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rosedark88 · 2 days
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Sam is overprotective towards Dean
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We all know that Dean is overprotective, we know that he can be really a mom to Sam. But Sam, Sam is true sweetheart:
When Dean is in trouble or in dangerous, not only does Sam take charge and saves the day, he is also very sweet about it, tries to comfort Dean as much as he can. We saw that in episodes “ Faith- Yellow Fever- Regarding Dean”. In episode Faith Dean had such a grumpy attitude but Sam just ignored it. And in yellow fever episode, there was a scene when he was trying to get Dean to breathe to calm his nerves. 🥺
He wont stand having his brother locked up in the panic room, and when Dean asked him why, he simply said you are my big brother.
In S6 E16 Sam doesn’t remember what Samual really did, but he took Dean side fully, and when Dean disappeared he threaten Samual if something happened to Dean.
S10 had many protective Sam moments but 2 moments stand out for me. One: how worried Sam was when he was curing DemonDean, even as a demon he really never ever wants to cause any inconvenience for Dean. Second: the scene in the picture, Sam wasnt on board with interrogating Metatron , yet he had Dean back, and even when Dean almost killed him and Cas wanted to take Metatron back, Sam said “ it wont happen again”
In S2 E3 when Dean told him u get a free punch, he refused. He never wants to hurt Dean or punches him back.
In S13 E5 even though Sam was grieving his mom. When he knew how upset Dean was, he put his own feelings aside to take care of Dean, from getting Dean a beer with breakfast to getting Dean his Favourite food and offering to go to a strip club with Dean. My heart 💓
He is happy to see Dean laughing even at his own expense, for example when Sam was sprayed with Clown stuff.
Sam always sees he is job is to take care of Dean emotionally, pushing him to talk, to open up, trying to calm him down.
Sometimes i couldnt help but appreciate Sam choices of words when he talks to Dean, like in the episode “ dream a little dream” S3. Dean hadnt slept in 2 days, looks like he is about to lose it. Sam asks Dean so politely if he wanted him to drive and he says “ You seem a little caffeinated” not ur tired, or u gone get us killed🥺 he is so careful to choosing words that don’t aggravate Dean. Didn’t work but still A for efforts. Also let’s appreciate how Sam insisted on going with Dean to find the monster.
Honestly there are many more moments, but these were my top Favorite 💓
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spn2006 · 4 months
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the fact that eric kripke isn't even christian really adds something to the way christianity is depicted on supernatural. because its really not about being christian at all, but about living in america, a country dominated by christianity, and having to decide for yourself how to handle that. faith is huge in supernatural, and the mythology of the show is very bible-centric, but notably, christ is never there. even sam, who starts out revering the angels, who once said he prays every night, doesn't actually call himself a christian or imply that he believes in jesus--the show is steeped in christianity and biblical lore and yet neither sam nor dean are christians. in fact, over and over again the church itself is depicted as a haunted house that sam and dean will only ever enter as strangers, as outsiders. priests, preachers, faith healers, chapels, crypts, etc. are all just iconography that create an intense sense of unease that sam and dean respond to instantly. as a jew, its very relatable. an essential part of living in america when you're not christian is that exact sense of unease, of knowing that the culture of your country has ensured that you'll get knocked over by christianity no matter where you go, that you'll see hundreds of people truly believing they're good people while doing awful things in the name of their god, and you have no choice but to confront that. kripke gets it
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destiel-wings · 7 months
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Dean Winchester & hug dynamic analysis
I was thinking about how whenever Dean hugs someone he's almost always the one hugging the other and how this links to his psychological trauma of always being the caretaker of people, making himself bigger to protect them.
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Because that's how Dean sees himself, as a shield for others, and then I thought about how Cas actually is the shield, and he's HIS SHIELD, specifically, the only one who's really there to protect HIM, which is why it hits so much when we see this:
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The way Cas wraps his arms around him, trying to protect him with his whole body--that he'd use as a shield and give up in a second if he could spare him from any pain and save him.
(for context: Dean was about to go use the soul bomb on Amara there, it was a suicide mission)
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Bobby is another one that hits, he hugs him as the big hugger because he's his father, he loves him and he's actually here to protect him (and Dean LETS him -barely, but he lets him *and Cas* - in a way that he doesn't let Sam)
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I watched a compilation of Sam & Dean hugs to check if i was right about it, but it's almost always Dean the big hugger with Sam, except when he's about to die or Sam sees him alive again after losing him.
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Even then, Dean mostly tries to hug Sam as the big hugger anyway, with at least one arm, like a way to comfort him, making him feel protected, like his body language is saying "I'm here, I'm okay, I'm still strong, i can still protect you" (because their real father failed and Dean thinks it's his job).
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He rarely lets himself be the little one hugged with Sam, unless he's barely conscious. Which is why it kills me so much more now that in this moment (s14, when Dean was going to lock himself in the Ma'lak box cause he was possessed by Michael) and Sam has a desperate breakdown and punches him (to stop him) he forcefully hugs him as the little hugger, the way Dean always kept him, like a way of saying "I still need you to protect me, please don't do this to yourself".
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In the scene below he gives Sam his blessing to do a dangerous (possibly suicidal) mission, and one of his arms is down, but the other one tries to stay up--he's forcing himself to do it and he struggles because he still wants to protect him, but (as the seasons progress) he slowly becomes more prone to let go.
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So in this view the hug dynamic becomes an indicator of how Dean sees Sam (and himself) and his protector role, how adult and self sufficient he considers Sam, and how much he lets people around him take care of him, lowering his walls and letting himself be hugged.
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This is also why i think hugs from characters like Garth or Charlie are so special, because they're just like us: they see Dean and they just know that he needs to be hugged a lot, and that he's not used to it, so they just go for it-- and it's so normal and kind and spontaneous that Dean's just not used to it-- he doesn't know how to respond (especially with Garth, at the beginning, but as the seasons progress, he learns to, and he even initiates the hug eventually).
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I love the hugs where they're 50/50 (one arm up, one arm down both), feels like they're equals, both taking care of each other. I feel like with Sam and Dean, this indicates a healthier dynamic, because Dean lets go a little of the role that was imposed to him and manages to see Sam as the strong individual that he is. But the same applies to 50/50 hugs with other characters, like with Cas, where I feel like it testifies how equals they feel in terms of being fighters, there's a show of respect of each other's strength that transpires by the gesture (which is even more astounding considering that Cas is literally a powerful angel).
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And just to end on a destiel note, I'd like to note the possessiveness and protectiveness of Dean (rightfully so) whenever he finds Cas after he thought he had lost him, and how that translates into his body/hug language:
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Ok so. "Why does this sound like a goodbye?" Was fucking heartbreaking, right; we have the full-on uninterrupted eye contact, the head tilt, Dean's already open mouth twitching before the scene cuts to Cas' "I love you," like he had more to say, but Cas beats him to the punch. It's great, we love that. But for the dialogue to be sequenced that way, and to have Dean reply with, "don't do this, Cas."
I'm only just realizing how fucking insane it was. And sure, I might just be coping here, at the end of the day who fucking knows, but look at it. Think about it. Now let yourself feel it all over again.
It's Dean's death knocking on the door behind Cas, and it's Cas' death emerging behind Dean. Like this, they're directly facing their own demise—but they're too stuck on each other, in their moment, to give a damn. And then Dean doesn't say, "I love you too." He says, "don't do this."
He isn't disgusted or ashamed or put off in the slightest by Cas' confession, because if he is then why is he on the verge of tears? In what world would it make sense for him to want to cry after his best friend confessed to him, if the confession was something he did not want. He says don't do this here, don't do this to me now.
Even if, and that's the most unlikely if to ever exist, Dean did not reciprocate Cas' feelings—don't do this is still so fucking powerful. Because Dean's connected the dots, happiness [...] is in just saying it, and Cas said it, so where does that lead Dean? That's right, with Cas dead again, trying to save him again.
Don't do this. Don't die for me, don't love me only to die for me, don't love me at all, just stay with me.
Don't let me watch you die again and not even let me follow you—because, at the very least, that was a consolation. She's gonna kill you, which Dean knows that Billie knows will hurt him more than his own death, and then she's gonna kill me.
"Don't do this," was actually so fucking powerful, I don't know how it slipped past me until now...
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creatorofarcadia · 1 month
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It's been a while since I watched Supernatural, so don't take my opinions as gospel or anything. But I think Dean is self-hating to the point of narcissism in some ways. Don't get me wrong, I empathise with Dean and understand why fans largely do too. But his self-loathing warps his perception and becomes the centre of EVERYTHING and at times that really has ripple effects on those around him - particularly Sam.
Take their childhood, Sam has a right to mourn the fact that he didn't get a normal childhood. He's allowed to be angry that he didn't get a home, a present father, a stable community, and consistent education. But whenever Sam attempts to express his complicated feelings about his childhood, Dean immediately interprets it as ' oh I was supposed to look out for you. Are you saying I failed? Are you confirming I'm worthless?' which grinds the conversation to a complete halt. Because of Dean's intense self-criticism, Sam can never really be 100% honest with him or ask for support with his own issues, especially regarding their childhood. As anything outside of 100% gratitude just becomes another stick for Dean to beat himself with, and the conversation is immediately derailed.
Not only does Deans self-hatred mean that Sam's expression of his own experiences are pretty consistently shut down. In some ways, I think Dean strips Sam of his autonomy - he's so self-loathing, he sees every decision Sam makes as being about/a reaction to him. A good example of this is Stanford. Rather than understanding Stanford for what it was, an attempt by Sam to carve out a better life from himself and escape hunting. Dean views it as betrayal or abandonment, some re-affirmation of his own belief that he's not worth caring about. Rather than understanding it's a rejection of hunting, he sees it as Sam rejecting him. To Dean, Sam isn't attempting to find a better life, he's punishing the family.
Overall, it's interesting that people largely and rightfully sympathise with Dean due to his self-hatred. However, I don't see as much discussion about how his self-hatred doesn't just hurt him, it hurts those he's close to, as it colours his interpretation of their every action. Dean's self-loathing is always the biggest thing in the room and that has consequences.
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ananke-xiii · 3 months
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So... I don't think I'm feeling well...
I was rewatching spn 4x16 "On The Head of a Pin" as one does and...
Alastair tried to kill Cas by impaling him on... a rebar!
It can't be real, this show is soooo cruel... I won't post nor mention a certain death that happens during 15x20 because in my universe it didn't happen...
But I am flabbergasted.
Also, are we supposed to make the correlation "angel on the head of a pin" with "angel impaled on a rebar"? 'Cause my mind just did and now I'm forever changed.
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xxc0reyxx · 30 days
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dean and cas have abandonment issues but they deal with them in such different ways.
dean is terrified of being unloveable and of people leaving him, so he pushes them away before they can leave. because in his head, everyone leaves in the end, so why bother let them get close? he’ll just end up heartbroken in the end because that’s all he’s know, from his own family, his friends, partners, allies. they either end up dead or gone.
cas, on the other hand, is terrified of being useless because he had been created as a tool, a weapon for others to use, and was treated as one his whole life. every time he thinks he isn’t useful anymore he leaves because why would anyone want a broken tool? people always end up leaving when he doesn’t have power, or they make him leave with little to no explanation.
dean needs someone to stay when he’s pushing them away, to be reassured that even when he is at his worst they still love him and want to be around him.
cas needs someone to tell him to stay when he’s no longer useful. if he is asked to leave he will, because he is never allowed to stay for long and sees so little of himself.
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soullessjack · 8 months
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another tally on the “things about jack that have been almost erased by the baby au” is how genuinely fucked up and weird and scary and violent and horrifying he is. the body horror of his existence is so. Palpable.
he looks human, but he still fundamentally is not human, and the thing that separates him from being human or belonging or being normal and loved and accepted without strings attached is his own bloodline. his own family, his own father. the blood that runs through his veins is the blood of the devil and he wasn’t fed it like Sam. the anger and rage and capacity for violence inside him isn’t an ancient curse like it was for Dean. It’s just who he is. It’s his neurology. Jack enters a guilt/grief-induced psychosis so bad he starts hallucinating his own dead evil father who proceeds to say “I’m in your head, your DNA,” and goes on about how Jack’s place with the only chosen family he ever cared for is that of their little pet monster who’s only kept around to kill things for them. And this is his subconscious, remember, these are all Jack’s own thoughts being given a hallucinatory voice.
When jack is first born he doesn’t even register that he’s not a full human. It’s not until he catches dean telling the sheriff that he’s a Nephil and gets stabbed all the way through his entire heart to the hilt of the angel blade and survives, that he realizes he’s Not Normal. Jack stabs himself 18 times with “grim determination,” dedicated to making a wound stay open in his body, but nothing happens. He doesn’t know what any of this is, but he knows it’s dangerous and he’s seen firsthand what he can do, because he sent the sheriff careening backwards into glass when he didn’t mean to do anything more than push her away. He tells Dean he will hurt someone again [whether he means to or not]. And he tells Sam, using his powers is like breathing; it’s a subconscious, physical, neurological part of his system that he cannot (currently) consciously control or stop.
He’s literally a living weapon. These powers of his that hurt people are akin to breathing. His violence and his evil is deep seated and runs through his heart and bleeds out of him. But he can’t bleed the evil out. He can’t escape what he was born into or what keeps him alive. He can’t even live without this nuclear power that ostensibly others him from everyone forever. He’s foaming at the mouth and seizing and fainting and bleeding and going into total systemic failure and subsequently dying as a human because he just isn’t human and he can’t live as one even if he wants to, even if that is a part of him it still isn’t the only part of him. The other half that makes him untrustworthy and violent and angry and dangerous and nuclear and evil and feared and hated is the one part he is left dying without.
His body dies a first time because it couldn’t live without its own hereditary disease, he died as a human and goes to human heaven and sees and rekindles with his human mother, the part of him that he wants to be and loves but can’t exist as. He’s brought back but now he’s a time bomb, a nuclear reactor internally melting down. he’s a weapon, but he’s alive because he was born as a weapon, and neither of these things were his choice.
and then a second time his body dies because he was only registered as a threat with no humanity. his eyes are burned out of his skull and instead of heaven with his mother, instead of humanity, he wakes up in the pitch black abyss where other nonhumans go when they die, then he’s brought back and he’s a weapon for the third time. He’s a living bomb, a collapsing black hole, and he has to eat human hearts ripped straight from the chest to keep his bomb body alive and ready for detonation, ready for collapse. He’s so far from human, further than he ever wanted to be, further enough to make his deep rooted fear a reality that he’s too suicidal to bother rebuking. Why rebuke the truth? The absolute truth that the devil, the evil of all things is in his blood and he is evil and he was a born weapon whose body exists to destroy and kill and not even his own love or will can stop it.
He is a gun that doesn’t want to be a gun and hates that his body is made to shoot and kill, but he has no choice in being anything else but a gun. He cannot ever be good, he was never good to begin with, he was just malfunctioning, glitching, experiencing an error and virus and flaw that he wishes was his entire programming. His eyes glow yellow like the corrupted Star Wars Sith and Rosemary’s Baby and a whole slew of evil things that are evil and meant to be rejected. When he gets angry, people stare at him as if he’s a cornered animal, because that’s what he is to them. To both sides of the equation, he is an animal. A foreign creature, a thing, he’s not human enough to be human and he’s not angelic enough to be an Angel. He’s some weird mixture that nobody can understand or accept. He’s unpredictable and violent and wild and born that way and only in his subsequent domestication, only in the extension of personhood and humanity can he be deemed worth loving. He’s like a dog, detrimentally loyal, old yeller going rabid while saving his family and having to be shot in an act of mercy. Barking and biting at people who might hurt his loved ones and killing them as an act of love. Sam wanted Nick to burn so Jack burns Nick and that’s why Jack says they would be grateful. He did what Sam wanted. Same for the other biblical killings. He’s the cat sinking its fangs into rodents and birds. Leaving the punctured corpses on the doormat as a gift, I did this for you because I love you, don’t you love me too?
I haven’t eaten well in the past two days does this click click anyone’s boom. Saliva
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author-alana · 3 months
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I'm so particular about Destiel fanfics because of how I see Dean. Especially the fix it fics.
As much as we all want them to fall into each other's arms.
I don't think Dean knows that he loves Cas. I don't think Dean quite knows what love is. The desperation that he feels when Cas is gone, well he's desperate when Sam is gone so it must be the same thing.
He knows Cas is his best friend, so when he loses Charlie, it can't be all that different, right?
He would never leave Sam behind, just like he would never leave Cas behind. Because they're family.
Dean has never known what love was. At the age of 4, all love was sucked out of his life. The only people he saw were his father (abusive and negligent) and his baby brother, whom he loved from the pov of a parent, not a sibling. And as he got older, his dad encouraged him to chase girls "for the fun." Never even hinting that Dean, in all of his wishes, could ever have a normal life. LEARN to love. Have things that he wants. He was to be a soldier, the grunt, and nothing more.
So Dean knows lust. And he knows familial love. But he never knew anything about how he loved Cas. Because when he thought of Cas, it was hardly ever just "I want to get in his pants." Dean honestly would have been able to get over that. No, with Cas, it was more. With Cas, he wanted that apple pie life. He wanted more of the days where they woke up and shared space, where Cas sat with him as he silently drank his coffee. Where Cas texted him throughout the day with an embarrassing amount of emojis and made him laugh with his lack of pop culture knowledge. The dynamic was love, but to him, friendship was so foreign he didn't know the difference.
So of COURSE Dean didn't respond when Cas confessed. His whole perspective on everything was altered the second Cas started speaking. When he said "I Love You." And Dean didn't have time to realize that THAT'S what he'd been feeling before Cas was ripped away from him forever. Years of it. Gone in an instant.
So he sat on the floor and he sobbed. And he ignored Sam. Because in all of this, he realized that for YEARS he'd had his shot at happiness in front of him, but couldn't see it, because he didn't know the words. He didn't know the difference. And he knows that this time, he'll never get that chance again.
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cupidswurld · 4 months
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thinking about supernaturals circular narrative. how i don’t (and won’t) watch sitcoms because of the conventions of a circular narrative.
the parallels of how characters are reduced into one-dimensional imitations of who the audience perceived them to be, boiled down into their most defining, dividing traits— a phenomenon exclusive to the intrinsic nature of sitcoms. thinking about how everything that is learnt in one episode, is forgotten in the next— how there is no progress, how there is no change and everything will always, always stay the same for the sake of the audience where nothings new.
part of why dean felt he wouldve been better off dead, about why he didnt deserve to be saved, was because he could never make any difference. how they were trapped by the same story, over and over again, that nothing mattered no matter what he did, because he'd just end up in the very same position he was 15 years ago. even before the insertion of chuck's storyline, before freewill, the pervasive hand of the writers have always held them down from the very first episode
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the-gayngel · 6 months
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8x17 dean breaking cas's brainwash connection to naomi blah blah blah let's talk about how in the following episode the following interaction happens:
sam: "yeah um cas dinged you up pretty good"
dean: "and?"
sam: "and i just wanted to make sure you're okay"
dean: "what, like my feelings?"
sam: "if that's what you want to talk about, sure"
dean: *proceeds to mock/avoid the question to get out of answering*
like the only reason they would write this in the show is because they knew they couldn't just pretend that whole scene from the previous episode never happened because it was so powerful, so they did what they do best: talk about it in a way that doesn't confirm or deny anything
i also feel like they so commonly would use dean's emotional unavailability as an out to not address things they very purposefully wrote into the show throughout its entire run, a lot of the time these instances revolving around his storylines with cas. it's so frustrating because they had so many opportunities to have amazing writing, and then they blew it off because they were too afraid to be "bold" by confirming dean and cas's connection
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rosedark88 · 20 hours
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Great things about Sam …
He handles tough situations well, especially when Dean in trouble, like the episode yellow fever from Season 4, Sam kept it together and tried to calm Dean as much as he can.
Unlike Dean he keeps his tempre in check, and never overreact for example the epsiodes,( the real ghostbusters-Fanfiction), we see Dean being pissed off, while Sam is so chill.He also understand Dean needs to be pissed off and he just let him.
he takes care of Dean emotionally, always pushing him to talk about stuff, and help him with tough situations.
He handles tragedy well. His father death, Bobby, even mom.. yes he wanted her back but he handled his grief well, he didn’t lash out at anyone or locked himself in room.
He is the moral compass out of the 2 brothers, while he could be a killing machine, he chooses to be moral.
He stood up to John, and didnt take his shit.
He tends to give people the benefit of the doubt.
He loves/ respects his big brother so much, and would do anything for him,also he is very gentle and sweet towards him, in fact its a sign of things been dark if he dose or say anything mean to Dean.
He is a great leader and a badass.
Sam is smart, educated, well spoken, respectful of women and everyone around him
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uh-ohspaghettio · 1 year
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I really love how similar both bobby and john’s backstory of how they got into hunting are, both were unaware of the existence of the supernatural until their wife’s tragic death pulled them in. I especially love it when comparing their treatment of Sam and Dean. We often see people, namely Dean, excuse john’s abusive behavior because of all John has suffered through when in reality Bobby went through the same thing and was more of a father to Sam and Dean than John ever was. It characterizes them even more when considering Bobby technically had no obligations to the boys and still did this while John basically ignored all his obligations as a father
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destiel-wings · 1 year
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dean cursing freely and constantly in the ghostfacers episode shows clearly how chuck is censoring him, that's literal proof that he can't say what he wants (and once he could, it didn't matter anymore)
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See, it's the cinematic choices like these that convince me destiel wasn't an accident or something added last minute, it had build up and it was sprinkled all over the narrative.
It's Dean grieving so much, in a way he never grieved for familial figures like Bobby or John—there is enough pain inside him that it shattered his belief that what he and Sam did was right, as hunters protecting the common folk. When, in times of multiple Armageddon-level crises and then some, that belief is what held him together. Because hey, we may have lost people (so, so, so many people) but at least it was for the greater good.
None of that, absolutely none of that, because this loss made him feel that the job wasn't worth it anymore. This was where he drew the line.
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It's Dean, literally gaining back that light in his life when Castiel called.
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And, at the end of the episode, there are slow, dramatic close-ups between Dean and Castiel. Because Sam's grief wasn't the same as Dean's, so Sam's relief at finally having Cas again is different from Dean's.
This moment belongs to them. To Dean, who's finally finding his faith again.
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creatorofarcadia · 26 days
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Literally replace hunting with any other risky profession and the idea Sam is selfish for not wanting to hunt kind of collapses. No one would ever suggest someone who doesn't want follow the family tradition of joining the military is selfish because hypothetically, them joining could result in someone not dying. It's absurd.
Season 1 John and Dean are really like, you don't want to die painfully in your 20s/30s after a life of constant fighting with no outside connections? Is this? The height of selfishness?
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