‘it is not without significance that i am called by the name of soredamors. i am destined to love and be loved in turn...’
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soredamors appreciation post
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elaine of garlot and clarissant get together regularly for some prime auntie-niece bonding and to relax away from (and complain about) their more famous and disasterous siblings send tweet
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Alright. Tell me of your retelling
Well, I’ve decided to pull bits and pieces that I like from other stories and tweak some things as it suits me. Here’s a list of things:
- Mordred will be more of a hero, as he was characterized in some of the earliest stories.
- For the Arthur-Guenevere-Launcelot love triangle, I’m making Guenevere the bad guy.
- Sir Ector fought with Aurelius Ambrosius to help put him back on the throne.
- Arthur’s first wife will be Lyonors, the daughter of Earl Sanam. A few years into their marriage, she bears him a son, named Borre. A year or so after that, she dies, leaving Arthur to struggle with raising his son and being king. At the urging of the older, more pretentious knights, he gets engaged to Guenevere. This causes a lot of other things.
- Laurel will be the cousin of Lynette and Lyonesse.
- Uther is “friends” with Merlin. It starts with Uther just pretending to be friends with him, needing his powers, but then it becomes genuine. However, he’s possessive of him, needing him to be his friend.
- Sir Bors has Asperger syndrome.
- The order of the Orkney siblings goes like this: Gawain, Soredamors, Agravaine and Clarissant (twins), Gaheris, Gareth, and Mordred. (There may be one more sibling added, Elayne.)
- Sir Gawain’s squire, Yvonet, is incredibly loyal to him, and, even after Yvonet becomes a knight himself, if it comes down to it, he will act as Gawain’s squire rather than a knight.
- Dinadan had a lover who was a Leanan Sidhe, an Irish vampire who gives inspiration to poets and musicians. Usually, a Leanan Sidhe shares with their lovers their intelligence, magic, and creativity, and when the Leanan Sidhe leaves, their lover dies from grief. The Leanan Sidhe then took their lover’s body to their lair and puts their blood in a cauldron, which is the source of their inspiration and beauty. So, when Dinadan ran away from home, he travelled a bit and met one. He was in a relationship with her, but he discovered the cauldron. His admiration turned to disgust as he learned what she was. He managed to get away and never went back to Ireland.
- Guenevere was the reason Dinadan died. She wanted to make Launcelot believe in her, so she told him that Dinadan was going to die. He didn’t believe her, but she used her powers to possess Agravaine, who was on a quest with Dinadan to end the previously mentioned Leanan Sidhe’s rein in Ireland. They were heading back when Agravaine attacked the already injured Dinadan. When Agravine awoke from the possession, he rushed Dinadan back to Camelot, where he died in Launcelot’s arms.
That’s about all I can think of for now. Thanks for asking; have a great day!
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I can’t believe I forgot to wish you all a very pleasant vvalevvein vvednesday yesterday im so fucking sorry. apologetically wishing you all a very pleasant soredamors thursday
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some notes in my own personal hcs as to age difference and birth order irt to the dorcanies:
gawaine obv was first, he was not planned (conceived out of wedlock, the lot-anna marriage was both for love and for uther’s political convenience u_u)
agravain came very fast after gawaine (they were born within the same 12 months of each other) but he was planned for
there was a break then, gaheris was born four years after agravain.
gareth was born 7 years after gaheris, the biggest gap.
gareth was going to be the last child, modred came along about 4-5 years after he did and was not planned for either. his legitimacy also remained murky as well (in all of my canons i plan it out w the intention of him being lots son but there’s definitely plenty ambiguity about it)
this^ is just for traditions where there’s the classic five though, in chretien i’d put soredamors after gawaine and agravain by about two years, make gaheris and gareth either twins or very closely consecutive four years after soredamors, (modred doesn’t seem to exist but if he did id put him where gareth was), and clarissant would be in modred or gareths place as the last
in traditions where it’s just gawaine and modred theyre about four years apart lol
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muse overview --- GWALCHMAI OF GODODDIN ( sir gawain )
name: gwalchmai of gododdin
epithets / titles: gwalchmai dafod aur / gwalchmai golden tongue; the hawk of may; the maiden’s knight; king of gododdin and heir to camelot; saint govan.
nickname: gawain (only to be used by his most intimate companions)
parents: lot luwddoc, king of gododdin; queen anna morgawse pendragon
siblings: medrod pendragon (half-sibling; older); agravain; gaheris; gareth; of gododdin.
spouse: ragnelle of the woods / the loathly lady
lovers: amie of wales; orguelleuse of logres; amurfina of carlisle; helaes the beautiful; blanchemal the fey; florie.
illegitimate children: beaudous the knight of two shields, via amie, princess of wales. gingalain the fair unknown via blanchemal the forest fey. unnamed child (deceased) by florie.
legitimate children: soredamor; cawrdaf; henec the skillful; lovell; peren; saint tenoi
notable extended family: arthur pendragon (uncle); morganna of gore (aunt); ywain the great (cousin & close companion).
horses: keincaled; gringolet
religion: raised pagan, converted to christanity of his own violation.
born at the same time as king lot’s favorite hawk hatched a new kettle of eyas, gwalchmai was named in referenced to them, and always affectionately called the hawk of may by the people of gododdin as a result. however this was the primary memory of his father that gwalchmai would carry with him through his life, for lot of gododdin was at war for the beginning of gwalchmai’s life and, soon after, dies in battle at the hands of king pellinor. his mother, queen morgawse, attempted to continue the battles, but gododdin, eventually, fell to the force of camelot. young gwalchmai was then sent to live in camelot, under the watchful of his uncle arthur, alongside his younger brothers.
there in camelot, it fell to gwalchmai to care for his brothers, see to their education, and perhaps most importantly, keep the memory of their father and country alive. as years went by, however, this became more and more difficult for gwalchmai; he clung to his accent, to the messages from his mother, to the letters from his bastard, older brother medrod, to the feud against pellinor’s family, to keep the memories alive and thriving. technically, with his father dead, he was king of goddodin, but his mother was ruling in his stead, as his regent, as the dowager queen. as a boy, gwalchmai wondered why he couldn’t return, why he wasn’t allowed to leave camelot and return home to rule; he was told he had to finish his education in camelot, that morgawse needed him in camelot, along with so many other things that never truly answered his questions. eventually, gwalchmai stops asking and accepts this state of things --- he is a king who cannot return to his homeland; whose mother rules in his stead.
as a squire, he took his duties seriously, wanting to be the best knight possible and to experience every adventure (anything to be allowed out of camelot) such as the mishap with the green knight during on christmas. on one such adventure, he seduces amie, the princess of wales, unintentionally ruining her reputation (she gives birth to a bastard that gwalchmai is unaware of). not too long afterward, he falls in with orguelleuse, the widow of logres, who then attempts to imprison him when he must leave, only for gwalchmai to talk his way out of it. these two scandals earn him the epithet of dafod aur, or “the golden tongue.” when gwalchmai is trapped by three witch-sisters in their own castle, and manages to defeat them with his cunning alone (as their powers left him no other weapon against them), this epithet began being used in a more respectful, genuine fashion.
when arthur marches against rome, gwalchmai is a force unto himself in the war, eventually being knighted by the pope himself at the end. he befriends lancelot once the boy joins them, and gwalchmai, generally speaking, gains a reputation of fearlessness. at the end of campaign, gwalchmai, as arthur’s legal heir in the eyes of the church, is left behind in rome. while arthur claims it is for gwalchmai to enforce arthur’s rule while finishing his education, gwalchmai feels as if he’s only switched the eyes upon him. he falls into old patterns, starting an affair with helaes the beautiful, which prompts him to earn the attention of the fairy blanchemal, who bewitches him for a spell until he breaks the enchantment. this unnerves him enough, that the next affair to enters into with a simple girl named florie is longer lasting, and only dissolves when she suffers a stillbirth. this, combined with his misadventure with blanchemal, shakes him enough that he seeks solace in other things, eventually converting to christianity as a result.
with arthur’s second wife dead and him expected to marry a third, gwalchmai returns to camelot for the high king’s wedding to guinevere. after the death of the high king’s lover, gwalchmai helps to uncover the answer to a riddle: what do women most desire? the answer (sovereignty) is discovered and gwalchmai agrees to marry the one who supplied the answer: a troll woman, a most loathly lady. while he does so to keep his uncle’s honor, gwalchmai is also widely aware of how upsetting such a match would be to his mother’s and uncle’s political ambitions for him. this is something for himself, in a world where he’s never been asked what he preferred. on the night of wedding, however, ragnelle reveals herself to be a beautiful lady, asking if gwalchmai would prefer to look thus at night or during the day. he gives her sovereignty and asks her which she prefers, as a result she remains beautiful entirely.
his marriage is a happy one, despite the unrest it causes his mother, though she soon comes to it in stride. however, after the death of his mother (which coincides with the birth of his daughter, soredamor), gwalchmai is expected to fall into ruling lothian, a fate which he does not want. kingship has never been synonymous with power for him, and he does not see how he could properly rule a place he hasn’t been to since he was a boy; he considers his half-brother, medrod, a better fit and attempts to nudge medrod in that direction, to not much avail. with the high king having no sons of his own, now, gwalchmai is being looked toward as the future of camelot ... which he also does not want. camelot has been both home and prison for him, and he longs more to create a home of his own rather than remain there. while (as far as gwalchmai is aware) medrod may not have any blood rights to camelot, gwalchmai does point out to arthur that medrod is married to the queen’s sister, perhaps their sons could suffice as heir through that linage?
but then sir lancelot murders gwalchmai’s younger brothers and lancelot’s affair with queen guinevere is revealed. gwalchmai remains neutral in the affair debacle, but he seeks vengance against lancelot for the murder of his brothers. this is what gwalchmai focuses on, even after medrod rebels and seizes the throne. there is some cry for high king gwalchmai amongst all the fighting, but he does not follow the banners. the most he does is use his influence to gather the lothian forces to war against lancelot, reaching a point of near baiting lancelot (who wishes him no harm) to duel him. eventually they do duel, and gwalchmai is left mortally wounded.
upon enough recovery, he formally abdicates his throne, leaving his son, cawrdaf, on the throne. after which, he leaves lothian and camelot behind to live a peaceful, saintly life on the coast. to the locals he eventually becomes known as saint govan and when he eventually dies years later, he is buried beneath the chapel he built there.
other notes: gwalchmai’s encounter with the green knight differs in that it isn’t morgan’s influence and it happens early on in his squirehood so it’s more about him learning what it is to be a knight rather than how he has failed to be one; he retains the fox pellet from this adventure to remind himself to be honest and cunning and act without deceit. when he leaves for the seaside with ragnelle, only their daughter tenoi accompanies them, who eventually takes up gwalchmai’s saintly mantle.
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jessie mei li could be my soredamors fancast...
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soredamors would do numbers on r/namenerds
things i remember about gawaine and his families appearance off the top of my head:
the vulgate is the most specific i think. gawaine is very handsome and is ‘not too tall and not too short’, agravain is taller than gawaine, is beautiful, and is ‘somewhat misshapen’ in the body, gaheris has a right arm longer than the left, gareth is described as MARVELOUSLY handsome, modred is very tall and has curly blonde hair and would be handsome if he wasn’t scowling all the time.
soredamors in cliges is described as being very white and having golden blonde hair
the knight with two swords says that gawaine’s hair is sorrel, which is sort of brown. his hair is also curly
itonje in parzival has dark hair
in the alliterative morte gawaine has grey eyes
gawaine is consistently mentioned to be beautiful a lot of the time actually in walewein ende keye somebody describes him as like getting more beautiful the more they looked at him. in the rise of gawain he’s also said to be an infant of great beauty.
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the way de troyes describes soredamors here is a hate crime towards me personally
In attempt to get back into writing, here's
A bit about my Arthurian anthology (retelling) that nobody asked for:
Whispers: it's going to be a mess... sorry... It's also long and out of order...
Ambrosius was poisoned by Uther, his brother by their father’s second wife
Uther is a shape-shifter and Gwrlais studied magic while fostering under Consul Aurelius
Igraine is Jewish. I don’t know; it just feels right. And she’s a proven warrior (her sisters, too).
Anna is Gwrlais’ eldest, then Elaine, then Morgan
Merlin puts Arthur in a brothel (I’m sorry, but I really enjoyed that idea from King Arthur: Legend of the Sword)
Uther’s next, and only other child, was named Anna, and she is not to be confused with Anna of Orkney
Arthur leaves the brothel at 14 after he turns Cai (who is 17) in to the city guard for whatever crime he’s committed; Sir Ector comes to inquire after him, intrigued by the boy, and takes him away with him when his secret heritage is made known
Cai is acting out due to his father, Cynyr Ceinfarfog, and mother, Sir Ector’s currently unnamed sister (probably named Elaine 😂 *shot*🙃), being killed; Sir Ector is his uncle, and he loves him, but he’s frustrated and grieving
Arthur is called “Boy Rivers” until Sir Ector takes him in, giving him back the name Arthur; Cai calls him Wart every chance he can
Bedwyr is black and two handed at first; he and Arthur meet in battle against the Saxons and they become fast pals. Griflet is mixed race
Arthur stole pigs belonging to Mark, King of Cornwall; finds it hard to trust Arthur after that, even after Arthur pulls the sword Clarent from The Anvil™️
The sword Clarent is pulled from an anvil on a stone
There are three Guineveres: G1 mothers Arthur’s daughters; G2 dies within the first year; G3 mothers Amr and much later Loholt.
Arthur marries G2 when he becomes King of Logres after pulling Clarent; he’s approximately __ years old (I really need to find the timeline that I did... I think he was, like, in his thirties?)
Lancelot tries to repress his homosexuality. Galehaut encourages his exploration (but never pushes) but his duty to King and Country™️ keep him away a lot; the longer Lancelot is around Arthur, the more he falls in love with him, the more he represses it, the more he needs to convince himself he loves Guinevere. He’s a confused mess.
Lot is not the name of the King of Lothian (anymore; he dies), it’s Uen; when Mordred is 13, he curses his ‘father’ so that the world will forget the man’s name
May Day Massacre totally happened and that’s when Gawain uncovered his sun-powers
Geheris has Moderate-ID
Mordred spends his 14th birthday on a ship to Norway; he doesn’t see his family again until he’s 17 and he returns with strong Viking-ties
Most of the Orkney Clan look next to nothing alike: Gawain is big and strapping with red hair and freckles galore; Ywain has auburn hair and light freckling, he’s a bit narrow and willowy; Gravaine is built like a barn and pale like his father with black hair; Clarissant, Agravaine’s twin, shares his black hair and stocky build but she has freckles that covered her face; Soredamor has medium-brown hair, she’s the tallest and thinnest of the lot, but physically frail with a chronic cough; Geheris is stocky with black hair, a red beard, a ruddy skin tone, and freckles; Cai the Grumbler, or Calogrenant, has light brown hair and green eyes; Gareth is albino with mismatched eyes (one brown, one pale); Mordred’s hair is long and dark brown and his eyes match Arthur’s grey; Yvain has freckles and Urien's black hair and short stature; Morfydd has pale blonde hair, dark brown eyes, and is short and curvy
Tristan and Mordred are bros who adopt each other almost immediately
Gay Squad: Dinadan, Galehaut, Lancelot, Ywain, Calogrenant
Bi-Team: Galahad, Gawain, Lamo (Mordred’s servant), Bertilak, Mabon ap Modron
Aces: Morgan le Fay, Mordred, Ambrosius Aurelianus
Magic users: Uther Pendragon, Gwrlais, Morgan, Guinevere the Third, Myrddin, Mordred, Cwyllog, Iseult (Queen of Cornwall, Princess of Ireland), technically Tristan via harp, Gawain via solar power, technically Cai because giants
Tristan seems drunk when he’s sober and he knows elf-tunes; the court learned that the hard way when they heckled him one too many times and he magicked those of them who weren’t sent out of the hall into an orgy they never speak of
As much as Cai honestly loves being a knight, he's also got this secret passion for cooking and all things culinary; despite all his outward protesting of being Seneschal, he actually jumped at the chance, seeing it as a way to indulge his "little selfish interest" and to sort out all the riffraff trying to get in with Arthur
I’m about convinced that the Orkneys as a unit lean Slytherin and Pellinore’s family leans Griffindor; this is not the cause of the feud but a participating factor in why it keeps escalating as it does
G3 is technically a low(low low)-level earth goddess tied to the land (family of Welsh giants), and that's part of the reason she feels drawn to the men she's drawn to but her actions towards --and with-- them are her own
Guinevak is G3's twin in every way but mothering, magic, and looks; she's the rejected bastard who spends a lot of time with Mordred, Galahad, Calogrenant, and Tristan; envious of G3, Lynette, and Cwyllog --each for different reasons
Urien was first married to Modron (the relationship deteriorated after Mabon's abduction and she returned to Annwn) before patiently pressing suit to Morgan who eventually yields as "friends in matrimony". After Morgan chooses Accolon for a lover, Urien is upset but allows this, naming him as her personal knight
Urien does not do comfort. Ask Morgan and Anna about when they found out Uen had sent Mordred away and the mother was distraught
Bedwyr loses his right hand as penance for Arthur stealing King Mark's pigs.
Yvain is a bastard child sired by Urien on his steward's wife after Morgan and Accolon are... happy together
Anna of Orkney is... twisted up. She loves her children (a little... too much sometimes) and tries to do right by them but... well... yeah... it's... it's no bueno
Cai has super powers. Access giant-size, extra endurance, impervious to hot or cold, and heat-radiating hands
Uther is... terrible. He's the sorta worst, really. Seriously, the things he does
Eigyr is not passive in captivity; that does not mean things go well for her
Morgan was learning magic from Gwrlais and took his scrolls and books on the subject hostage after his death
Gwrlais' daughter Elaine (the one who marries Nentres) is devotedly Jewish like her mother and raises her children as such (such as Galeshin and Hoel).
Nentres adores Elaine in marriage and even before that took his vows as her knight and betrothed seriously; he carries whipping scars on his back (from Uther) for trying to rescue Morgan from a monastery in her name. He tells Arthur later that he bears them proudly
Cai's parents are dead because of Uther (I can't remember how) and Sir Ector's father was a Roman soldier who stayed behind
Mordred is technically Melehan's step-father (he's a bastard by rape) but only Mordred and the mother know. They don't talk about it
Elaine of Garlot has psychological damage from the things Uther has done to her family and others in front of her. She has no tolerance for violence and aggression.
Tristan has PTSD and severe depression; he's also an alcoholic
Nentres slowly poisoned Uther over the years with hemlock
Mordred's first wife is a Lothian common girl-turned-slave-turned-servant that he's known from childhood. Her name is Julianna, and her family name is Ruricius, coming from a Roman-merchant connection
Morgan has been locked in a monastery twice; she escapes the second time after Uther's death and runs into Urien for the first time
Urien owns the first claymore. His father had it made for him as joke but he's a pro now so, well, guess who has the last laugh?
Agravaine killed a Unicorn as a child; it's okay, Unicorns are kinda evil here and will straight-up murder you
Urien doesn't age, eat, or drink (he hasn't since Modron); he still looks super young, roughly 16-17. His younger brothers and later on his own children look older than him
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okay I’ve cracked the code, the Orkneys and the Listenoises all have a direct parallel between their families
Gawain and Lamorak: himbo thots / Top 10 Round Table Champions
Agravain and Aglovale: names that start with Ag / only known for like one thing (for Aglovale it’s fathering Morien, for Agravain it’s treachery)
Gaheris and Dornar: middle child nobody cares about
Soredamors and Alyne: random daughter nobody cares about
Gareth and Perceval: the one everybody likes
Clarissant and Dindrane: certified Weird Girls
Mordred and Tor: bastard sons who hate their fathers
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Soredamors has apparently made some kind of vow or something that she’ll never fall in love, or just hates love on general principle, and is now basically singing “I Won’t Say I’m In Love” from Disney’s Hercules over Alexander. Which I guess I can almost understand in an era where marriage meant giving up so much, but still feels like contrived conflict.
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