#sometimes i hate the fandom

[blluespirit]

back on my 'zuko is aroace' agenda. if i have to see one more post arguing about shipping i am going to start biting people. he's actually a single dad and never marries thanks bye.

#obv you do you but i for one am TIRED of the discourse #i hate it!!! i hate it so much!!!! #i love being in fandom but sometimes it makes me *starts screaming* #i search up the character and it's just a tirade of angry posts arguing abt who loves XYZ more or they looked at each other so #there is NO DENYING they're madly in love #like you can ship anyone u want but babe... its so fucking deniable!!!! #so anyway aroace zuko truthers where are u #zuko #jack talks

[batcavescolony]

"I wish ao3 would let me-"

It probably does, you just gotta learn how to do it.

"I wanna see fics for only my opt"

Go to either fandom tag or your ships tag, (if you're doing fandom tag you have to add your ship in the 'relationship' section),go to fliters (mobile) or the right hand side (desktop), go to the 'search within results' area and put in otp:true just like that click 'sort and filter' And it'll pull up all fics with just your otp.

(EDIT: if you wanna do this but still have other parings try otp:false instead of otp:true)

"I wanna sort by _____ not 'Date updated'"

Go to 'filters' or right, theirs a drop down and you can change it to 'author' 'title' 'date posted' ect their are more options. Pick one, click 'sort and filter'

"I don't wanna see /reader"

Filter or Right, go to 'search within results' type in -/reader like that, click 'sort and filter'. No more /reader

"I don't want explicit works"

You know where we're going Right or filter. 'Exclude' section. 'Ratings' click the box that says 'explicit'

Obviously if people don't tag shit correctly it's not gonna work but yeah you just gotta learn how the tagging works. For better tutorials go to TikTok and search 'ao3 tutorials' you can do just about everything.

#ao3 #fanfic #like you can change 99% of the site to fit you. #i have ao3 link made into a icon on my phone that goes to a version of a fandom tag thats got all the ships and shit i dont like excluded #archive of our own #like the people who hate ao3s tagging system and the people who don't wanna learn ao3s tagging system is a circle #theirs a learning curve my friend and onece you have a bit of knowledge you can do anything #knowledge is power #fandom #fanfic readers #its 2am go be free use ao3 #you dont pop out the woomb with all knowledge you gotta learn sometime. same goes for this. go find a teacher (not me) to teach you. #you have leaned addition subtraction division grammer spelling and you can learn this too. go learn. #you can do dark mode. you can make the cite purple. you can add cows. you can change y/n to your name. you just gotta learn

[theminecraftbee]

okay, so in a rare moment for me, there's a discourse thing i want to bring up, and that thing is. okay. so on iskall's stream there's this thing that can happen where someone brings up a criticism of his content or vault hunters. frequently it's self-evidently wrong, but sometimes it's not. and then iskall spends the next thirty minutes shadowboxing this guy, explaining himself, and completely derailed. and this is an iskall trait we all know and sigh bemusedly about, because he cares about the community and wants people to understand his intentions! he wants the community to understand his decisions!

however, it's not the community as a whole he's fighting; he is in fact, arguing with One Guy, who often doesn't represent the wider community, and who normally won't have their mind changed. hell, sometimes it's believable that they're satisfied having just managed to upset iskall, and they'll leave, no change to their mind, perfectly pleased that iskall's responding at all (that's what i firmly believe the people who poke at the 'you don't upload enough and that means you're falling off and a bad person' wound are trying to do, at least).

in the vault hunters community, we refer to this as iskall getting One Guyed, and it's typically viewed as bad, because it ends up focusing an entire moment on a single guy's negative opinion as opposed to on the larger picture. and it's an understandable thing to have happen! but it's frustrating to watch from the outside.

and so now i am looking at that cat poll. and the way everyone is still shadowboxing someone who has since apologized. and the way i would have never ever known about any of the negative comments about jellie if it weren't for fellow mcyt fans constantly putting them on my dash to dunk on them. and it's like. if you look through the notes most of them are just... normal? it's only a tiny few of people (and the pollrunner, who has since apologized) who were being dicks. it's a very, very ignorable demographic.

but. well. there was One Guy. and we had to correct them.

and folks, i don't know how to say that i almost never see "lol mcyt is cringe" type comments unless one of you puts it on my dash. both because i don't go looking through the notes of things that are likely to have them or go looking for reasons to be upset and because it's just... not that common! very frequently these days it is, in fact, One Guy!

i have almost never seen that poll on my dash without at least one instance of the One Guy. instead of being for fun, it's mostly become about explaining ourselves to someone who will not listen and will not change their minds, and treating this as a the whole of the Other Side of that poll, when most people are being... fine. they're fine! the majority of the people voting for the other side are doing it for perfectly normal reasons that don't require fighting about.

and man. let me tell you. after spending as long as i have watching vault hunters development? it can be just as frustrating to watch a fandom get One Guyed as it is to watch iskall.

#discourse #i am immediately turning notes off for this post as a heads up because i HATE discoursing but #man. i feel like i need to point this out. #sometimes you'll be happier if you go 'that was One Guy huh. better just block them and move on. i won't change their mind.' #one day this fandom will learn. #cat of the year poll #<- for those also trying to block it #also i know in many ways this is just me contributing i'm aware of my flaws #but sometimes i think this fandom needs to step back and realize it doesn't really need to fight the world. #sometimes someone says a mean thing. that sucks! you do not need to fight them for two days about it though. #and we do this with polls but also other people's innocuous comments SO MUCH. #so here i am.

[smilingbuckley]

We've only had buck/tommy for a few days and there is already a Buddie fic villainizing Tommy

#sometimes i hate this fandom #911 #evan buckley #buddie #bucktommy #tevan #911 on abc #tommy kinard #911 abc

[corwnvus]

If you hate/blame one of the black brothers for hurting the other, you have no media literacy or the ability to analyse interesting and complex dynamics.

(Or take away interesting flaws from characters. Let YOUR FAVES BE FLAWED AND INTRESTING AND HUMAN!!!)

And that's a you problem 😁

#the marauders #marauders era #regulus black #regulus arcturus black #wolfstar #sirius black #i hate this fandom sometimes #how can you #see somthing so full of life #and say NOPE #you are now pretty cardboard #ughhhh #ive been getting too much hate recently #and i am a angry person #sooo ur all taking the hit

[smultronviol]

Ppl going "waaahh unpopular opinion but Alice is kind of annoying and obnoxious and I don't think I'd like be her friend irl" is so funny to me bc like.

God forbid a cast of characters be multifaceted and have actual flaws and unpleasant aspects other than "grr angsty hero" and "whoops i'm so clumsy". Sometimes character dynamics and arcs need to be prioritized above "who would i personally be niceys with irl"

2. bro just WAIT until you hear about season 1 jon lol

#the magnus protocol #tmagp #season 1 jon was obnoxious and sometimes a straight up ASSHOLE and you were supposed to find him kinda grating!!! #yes alice IS a bit annoying and too much sometimes (esp in the first episodes) and i love that <3 #like. its p obvious that she uses the over the top-thing as a shield (to push ppl away/as a defense mechanism/to avoid being vulnerable) #we see her drop the act sometimes w ppl like teddy and sam who she actually feels comfortable around (and who know and understand her) #but like. she's stuck in a job she hates and is kind of afraid of (she KNOWS smth abt the horrors and is keeping her head down to survive) #(shes obviously afraid of sam going to far bc she KNOWS its dangerous) #so yes her act gets too much sometimes and yes sometimes she crosses the line into straight up mean (esp against gwen) #(but their dynamic is a whole other can of worms) #but like. i'm pretty sure its supposed to be seen that way. the audience isnt supposed to just find her kooky funny #the facade is supposed to be dismantled by the viewer etc etc #kind of like SEASON 1 JON the obnoxious bastard!!!!!!! #like. if you ever think alice is too mean towards gwen pls listen to s1 jon again and how he speaks abt martin?? #from a position as his boss no less? ngl i wanted to throttle him sometimes #you kinda forget abt it in the later seasons and if you only engage w fandom content. but like. go back and listen to the shit #he actually says. jesus christ man. i remember kinda hating him in the beginning #and to be clear i love jon! i think hes a great character! #and like. its almost as if his early season personality and facade was an important setup for his character development #and relationships with the other characters??? #but anyway 'alice is kind of annoying' is not an unpopular opinion its literally the FUCKING POINT #and both her and jon are my sweet baby angels <3 #alice dyer #jon sims #(and obviouslyyy you're still allowed to dislike a character ppl can have their own opinions etc etc etc. i just personally find it funny)

[nightgoodomens]

Crowley: Star maker, Serpent of Eden, fell for not wanting to follow blindly, introduced free will, can stop time even in front of Satan, part of all the important events of history that are known as Lucifer tasks, fooled Hell and Heaven repeatedly, intelligent, sees through bullshit, has a soft heart for kids and animals. Protective of Aziraphale. Offered Duke of Hell job. Chooses freedom each time.

Some idiots: So he’s a dumb bitch who just wants to be controlled by Aziraphale.

Me: *breathes slowly and clicks block*

#I needed to let it out finally #because it’s driving me insane #how much his character is treated in this godforsaken fandom #I hate what’s happening here sometimes #STOP ASSASSINATING HIS CHARACTER

[revvethasmythh]

I don't really understand the idea some people have that being a hater somehow precludes you from thinking a character is complex. like, yes, absolutely, [insert character here] is complex, but I am a hater first and foremost and if I can write a post that dresses them head to toe in clown gear, that is my gods given right. *bangs gavel* you are sentenced to life at the circus, motherfucker. go juggle while i point and laugh. this is what true joy looks like

#liliana they could never make me like you #but no really did you know you don't have to discuss EVERY facet of a character in EVERY post to prove you understand them? #sometimes you can just write simple hate posts about villains and enjoy your life #this is about all of the vanguard leaders btw not just liliana #if they're going to act like clowns i'm going to talk about them like they're at the circus! #this does not mean I think they're (all) flatly villainous with nothing going on in their brains #in my posts they are clowns dancing for my entertainment because this is fandom and that is FUN

[dirtytransmasc]

no matter how hard they tried to pit you guys against each other, they could never make me hate any of you

just cause I like one, doesn't mean I have to hate the others. I love all 4 of my silly little babies.

#has anyone else noticed this? #I swear. sometimes it seems like this fandom insists that if you like one of these characters you have to hate at least on of the others #like people expect me (a spider lover) to hate Neytiri #like *no*. thats my girl. I want nothing but love and light for her. I want her to have peace so she can finaly heal and accept Spider. #or like. *those* 'tey and Lo'ak fans seem dead set on blaming every little thing on Spider. #they seem to think Spider fans can't also like 'tey or Lo'ak #like its not all fans. but its enough #leave my sillies alone. you can't make me hate any of them. #and like. don't kill me. but I've seen the occasional hostility between hardcore 'tey fans and Lo'ak fans... which.... ok then #avatar 2 #avatar the way of water #spider socorro #miles spider socorro #miles socorro #neytiri #neteyam #lo'ak #neteyam sully #lo'ak sully #neytiri sully

[bookofmirth]

sometimes I look at how people in this fandom treat one another, and I just think...

y'all are doing this over an author who wrote a character whose dick is too big for his underwear. Like, she wrote that. On purpose. She wrote random accidental beheading, she mixes up character names, she confuses dates, she wrote a fae king who has packs of red thongs at his house for ??? reasons. I guess because you never know when your guests will need packs of red thongs.

This is the content that you are bullying, harassing, and stalking other actual humans over???

#sjm critical #acotar fandom #sometimes I hate it here #this isn't about anything in particular #just a general observation #hofas #hofas spoilers #the more I think about hofas the angrier I get #and then I see how people treat each other #over THIS???? #SERIOUSLY?????? #delete later maybe

[businessmilk]

#succession #succession hbo #i hate how this makes sense somehow? #this is really the level of shitposting we’re at as we wait for a new season huh? #fandom is very good sometimes

[lgbtlunaverse]

Most annoying NMJ or JC take is when someone that dislikes them is like "oh you're a fan of him? *scoff* Well obviously you've only seen cql, where he was super watered down. In the novel he's a dislikable asshole and that's the objectively superior canon I'm working from instead of your woobified fanfic." Meanwhile your main canon is novel canon and you genuinely find novel Jiang Cheng and Nie Mingjue complex sympathetic characters.

#complaining and whining about fandom #mdzs #cql #the untamed #nie mingjue #jiang cheng #WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING TO THEM #it's quite funny because in nmj's case i actually see shit from cql being carried over to novel canon to hate on him #for example my's treatment under the nie was explicitly much worse in cql because they transplanted the langya captain to qinghe #while the worst we see post-promotion in the novel is cultivators (WHO AREN'T EVEN NIE!) wiping ther teacups #(they're visiting from other clans like xichen. That's also why none of them had seen meng yao before.) #you can absolutely choose to interpret that worse things were happening to him at the hands of the nie off-page #it's definitely possible! but cql has people acting like it's objective canon #also the thing about empathy being inaccurate and biased in nmj's favor #that's another cql thing. in novel canon wwx can and does see things nmj does not notice (like the teacups!) #so even if he has some insight into nmj's thoughts and feelings it quite literally can't be showing things exclusively from his perspective #it was a pretty cool ceative decision from cql! gave us some very interesting character moments! #but sometimes i see people discuss the novel going 'and this was warped by nmj's bias i bet he was even worse in reality' girl wrong medium #in jiang cheng's case a lot of hate seems to be coming from the corner of cql!mains too #so clearly it can't be *that* big a difference in likability

[ashipiko]

<3 post sleepover mornings

#POST RAMBLE TIME #OK SO ASHI LIKE KINDA CANONICALLY HATES IDIA #ace knows that she hates a guy named gloomurai. leona knows she hates IDIA #already she wasn’t a v big fan of idia till she ended up bored in twst and downloaded a rhythm game and your usual gacha game for fun #and like in the gacha game there was a ranking event for her oshi…… #and based on how many points you scored in the event you get a percentage #SO IN ORDER TO LIKE….. IN A SENSE GROOVY A CARD YOU HAVE TO GET ANOTHER COPY OF IT THRU THE EVENT #and when Ashi woke up after cramming ranking because of the whole book 6 fiasco #she found out that she ranked 4.1%. A LITERAL ONE PLACE FROM GETTING THE CARD FOR HER OSHI #and who was it other than gloomurai! #so sometimes she gets him in co-op meetings and she gets SOOOOOO ANGRY #once ashi connects two and two……. she has her own very personal grudge #ace finds it very funny. leona finds it annoying that he has to babysit her whenever they see Idia in the halls #THATS A LOT OF TAGS AM I GONNA RUN OUT OF FANDOM TAGS UH OH #BUT YSAH!!! this is ashace after a sleepover and the morning where ashi’s in the mood to play some games #ace likes to watch <3 #(he tried her speed and while on master. died v quickly) #ashipiko draws ♪ #ashace #twstshi #ace trappola #ace trappola x oc #twst yume #twst #twisted wonderland #twst wonderland #twst ace #twst yuu #twst oc #twst oc x canon

[assiraphales]

if usopp didnt have a conventionally goofy character design the sanuso ship would fly high bc they are soooo flirty

(even tho usopp is a cutie got the last laugh with the FINEST live action casting)

patiently waiting for live action sanji to get usopp's goggles back in alabasta to jumpstart a lil something something for them

#sanuso #sometimes ppl choose an “easy” ship over one with more canon fodder #no hate ship what u want! but sanji x usopp has a LOT going on. so flirty. so much touching. surprisingly little fandom acknowledgement #sanji also knows usopp so well even if he pretends he doesn't #and cares sooooooo much for him #one piece #opla from what I hear did wonders for zolu #work ur magic again babe!!!!!

[penaltyboxboxbox]

the annoying fandom post is so funny like. as someone who used to be active in like a lot more classical and big name fandoms. the shit that happens here is so much less annoying to me than any of that ever was........

#i feel like. in rpf fandoms we dont.....have the same horrible purity culture of fictional fandoms #like here i have never encountered things like blocklists over liking a fictional character #or a weird ship or something... #stress about liking the media the correct way yk.. #like we have different drama but it is the same drama that is always #borne from Sports Rivalries so i find it much less annoying. idk. #like yeah people will hate you and block you for supporting a driver sometimes #but like. idk. that feels so much more substantial than causing shitstorm over....liking a character in a tv show #who literally doesnt exist 😭 #i also just find rpf fandoms generally to be MUCH less judgemental by just their nature of being one of the outcast parts of fandom