all. The worriedness he would have over you is huge. But he has moved on and you just have to accept it no matter how in-love you still are with him.

As you clean up around the living room, another ding from your phone occurs. A groan escapes your lips as you place the pillows back as they should be. In hopes of it just being your manager giving you some good news, you let out a sigh and plop yourself down on the grey suede couch. Three new messages. Jeon Jungkook, who has text you twice, and Ryan your bestfriend. 

‘‘ Damn it Ryan why must you consistently text me twenty four sev- “

“ Beause I need to know if you’re okay.”

You jump and drop your phone onto the hardwood floor from the voice that comes from around you.

“ Holy fucking shit you scared me! “  You whine, turning around to face your best-friend. She smiles and holds out her arms for a hug. You roll your eyes and open yours waiting for her embrace.

“ Oh i’ve missed you so so so so so so so-”

“ You just seen me yesterday..” Your voice sarcastic and bland as you let go of her. You sit on the couch first followed by Ryan sitting right next to you.

She looks good today, the navy blue coat she has on suits her very well. Although, you cannot figure out why she decided to wear leggings today. It’s going to rain a bit later but you disregard that seeing as though she’s the fashion deisgner and not you.

You. The model and seemingly ex girlfriend of one of the biggest solo idol in the world right now. Thats what they call you in the news, headlines in magazines, and real life as if you don’t have a real name and just was his acessory. Your modeling career had taken off way before dating him. The world, or Seoul to say the most, didn’t acklowledge you to that point yet. 

“ Okay but still. You know we should be roomates. It’ll be easier for me to watch over you. “

Your head turns towards her quickly shaking no, “ I don’t need to be looked over im 20 years old.”

Silence takes place for the next few seconds. You know what she’s going to say next but pray she doesn’t. Those words will just make you even more upset. It’s already enough you have that constant reminder in your head. 

You watch her fiddle with the rings on her index and pinky fingers. “ But you know… you haven’t been the same since you and Jimi-”

“ Don’t fucking say it. I don’t want to hear it.”

She sighs harshly and stands up, “ Im just worried about you Yn”

“ Don’t be. Im fine. “ That lie escaped your tongue way too easily. 

Truthfully you haven’t and won’t be fine. Everyday there is something new about that girl and Jimin on twitter. Gossip pages, twitter fanpages, and online entertainment pages just always talking about them. They did this, they did that today. Oh we caught them going to this and that restaurant. That used to be you and him.. but now everyone has forgotten about you and focused on them.

Ever since you’ve told reporters and paparazzi repeatedly that you will not be holding or going to any interview they just stopped. A few calls here and there to your manager about scheduling one but she knew you didn’t want to do them so every request is denied. Although its been a year and some change, they still seem to want your side and your opinion to weigh in on. I guess that’s what happens when you date an Idol.

“ The door.. Y/N the door somebody is at the door.” Ryan says, tapping you over and over. You shake your head interrupting your thoughts for the time being. A few more knocks come through.

Finally up onto your feet you harshly walk to the door with each step making noise. It’s to early in the morning for someone to actually be knocking at the door right now. Whoever it is better be dropping off some sort of package, or they’ll surely get a piece of your mind.

Your frail hands grab onto the doorknob and swing it open. Your eyes almost pop through your sockets. How? How did he know you were here? You certainly did not tell him your knew address.

There he stands, his tall frame looking down on you. Lips formed into a tiny pout along with his eyebrows scrunched slightly. His brown eyes forming an ungodly stare into yours with his specs on.

“ Yn! Do you know how worried I was about you? Why did you not answer my messa-”

“Jungkook how do you know where I live?” You pace your hands on your hips, raising an eyebrow at him. To your knowledge, you never gave Jungkook your new apartment address.

Jungkook swallows slowly and puts on his best innocent face on. Oh please like that would work in this moment right now. The only person who has this address is Ryan because she’s the one who helped you move. Even if you had the choice of not giving it out to Ryan you would of but you couldn’t do that to her. She would of been so upset.

Ryan’s voice blares in the background full of excitement. Here we fucking go. “Jungkook! Come in Come in.”

“ Ryan says I could come in.” He says quickly, brushing past you and removing his shoes.

You heavily sigh and slam the door shut. What is this a family reunion? On your way back to the couch you notice them laughing and giggling like two five year old children. They don’t even notice you when you sit right across from them.

You study their expressions. Their chemistry is something so strong. The way their eyes light up when they meet, the way that Jungkook smiles and scrunches his nose more often when she’s around. You miss that. You miss doing that.

“ So are you both coming along this afternoon?”

Your attention focuses back on them. Of course you weren’t paying attention once again.

Your eyes slowly meet with theirs, “ Huh? Where are we going?”

“ Kookie finally bought a house! He wants us to come tonight for chicken and beer. You’re coming right?”

A sharp pain goes through your heart. If the both you you guys go then theirs a possibility that Jimin was invited too. After all, that is his brother. If Jimin comes then he’s most likely going to bring Isabel. A recipe for disaster. Your poor heart, that most likely could not bare the sight of them infront of you, would shatter into a million pieces.

Jungkook’s expression is ready to burst into happiness or to turn into a pout awaiting for your answer. If you let him down he’ll surely be mad at you. But putting yourself before him this time would be the right thing to do right?

“ Listen Jungkook I.. don’t think I can go.” You start off, playing with your hair with your head down.

“ I’ll space you two apart.”

Your face automatically lifts itself up in shock. Somehow, that little confirmation of Jimin being there, gave you some hope. Hope for what though?

 “ Wha-what do you mean?”

Jungkook sighs heavily with his hand going up to his brown hair running it through lightly. “ I’ll make sure you two are distanced apart. You don’t want to come because of Jimin but I’ll make sure I’ll invite more people to keep you company and away from him. Okay?”

“ Please Yn. I’ll be there too.” Ryan begs, laying her head on Jungkook’s shoulder. Jungkook smiles a little, caressing her cheek with his other hand upon waiting your response.

Weird. When did they get so close?

The first thing you want to say is that you really could not go. But they already know the excuse now. You might as well just give in.

‘‘ Fine. What time tonight? “

Skincare and makeup products are scattered everywhere on your vanity. You needed the perfect look for tonight that says ‘Yes im doing fine without you’, but in reality you’re doing worse. This is the night where you’ll actually see him. Damn it’s been a while.

After you apply your highlight you step back and take a look at yourself. Not bad at all. You smile to yourself and start cleaning up the mess of products you had  distributed across the vanity. A new text appears on you phone as soon as you gather everything up and put it back in it’s place. Grabbing your phone, it’s Ryan giving you the address to Jungkook’s new house.

You sigh and mentally prepare yourself, ‘‘ Okay Yn. You can do this. It’s just one night of conversing among people. Who knows, maybe you’ll meet someone new.”

Before heading out you grab your coat and scarf. Clara follows you all the way to the door letting out her little meows once again. You bend down to pet her head lightly with a smile. “ Clara im coming back. I’ve put food in your bowl babygirl.”

She purrs under your touch then walks away to settle herself in her bed. You take one last final look at your decent sized apartment before heading out.

The subway ride was agonizing pain for you due to it being 30 minutes long. Well, at-least you can ride the subway now. Your mind wouldn’t even of thought of that when you were with him. Everybody would have noticed you and bombard you with questions.

The outskirts of Seoul is peaceful and quite. Not many people live over here. Mostly famous actors and idols. The taxi takes a few minutes to get to the fairly clean subway station. Once you’re inside you take a good look at the driver who seems to be eyeing you in suspicion. You pull out your phone and read the words to the address exactly to him. The taxi man pulls of into the empty streets of god knows where.

All it took was a ten minute ride and then you’re there. The taxi man pulls up to a security guard booth. Just beyond the gates is more street but  by squinting your eyes you can make out just a few newly built houses.

‘‘ Who are you here to see?” The taxi driver says.

“ Jeon Jungkook.?

The driver talks to the man for a few seconds before you see the security guard pick up a phone and start dialing. The security is extremely uptight, thats good. After a few moments of speaking the security guard finally opens the gates to be let through.

As you pull up to the house you’re automatically mesmerized on how big and beautiful it is. There’s fresh bushes and some white roses growing in the front of it complementing the white modern style home. The roundabout is full of luxurious cars, in which might be all the other guests.

‘‘ 10 dollars’‘ He says. You give him the ten, thank him, and grab your purse, closing the door behind you.

Your eyes meet face to face with the expensive house. Behind you is the tire wheels backing up and running off back down the roundabout. The time on your watch reads 8:15. Only fifteen minutes late, not bad right?

With each step you take fear quivers inside of you. What if he opens the door? What if that girl opens it instead? The wind blows harsh-fully hitting your cheeks making them turn slightly colored. You raise a small, shaky fist to knock on the door. Your blood turning cold, and face turning pale already. Your anxiety already taking its place inside of your body.

The door swings open revealing Ryan smiling from ear to ear. She pulls you inside without even a greeting. You kick your shoes off in a hurry as she pulls you more and more inside. Scanning the area around you, its a nice huge place. First the both of you pass the entrance, then the chef sized kitchen, which then leads you to the spacious living room where everybody seems to be sitting.

All eyes are on you now with some familiar faces and some not. They smile and greet you one by one and you slightly bow your head with a fake smile.

‘‘ Ah Yn, nice to see you again huh.’‘ Hoseok, the smiley one says, getting up from his seat to greet you once more.

‘‘ Nice to see you to Hoseok. Is Chae-Yeon here? I’ve baked the cookies she likes.’’  You say, holding up the big tuba-wear of freshly baked cookies. Nobody can resist those.

‘‘ No she had to work sadly, but I will enjoy them for her.’‘ He chuckles, bringing the tuba-wear out of your dainty, cold hands.

A very familiar voice booms from behind you causing you to turn around. “ Yn! You actually did come!’’ Jungkook, the owner of the voice exclaims. He wipes his hands with a napkin just before pulling you into a hug.You pat his back just before letting go.

Ryan smiles and shakes her head, “ I told you she would come.’’

Only one hour and 30 minutes into the festivities and half of the people here are drunk or nearly there. You on the other hand do not drink at all. Staying sober throughout this whole party is a must. Who knows what would happen if you start drinking and saying things.Ryan seems to be doing good with Jungkook who’s laying on the floor laughing and cracking jokes with her head laying on his stomach giggling along with him. The others have casually invited themselves into the guest game-room to play some pool.

You just sit there on the couch, munching on a cookie and smiling and laughing here and there at one of Seokjin and Jungkook’s back-to-back jokes that seem to never leave the air.

Only for a knock on the door to interrupt  their flow of jokes.

‘‘ I got it I got it.” Seokjin stammers, placing a beer bottle down and stumbling towards the door. You freeze, face turning pale once more. It’s them. It could be them. Your teeth find their way to your lips and you begin to chew on it excessively.

Ryan notices it and automatically gets up from Jungkook, ‘‘ Come Yn, lets go see if the game of pool is interesting.’‘

You nod your head slightly as you get up from the couch. What are you worrying for? You look extravagant tonight. No need to worry yourself.

Just before taking your first few steps you stop, that voice. That oh so familiar voice begins to inch closer and closer. The famous laugh that he always tries to stifle by putting his hand over his mouth, that you’ve always thought was so fucking cute, fills the air.

You don’t know what got over you, but you sit back down dragging Ryan down with you. “ Yn? What are you doing I thought you wanted to avoid him.’’

‘’ No it’s okay. Im going to be fine.’‘ You say, awaiting upon his arrival into the room.

The footsteps are haunting you with each step they take.

one..two..three..four..five..si-

‘‘ Everyone, Isabel and Jimin are here.’‘ Seokjin stammers, smiling wide clearly drunk from all the beer consumed.

Your eyes go directly towards his. The pit of your stomach flutters with nervousness as you hold the long stare with him. His facial expression shocked but not showing it at all. His partner, who’s arm is linked with his, smiles brightly at everyone bowing her head slightly to them including you.

‘‘ Sorry we are late. Jimin didn’t want to come out of his home studio but I’ve made him come along with me.’‘ Her voice gentle and soft.

‘‘ Yn I forgot let me show you my new painting i have received.” Jungkook says quickly, trying to escape you from the awkwardness.You can bare it though its not as bad as you thought.

‘‘ Maybe later Kookie. I’m going to grab some juice.”  You say, getting up from your spot. You brush past Jimin lightly with Ryan tailing along with you.

The spacious kitchen was perfect for you to escape for just a moment. Silence is golden. Ryan sighs, pouring you and her a glass of juice. Nothing is to be said yet. But you know she really wants to have her input.

Raising the glass to your lips, you take a sip letting the tanginess run across your tongue and down your throat. ‘’ Say it Ryan.’’

She puts her cup down and looks at you with your eyebrows furrowed, ‘’ You aren’t fine. Please just avoid them for the night.’’

You knew it was coming but you have to face the fact that they area couple anyways so why avoid it? Maybe your mind will finally accept it to see it in person.

‘‘ I have to face it one way or another so why not now?’‘

She shakes her head in disapproval, finishing the rest of her juice. “ No you don’t. You’re making yourself suffer and I don’t like it.’’

‘‘ Yn.. did you make these cookies?’‘ A voice says behind you. Ryan’s eyes go wide and then looks at you signaling for you to not turn around. But you do it anyways.

Isabel. How dare she call you by a pet name? You don’t even know her like that and she’s doing this. Anger wants to get the best of you but you remain humble and calm.

‘‘ Yes. Is there a problem though? Are they not good?’‘ You say, putting on your best innocent act.

She smiles as she moves a piece of hair of her perfectly framed face, ‘’ No they are great! I was wondering if i can have the recipe.. for Jimin’s purpose of course.’’

You breathe through your nostrils with your eyes closed. She knows what she’s doing. She likes seeing you suffer huh? ‘’ You can follow any recipe online. I just add almond extract and substitute white sugar for brown.’’

Ryan shakes her head slightly while sticking her cup into the sink. ‘’ I’m going to be back I have to use the restroom.’’

Once she leaves Isabel’s smile drops.’’ Almond? Im- Im allergic!” She says, semi yelling at you. You’re shocked more or so at the sudden outburst that you can’t speak. You had zero knowledge of her being allergic, it’s an accident for sure.

 “You did this on purpose!’’ She says, tears filling her eyes as she goes into a coughing fit.

Shit. You didn’t know if anyone was allergic to nuts here but you had put it in anyways because that was the secret ingredient

‘’ I- I didn’t know im sorry is there anything I can do?’’ You say, guilt taking over you while you rush to her side patting her back. 

‘‘ Get off of me! You did this on purpose! You never liked me anyways. Jimin! Jimin!‘ She scream’s, coughing and wheezing making her face red.

Multiple footsteps rush into the kitchen. You don’t know what to do at this point so you just back away and let whoever take over. All the commotion going on and yelling is starting to give you a slight headache. All of the boys surround her, bombarding with questions and asking each other what to do. 

‘‘ What’s all the yelling about? What happened! “ Jungkook exclaims rushing towards her hunched over body.

‘‘ What’s going on? “ That voice that haunts you everynight finally comes inside the kitchen. When he see’s Isabel he automatically rushes towards her side. It pains you to see him rush to another woman’s body. But that figure is no longer yours so he has every right to do that.

‘‘ She-She put almond in the cookies on purpose! She’s trying to–to-’‘ She manages to wheeze out before another coughing fit.

Jimin’s eyes meet yours full of rage but then taken over by concern. He knows your hurt. Still hurt from the past and from this very situation now. You don’t manage to keep eye contact, so the floor is your eyes’ bestfriend right now.

‘‘ Yn. is this true? Why would you do that?”  He says, eyes never leaving yours and voice soft.

You shake your head quickly, “ I didn’t know she was allergic. I always put almond extract an-’’

“ You knew better than to put any type or form of nut in a dish when bringing it to ones house. You never know if someone has an allergy to it.’‘ Jungkook scolds you, eyes furrowed in shame.

‘‘ Don’t blame her. She didn’t fucking know.” Ryan’s voice enters the room in madness. She comes to your side with her arms crossed. Your own personal savior. Without her, you’d still be feeling guilty and taking the blame.

‘‘ Besides, you knew better than to invite him if you knew he was going to bring the girl he cheated on her with.. right?’‘ She says, cocking her head to the side as her attitude takes over.

The room is silent again. Good girl Ryan. 

Isabel lifts her head in disbelief along with Jimin. “ Listen that’s beside the point. Just don’t do it again.” Jimin says, focusing his attention back on Isabel. He reaches into her purse to grab her Epi-pen.

His scolding is enough to send your eyes into tears. You shouldn’t of agreed to come. This is a disaster. You take the tuba-wear of cookies from the counter on your way out of the kitchen and dispose of them. Your vision is blurry and you don’t know where your going but you just need some air. You make lefts and rights down long and short hallways till you reach a room that has a balcony.

You slip on who-ever’s house slippers and open the sliding door revealing the winter’s cold harsh air. You lean on the railing and close your eyes breathe in and out heavily.

Wiping the tears away, You open our eyes and look straight ahead. The whole city is lit up such a beautiful view for a sad moment. The sad moment is cut short by the sliding door opening and closing. You don’t bother to turn around it’s probably just Ryan checking on you again. When are people going to stop doing that?

“ Yn.”

Thats the last voice you wanted to hear.

‘‘ Are you happy? Happy for scolding me infront of everybody.”  You sniffle, wiping away your leaking nose.

You hear some rustling before something is placed on your shoulders. You look down at the material and shrug it off of you.

‘‘ Give it to your girlfriend.”

‘‘ I can’t let you be cold. Put it back on.’‘ He sighs, picking it back up and coming closer to you. You both stand side by side. Jimin puts his jacket around you once more and before you could re-do your action just before, he speaks.

‘‘ Shrug it off again and I’ll scold you. Do you understand?’‘ He says firmly.

You don’t bother to speak. Silence is golden.

‘‘ Listen.. i know you still aren’t over the fact that we are through but-”

‘‘ Shut up. I don’t want to hear it. Please go tend to your dying girlfriend.’‘ You say, sarcastically.

He huffs, “ She’s resting right now. She wouldn’t have to be if you wouldn’t of put-’’

You turn towards him slowly and meet his eyes daring for him to finish the rest of his sentence. ‘’ Don’t you fucking dare Park Jimin.’’

‘‘ Honorifics.’‘ He says, slightly looking down at you due to the height difference.

‘‘ You’re right Jimin-ssi.’‘

Jimin’s expression is taken a-back. You knew that one honorific word would hurt him.

‘‘ If we are done speaking I will take my leave now.” You say, eyes never leaving his as you take off his jacket and toss it to him, leaving him outside in the cold

This night was one of your worst mistakes. You thought you could handle it, but couldn’t. So maybe Ryan and Jungkook were right. Maybe you can’t handle it at all..

#jimin #park jimin #idol jimin #idol!jimin #idol ! jimin #jimin scenario #jimin fanfic #jimin smut #jimin fluff #jimin one shot #jimin imagine #bts imagine #bts imagines #jimin imagines #bts smut #bts fluff #bts angst #jimin angst #jimin sad #sad jimin #bts reaction #jimin reaction #bts scenarios #bts scenario #jungkook fluff #jungkook angst #jungkook fanfic #jungkook smut #jungkook #jeon jungkook

[lightmycandle]

Things I Learned From NYTW RENT AKA

Stringing Together My Incoherent Thoughts

Voice Mail #1

- The speakkk in this sounds like they hate life. Honestly same.

- Roger worked at a bar and was fired

- Mark was cut off financially

Splatter

- IM SORRY WHAT

- 20 seconds of awful Roger music and then the opening number starts playing?

- This sounds much slower

- WHAT THE ACTUAL-

- ????

- TW SUICIDAL THOUGHTS: MARK WANTS TO KILL HIMSELF BY JUMPING OUT THE WINDOW

- THATS WHY THIS SONG IS CALLED SPLATTER

- THIS IS SO MORBID

- Oh ok that’s not Adam

- What is going on with this music? It gets weirdly faster but immediately slows down im so confused

- Mark is definitely taking his and Maureen’s breakup harder here

- Every time they say “last month’s rent” instead of “last year’s rent” it throws me off

- The transition to “you ok honey” is just not it

- I can’t get over how different Collins and Joanne sound

- Ngl I miss my bass baritone Collins :(

- There is absolutely no chemistry in Cangel’s interaction whatsoever

- I’m still so shocked over how morbid this is-

- So basically Marker are both very much not ok

- The reason Mark’s parents cut him off was because he wasn’t a business major?

- I’m so glad they changed the ending to “cause everything is rent”

- Well, that was an experience

You’re A Fool

- “For someone cool you’re a fool” and then Mark’s little dejected “I know” 💀

- Do Marker even like each other? Or are they both just depressed besties-

- “Some of our parents don’t pay our bills” isn’t Mark cut off??

- “Mr. Negative cause he’s HIV positive” is such a low blow, I can’t believe that was once a Mark line considering he’s always supporting Roger, as well as telling him to go out and talking sense into him

- The lyrics are a bit bland and somewhat mean but overall I’m vibing to the music

- Ok so Mark still does try to get Roger to go out

- “I don’t fit in anymore, all right?!” hurts. I don’t know if he’s saying that because he feels as though he needs to spend all his time writing or if he’s saying that because he’s just depressed and he doesn’t have the energy to do the things he once loved

- Mark is obviously very upset at the thought of Roger dying, but doesn’t want to show it too much. He just wants to make as many memories as he can with him, and wants him to at least have fun and be surrounded by people who love him before he goes. So now I’m starting to see more of final-version-Rent Mark poke through.

- “If you only knew - I spend so much time obsessing, it’s depressing.” Woah I actually relate a lot to that Mark w h a t

- I kinda love how we get to see Mark’s personality and know a bit more about him. In the final version, we don’t really know a lot about Mark because he’s basically narrating (which is fine) until Roger calls him out before he leaves for Santa Fe

- WOAH HOW THE TABLES HAVE TURNED

- THEYRE CALLING EACH OTHER OUT NOW JUST LIKE THEY DO IN GOODBYE LOVE

Today 4 U

- THEY REALLY CHANGED THE ORDER A LOT HUH

- “Whose music is the purest on the Bowery I believe” ANGEL AS A BOWERY BEAUTY NEWSIES AU

- This song sounds the closest to the final version

- “toDay for you”

- The only difference so far that I’ve noticed is that Angel says “work so well” instead of “go so well”

- THE LINE DELIVERY FOR “That dog is now in doggy hell” I AM SCREAMING

Do A Little Business

- What exactly is going on in this song

- ✨ Benny is unhinged 😍 ✨

- LOL MARK IS SO ENTHUSIASTIC TO SEE HIM /s

- I forgot Angel was even here 💀

- “What kind of hag - I mean dog, do you have?” I AM LOSING IT

- “Evita’s an Akita” “Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.” JAIL

- I’m actually scared of Benny this man is vicious what is going on

- What is with the random Today 4 U music but at the end??

- I guess Mimi doesn’t exist 😍

Female to Female A

- If they would’ve kept this, then in Take Me or Leave Me Maureen would’ve been projecting because she’s being a little controlling rn

- Maureen’s manipulativeness is already showing

- “It’s times like these I really appreciate Mark” YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT-

Come to the Meeting

- I like the “Benny was a dilettante, Benny met a debutante” lyric a lot

- Roger has a car that originally belonged to April

- Angel asks about April instead of Mimi, because she simply does not exist 😍

- Mark honey you’re being a bit too harsh

- TW SELF HARM: I think I’m having trouble with the context clues here but I think Roger was a cutter :/

- Well this is just upsetting, I just feel really bad for these fictional characters ugh

He Says

- WOAH THIS IS THE SAME MELODY TO GOODBYE LOVE

- “He says he doesn’t think that love is possible anymore” “It’s not!” HEAVY FORESHADOWING. Mimi has to exist now, it only makes sense

- “One day I’ll/he’ll fix that car she left me/him and fly” Does this mean Roger’s success or his death??

- Gosh I feel a lot more sympathy for Mark in this version. Before, in the final version, I felt sorry for him because I could only imagine how scary it was for him to be the “one of us to survive” but at the same time he literally came from Scarsdale. Like sir you come from a rich neighborhood, have parents that seem to care about you and you’re out here claiming to be a struggling artist? At least you can just move back upstate when it gets too rough, the others can’t. However at the same time I wondered if maybe his family were toxic and controlling; but in this one I know a bit more about the backstory

- “I don’t believe a word he says.” I SERIOUSLY LOVE MARK. THATS ALL.

- I swear I recognize the melody at the very end of this song but I can’t pinpoint it

- OH MY GOSH

- OH NO IM GONNA CRY

- ROGER IS SINGING THE BEGINNING OF “WILL I” AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HIS ONE GREAT SONG AT THE SAME TIME AND SHHSHSBSUSBGAU

- My heart HURTS

- I kinda wish this would’ve been kept in, it’s so real and raw (the whole musical is but still)

The Right Brain

- ONE SONG GLORY YES

- Wait what never mind it’s called the right brain and has completely different lyrics

- “I lost my map” DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MAP ANYBODY MAYBE HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW-

- I really really like this but I can see why the lyrics were changed

- Roger screaming “right brain” instead of “glory” is absolutely sending me

- Someone called this the Zombie Version of Rent and I am crying

- That final “riiiiiight braaaaiiiinnnnn” PLEASE

- I AM SO CONFUSED

- WAIT A MINUTE

- Oh. Ok. So there’s… that.

- I’m cringing ahhh

- Oh gosh that was so off key I can’t

- This song is such a bop I’ve replayed it again but “time diiiiiiiiiiies, right braaaaaaaaainnnnn, can’t find the riiight braiiinn” 💀💀💀💀💀

- OH MY GOSH LIGHT MY CANDLE IS STARTING EVERYONE BE QUIET

- “The door!” This song really broke my already broken humor

Light My Candle

- Why does this sound like Contact?

- Oh ok there’s the LMC I know and love

- I kinda liked that buildup

- “I’m not going?” MARK??

- MIMI EXISTS!!!!!!

- Wait is this Daphne? It sounds a lot like her but doesn’t at the same time

- “What?” OK ITS DEFINITELY DAPHNE

- The knock sounds so loud in this one considering how soft they’re singing

- IM USED TO HEARING ROGERS DISBELIEVING GIGGLE WHEN HE SAYS “WHAT” BUT THIS “WHAT” MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD THIS MAN IS PROBABLY IN A TRANCE

- Someone said Roger sounds high and I couldn’t agree more lol. Also Mimi sounds somewhat ghostly to me? Does that make sense? As if she’s just some sort of phantom drifting along. I feel like Renée Elise Goldsberry’s Mimi acted ghostly during LMC too and Daphne’s was more desperate but fiery? I’ve always loved both portrayals of it, but it’s interesting to see the changes. I think because this version is significantly slower and feels almost deathly is the reason why she sounds like this

- “Here it-oh, no.” ROGER REALIZING HIS DUMB MISTAKE LOL

- “A candy bar wrapper” THAT WAS AWFUL(LY GOOD) VOICE ACTING. MIMI DEFINITELY DOESNT BELIEVE YOU NOW SO 10/10

- The “Mimi” part is a little longer

- LMC is the best song in Rent, no I am not taking any criticism - it just is

On the Street/Voice Mail #2

- The way this guy says “Christmas bells are ringing” 💀

- Joanne’s parents call her “Muffin” instead of “Kitten”

Female to Female B

- “It’s times like these I really appreciate Mark” “I heard you before” “How can someone so bright be so utterly in the dark?” I’m forming the Joanne Deserves Better club, does anyone want to join? /j

- “Isn’t it enough that I put up everyday with a temperamental, selfish, abusive-” YES JOANNE CALL HER OUT

- “And sexy.” *Rolls eyes*

- This song is actually really good

- Gosh their relationship is so toxic in this

- “I love you Maureen!” *a few seconds later* “I hate you Maureen!”

Another Day

- ANOTHER DAY LETS GO

- “No.” IM SCREAMING IM SO USED TO ADAM’S DRAMATIC, DESPERATE “NO!”

- I love the “Come back another day, another dayyyy, annnottther another daaayyy!” and the change in music

- “Your pain I see, your heart’s been burned. You’re just like me before I learned” THIS IS BOTH SO HEARTBREAKING AND SENSITIVE.

- “No other way” OK DAPHNE

- Im so glad “Honey get real, here’s the deal - it’s time for you to book I mean look you’re cute but I don’t buy that spiel” was cut. It drags the song on unnecessarily

- “Your anger’s real but just beware it’s a waste to feel that fate’s unfair, there’s no such thing as tragedy I can’t resent what’s meant to be” W H Y W A S T H I S C U T

On the Street #2

- THIS WHISTLING I JUST SNORTED

- I mean, I can’t whistle either so I shouldn’t be talking

- “Ahnest living man! 😒 *cartoon car skiddering noises* Feliz Navidad! 🙄”

- Why does “evening officers” sound so ominous-

- I can’t tell if the person playing the blanket/homeless person is running out of breath or if the audio was somehow cut

- Ok I think it’s the audio, Angel sounded really quiet for a second

Santa Fe

- Collins’ voice never ceases to surprise me

- “I preach!” “Hallelujah!” I did not expect that-

- “I beat the drum of apocalypse like orchestras on sinking ships” Is this a reference to both the aids epidemic and Titanic?

- It sounds like Collins says “you’re a sensitive a see” instead of “you’re a sensitive aesthete”

- “We’ll open up a restaurant” and “gains gains gains” interesting change??

I’ll Cover You

- The beginning is very very different

- “We’ll never be that desperate” “You’ll never have to be”

- OK ANGEL COME THROUGH WITH THE VOCALS YES AND THIS MUSIC OK

- “Open your door” Um no not with you sounding like that

- I AM LOSING IT SOMEONE SAID THIS CANGEL SOUNDS LIKE AN EPISODE OF CRIMINAL MINDS

- I miss the “yea yea yea yea yea” :(

Will I?

- Dang not them going from a (semi creepy) love song to a heart shattering support group session

You’ll Get Over It

- I SWEAR THAT FIRST NOTE SOUNDS SO MUCH LIKE THE FIRST NOTE IN “FALSETTOLAND/ABOUT TIME”

- “It’s times like these” IS THIS FALSETTOS?! THEY LITERALLY SAY “It’s about time don’t you think” IN THERE

- I mean… Falsettos did come out in ‘92

- Maureen how many times are you going to think about your ex boyfriend? You’re in a new relationship now, either respect her enough to break up with her or go get some therapy

- OH MARK IS ACTUALLY HERE NEVERMIND

- Why is she calling him “honey” and “baby” when she’s literally dating someone-

- Oh gosh please don’t tell me the reason Mark lost weight is because he’s genuinely starving (like in the opening number they say that they’re “hungry (and frozen)”)

- Mark is not having any of it. Good for him.

- WAIT MAUREEN IS THE ONE TO SAY THAT HER SAMPLES WONT DELAY SO THAT MEANS THERES NO TANGO MAUREEN NOO

- Now I’ll never know if Mark is from Scarsdale in this version 😔

- OH GOSH NOW I SEE WHY THEY CUT THIS

- This makes Mark slightly unlikeable, immature even

- “How’s it going?” “Not good. I’m depressed” OMG ME TOO BESTIE

- Mark reminds me of this nice guy™️ I used to know

- “Anyway, I treated you like dirt - you’ll get over it!” MA’AM?! HOW CAN YOU BE SO CASUAL ABOUT THIS?

- Oh that’s because her abusive tendencies are normal for her

- Ok I take it back, Mark isn’t a nice guy ™️ he’s just salty and has every right to be. I still don’t like what he said earlier though uGh

- WHEW OK NEVER MIND I MEANT WHAT I SAID EARLIER

- I can’t express how much I hate this, Mark is becoming so unlikeable and Maureen is just being her usual self

- The music is good but the lyrics just make Mark seem awful ugh and that’s fine if that’s what they’re going for but I’m still gonna hate him :)

- TW SEXUAL ASSAULT: MARK PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON’T TELL ME YOU ACTUALLY GROPED MAUREEN

- Oh gosh that’s so gross of him I truly hate Mark so much

Christmas Bells

- Mark saying “Maureen?” after Roger points out Mimi makes much more sense in this context

- Mark’s “woah!” isn’t nearly as funny as it is in the cast recording: 0/10 /hj

- The transition from the whole follow the man thing to the apology to the man being angry to Roger snapping at him has always been one of my favorite moments and this one did not disappoint

- I can’t decide whether I like the extra lines that the man has or whether I liked that it was cut

- I think I do like it actually

- Joanne is ✨ fed up ✨

- That “to” in “and it’s beginning to” was way too long

- Why does Maureen’s “last night I had this dream” sound so… weird? Almost robotic? Idk

- I was expecting “Joanne which way to the stage” but Joanne seems done with Maureen so it makes sense it’s not here

Over the Moon

- What even is going on in this version?

- TW: GORE/VIOLENCE: “She gauged her eyes out!” OK JUMP SCARE WARNING THIS ISN’T SWEENEY TODD

- NYTW Rent is back to being morbid 🤩

- Maureen is sounding more and more unhinged (which is ironic because I called Benny unhinged earlier and he’s the exact person she’s protesting against)

- Do I hear the music to Jaws?

- The person (Karen Oberlin?) who played Maureen for the first staged reading said that Maureen was supposed to be similar to Laurie Anderson? Which is apparently a stark contrast from the final version of Maureen?

- “The mOOon” MAUREEN WHAT ARE YOU ON

- This music is making my anxiety spike up for no apparent reason

- Never mind it’s the impending doom (that isn’t coming)

- Oh wait nvm I forgot this is a sad musical-

- How are you just going to say “Thank you” and leave after doing whatever the heck that was???

La Vie Boheme Part 1

- The waiter sounds more defeated in this than panicked. Cool.

- Mark’s “what?!” is also more toned down. I miss dramatic, loud Mark

- I was wondering why Anthony’s voice sounded so different all of a sudden and it’s because they had Roger say the “that’s a lie…I had a tea the other day” lines

- Please don’t start singing “do a little business” again

- RIP Blockbuster

- I’ve always loved how Benny’s voice sounds (at least when Taye Diggs, Rodney Hicks, and Jared Bedgood sing it) when he sings “a bright a charming girl like you…a fallacy in your head) but this just missed the mark imo :/

- Benny sounds like he’s trying to hard to be a villain but it’s just not working, he just sounds cuckoo

- “Hey sister, she’s my sister” So is Benny’s father in law not there or..?

- Ok I have never heard this next part (after “carmina burana”) before? And I can barely make out what they’re saying so I’m glad they cut it

- “Starring his former lovers current female lover as himself” w a i t w h a t a m i n o t g e t t i n g

- THEY CHANGED BENNY’S “Your new boyfriend doesn’t know about us” to MARK SAYING “Meet you in the bathroom” UM-

- “Another brother?” “Ex lover” Ok

- I FEEL SO BAD FOR ROGER AFTER HE STRUGGLES TO PLAY HIS SONG - MARK SAYS “Not now Roger” PLEASE 😭

- “I’ve been trying…I’ve got baggage” Roger sounds pretty decent here

La Vie Boheme Part 2

- This starts off so sarcastic too I love it

- “Send back your ghost or else we’ll have to get real jobs” Oop 👀

- Roger says the “Food of love…heavy competition” lines along with Angel

- Maureen sings the “Revolution…making pleas!” lines by herself

- “The opposite of war isn’t peace it’s creation” IM SO GLAD THEY KEPT THE MUSIC GOING AND CHANGED THE WAY THAT LINE WAS DELIVERED IN THE FINAL VERSION

- That ending was… underwhelming

I Should Tell You

- Bruh when is this song gonna start?

- JUST TELL EACH OTHER ALREADY

- “I can’t sleep at night, I’m scared to close my eyes” This is so sad. I know this is a fictional character but geez this girl is a literal teenager and dealing with so much

- “I’m so filled with fright, I rarely share, I criticize” this poor man is so depressed and it’s making me sad

- I really am loving this version, they’re both airing out their flaws before proceeding with a relationship and it’s emotional

- Never mind, what is going on with these lyrics

- I love that the “here goes” at the end made it to the final version

WHEW THAT WAS A LOT.

TIME FOR ACT TWO BESTIES!

Seasons of Love

- Ah yes, Seasons of Love

- This sounds so good-

- Is this slower than the final version?

- They sing “although it’s not the end” instead of “though the story never ends”

- WOAH IS THAT OUT TONIGHT?!

Out Tonight

- IT IS OUT TONIGHT

- It’s crazy how this is in act 2

- “I’ve got an itch - to be a b*tch” LOL

- “I need to laugh like a child” I’m genuinely so confused as to where this lyric came from

- It’s “Valentine’s Day” instead of “Christmas Day” here

- I WAS SO CONFUSED BEFORE REALIZING MAUREEN WAS THE ONE TALKING

- “Forget me not” Why is this man so dramatic 💀 this is giving me last day of school “HAGS!” vibes and I don’t know why-

- “Mark stop crying” I almost feel sorry for him

- “No this is not a phase I’m going through” !!!

- I’m starting to like this Maureen-

- “He loves me - he loves me more” I SWEAR IF ANGEL WAS IN THE BACKGROUND PICKING OFF PETALS DURING THIS I AM GOING TO DIE

Seasons of Love B

- This song placement makes no sense?

- Maybe the final version is faster than this one to show how little time they have left?

Voice Mail #3

- When the phone rang, and I half expected someone to go “Dr. Mendel please”

- “April is the cruelest month” I think February is but ok

- “Anyone but Mark, please leave a message” Who wants to join me on the (Demo) Mark Cohen is canceled train 😍

- Seriously is this man just harassing her with calls everyday? That’s creepy. She’s moved on, and so should he.

Without You

- Maureen is singing “Without You”?!

- I’m sorry but I don’t think it makes much sense for Maureen (and Joanne) to be singing this song. Maureen seemed like she didn’t even care about Joanne so saying things like “But I die without you” doesn’t add up. Unless she means “my toxicity dies without you and I need you in order to fuel my manipulation.”

- It’s very telling that Joanne sings the “Without you… the lungs breathe” part

Voice Mail #4

- “We went to steal an air conditioner” “We’ll be right back!” IM SCREAMING

- “Professor Collins” EW I AM NOT USED TO HEARING HIM CALLED THAT

- “He said he was gonna steal an air conditioner, maybe this isn’t the right number” LOL THIS IS THE SAME MAN WHO LATER REWIRES AN ATM

Contact

- Oh gosh no it’s ✨ contact ✨

- I don’t know how to feel about the first 15 seconds

- Never mind, it’s plain weird

- Angel’s “take me” sounds almost painful :( poor baby is SUFFERING

- “It’s over” Once again, Collins sounds like he’s going to commit a crime

I’ll Cover You Reprise

- TIME FOR S A D

- “Live in my house” I hate that I cringed

- I feel so bad but this Collins is just NOT. IT. The lines that are heavy with emotion (whether it’s grief or joy) always come across as creepy

- He sounds less creepy as the song goes on, so I’ll give him that

Goodbye Love

- I swear if Halloween isn’t in this, I’m going to riot

- “You said that you were leaving town last week” “You said that Benny was the most disgusting yuppie scum of the earth” THESE LYRICS SHEESH

- Maureen says “You said you’d give me some space” instead of “Who said I was talking to you” and this oddly sounds more mature of her than the final version?

- Mark’s “Calm down” and “Everyone please” in the background gives me “Oh no! Anyway” vibes. This man is saying this in the least alarming, non-forceful way ever. HE’S LIVING FOR THE DRAMA

- For a high energy/emotion song, it’s so slow

- “I gave a mile” “When you weren’t trashed” THAT WAS KINDA LOW

- LOL BENNY AND MARK SAYING “Come on guys chill” IN THE ABSOLUTE MOST UNFAZED WAY EVER IS SENDING ME THEY BOTH COULDN’T CARE LESS AND ARE HAPPY TO SEE THIS HAPPEN

- “Don’t give up Joanne?” Excuse me?? You cheated on her and was abusive

- “I live for you” Maureen this is so incredibly manipulative I can’t

- I missed Adam Pascal’s “ALLLLLLLLLLL YOUR WORDS ARE NICE MIMI”

- I’m so so happy they changed “one way street” to “three way street” because it makes more sense (Benny, Roger, heroin) and hits harder

- Wondering why they changed “tonight” into “today”

- Not the “I can’t believe this family must die - Angel helped us believe in love, I can’t believe you disagree” lines missing

- “Some of the best *voice crack* How could she?” MY HEART

- ROGER SOUNDS SO BROKEN OH MY GOSH

- “Use your right brain” LOLOL I SNORTED DO NOT BRING THAT UP IN A SONG LIKE THIS

- Everyone who has been personally victimized by Zombie Roger is entitled to financial compensation

- “I don’t know what I am” THAT LINE HURTS

- OH MY GOSH

- MARK SAYS “Who does” AND ROGER GETS ANNOYED AND SINGS “Oh God Mark, don’t you?!” AND THEN MARK IS THE ONE WHO SAYS THE “Mark has got his work…Mark hides in his work” LINES AND ROGER SAYS “From what?” AND THEN MARK SAYS “From facing my failure… facing the fact that I live a lie” THIS IS SO PERFECT I AM IN LOVE WITH THIS VERSION. I LOVE FINAL VERSION TOO BECAUSE THEY BOTH KINDA CALL EACH OTHER OUT BUT THIS IS JUST *screams*

- “You don't live a lie, tell you why. You never finished your film cause the standards you set for yourself are too high - but the fact remains that you're the one of us with the talent and the drive. The fact remains, Mark, you're the one to survive.” I AM LOSING IT

- THIS IS PERFECTION PLEASE

- I LOVE YOU JONATHAN LARSON

- “I’m afraid the burden’s gonna make me crack.” “If it does, just let me know, I’ll come back” STOP I AM ON THE VERGE OF TEARS-

- “Why’s it easier to return to a friend, than to burn with a lover till the end?” THIS LINE. THIS LINE RIGHT HERE. WHY WHY WHY WAS IT CUT.

- This is (Demo) Mark’s redemption arc oof

- “Mimi still loves Roger, Mimi’s just with Benny because Mimi’s getting weak” I AM BEGGING YOU ALL TO LISTEN TO THIS

- “I’ve gotta go” “Anything you need in Santa Fe?” “I’ll be fine - make your film” “Ok, love you. Call.” *whispers* “Love you too. I hate the fall.” IT IS TAKING EVERYTHING IN ME NOT TO START SOBBING

- I NEED TO SEE ADAM PASCAL AND ANTHONY RAPP SING THIS VERSION PLEASE IF IT’S OUT THERE GIVE ME A LINK

- Roger’s soft “You heard?” 🥺

- I’m just sitting here all sad and then Roger starts softly singing “Right brain, how do I find the right brain? I lost my map” SIR PLEASE STOP THIS IS TAKING ME OUT OF THE MOMENT

- Right brain will never not be funny

- Daphne’s voice sounds so pretty

- “Hello disease” and “They call me Mimi” being on the same note will never not crush my heart. She feels as if her disease has become her and it’s heart breaking.

- I love Mimi and Roger so much. Not necessarily together because the way they’re relationship started was just not it and they have so much work to do but I’m just rooting for them to come out on the other end ok 🥺

Real Estate

- I’m getting villain vibes from this

- Is this another “Do A Little Business”?

- Oh wait never mind it’s Angel’s burial

- I like the music in this

- “I give up” IS HALLOWEEN GOING TO START

- Ugh maybe I’m reading too much into things but the way Benny has talked to Alison this whole time irks me

- OK MUSIC COME THROUGH

- ITS GIVING ✨ QUIRKY VILLAIN ✨

- “I’m all alone” LOL I HATE THAT I LAUGHED I DID NOT EXPECT FOR HIM TO SAY THAT

- Ok I can definitely see why this was cut

- “My friends have flown or are dropping like flies.”

- LOL IM SORRY MARK I CAN’T FEEL BAD FOR YOU FOR BEING IN LOVE WITH MAUREEN AFTER LITERALLY HARASSING HER ABOUT HER SEX LIFE AND TRYING TO GET HER TO COME HAVE SEX WITH YOU-

- “My family’s nuts” I figured, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree /hj

- “I haven’t had sex in a millennium” This man is so dramatic like he could’ve said “*insert number* months” (which at least would’ve rhymed) but no he had to be dramatic

- Mark and Maureen, the drama king and queen 😍

- LOL IM SCREAMING BENNY IS TRYING TO OPEN UP A REAL ESTATE BUSINESS WITH MARK?!

- “Cohen and Coffin” I’m surprised he put Mark’s name first

- ALISON SPEAKS

- She honestly serves no purpose, I can see why she never appears on stage in the final version

- Imagine pouring out your heart and all your friend says is “hAvE yoU cOnSidEreD rEaL eStATe?”

- Ew please don’t mention that man’s name in a musical like this

- “Couldn’t we build low income housing” MARK STOP TRYING TO MAKE ME LIKE YOU

- Benny’s voice reminds me so much of those villainy voices on animated kids shows back in the day. Specifically the Magician from Frosty the Snowman (I barely remember what that man sounds like so please do not ask me to elaborate 💀).

- THIS CHANGE IN MUSIC WHAT IS HAPPENING

- IS ALISON FROM THE COUNTRY? IS THAT WHY THE CALLED HER A DEBUTANTE EARLIER SINCE THOSE THINGS ARE USUALLY IN THE SOUTH?

- “Any idiot can turn on a camera and shoot hobos” Alison, I hate you 😍

- “Last year filthy bum-“ “Person!” “Ok, filthy person.” I’M HONESTLY SO SHOCKED SHE SAID THAT BUT THEN AGAIN BENNY USES THE SAME LANGUAGE SO I SHOULDNT BE SURPRISED

- MARK I’M STARTING TO LIKE YOU MORE AND MORE FOR DOING THE BARE MINIMUM

- “I’m doomed forever to be poor” I KEEP FORGETTING THAT MARK ISN’T FROM SCARSDALE IN THIS AND THAT HE’S CUT OFF

- OH MY GOSH WAIT NO I THINK HE IS FROM SCARSDALE IN THIS VERSION BECAUSE BENNY SAYS “Meet you back in Scarsdale”

- MARK YOU ARE FRUSTRATING ME

- “Last year crummy boho goon, next year corporate tycoon” I.HATE.YOU.ALISON.

- MARK ROLLING HIS R 💀

Open Road

- “No you can’t save the world, better save your heart” PAIN

- I think I hear some Another Day undertones

- Roger is really concerning me

- I knows he’s talking about Mimi, but I can’t help but feel like he’s talking about April too

- This song is weirding me out, as I’m worried that he is going to have a breakdown

Voice Mail #5

- I don’t speak Spanish but I feel like the person playing Mimi’s mother definitely doesn’t either 💀

- Hm Roger’s moving to Brooklyn? That’s interesting, I wonder why he just didn’t go back to Manhattan (but the memories are too painful and he needs a fresh start)

- Is this… the Twilight Zone?

Finale A

- THE MUSIC TO SPLATTER IS PLAYING AGAIN I CAN ALREADY TELL THIS IS GOING TO BE GOOD

- TW SUICIDAL THOUGHTS: SO WE STARTED THE MUSICAL WITH SUICIDAL THOUGHTS AND NOW WE’RE ENDING IT WITH SUICIDAL THOUGHTS. Great.

- They literally sound dead when singing “How we gonna pay”

- “Salutations” sounds out of character

- Creepy Collins is back at it again

- Benny demanding things from Alison (to the tune of Do A Little Business?) and then immediately singing “We are the world, we are the children” and then going back to singing to the tune of Do A Little Business tops every other unhinged thing he’s done /hj

- “No more fiction, this is an eviction” BABWHSHWHSNISKW

- OH MY GOSH I HATE BENNY I HATE BENNY I HATE BENNY SO MUCH

- YES ROGER TELL ALISON THE TRUTH

- “Markkkk!” OH NO MY HEART DROPPED NO

- It sounds like Roger is saying “Gooooo!” instead of the usual “Nooooo!”

- Oh no the Halloween music :(

- ROGERS “Over here, Oh God” WAS SO SOFT

- THIS POOR BOY

- “Collins will get you a doctor, honey” IM ABOUT TO CRY FR

- COLLINS COUNTING HIS MONEY AND ONLY HAVING $16 - THIS LUMP IN MY THROAT IS GETTING BIGGER

- “Wait, I’ll sell the camera” MY JAW DROPPED

- MY EYES ARE WATERY

- I’m so confused by Collins’ lyrics in this

- “I finished the film” “That’s great” MAUREEN IS NOT HAVING IT AND HONESTLY SHE SHOULDN’T BECAUSE ??? A 20 YEAR OLD WOMAN IS DYING - NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR FILM I UNDERSTAND YOU MIGHT BE TRYING TO GET YOUR MIND OFF THINGS BUT THIS IS NOT IT

- “It’s called, Today 4 U: Proof Positive” Mark sweetie stop trying she doesn’t care

- Mark and Maureen praying/pleading for Mimi to live-

- Mimi’s panicked “Don’t go!”

- They both say “I love you” at the same time 🥺

- Them singing “I Should Tell You” again is really sweet

- Ok so apparently Collins was singing to his coat (I guess because he was going to give it to Mimi?) so his lyrics make sense now

- Rogers’ voice getting louder when he sings “Who goes there” makes me think he’s screaming this at death, like he wants it to leave the people he loves alone

- I really love how this version doesn’t include Your Eyes, it’s just a short instrumental bit of it. It’s more impactful imo

Finale B

- “Moonstruck! The theme from moonstruck! Mooooooooooon!” W h a t

- Maureen says “She’s drenched” and Mark sings “Her fever’s breaking” I’m kinda confused as to why they changed it in the final version to Collins and Maureen

- “No day but today” *chefs kiss*

OK I’M DONE LISTENING AND THAT WAS A ROLLERCOASTER. Anyways, “The Right Brain” unfortunately lives rent free in my head now 😔 send help

#this is super long and somewhat unedited so read at your own risk but #if anyone reads this then enjoy me putting my screaming into words 💀 #but seriously if you’re a renthead and haven’t listened to this version then you need to because wow is it different #if you don’t listen to anything else then listen to ‘the right brain’ so we can suffer together <3 #celeste is thinking #rent #rent the movie #rent the musical #rent live #rent movie #rent musical #nytw rent #rent nytw #musical theatre #broadway #musicals #nytw #rentheads #mark cohen #roger davis #mimi marquez #joanne jefferson #tom collins #angel dumott schunard #maureen johnson #benjamin coffin iii #theatre kid #jonathan larson #tw: caps