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How did the Victorians/Edwardians approach the matter of skirt lengths/hairstyles for slightly older teenage girls (around 14-15)? I’d assume they weren’t old enough to have their hair completely up with floor/almost floor length dresses, but they must have been too old for shorter dresses and looser hairstyles
This is a great question!
Once the whole "short skirts and loose hair for little girls" thing became common practice, around the 1830s-1840s (I believe), preteens and young teenagers often wore roughly calf-length dresses stylistically in between younger children's clothing and that of adult women. They were more likely to have long hair than very young girls- who sometimes wore theirs short, depending on the specific decade and its trends -and often styled it half-up or in braids. Or just left it loose, sometimes, but that might be less practical for playing or doing chores.
(Unknown adolescent girl, 1860s. Short sleeves for day were sometimes more readily permitted on young girls. Note that her skirt, while long, doesn't reach the floor as an adult's would. Her hair appears to be back in a net, a style of that decade that transcended age boundaries. See also: mention in Little Women of 15-year-old Jo bundling her hair in a net to keep it out of the way, even before she's started wearing "adult clothing.")
(1885 pattern for a "jersey dress for girl 9-15 years." Sometimes the transition from short skirts to long could be less gradual than the 1860s image would indicate, and a girl might simply wear calf-length dresses from early adolescence until age 16. Within any social norm, you'll get a lot of variation.)
Sometimes you also see charts like this one from various publications:
(Godey's Lady's Book, April 1866. The "2-16" indicates that this is the "proper" length for a toddler, who usually wore long gowns regardless of gender, as well as a girl in her mid-teens.)
However, as I mentioned above, you see a lot of variation from decade to decade, and even within those individual decades. Not everyone would have seen a chart like the one pictured, nor held it as gospel. The only real Rule, that I've been able to find, was Girls Under ~16 Wear Shorter Skirts And Looser (Or Shorter) Hair Than Adults. Beyond that, while you generally see teens in skirts below the knee at least, there was a great deal of individual interpretation.
Hope this answers your question!
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I haven't worn bras in about 7 years, am helping someone with calculating bra size, and realising that NOTHING has changed within the last decade when it comes to the absolute confusion that is bra sizes. getting flashbacks to my teenage years rn.
this is 4 separate sites..... literally the same measurements..... the results for European bra sizes being: 70I, 85D, 80D, 75G all at the same time. literally how??
the last one, I'd say the most useful one is brasizecalculator.eu. that table is actually incredibly helpful in visualising wtf those numbers and letters mean.
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tfw when the most gender essentialist motherfucker you know suddenly becomes the most egalitarian philosopher going "well you know girls can do X just as much as boys" the moment you start talking about why X makes you feel gender affirmed
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Watching women’s basketball trying not to salivate (failing)
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