#species 8472

[doctorslippery]

Starting to think that Starfleet needs better security.

And that Section 31 are shit at their job.

#star trek #memeage #starfleet #ai #klingons #species 8472 #romulans #changelings

[star-trekster]

Star Trek Winamp skins collected from internet archive-captbaritone

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[alphamecha-mkii]

Species 8472 at Sierra Tango by Doug Drexler

#Star Trek #Species 8472 #Federation #Starfleet #Intrepid Class #USS Voyager #Sci-Fi #Mecha #Spaceship #Doug Drexler

[turbofanatic]

Sometimes you gotta sketch those aliens you saw as a kid and thought they were the coolest things ever despite the iffy graphics.

Species 8472 from Voyager. I’ve decided the stringy bits are for plucking to make music to impress one of the other 5 genders. They only grow them part of their “year” in fluidic space based on pressure changes. Their hearing is mostly poor but they have good low frequency hearing mostly to hear the harp rituals and the songs of their living ships.

As the Voyager was partially organic with poor immune system precautions, Species 8472 immediately considered it a “plaguebearer” a form of WMD. This lead to their unfortunate initial hostility.

#star trek #star trek voyager #species 8472 #I am just making lore up

[usstrekart]

"In the Flesh" (S05E04, Stardate 52136.4) wraps a nice bow on the Species 8472 arc and allows us to explore a cold war of sorts from the 24th century. Janeway's solution is daring, but right in line with the Federation's values and Chakotay gets that second kiss.

My episode poster for features a Stafleet officer… or does it? That shadow looks conspicuous…

#star trek fan art #episode art #star trek #episode poster #fan art #star trek art #star trek poster #star trek voyager #in the flesh #species 8472 #undercover #starfleet #federation #spies

[isagrimorie]

One of the things that's been lobbed against Janeway other than the whole infuriating Tuvix thing is that Janeway made an alliance with the Borg so they'll be granted safe passage through Borg space.

And it's canonically not true.

The safe passage part of the agreement is something Janeway threw in. She allied with the Borg because the Borg was the devil she knew and because while the Borg assimilated, Species 8472 wanted to eliminate all life.

It was Arturis from Hope and Fear in the season 4 finale who claimed Janeway made an alliance with the Borg just because she wanted safe passage for her crew through Borg-occupied Space.

Species 8472 told Kes: "The weak will perish."

And when Janeway tried to broker peace with Species 8472 this is what they replied through Kes:

"They say our galaxy is impure. Its proximity is a threat to their genetic integrity."

[snip]

"They said your galaxy will be purged."

Also, the way they displayed the Borgs they killed:

This is brutal and doesn't at all bode well. Sure Voyager writers disappointingly pulled the teeth from Species 8472 a season later but that doesn't indicate Species 8472 are cuddly.

Janeway made the right choice stopping Species 8472 -- especially since they only showed contempt for anyone living outside of fluidic space. Their attitudes aren't far off from how the Changeling Founders viewed Solids.

The unfortunate consequence of driving Species 8472 back to fluidic space is that it meant the Borg would want to replenish the numbers they lost.

But as the Twelfth Doctor once said: "Sometimes the only choices you have are bad ones but you still have to choose."

#star trek voyager #kathryn janeway #species 8472 #thinky thoughts

[charseraph]

8472

#my art #species 8472 #star trek voyager

[stra-tek]

I think this is a publicity shot with an in-joke by Foundation Imaging. From the Eaglemoss Official Starships Collection magazine #147

#star trek #star trek voyager #species 8472 #voyager #cg art

[funnywormz]

voyager rarepair that i can't stop thinking abt........ valerie archer (member of species 8472 impersonating a human) x chakotay.............. im genuinely developing brainworms abt them. Help

imagine she visits voyager again but in her true form this time. initially chakotay is a little frightened, maybe even disgusted by her. but he's mature enough to not let that get in the way of being friendly with her. they start talking and reminiscing abt the time they spent together on the starfleet hq recreation, and she's still the same woman he was attracted to, she still makes the same jokes, has the same taste in books.......... he still loves conversation with her, loves being around her.

and maybe after a few days he gets used to how she looks, and starts to learn the body language for her species. and suddenly she isn't scary anymore. after a while, maybe he starts to recognise and understand her beauty. they read together. he shows her places on earth on the holodeck. she tells him about species 8472's culture, shows him how fluidic space can also be beautiful, in its own way.

one day, something wells up in his chest that he can't push back down, and he asks to kiss her. she smiles, or does whatever the species 8472 version of smiling is, and says yes, "even though humans are so strange looking". from there, they only fall in love with each other more............

does anyone else see my vision or do i just sound nuts lol

#species 8472 #voyager #valerie archer #chakotay #star trek #voy #SORRY. IM INSANE

[fakedtales]

Are you one of those rubes who thinks Star Trek: First Contact was the real first contact? In the most recent Casual Trek episode we’re talking about aliens living among us, including Carbon Creek. This was an alternate title and cover for the episode, celebrating the real truth about Vulcans hiding on Earth in the 1950’s. It’s available on all good podcatchers!

#podcast #star trek #star trek voyager #enterprise #Star Trek enterprise #Vulcans #carbon creek #in the flesh #species 8472 #casual trek #nerd and tie

[defconprime]

Boothby Replicant from Star Trek Timelines, 2021.

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[queerlybelovdd]

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[startrekucast]

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[sshbpodcast]

Pew Pew: Starship Power Levels

by Chris

A few weeks back we briefly discussed CBR’s starship power rankings article. While there are certainly some fine choices on the list, there are more that make positively no sense. The enormous and potent V’ger carrier —  which we’ll get into more later — is in the final spot, beaten out by the likes of…the Defiant. No, really. In fact, several Starfleet ships, from both the original and Kelvin timelines, are ranked well above that, the Borg cube, and several other vessels that could easily mulch them.

(images (c) CBS/Paramount)

We threatened to hash it out in more detail ourselves, and we’ve made good in our latest episode, #279, which you can listen to on our Soundcloud (or wherever you get your podcasts). There’s a lot more there, but here’s my thoughts based on our discussion.

So we decided a ship’s “power” is determined by things that are intrinsic to it. For example: the Genesis Device can wipe out a planet, but is something any old ship can lug around. But the Krenim temporal weapon-ship needs its entire infrastructure in order to serve its purpose; it’s not just a component you could hot-swap onto a runabout.

Also, since we’ve brought up Red Foreman’s toy, let’s just get this out of the way: the Krenim time-weapon ship is clearly the most powerful thing we’ve ever seen because it could wipe out literally any other ship by simply undoing the society that created it. Unlike, say, the Relativity or Aeon, it doesn’t even need to actually travel through time to mess with history. The Captain simply shouts “history leave!” and Bob Mortons an entire civilization, ripping reality a new space-hole in the process. Plus the ship’s temporal shielding seems to impart immortality on its crew, and being able to dole out the curse of eternal life is horrifying and impressive.

So, with that out of the way, how about more traditional ships? Another point we decided on is we have to have had some concrete example of the ship’s abilities. The Enterprise-J is on the original list, for example, even though we literally do not see what she can do nor how she compares to other ships of her era. From what we do see in the 23rd/24th centuries, all the major Alpha Quadrant powers (Starfleet, Romulans, Klingons, etc) seem pretty on-par with one another. The Klingons maybe have a little extra oomph since they’re resistant to the Breen power-sapping weaponry from the off. The aforementioned Breen have what guest James called an excellent “gotcha”, but once you know how to defend against the trick they’re really no more potent than anyone else.

But now let’s look Delta-side. Remember the Ramurans? The Voyager crew didn’t, thanks to…uh…science? But their ships seem pretty mighty. They can fire while cloaked, and no one has yet to work out to shield against their weapons. Since they can’t properly be scanned and no one remembers meeting them nobody can remember to keep researching their weaponry if they survive a fight with them. The only Ramurans we see destroyed are by another Ramuran. So as far as small-scale vessels go, they seem pretty potent.

But what about the bigger folks? The Whale Probe disables ships just by flying near them, and can boil oceans into mist. It’s unclear how strong its hull is since no one ever gets close enough to take a shot at it, and we don’t know what weapons it might have should its power-drain trick not work. So while it is undeniably powerful, its upper limits remain a mystery.

The Voth city-ship can transport Voyager into her cavernous insides as easily as a regular ship teleports a person. That’s the only thing we see, but considering how much energy it must be able to produce and how long they’ve been a technologically advanced civilization, we can figure they likely pack quite the punch in other areas.

Well before Voyager, back in the TOS days we got The Doomsday Machine. Capable of consuming a planet in no time flat, it was resistant to every weapon the Enterprise could throw at it. Ultimately it took overloading the decrepit Constellation’s warp core and shoving the resulting blast directly down the device’s throat that ended its destructive roaming.

At least, however, it had no weapons beyond its maw. A Borg Cube, meantime, has lethal offensive capabilities as well as extremely adaptable defenses. Taking one down generally relies on either somehow connecting to the collective (Best of Both Worlds, pt 2) or knowing how to target weak points due to inside information (Star Trek: First Contact).

Or or just being Species 8472 and its crazy bioships. Small and unassimilatable, only a handful of these tiny things could take out fleet of Borg cubes without breaking a sweat. It was only an un uneasy (and perhaps ill-conceived) alliance of Borg tech and Starfleet “let’s throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks” chutzpah that lead to being able to do any damage to them.

But as far as ships that we see in action go, can you really top V’ger’s ship? Enormous to begin with, it can generate an energy cloud a full AU across, completely vaporize ships and space stations in a single shot, has the accumulated knowledge of most of the galaxy, and would have wiped out Earth had it not decided it liked the look of Deckard in his jumpsuit.

…alright, that last point is a pretty bad weakness. Maybe it did belong in last place?

#star trek #Voyager #star trek voyager #starships #starship #v'ger #Borg #breen #starfleet #klingon #romulan #species 8472 #the one with the whales #Star Trek TNG

[usstrekart]

"Prey" (S04E16, Stardate 51652.3) brings a lot to the table with the Hirogen, 8472 and Janeway vs. 7 of 9. I like learning more about the Hirogen, but the Janeway/7 clash leaves me disappointed. Janeway is as much to blame for the situation, assumes no responsibility and is punitive. Bad leadership.

"Prey" is technically a continuation of "Hunters" so I kept the style the same and simply changed the focus of the Hirogen prey.

#star trek poster #star trek fan art #star trek #fan art #star trek voyager #episode art #star trek art #episode poster #prey #hunters #hirogen #delta quadrant #species 8472 #janeway #seven of nine

[isagrimorie]

Trek fandom always accused Voyager of removing teeth from the Borg. It’s true in some instances (Unimatrix Zero) but I still think they’re still able to convey the Borg thread, in the Delta Quadrant, the fear of the Borg is as natural as breathing.

The enemy I thought they, not nerfed, but ruined the potential— Species 8472.

It also didn’t make Janeway’s decision to ally with the Borg look good.

I loved the ambiguity of Hope and Fear episode when Janeway was confronted with her decision to ally with the Borg to stop Species 8472.

And then in season 6, suddenly Species 8472 are cuddly just because they took Human form?

I dunno, it just stripped the potential of a truly interesting enemy that gave the Borg a run for their money.

#star trek voyager #species 8472