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addsalwayssick · 2 months
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Sirius: Yeah and so keystone means that they’re like important to..him..or something
James: Could you clarify what you mean by that?
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Sirius: no
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nicklloydnow · 7 months
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“Chigurh stands up to God with an unflinching, uncompromising belief in predetermination—no free will or human choice, no mercy or sentiment, no giving in or letting go or giving up. Principled in the purity of his work, he defies sentiment and falsehood and betrayal. A pure born-again agent of death, anti-Christ Calvinist Chigurh is a man of his deadly word, a relentless avenger, an implacable killer defying God, no less than the diabolic Judge in Blood Meridian. "How to prevail over that which you refuse to acknowledge the existence of" lago was never so clear-minded, Ahab no more manically fixated, Kurtz no less obsessed with his mission to exterminate losers. "The horror! The horror!" What more can a man say of pure evil?” - Kenneth Lincoln, ‘Cormac McCarthy: American Canticles’ (2010) [p. 144, 145]
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“Chigurh again adopts the Socratic method in his final encounter with his fellow hitman Carson Wells. Although Wells isn't given the privilege of a coin toss, Chigurh nevertheless engages in an incisive dialogue with his victim. While holding Wells at gunpoint, Chigurh asks, "If the rule you followed led you to this of what use was the rule?" When Wells replies, "I don't know what you're talking about," Chigurh elaborates: "I'm talking about your life. In which now everything can be seen at once." Knowing that the moment of death has arrived, Chigurh wants Wells to examine the path that led him here, claiming that the present situation "calls past events into question" (175). Even though Chigurh admits that he and Wells are in the "same line of work," he finds it necessary to distance himself from the other hit-man: "You think I'm like you. That it's just greed. But I'm not like you. I live a simple life" (177). This distinction between the two hired assassins suggests that Chigurh transcends mere criminality. The "simple life" he leads imbues him with the ascetic austerity of a monk pledged to evil, a satanic reversal of traditional, spiritual roles hinted at by other descriptions of Chigurh as a "faith healer" and a "prophet of destruction" (7, 3). In his study of the portrayal of evil in literature and cinema, Paul Oppenheimer points out that evil often "begins in criminality" but then "surpasses criminality, and finally, by comparison with criminality, overwhelms and belittles it, causing it to seem oddly cumbersome and even childish" (21). Chigurh lives by a different "rule," not motivated by the usual spectrum of human desires and thus remaining largely inscrutable.
It is significant that Wells is given a premonition of his own death exactly three days before it takes place. While examining the damage caused by a shootout between Chigurh and Moss at the Eagle Pass motel, Wells notices "two bulletholes in the windowglass" of a "second floor level" apartment across the street. After knocking on the door and receiving no answer, Wells lets himself in and finds the corpse of an old woman: "She'd been shot through the forehead and had tilted forward leaving part of the back of her skull and a good bit of dried brainmatter stuck to the slat of the rocker behind her. . . . A second shot had marked a date on a calendar on the wall behind her that was three days hence" (147). The path of the stray bullet converges with the path of the unsuspecting woman, much as Chigurh's coin converges with the equally unsuspecting gas station owner earlier in the novel. The woman's death reminds Wells of the inexorable machinations of fate: "Not what you had in mind at all, was it darling?" he asks (148). Wells correctly interprets the mark on the calendar as a portent of the day of his own impending death.
During the final encounter, he tells Chigurh, "By the old woman's calendar I've got three more minutes. Well the hell with it. I think I saw all this coming a long time ago. Almost like a dream. Déja vu." Well's words reveal that he had a vision of his own death long before he saw the calendar. Nevertheless, the question posed by Chigurh, namely, "How did you let yourself get in this situation?" suggest that it was still within Wells's power to make different choices, live by a different "rule," and thereby change his fate. Chigurh encourages Wells to engage in a final moment of self-reflection: "I thought you might want to explain yourself. . . . Not to me. To yourself" (178). Chigurh's questions seem to be directing Wells toward something akin to the existentialist concept of authentic existence, which, though "not clearly defined by the existentialists . . . implies an attitude of sincerity and honesty and the absence of self-deception" (de Silva 1). Furthermore, it is a mode of existence based on "a realization that one is what one makes oneself by one's acts" (Manser 20). It is worth mentioning that Sheriff Bell strives for the same realization: "It's a life's work to see yourself for what you really are and even then you might be wrong. And that is somethin I dont want to be wrong about" (295). Despite the fact that Bell and Chigurh are diametrically opposed in a Manichean battle between good and evil, respectively, both men insist on the importance of authentic existence arrived at through knowledge of the self.
Existentialist themes are also apparent in Chigurh's attempts to make his victims come to terms with the inevitability of death. He accuses Wells of believing that he can keep death at bay: "You think that as long as you keep looking at me you can put it off." Wells denies thinking such a thing, but Chigurh insists, "Yes you do. You should admit your situation. There would be more dignity in it. I'm trying to help you" (176). Behind the "existential preoccupation with the theme of death" is the belief that "living authentically is living constantly in its presence, for then alone can we attain 'freedom in the face of death" (Dutt 80). When Wells accuses Chigurh of thinking that he is "outside of everything" and reminds him that he is "not outside of death," Chigurh replies, "It doesnt mean to me what it does to you" (177). The reply can be read in two ways, the surface reading being that Chigurh has adopted an existentialist approach to death. More subtly, however, the words hint at the idea that Chigurh is no ordinary mortal and may perhaps be Death itself, albeit a modern version that carries a pneumatic stun-bolt gun instead of the traditional scythe.
Wells grows weary of the conversation, announcing, "I'm not interested in your opinions. . . . Just do it. You goddamned psychopath. Do it and goddamn you to hell." Despite the verbal command, Wells's body language suggests that he is not quite ready: "He closed his eyes and he turned his head and he raised one hand to fend away what could not be fended away. Chigurh shot him in the face" (177). Although there is some discrepancy between Wells's words and his reaction to the shot, the fact that Wells commands it enables him to reclaim a certain degree of control over his fate, however insignificant it may appear. Furthermore, McCarthy makes a point of informing the reader that the "new day was still a minute away" (178), thereby emphasizing the fact that the old woman's calendar was not entirely accurate. The fact that, by asking Chigurh to shoot him a minute early, Wells refuses to die on the prophesied day suggests that even within a universe ruled by seemingly inexorable forces of fate, minute degrees of free will and personal agency remain.” - Petra Mundik, ‘A Bloody and Barbarous God: The Metaphysics of Cormac McCarthy’ (2016) [p. 268 - 270]
“The Coen brothers built a story of war between two teams: one team represent the human mind wish to understand the world and the second team represent the universe as a chaos. During the first half of the movie the war looks good for the human mind team but then the human mind team lose – a beatiful metaphor for absurdism.
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Result of the war:
Anton kills Carson, Llewelyn is killed by Mexicans, and the sheriff is retired loosing hope in the world.
The Coen brothers message in this film is that they do not think humans mind will ever be able to understand the world and we are doom to internal ignorance. Depressing.”
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createimpact3p0 · 6 months
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Socrates, an iconic Greek philosopher who lived during the 5th century BCE, leaving behind a legacy that has influence even today. Believing in the power of questioning and encouraging people to think critically, he questioned almost everything, including his own knowledge, to be able to get closer to the truth.
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nerdblob · 3 months
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I have this post-it-note on my desk that just says ‘Steve and socratic irony’ its been there for months and I can no longer remember what socratic irony is or how it applies to Steve Harrington ???
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niceshorts28 · 2 months
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omegaphilosophia · 9 months
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Enhancing Everyday Conversations: Applying Logic for Effective Communication
Logic is a powerful tool that can greatly enhance our everyday conversations. By employing logical frameworks and models, we can construct sound arguments, analyze information, resolve disagreements, and foster a deeper understanding of various topics. In this blog post, we will explore some valuable models and frameworks that can assist us in using logic effectively during our conversations, promoting rational discourse and critical thinking.
Socratic Method: Uncovering the Truth through Inquiry- The Socratic Method, named after the ancient Greek philosopher Socrates, involves the art of asking insightful questions to stimulate critical thinking. By engaging in thoughtful questioning, we can challenge assumptions, identify inconsistencies, and encourage a deeper examination of our beliefs and reasoning. This method helps us navigate conversations with intellectual curiosity and promotes logical analysis.
Toulmin Model: Constructing and Evaluating Arguments- The Toulmin Model provides a structured approach to constructing and evaluating arguments. Its elements include the claim (the main statement), grounds (supporting evidence), warrant (connecting the claim and grounds), backing (additional support), qualifier (specifying the strength of the argument), and rebuttal (addressing counterarguments). By employing the Toulmin Model, we can formulate logical arguments and critically assess the strength and validity of others' arguments.
Rhetorical Appeals: Balancing Emotions, Credibility, and Logic- Rhetorical appeals, comprising ethos (credibility), pathos (emotions), and logos (logic), are persuasive tools that help us communicate effectively. While emotions and credibility play important roles in conversations, incorporating logical appeals allows us to present sound reasoning, evidence, and logical coherence. By striking a balance between these appeals, we can influence others through rational persuasion.
Argument Mapping: Visualizing Logical Structures- Argument mapping involves visually representing the structure of an argument using diagrams or software tools. This approach helps us visualize the logical flow of information, identify premises and conclusions, and evaluate the strength and coherence of an argument. Employing argument mapping can bring clarity to complex discussions and facilitate a more systematic evaluation of ideas.
Decision-Making Models: Weighing Options with Logic- Decision-making models, such as cost-benefit analysis, SWOT analysis, or decision trees, integrate logical reasoning to assess options and make informed choices. By applying these models, we can organize relevant information, consider different factors, and weigh the pros and cons based on logical evaluation. These frameworks enable us to make decisions that align with our goals and values.
Critical Thinking Frameworks: Nurturing Rational Discourse- Critical thinking frameworks, such as Bloom's Taxonomy or Paul-Elder's Model of Critical Thinking, provide a structured approach to developing and applying critical thinking skills. These frameworks guide us in analyzing information, evaluating evidence, and constructing logical arguments during conversations. By cultivating critical thinking skills, we can engage in more meaningful and intellectually stimulating discussions.
By incorporating logical models and frameworks into our everyday conversations, we can elevate the quality of our communication. The Socratic Method encourages inquiry and critical thinking, while the Toulmin Model assists in constructing and evaluating arguments. Rhetorical appeals help us balance emotions, credibility, and logic, ensuring persuasive effectiveness. Argument mapping aids in visualizing logical structures, decision-making models facilitate informed choices, and critical thinking frameworks nurture rational discourse.
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shotbyshe · 1 year
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The Socratic method is a form of cooperative argumentative dialogue between individuals, based on asking and answering questions to stimulate critical thinking and to draw out ideas and underlying presuppositions.
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**This is how I was taught to converse. I don’t know how to have a dialogue any other way and I don’t want to. If I’m not going to learn anything by talking or listening to you, then I don’t want to talk or listen to you. This is the way.
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secret-labyrinth · 2 years
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confused-beany · 2 years
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Random but Socrates... was a bitch.
I'm reading some of his early Dialogues for homework and this guy is seriously having the time of his life winding people up and making fun of his friends. Man just said "So you're saying saying playing flute and fighting war is the same?" (Yes, if you're Wei Wuxian) to his buddy Nicias who's trying his best. And then the bitchass Laches - who Nicius saved from Socrates' interrogation by the way - is like, "you dumbass". And Socrates is like, " hey let's not bash on the guy let's help :).". But now Nicias is pissed, "Laches is being a bitch cause he's already proven himself to be a moron."
And then they proceeded to have a verbal fistfight (probably even had an actual fistfight from the vibes) that went down in history.
And Socrates is just standing there all "Interesting"
No wonder people wanted to kill that dude so bad.
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Had another Socratic discussion today, in a fury I wrote this about it:
It’s hard to stay open minded when the alternative opinion being voiced by your worldly or even local peers is just so, incredibly, stupid. Two idiots, twin disciples of the old gods of mass stupidity and uncontrolled idiocy, arguing for forgotten ways left in the dust logically to move on from the errors of bloodshed to be raised upon a pedestal. Look at my hero, my killer, my urger of violence and abandoner of reason, why he is a king worth crowing and living on forever within the tombs of peace makers and world changers. Are you the announcers of your own failing in historical literacy so inane you would put the general beside the protestor and argue they shared ideals because the two enjoyed a fine turkey sandwich every Thursday at separate restaurants? Are you so lost in your understanding of reality you can not see that no soul has ever been one by the bashing of skulls but by the clashing of words? Have you not the mental capacity to stay on hand, to stay objective, to grasp the easily graspable truth that has been known for decades before and shall—should the world not turn to madness under those of your likeness—be known for decades on? I deem you do not, you fools who change the topic to match your lacking sense and deny all who have a brain the right to strangle your thin little necks into understanding—though not even such or a grand hammer could knock sense into you.
Never again do I long to hear from idiots.
I will kill Socrates for ever causing me to endure what has been enduring—my brain already now lacking in a substantial number of cells it once cherished.
(it was a lot easier to read on docs)
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ronk · 4 months
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“Any questions?”
- Socrates
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perception-1111 · 5 months
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classicalshorts · 9 months
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How to Educate Your Children | Jeff Sandefer | EP 336
Peterson draws upon his extensive research and relatable real-life experiences to illustrate how to develop attainable goals for intimate relationships, meaningful friendships, and your career. Transform the chaotic potential of the future into actuality — with a vision. 
Dr Jordan B Peterson and Jeff Sandefer discuss the k-12 education machine, its origins and failures, and how the Acton Academies are making leaps to correct the system. 
Jeff Sandefer is an entrepreneur and Socratic teacher. He started his first business at 16 and graduated from Harvard Business School. Jeff has started and runs many successful companies, his most recent being Sandefer Capital Partners, an oil and gas investment firm with several billion dollars in assets. He has also started multiple academic programs and schools, such as the Acton School of Business, whose students were named the “most competitive MBA’s in the nation” by the Princeton Review. This has since extended into k-12 with the Acton Academy, a cutting-edge program that blends a one-room schoolhouse, the Socratic Method, and 21st-century technology to empower each student to change the world.
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englishmoribund · 1 year
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Erotesis: A Guide to its History, Etymology, and Definition
Erotesis is a term that has roots in both philosophy and rhetoric. It refers to a type of questioning or inquiry that seeks to establish a truth through the asking of questions. Erotesis is used to help clarify, explore, and understand complex ideas, and has been used for centuries by philosophers, scholars, and teachers.
History
The origin of the term “erotesis” can be traced back to ancient Greece. The philosopher Socrates was famous for using a method of questioning known as the Socratic method, which was a type of erotesis. Socrates believed that by asking questions, he could help others see the truth and clarify their thoughts. The Socratic method became famous and was widely adopted by other philosophers, including Plato and Aristotle.
Over time, the concept of erotesis evolved and was also adopted by rhetoric, where it was used as a way to guide the listener or reader towards a particular conclusion. In rhetoric, erotesis is a type of question that presupposes a particular answer, and is used as a tool for persuasion.
Etymology
The word “erotesis” is derived from the Greek word “erotēsis”, which means “question” or “inquiry”. The word “erotēsis” is related to the verb “erōtō”, which means “to ask”. The word “erotesis” has been adopted into modern English, and is widely used in academic and scholarly writing.
Definition
Erotesis is a method of questioning that seeks to establish a truth by asking questions. In philosophy, erotesis is used as a tool for clarifying and exploring complex ideas, and is used by scholars and teachers to help students understand difficult concepts. In rhetoric, erotesis is used as a tool for persuasion, and refers to a type of question that presupposes a particular answer. Erotesis questions are framed in such a way that they guide the listener or reader towards a particular conclusion, and can be seen as a form of suggestive language.
Conclusion
Erotesis is a term with a rich history and a wide range of applications. Whether used in philosophy to clarify complex ideas, or in rhetoric as a tool for persuasion, erotesis remains an important and useful method of inquiry. By asking questions and exploring new ideas, erotesis helps us to better understand the world around us and to expand our knowledge and understanding.
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thearbourist · 2 years
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Fighting Back Against the 'Queer' Conception of Society - The Socratic Method.
Fighting Back Against the ‘Queer’ Conception of Society – The Socratic Method.
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