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#so i watched the first episode of the 2003 version
seagull-scribbles · 1 year
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neganium · 2 years
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I noticed that the fuzzing and artifacts were generally worse whenever there was movement, and that the more movement there was, the fuzzier it was. I wonder if there’s something wrong with this rip, specifically; I don’t remember the older set being like that...
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risestarkiss · 3 months
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Are you a fan of other TMNT iterations, or is Rise the only one?
Good question! TMNT has been a part of my life for three decades. I was the target demographic for the 1980's cartoon. I watched the first TMNT live action movie in theaters. I owned all of the live action movies, recorded the cartoons religiously, and begged my parents for their toys every year. I've seen the turtles through their heyday and on their worst day. (*cough* Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation *cough*)
Therefore, all of the iterations have a special place in my heart. However, I've always wanted more out of their story; more family values, more brother bonding, more heart, more love. I wanted the boys to find peace and genuinely enjoy themselves! I remember watching an episode of the 2003 turtles (aka, the Beefcake turtles, fight me) and the ep starts with the boys sitting in their den playing videogames, just enjoying each other's company. Younger me thought that was so nice!.....Then their lair blew up, all of their enemies descended on them at once, and the turtles spent the rest of the episode fighting for their lives. That type of storyline wasn't just in the 2003 version. It was across virtually every iteration. To me, it seemed like the boys were always being...tortured. It felt like their family was being punished just for being different, in every single TMNT universe. I've said all that to say this.
In Rise, they laugh with each other and enjoy each other's company. They pursue their interests and interact in a world that doesn't hate them at first sight. The turtles act like brothers, not just roommates. (The show actually pokes fun at this. "We're brothers, but sometimes it feels like we're just roommates." - Don) There are episodes where the boys just do silly things, or simply have a great time, and love that for them! Of course they'll go through tough times, but ultimately I want these boys to be happy, safe, successful, and loved. Besides, after all that they've been through in the 40 years since their inception, they deserve it! So, am I a fan of the other iterations? Absolutely. But Rise is the series that I, personally, have always been waiting for.
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Thanks for the ask! 💜💜💜
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bulbabutt · 1 year
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if i can be corny for a second i wanna talk about the greatest strengths of the 2003 tmnt series and why it speaks to me (esp as a queer person)
so i might have alluded to this before, but let me say it outright: each show is definitely a product of its time, and the ideals of whatever generation its from. whether talking about the humour, the story, the dialogue etc, its always important to remember that these shows will always come off in a way due to the generation theyre from. and thats not a bad thing! it just means its important to think about them from that perspective.
2003 is a show of my generation growing up, and a thing about that era that maybe some people younger than me wont understand is there is so much more language commonly available to describe yourself now than there was then. you can take this in any context; mental health, sexuality, gender identity, or even just the ability to describe your relationships with more (idk if this will be the right word) therapist language.
in 03 we have a family unit of splinter and his sons, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. we have a splinter who hasnt opened up to his sons about the trauma hes experienced, but not in a way of shutting them out, simply because it isnt their responsibility to know as they are teenagers. he tells them of the mutagen that created them, but not of his past with his master yoshi, who he calls father when by himself, but never around his sons which is just an interesting concept to think about.
(i do not intent this next sentence as ragging on the two shows after this when i say it, simply from a character standpoint) this is the splinter who completely doesnt make his problems his sons problems, but he also is very willing to tell them the truth when he knows they're ready. this is is the most idyllic version of splitner out of all of them, even when comparing to his mirage counterpart (who hes the most based on) due to that splinter raising them to be ninja specifically to make them fight shredder. this one is just their father who loves them and wants to keep them safe the best way he can, and he was never a human in the first place to even know how to be that. so this whole family dynamic starts with him, and the way he raised his sons reflects his parenting.
so, the setting and year this show is made is 2003. something very relatable here is how there isnt a lot of language for the personality quirks of the turtles. there's so much evidence here for mikey having adhd, his brothers will say things like "why doesnt mikey have to help?" and the answer is "well, he'd be bored. and whats worse, mikey not helping or mikey being bored?" its this beautiful moment of, "hey, we know its not fair, but thats how mikey is, and its better for everyone if we just respect that thats how he is" mikey cant keep his hands off stuff, they know this they dont yell at him for behaving that way, they just stop him. this coding feels the most specific, but like i said. its 2003. we dont have the words to describe what this is yet, and if we do its not common knowledge.
another example is in the classic episode where raphael meets casey jones. raphael is sparring with mikey, and he lashes out and nearly kills mikey. everyone reacts to this by getting him to stop, and no one is more upset than raphael himself. they all tell him to go get some air, which he does. theres no moment of any of them screaming at him for losing his temper, its very clear that they all know he's going to do that himself. and he does go get some air. they all know thats what he needs. he goes and meets casey jones, another hot head, and raph has to help coach this hot head on his anger. when he comes back at the end of the episode after having let out that aggression, he apologizes and no one is upset with him. there's a very clear understanding among his family that he cannot help it, but the best thing they can do is give him his space when he needs it. watching this from a 2023 perspective (20 years later) im sure we could analyze this as a few things going on with raph, my mind comes to autism but at the end of the day it doesnt matter why he behaves like this, the point is that he does and the best thing his family does is just...help him. which they do. and they never hold it against him.
when leo is going through his ptsd arc hes at his closest to raph as a character, the show draws a lot of parallels (like having him go let out some aggression with casey) and we get to see the dynamic in reverse. in "i, monster" (the rat king episode) leo is losing it, taking on rat king alone and not wanting to let up. raphael is actively holding his brothers back when they say "we shouldnt leave him to fight alone", raphael says "if leo gets in trouble i'm the first one in there, but right now it looks like leo's got more than one monster to work out of his system" raph doesn't exactly know what leos going through, but he recognizes it. he knows he needs to fight alone, so raph lets him. its only when the building collapses and leo is no longer in a safe position that he says "leo lets go", which leo wordlessly agrees with and actually listens.
this is what i think is the best part of these guys, the unconditional understanding they have for the way they are. we still have our "raphs a big hot head" "mikeys annoying" jokes, but they feel like genuine good natured sibling ribbing because they know each other on that level.
and to go back to the fact that this show is set in 2003, there's something so specific about the way mikey constantly makes references to liking women's clothing, to being fine with feminine language, and to being open about being the pretty turtle who "has that effect on minds of men" speaks to me as a queer person. this could easily be intended as homophobic jokes and probably is, because again.... its the mid 2000s, thats very much what media was like, thats what the jokes were. especially with the girly screams mikey does being one of the first jokes of this nature.
but theres something that happens in season 4, where an alien is attacking mikey, and donnie rushes in and says "hey, thats my sibling" that sticks out. and it happens again in fast forward. when talking to the dark turtles leo says "you and your brothers" "me and my siblings"
because of the way this family unit just understands each other without ever having a conversation about things, it feels like its not a joke. theres some kind of affirmation happening here. even if it seems like i could be reading into it too much, its specific! and it keeps happening!
and by the end of the show, when mikey says he wants to be maid of honour, even if that line in the media itself was intended to be a joke, no one in their family treats it like one. of course mikey is the maid of honour, he asked to be one! the only real offence taken is when april says bride's maid, to which he is offended because hes so much more important than that!
so from a story standpoint, this show doesnt have the intricate complexities and butting heads of latter iterations, there isnt much relationship growth to be had (in fact once we get to around season 5 the flanderization of the characters kind of begins and it loses some of the more complexities) but thats because its just not the focus of the story! the story is more about what they go through together, and thats fine! thats what our shows kind of were at the time. not saying there isnt any relationship growth, but its very much not the focus because these turtles? they already understand each other in a healthy way.
so to me, these guys are kind of the most wholesome family unit
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im having a great time with Pluto despite not having seen much astro boy (been aware of it obviously just never sought it out) what would you recommend for someone to watch/read after pluto from the astro boy franchise that is similar in tone and content?
Oh boy oh BOY!
If the Pluto anime is your introduction into the Astro Boy franchise then you've been thoroughly acclimated to the most fervent reoccurring themes found within Tezuka's writings and as such a lot of the tone and story telling will be very similar - even if Pluto was written by Naoki Urasawa and not Tezuka himself.
What I personally would suggest for those curious about learning more about Astro Boy and this particular story is to read the Pluto manga (8 volumes) as an accompaniment - the anime is a very good adaptation but some things had to be cut for time (it's inevitable) and the manga was simply better at revealing some things than the anime to give you a broader sense of place that this world takes place in.
From there you have many options before you depending on your accessibility to some of the series below.
NOTE: There is nothing quite like Pluto other than Pluto, but in all versions of Astro Boy you will find the same themes and content found within Pluto but with a different narrative voice.
For the sake of simplicity I am not getting into the bigger Tezuka Star System I'm just focusing on Atom in the most direct way - no this is not meant to be a full complete list of EVERYTHING.
The 1950s Manga
Written by Tezuka himself, where it all started.
Contains all of the original core stories of Tetsuwan Atom (Astro Boy) which were adapted in various media.
Is available in English to purchase and is online.... in places...
Can get shockingly dark and gruesome and I do not have the spoons to list all the Content Warnings possible. Adults will find enjoyment from this series.
Is generally episodic.
Classic golden age sci-fi with themes relevant today still.
The 1960s Anime
Written and worked on by Tezuka himself.
Contains many of the core stories presented in the manga adapted to fit a single episode.
Episodic.
The first two years (104 episode out of 193) are available in English to purchase on DVD (with extras!) - I do not know if the 'missing 89' are available online with subs or if the original Japanese is available with subs out there.
Yes, inevitably the dubs sanitized a lot of the stories and Americanized them - but even so they are worth a watch.
The 1980s Anime
Also written and worked on by Tezuka himself.
Is available in English to purchase, but like the 60s dub, it has been cropped, chopped, and censored - in some ways worse than the 60s series. The DVDs at least do have the Japanese track with subs available.
You can find the 80s Japanese unedited online with subs.
Is mostly episodic but does have a subplot featuring a new character Atlas and his sister Levian.
Contains some of the core stories from the manga but this series is much shorter so some of your favorites might have been dropped.
The 2003 Anime
Tezuka did not work on this series as he was deceased at time of production.
Modern Astro Boy with a more modern lens and modern story-telling expected of anime of the time.
Contains a plot and contains the episodic spirit of the original shows and manga, but the plot is still referenced in modern anime story telling. The main plots being 1.) robot rights being established in a world where they have none despite having "kokoro" (heart) which is basically free will and sentience and 2.) who is that boy anyway?
Many of the most beloved Astro Boy stories from the manga are not present in this series.
American voices dictated the direction of this series from the start even in the original Japanese which is a big negative.
The English dub is heavily censored and altered from the original version - but it contains some amazing performances from people like Dorian Harewood whom I still to this day don't know HOW he agreed to play Dr. Tenma but my god he did an amazing job.
The unedited subbed Japanese version can be found online.
Despite the amount of butchering and meddling during production it is still a relevant part of the Astro Boy collective world.
Naoki Urasawa's Pluto Manga and Anime
You already know of this adaptation but it's a retelling of The World's Greatest Robot, the classic story from the manga and is present in all of the above series. It is also direct commentary about the American invasion of Iraq with some names changed so as to not hurt feelings. I generally suggest to adults to read this and if it connects with them then try on the original manga and maybe see if any of the anime gets their eye too.
A note on Tezuka and his extended works.
An American equivalent to him would be Jack Kirby however he had more creative control with his work, was credited for his creations, and had just about the same amount of influence on Japanese comics as Jack Kirby did with American comics (maybe even to a greater extent). Tezuka was incredibly prolific and is dubbed "The God of Manga" for a reason. Many of his stories all circle around the same themes; war, grief, the futility of hatred and the doom of mankind while also taking on blatant political sides including environmentalism, equal rights, gender rights and even playing with gender and expression (note they are products of their time and some of which are offensive today but for the time were groundbreaking).
If you wanted specific stories from the manga that might be more what you are looking for to refine your search, let me know! I've been needing an excuse to drag them out.
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Something I’ve been thinking about is that when the Turtles come up with code names for their family they tend to combine Splinter’s nicknames for them with their special interests.
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Meat Sweats: Turtles? Red? Blue? Orange? Purple?
Splinter: Oh, you know their names
Throughout Rise Splinter mostly refers to his son’s as their colours when talking to them, treating their designated colours as nicknames & whenever the Turtles make code names they combine their dad’s nicknames for them with their own special interests by making sure that their designated colours are part of their code names
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Donnie: This is Purple Knight is everyone in position
Raph: Red King is set
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Donnie: Orange Pawn please use your-
Mikey: What!? Why am I the pawn?
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Donnie: Scooch over Hypno, chess is my domain 
In the episode Mind Meld, Donnie gives his family Chess Code names showing his interest in Chess but he didn’t simply give them Chess Piece names he combined Chess Pieces with their designated colours when making their code names.
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Raph: Yellow Submarine are we clear?
April: Affirmative Red Rover
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Raph: Purple Rain, do you see the target?
In the first episode & the episode Bull Hop we see Raph do something similar to Donnie where he combines the families designated colours with his own special interest in music.
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Raph: Jumpin’ Jack Flash!
It seems as though Raph has an interest in music even yelling out ‘Jumpin’ Jack Flash!’ sometimes in surprise & Jumpin’ Jack Flash is actually a song by the Rolling Stones so that combined with the fact that the codenames Raph came up with are all different song titles it shows that Raph chose code names for his family based off his interest in music.
However Raph didn’t simply choose the song titles of any random song when coming up with code names but instead Raph specifically chose songs with colours in the titles to stick with the nicknames that Splinter gave them.
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Though April doesn’t have a designated colour from Splinter the same way the Turtles do, April is often associated with the colour yellow with her often being coloured in yellow in the Rise comics & in the movie her Donnie Pod is yellow as well, so it’s very likely that the Turtles might associate April with yellow the same way they associate themselves with their own colours, which is why Raph gave April the code name Yellow Submarine.
The reason why Raph gave April a code name with a colour might be because Splinter gave the Turtles colour based nicknames so the Turtles might view getting or giving a colour based nickname as a form of affection.
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Leo: I’m changing my code name too, uh... Blue Bluey! No... Blue... uh-
Donnie: No! No! No one is changing their code names
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Leo: I’m Captain Bluemask
Though we don’t really see Leo make code names for his family whenever Leo tries to come up with a code name for himself he includes the colour Blue, calling himself ‘Captain Bluemask’ in Portal Jacked when he’s trying to sneak onto a pirate ship & though he struggles to make a code name for himself in the episode Mind Meld the one thing he’s sure of is including the colour his dad gave him in his code name.
Though the fact that Leo was easily able to come up with a code name when he had a pirate theme to work off of but struggled to come up with a theme for his codename outside his colour in Mind Meld shows that Leo has a harder time coming up with code names based off his special interests than Donnie & Raph do.
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Leo: It’s me, you’re favourite teen detective Leo Splinterson 
When Leo comes up with a name that doesn’t include the colour Blue his code name is still obviously influenced by his dad as Leo calls himself ‘Leo Splinterson’
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The name ‘Splinterson’ might be a slight nod to the 2003 TMNT series as in the 2003 series the Turtles didn’t use Hamato as their last name since the 2003 version of Splinter wasn’t Hamto Yoshi but instead similar to the Mirage version of Splinter, Spinter in the 2003 series was Hamato Yoshi’s pet rat that learnt ninjutsu from watching him.
The 2003 Turtles used ‘Splinterson’ as their last names because they were Splinter’s sons. Whether or not Rise is referencing the 2003 series when Leo calls himself ‘Leo Splinterson’ in the episode Bad Hair Day doesn’t change the fact that whenever Leo is trying to come up with a code name he’s thinking of Splinter, either putting the colour Blue in his codename because that’s the colour Splinter gave him or simply calling himself ‘Splinterson’ because Splinter is his dad.
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Mikey: This is a job for Doctor Delicate Touch
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Mikey: Good Morning, I’m Doctor Feelings
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Mikey: Doctor Positive! The one whose gonna turn you from bad guy to glad guy!
The only one of the Turtles who really seems to break the convention of basing codenames off of the colours that Splinter gave them seems to be Mikey who instead consistently comes up with Doctor personas for himself.
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Though Doctor Delicate Touch & Doctor Feelings ect aren’t exactly codenames it does show a pattern for Mikey to the point where Mikey even calls himself Doctor Rude when he & Raph pretend to be villains in order to crash Ghost Bears wedding in the scrapped season 2 episode Wedding Smashers giving himself another Doctor persona.
The fact that Mikey doesn’t include his colour in the aliases that he comes up with for himself might show that Mikey is the least influenced by Splinter out of his brothers, in contrast Leo might be the most influenced by Splinter because he can’t come up with a name outside the colour that Splinter gave him & when he tries to he still focuses on the fact that he’s Splinter’s son.
Raph & Donnie might be in the middle in regards to Splinter’s influence on them because they still hold onto the colours that Splinter gave them & their family when coming up with codenames but they combine those colours with their own special interests.
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tmntkiseki · 3 months
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So this is one thought that has rotated in my brain ever since I watched through the entire 2003 series for the first time, but as much as I love Donatello and consider him my favorite turtle, there is one not-so-tiny thing that bugs me and that's the fact that he does probably go through the least character development of the four turtles despite going through some genuinely terrible shit.
When I think of some of the stuff Donatello goes through during the series, the stuff that makes me think "Good lord, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO MY BOY," the three incidents that stick out the most are the Triceraton Mind Probe from the Space Invaders arc, the entirety of Same As It Never Was, and the Outbreak Saga/Good Genes Arc. The Triceraton Mind Probe scene is one that is physically painful to watch. Don is writhing and screaming the whole time as the probe rapidly picks through his memories trying to find information on Professor Honeycutt's whereabouts, and it's clear that at one point he becomes so scared that he begs for help from his father. Fortunately, his spiritual connection with Splinter allows him overpower the device and short circuit it, but if he hadn't had such a strong bond with him, who knows what would have happened.
Same As It Never Was... what needs to be said at this point? Donatello gets transported to a bad future where the Shredder rules the world, Splinter and Casey are dead, and the turtles have disbanded after their version of Don disappeared 30 years prior. Donatello watches all three of his brothers die protecting him, and at the end of the episode laments the fate of his poor brothers and just how nightmarish the world is before he's warped away. And that's just the tl;dr version.
Good Genes arc, though, oh my god. I feel a major reason why this arc is so good is because it plays on an idea presented on Same As It Never Was--that is, Donatello, with his level head and ability to come up with ingenious solutions to problems the turtles encounter, is what's keeping the team together. As a result of the Outbreak virus, Donatello undergoes a secondary mutation that turns him into a violent, aggressive monster and it's stated because of reactions with the Utrom mutagen already in his blood, his body is breaking down; if he's not cured, he will die. The knowledge that Donatello may perish if nothing is done is bad enough, but even just not having their brother there mentally is enough to mess up the entire team dynamic. In their desperation to save him, they go so far as to make a deal with Bishop, who Leonardo openly compares to the Devil himself, and their actions ultimately lead to the events of the Ninja Tribunal arc the following season. It was the single most dire situation the turtles were in since Exodus, and it wasn't even an entire galaxy at stake; just their beloved brother.
But despite all that, Donatello doesn't actually change much as a result of these events. That's because, more often than not, the stuff that happens to him is more used to fuel his brothers emotional reactions and development than his own. Good Genes is probably the best example of this because even though Donatello is the one physically suffering during the arc, it's Leonardo, Raphael, and Michelangelo who get all the interesting emotional reactions to their present situation; Leonardo finds himself almost completely lost on what to do without Don, and Raphael and Michelangelo, who are absolutely devastated over Don's transformation, spend much of the arc eerily quiet when compared to their usual selves. The only thing we get in terms of Don is the fact that he doesn't remember what happened while he was "sick," and is thus frustrated by how much his brothers end up coddling him in the wake of the incident (which unfortunately isn't all that important since we're about to enter the Ninja Tribunal arc.)
It really is unfortunate that Donatello doesn't go through much development because I otherwise love everything about him. Besides his intelligence, techno savvy, and ability to quickly pick up skills that might be useful to the team (I'm also very biased towards his Bō not due to its strength as a weapon, but it's amount of utility both in and outside combat), I'm absolutely floored by just how nice and gentle he is. He's still got plenty of sass hidden in his shell and can be quite snippy when he's annoyed, but he shows a lot of emotional sensitivity and is very empathetic; this is especially shown in his sibling dynamics with Raphael and Michelangelo, whose relationships tend to be the most...tumultuous? Of the turtles. I don't have a better word for it.
As an aside, I genuinely feel like The King doesn't get enough credit where it's due because yeah, it's a touching tribute to the late Jack Kirby, but it's important as a Donatello-focused episode because it's not focused on his status as the genius inventor of the turtles; instead, we look at his nature as a kind, friendly individual who is very sentimental and doesn't take loss very well. He quickly strikes up a friendship with Kirby, who is one of the few humans not to reject Donatello just because he's a 5'2" mutant turtle, and they end up having a fun adventure in the alternate dimension where all of Kirby's drawings end up disappearing to. Unfortunately, Donatello is unable to pull Kirby back through the portal in time as it's closing; the alternate ending, which is closer to original Mirage issue the episode is based on, really hammered in just how deeply this affected Don, since he absolutely refuses to talk to Raphael and walks off to be by himself, gazing solemnly at the drawing Kirby was able to send through the portal. "Life at best is bittersweet. Take care of yourself."
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God damn it, my poor son.
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indieyuugure · 10 months
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leo’s always been my favourite too! if i could ask, what makes him your fav? i personally just love how the writers always put heavy emphasis on just how much leo cares for his family and how he’s willing to do anything for them no questions asked. i’ve also always been a sucker for the mom friend trope
Oh geez, idk. I guess if I really have to think about it, I suppose I feel like I see myself a lot in him. Like I’ve totally done (or do) some of the things he does XD Between his burden of responsibility and dorky nerd hero thing, I dunno I just really relate to it and love it!
I will say though, season 1 and 2 Leo is my favorite version of him. I think Seth Green isn’t as natural sounding when delivering Leo’s cringy hero lines and nerd ramblings, whereas Jason Biggs and Dominic Catrambone absolutely nailed it.
Now, don’t get me wrong! I do like Seth Green’s voice for Leonardo, I just think season 3 Leo onward he’s much more serious to match his much more serious voice, which I do like just not as much as silly Leo, if that makes any sense lol XD
I think I also really love his visual design. Believe it or not I really REALLY hated their visual style when I first started watching the show. After the second or third episode I actually gave up cause I hated it so much, and watched the first few episodes of 2003 instead. Although after seeing more tumblr posts of everyone swearing it’s the most amazing show ever, I decided to give it another shot. I think around episode 5 I started actually liking the way the turtles look, and now I think it’s actually my favorite design of Leonardo!
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Also I probably have a bias because Leonardo has always been my favorite since I was little. I grew up on the original 1987 tv show and in that show I also loved Leonardo (I was a really cringy kid, actually scratch that I still AM a cringey kid) XD
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What are your favorite things about the turtles that you like about them individually starting with Leonardo and then Donatello and then Michelangelo and then Raphael
My favorite things about the individual turtles (or things I associate with them)
Warnings: Somewhat emotional, talks of bullying by adults.
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All Turtles:
I feel like this is very important to mention first, as it speaks a lot about my love for the turtles in general. All of these reasons are very much personal, and have very little to do with the turtles personalities, and more memories I have with them and other people in my life.
I have been a TMNT fan ever since kindergarten. I was 2 years old when 2003 turtles first came on television, so when I started in kindergarten at 3, they were already pretty established not just for me, but all of the other kids in kindergarten, especially the boys. And that leads us to another important point - I was a tomboy when I was young, and to a certain degree I still am to this day. I hated pink, and would scream and yell if I was put into a dress. But I did enjoy “boy clothes”, and I did ask my mom to only buy me “boy clothes”, so she did. I also played with action figures or played “rough” with the Barbie dolls, and my closest friends were all boys, or girls that somewhat understood my way of playing.
Now, being a tomboy is nowhere special or anything abnormal, but in the kindergarten I was in, the adults not only saw it as abnormal and concerning. I was never bullied by the kids in my kindergarten, but I was by the adults. They sang songs that made me cry, and they tried to force me to play with toys a certain way. At times I even tried to run away from my kindergarten, going so far as to jump the fence and run home. It got so bad that my dad, who at the time worked at the city council, had to step in and threaten them with legal action, just to make them stop singing the song that continuously made me cry.
But throughout all of this, every high and low in kindergarten, I clung onto TMNT. It was how I could play with both boys and girls, and became my first hyper fication. It even led to a description of me that the other kids would use when describing me to the new kinds; “This is (...). She wears boy clothes, hates Barbie dolls and loves Ninja Turtles”.
TL;DR, TMNT became my comfort obsession during bullying from adults in kindergarten, and it has stuck ever since, coming back during my depressive episode in 2023.
Leonardo:
Leo has always been my favorite ninja turtle. My favorite color was and is still blue, and I like to think he had something to do with it. He was the turtle I would dress up as at Fastelavn, and I really looked up to his views on honor and responsibilities. Back then I was the oldest child in the family, and I took my role as big sister very seriously, often seeking to protect my little brother.
I will even go so far as to say that Leonardo was my first fictional crush. I still remember watching 2003 in the living room, and getting somewhat irritated that he wasn’t real. Even more irritated when people had to bring up that none of the turtles were real. Way to kill the vibe for a 3 - 5 year old, lol.
In kindergarten, I would hide the Leonardo figure, or just walk around with it in my pocket. I clung to it, and got really sad when someone wanted to take it, since they were playing with the other turtles. Not long ago my brother dug through our old toys, and found the Leo figure my parents got me when I was young. It is now sitting in a bowl next to a Barbie doll I won at drag bingo, lol.
To this day Leo is still my favorite. I resonate with him and his struggles quite a lot. Each version of him always struck something with me, providing me with some sense of comfort. Maybe it is because he wants to protect, and that made me feel protected? Or he seems very driven by rules and morality, in a way that I do too. If I don’t, I get really anxious, so it’s nice to see someone else do it.
Donatello:
My love for Donatello is relatively new. I’ve always loved him, but for the little version of me, he was often forgotten. He was the last figure I would react for, and was the last turtle who’s name I remembered, often referred to as “the purple one”. Generally, in the kindergarten I went to, it was the fewest who showed interest in Donatello, always fighting over the other turtles.
However, as an adult, I’ve come to admire Donatello much more. It took quite some time before I came to realize the importance of him, and I would like to say that Rise played a big part of that. Up until then, I remembered Donnie as being shown as the “least coolest” (which I know now is very much not true”.
With Rise Donnie being coded with autism, my brother suddenly had a turtle to mirror with. While I had Leonardo in my childhood, my brother now had Donatello in his teenage years, and to be honest, that means a lot to me. To me, Donnie has now become a character that symbolizes late but powerful blooming. My brother is first now finding himself, and he turned 20 a month ago, so when he tells me that Rise Donnie makes him feel represented, and showed him that someone like him could be loved, it really touched me.
MM Donnie is currently the turtle in the keychain I’ve attached to my backpack, and is the turtle that has made my brother interested in TMNT. I sat with my almost 2 year old niece, and she noticed the Donnie on my backpack. She started to play with it, and it very quickly became a great bonding experience. So to me, Donnie is closely tied with personal growth and bonding.
Michelangelo:
I’ve come to realize that I have much more in common with Michelangelo than I first thought I had. First of all, he is the orange turtle, and I’m a natural redhead, so we match. Second of all is ADHD. It wasn’t until I was 21 that I learned I have ADHD, and just before I learned how to tackle it, I was hit with the death of my grandma, and had to quit work due to stress which turned into a pretty bad depression.
Those that have read my Bayverse Children Series, know that I’ve called Mikey’s daughter Sunny and his son Luis, both names that I connect with ideas of the sun. Sunny because it sounds like the sun, and Luis because it makes me think of king Louis the XIV, aka, the sun king. That is because I see Mikey as a very happy guy. Obviously, he is not happy all the time, and when we do experience him being sad or mad, we know that something is very wrong. But he generally has a very upbeat personality that reminds me of the sun, or maybe even just sunlight.
If Leo is the comfort and a personality I can see myself in, and Donnie is personal growth and bonding, then I see Mikey as the light at the end of the tunnel. An friendly and sympathetic person that wants the best for you, and will help you on the road to recovery. That’s at least how I see him and his brothers, as imaginary friends that have wished me the best.
Doesn’t hurt that he is a cat person. Every moment or scene with Mikey talking to or helping a cat, very much reminded me of me and my own cat. Me and my cat was just as close as Mikey and all of his cats are. RIP Mini💔
Raphael:
Leo is my comfort and the turtle I mirror in, Donnie is growth and bonding, Mikey is a helping hand through the darkness, then Raph is personal drive and passion.
In kindergarten, Raphael was my second favorite turtle, but I do remember that he was many of my friends' favorit. During my internship at a different kindergarten, I learned that he was all of the kids' favorit. And honestly, I see why. To me, he is the stereotypical young kid that doesn’t know how to express his emotions in a healthy way, leaving them with a lot of strong emotions that only keeps building and building, until it reaches a boiling point. And I’m pretty sure that a lot of people can see themselves in that.
Like many people we meet in our life, Raph has a really hard exterior, but is truly a really emotional guy on the inside. I think many kids see themselves in his emotional outbursts, and understand the frustration and build up he can feel. But that doesn’t make him less of a good person.
At my internship, I learned that one of the kids from last year that is now in school (I never met him), was actually named Raphael. I’ve told this before, but he was a big TMNT fan and would carry plastic sais to kindergarten. I later learned from the adult working there, that he also had the personality of Raphael, and was in some ways just as “hot tempered”. He had a hard time communicating with the other kids, as his emotions would often get in the way, causing him to lash out due to his frustration. And yup, he did throw one of his fake sais ast one of the kids once. But like the turtle, it didn’t make him any less good. From what I’ve been told, he was very passionate about whatever he did, and was very good at involving other kids in whatever he was playing or doing. He has obviously had a big impact on said kindergarten, as even a year after he left, they are still talking about him. And honestly, I get it. If his anything like the turtle Raphael, he is obviously lovable, even if he could be a bit of a hard nail sometimes.
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tinylantern · 4 months
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Going Through The TMNT 2003 Concept Art Like
On its own, I do genuinely like the art style for Back to the Sewers (reminder that I haven't watched it, so I can't judge the actual animation.) That said, I can't get over how cutesy they made the eyes on the turtles (Leo legitimately looks like a cat here.)
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When it comes to concept art, I always love seeing designs that never made it into the final show/game; you know, the stuff that the art team/writers would have included if it weren't for time constraints or because they realized it simply wouldn't have worked from a narrative perspective. The "stealth" versions of the turtles are probably my favorite of the unused design concepts. I just love the sleek outfits and the glowy bits (I'm a sucker for glowy bits.)
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I do not know what I genuinely find so morbid about the fact that there is a model for the very first part of Donatello's transformation from "Adventures in Turtle Sitting," though admittedly the body horror aspect is somewhat subdued due to his expression. (He only seems mildly concerned by his sudden muscle growth versus his screams of pain in the actual episode.)
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I have absolutely nothing to say about these two except that the titles amuse me. "Frosted Donatello" and "Frosted Mikey." (Also, I cannot help but notice most of Michelangelo's model sheets only ever refer to him as "Mikey." His full name is just that hard to spell compared to Leonardo, Raphael, and Donatello, huh?)
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So as of this post, I still haven't finished Season 5/the Lost Episodes/the Ninja Tribunal Arc. I've got three episodes left to go and admittedly I've been procrastinating just because it's not as good as the first four seasons andIalsodon'twanttofinishthegoodpartoftheshowyet. THAT SAID, as absurd as the turtles all turning into dragons are, I really do love the designs. They're so reflective of the four's personalities. (Poor Michelangelo is the only one without a tail tho.)
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I did not know I needed the 2003 TMNT in suits until today but here we are (seriously, HOW ARE THEY ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK?)
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cnwolf-brainrot · 3 months
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you know something I want to see in a new version of TMNT? At some point I want to see a Splinter that actually DOES SOMETHING.
Don’t get me wrong here, I adore the versions of Splinter we’ve gotten. 2012 especially has a lot of effect on the story, Rise Splinter was a very unique take, 2003 Splinter has a great personality, and I love Mayhem Splinter’s protectiveness. But you know what I’ve noticed? Every first outing/first time we see the turtles leave the sewers, Splinter never goes with them. Sometimes that’s because they’ve been going out on their own for a while (Rise, Mayhem) but even then we never really hear about Splinter ever accompanying them. This bothers me especially in 2012 when Splinter explicitly gives them permission and expresses concern, but doesn’t make any move to go supervise. And, more than that, it bothers me that we never see Splinter go on any patrols with the turtles. He comes in for big fights and such, but it doesn’t feel like he does much in the day-to-day.
What I really want is a new Turtles show or movie where Splinter has the same protectiveness as Mayhem’s Splinter with the capabilities of 2012’s Splinter; a super over-protective father who wants to be in the fight just as much as his kids are. He insists on being there with them as they finally venture to the surface for the first time, and as the turtles get wrapped up in their usual BS he takes the lead on things like patrols and protecting the city. For the whole first season of this show SPLINTER would be the turtles technical leader, which would give Leo a chance to grow as a character first before the leadership position is given to him. There would also probably be some tension as the turtles begin to feel smothered by Splinter’s overprotectiveness and get to the point where they want to go out on their own, but this Splinter is still Hamato Yoshi deep down and he doesn’t want to give up the adrenaline of being a fighter or give anyone the chance to hurt his sons.
The first season of this show would end with the classic big fight, and in it Splinter would get severely injured. This injury would give the turtles all the push they need to act like a team without Splinter’s guidance; and give Leo the push he needs to step forward and act like a true leader. They beat the big bad guy without Splinter’s help, and Splinter finally realizes that he doesn’t need to be watching every move his sons make. From here Splinter would take on a more traditional role as he heals. He stays in the lair, trains the turtles as best as he can, gives advice, etc. Now of course this Splinter does eventually get restless and there’d probably be a few episodes where HE is the one trying to sneak out of the lair and the turtles get overprotective on him, but he does accept his new role. He’s never the same after his injury and probably has to actively use a walking stick now, but he still finds times where he can actively join the fight.
I don’t know if this is something we’ll ever see but I’m kind of sick of the “I’ll just help out in the big fights” Splinters we’ve seen. I want a Splinter who takes an actually active role in the story, not just a passive mentor figure who only helps when needed. Like dude you can only sit in the sewers and meditate for so long, get a hobby or something. Give me a Splinter who goes LOOKING for a fight and it’s his sons that have to drag him away from it.
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MASTER POST
Doctor Who Resource List. This post will serve as a resource list for as much Doctor Who stuff as I can find! Please send me links to more EU stuff if you have them.
What this masterpost is/Doctor Who different series etc explained below cut. Note: you have to click on the original post (so, not a reblogged version) of whichever masterpost you're looking at, or else the links won't work!
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The 2005 (revival/NuWho) show:
The 1963-89 show (Classic Who):
The 1996 Movie:
Scream of the Shalka:
Scream of the Shalka books/texts:
Comics:
Books:
Short stories:
Big Finish Audios:
Spin-Offs:
Apparently you can only have like ten links per post so I'll need a Master Post Part Two. I apologise for the inconvenience, but will reblog this with Master Post Part Two, which will then go in my pinned post.
If you don’t know, Classic Who (1963-89) had many serials in each episode, with a few episodes per serial. For example, the first episode and first serial, “An Unearthly Child” had four parts (I have linked the first part on dailymotion in the classic who post). After the show was cancelled, there was a movie (1996), and then in 2003 there was an animated series (Scream of the Shalka), which was supposed to be the ‘new Doctor Who’, but then the live action reboot was announced and continued from 2005 until the present.
This made the Shalka series second-level canon (only kind of ‘true’ within the universe of Doctor Who. The fandom considers it an alternate universe basically). There are also many spin-off series, some of which I will link here, as well as official comics, novelisations, books, games, and the increasingly popular audio series with Big Finish (also linked here).
For the links that don’t have the full series in one place, I have linked the first episode, and then you can find the next episodes from there. If you have access to anything else Doctor Who related (like comics not here, for example) then send a link in my DM/as an ask, and I’ll add it in!
Anything that isn’t Classic Who (1963-89), the movie, or NuWho (2005-present) is considered “Extended Universe’ content. I will continue adding to this post and reuploading as I discover more content. If you have questions about spinoffs and related stuff like Iris Whildthyme or Faction Paradox, you can ask me, but you’ll probably fare better by searching it up online.
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How do you think rise Leo would meet Usagi?(like once they start making season 3 of rottmnt, how would that episode look like)
also, I’ve been watching TMNTFF and reading TTATH, so let’s say Darius cloned Usagi. Would dark Leo have a crush on dark Usagi? If he does, is he that obvious or is he more of a tsundre? How would dark Usagi react?
I'm basing this on past crossovers with TMNT, and less on what I personally would do.
Usagi might actually be from another dimension, since that's how he's been in every other TMNT iteration! He's stuck pretty closely to his canon (though 87 I don't think actually... read Usagi Yojimbo because they said his LAST NAME was YOJIMBO?? which it's not, that's. that's the title of the comic.)
Ever since 2003 Stan Sakai was always brought on during Usagi's episodes to help figure out a plot, he actually wrote the episodes for 2012! Leo's his favorite character so Leo might be the first to meet Usagi if he's not with his brothers.
I think the biggest thing that's up in the air is honestly whether or not Usagi would be the turtles' age or if he would be middle-aged. For 2003, he was very much a version of Usagi, like how Rise April is a version of April. In 2012, however, Stan Sakai mentioned that that version of Usagi was just. The Usagi from the comics! The turtles casually travelled into the comic universe, basically! So maybe Sakai would do that again. I kinda like the idea of the comic Usagi teaching the Rise Turtles about being a samurai and stuff, that'd be fun, especially since Splinter never instilled them with a sense of honor like 2003 and kiiiinda 2012 did? idk I think it'd be cute.
As for the Dark turtles and the concept of Dark Usagi, Darius isn't the one who clones them that's Sh'Okanabo, he just sells them to Darius. But also, I think the clones are just... too unsure of themselves to have feelings about other people. They don't even like each other but they stick together because (I believe) that's what's natural to them. I think with Dark Leo and Dark Usagi it would be the same way, where they stick together because it feels like they should be close, but they don't actually have any feelings for each other. Personally, I think the dark turtles are just too... young? and immature? They don't know anything, they don't even know themselves yet! They need to learn how to love period, let alone something like a romantic relationship.
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life-set-to-random · 7 months
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Watching my new copy of the 2003 series, my mother’s first time seeing it, and I’m having way too much fun hinting that there’s something vastly different about this version of Shredder.
For example, Leo just took the big palooka’s head off, and Ma was like “Finally!”
But I was all Jedi sage and mysterious “You would think so, wouldn’t you.”
Then at the end of the episode Shredder gets up and picks up his head, tucks it under his arm and walks away through the flames.
Ma “Wtf?! What’s it take to kill this guy?!”
Me “It’ll all make sense later, I promise.”
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Yeah but seriously, what would these 5 misplaced characters do if they were stuck in the same room. I honestly wanna hear what you think would happen.
Since Aoi is, well, deadass, dead as hell, deceased, kicked the bucket and all that, he's in the room but they don't know unless Leo's there as translator.
But if he were to be alive for a while, he would not like being there.
It's not that he doesn't miss his brothers and father, he's scared. It's been years. He's in the same boat as Haru and Ghost in a sense, since i feel like all of them feel like loving other versions of their family feels like betraying them.
He's scared.
Ryu and Ryo would be confused. They're Ghost and Aoi's brothers respectively and unlike them, they don't remember. They're reincarnated just like Haru as well. They'd be very confused at first, i feel like. Being so out of place with people having overwhelming emotions about meeting someone they lost.
I dont know them well enough to know how exactly they will react but i feel like they can read the room enough to know that they were someone important to the people in the room.
I also don't know a lot about Ghost to be accurate (didn't watch 2003 cuz i got scared of the brain episode i will not stop talkong about that pls)
Tho i feel he'd be more reserved? You can tell Aoi is overwhelmed by emotions from the way the room's temperature drops and the way frost forms, but for him, i think he would fidget a lot. I don't think he'd be the first to try and talk to the others and he would love to talk to Ryu, but like Aoi, he's scared. That's not the brother he left, that's someone different now, at the same time it's him.
It's daunting. Stressful. For all his smarts, he doesn't know what to do.
Haru being a Splinter is as wise as ever, doesn't need to talk, just opening his arms made Aoi jump into his arms automatically, even Ryo reacts, surprised but doesn't stop himself. Slowly, Ghost and Ryu joins as well
And they just sit there, not pretending everything's fine, but the hug was enough of a comfort for everyone to calm down.
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sems-diarie · 8 months
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sem!!!!!  when i tell you, there is nothing on this world more romantic than mr. edward elric. he is not just an anime man i simp for, he is thee anime man i simp for.
when he ripped off his shirt at the beginning of the first episode of the original 2003 version, something in me changed for the rest of my lifeeee😫
i love edward so deeply & dearly. i watched the scene where he & winry reconnect & they’re both all grown up <333 i swoon everytime!
like they reinvented love i think
i also love love love ling?? greedling & ling are so <3333 i wish there was more of him in the series somehow?? i wish they’d extended it <\333 he & fan lan were so dear 2 my soul!!
okay but how do you feel ab colonel mustang? i’ve had a crush on him forever dear lord
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