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willnmike4l · 8 months
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still in my Will Byers slump 😍😍😍😍
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byler-alarmist · 7 months
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Sometimes, the fact that Nancy didn't make another female friend after Barb until S4 makes me kinda ow ouch owie
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stevesbipanic · 1 year
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The way Steve kept listing "bullshit" when he talks to Nancy after Halloween you can tell that the whole night that's all he heard in his head over and over how he and his love was bullshit.
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eliza-777 · 7 months
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It's officially fall... you know what that means....
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time to rewatch season 2!!!!
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nadia-zahra · 2 years
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Deep Dive on Mike and his Gay Feelings
So a lot of people speculate when exactly Mike realizes he has romantic feelings for Will, and I’m jumping onto the snowball train. Lemme explain:
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For the show’s pitch on the characters, Mike was insecure ab not having a girlfriend. From the start, the duffers wanted his character to struggle with not being heteronormative. All of the characters are type casted as being different in their own ways. But this let’s us know that Mike thinks having a gf is what’s going to make him normal. Lucas and Dustin didn’t have anything ab girlfriends in their description, so why Mike? Well, it implies that the duffers have always had the intentions of making him queer (ima gay mike truther personally), but I don’t think this means since s1 he knows he likes Will.
Season 1 shows us Mike and Will have a deeper connection compared to the rest of the party. Mike keeps a binder of his drawings, puts himself and the rest of the party in danger in order to find Will, trusts El solely because she says she can help find him, and was going to kill himself at the quarry because he had lost all hope in finding Will. I don’t think Mike starts developing romantic feelings for him in this season because tbf he’s 12 and it is really traumatic to have your bff of 5 year’s old disappear. But I will say that this behavior does show just how deeply he cares for Will and that his feelings definitely have some romantic undertones (again gonna mention the binder of Will’s pictures and drawings all over basement).
His relationship with El s1 also highlights how mike is queer. El is the only girl he’s ever became friends with that understands what it’s like to be an outsider. He’s in the mindset of normal=girlfriend, and since El is the only girl in his life he thinks they’re supposed to date. Even tho they are depicted as a blossoming romance, both Mike and El’s behavior isn’t romantic in the slightest. It more so reads as mike thinking him and El need to date because he’s a boy and she’s a girl, and El just going along with it because she doesn’t know better. The clearest piece of evidence that mike doesn’t have romantic feelings towards El is when discussing El living in the Wheeler house in 1x8. Mike says El would be like Nancy’s sister, but wouldn’t be Mike’s. This means that his feelings for her are platonic because he views Nancy and El as a sibling dynamic, but thinks the next step in their relationship is dating because of heteronormativity. If he didn’t view her platonically, he would’ve said El could become friends with Nancy or wouldn’t have mentioned Nancy at all.
Season 2 pre-snowball is when things pick up a bit more with byler because now we actually see how Mike and Will interact with each other. Will said Mike was the only one treating him the same. So before the ud, Mike was super affectionate and protective and was basically acting like a boyfriend? Cool, good to know. 2x2 specifically gives us the most insight into how they’re dynamic works. The whole Halloween episode let’s us know Mike thinks of Will and their friendship differently than the rest of the party’s. Him getting pissy with only Will for not talking to him ab max joining (even tho lucas or Dustin didn’t either), him immediately searching for Will after he’d left Will’s side for not even 3 minutes and then dragging Will back to his place to be alone, and, finally, the crazy together scene. Again, I don’t think the crazy together scene is when Mike realizes he has feelings for Will. This is when WE, the viewers, know Mike has feelings for him. That scene was the nail in the coffin in confirming these two clearly have romantic feelings. But for Mike, it was a turning point in their relationship. It confirms that they are their own individual team separate from the party. This scene probably had mike feeling all kinds of butterflies and just didn’t know why they were happening…yet 😏
His relationship with El s2, again, shows us that his feelings for her are platonic and also not has strong compared to Will’s. He doesn’t believe El is dead…but he also doesn’t search after her once, doesn’t bring up how he saw her out his window to the party (only to Will might I add), and, besides calling her everyday, Mike basically acts like she doesn’t exist. This is a complete contrast with Will’s disappearance!! This is the girl Mike supposedly has a crush on, the only girl he’s ever had a deep connection with—this behavior doesn’t add up with his character…unless he doesn’t feel as strongly towards El as he does Will. And the way Mike behaves versus how El behaves in their reunion is telling ab how they see each other too. It’s obvious that El feels romantically towards him now (she’s looking at him with heart eyes and is a little breathless), but he reads as platonic. Like if it had been Dustin or Lucas, he would’ve said and reacted the exact same way. He didn’t overreact (in my books at least) when finding out hop was hiding her either. Just really platonic and would’ve also started punching and screaming at hopper if it was anyone in that room.
THE SNOW BALL *duh duh DUHHHH*
I need to preface this beforehand: Mike didn’t think El was going to show up!! His reactions and responses of what’s to come are without El in mind.
Ok back to Mike realizing he like likes Will
When Dustin arrives late to the dance we see Lucas and Max together (presumably as dates) and Mike and Will…so he thought during the whole dance it was just going to be him, Will, and Dustin together once lumax started doing their own thing.
But then this random girl comes up and asked Will if he wants to dance and Mike pushes Will to say yes. Just noticed only Mike and Will turn to her when she comes up, Dustin doesn’t. this happens for two reasons 1) Dustin is heartbroken ab lumax so ofc he isn’t watching this happen 2) Mike isn’t heartbroken by lumax, and is also thinking “why tf is this girl coming up to Will?”. So when this random ass girl asks Will for a dance and Will looks at him for an answer, the only thing he thinks is to say yes because that’s what a good NORMAL friend would do.
Yet, even though he’s the one that told Will to say yes, he automatically starts sulking. He looks just like Dustin: heartbroken from jealousy.
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but this is his face when he realizes what his jealousy is from:
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YEAH THIS IS THE MOMENT HE REALIZES HE LIKES WILL
Sitting there, just processing his feelings, Mike realizes that his jealous insecurity of someday being replaced by Will’s future girlfriend is because Mike doesn’t want him have one and, instead, wants Will to be with him.
His face gives it all away!! He looks in shock. Eyes wide, mouth opened, and staring at nothing because he’s so deep in thought. He looks completely dumbfounded, like “I like like Will holy shit” is on repeat while he thinks about every interaction they’ve ever had. And this shocked face was intentional!! They stay on him with this face for almost 10 seconds before El walks in. This wasn’t just a quick cut to him looking bored (which is what it looks like if your just casually watching). They wouldn’t have stayed on him for so long if we weren’t supposed to notice his facial expression!
You might be thinking, why now? How does this girl coming up to Will and making Mike jealous get him to this realization? After all, he was super jealous when he thought Will liked Max, so why not back at the crazy together scene?
Heres the difference between him getting jealous over Max and Will versus the rando and Will: he saw unrequited feelings between Will and Max (she didn’t like him back), but not with Will and the rando (he says yes). Plus the crazy together scene leads Mike to believe their bond is stronger than anything else, but Will leaving him for a girl makes him realize it isn’t.
And this realization doesn’t help him mentally— it just feeds into his “I’m not normal” insecurity. Not to mention he thinks Will doesn’t love him back or even could. So guess who walks in and is able to save him from his gay crisis…
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YUPPPP THE ONE AND ONLY EL
Even the mileven kiss proves mike knows he likes Will. Mike wasn’t originally supposed to kiss her— he duffers didn’t even want it, Millie did. She literally asked for it because she thought that shippers would be pissed (she’s the shipper) if it didn’t happen. The duffers don’t give a fuck ab what shippers want! Never have! And even tho it was her begging for it, I don’t think they would allow a 13 year old to make major decisions like this without it working with their vision. However…it does. They realized the kiss actually strengthens Mike pushing away Will, so that’s why they lit the green light on that impromptu kiss. The kiss is just Mike belly flopping head first into his new (fake) personality.
Mike begins his “I don’t like like Will, I’m normal 😃” phase that continues through s3 and s4. Except that phase takes a turn after he realizes he’s in love with Will in the season 3 finale, but that’s for another byler essay.
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itswhatyougive · 7 months
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Look, if the Duffers don't want me to think about Steve bottoming, they have GOT to stop getting shots of him with his legs up and ass in the air
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will80sbyers · 2 years
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what's the point of living if William Byers doesn't have THE protagonist role in the stranger things finale?????????
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cosmicbrowniefan · 2 years
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I SAW YOU ON THE SWINGS AND YOU WERE ALONE TOO </3
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“But you make her feel like she’s not a mistake at all — like she’s better for being different. And that gives her the courage to fight on.”
All I can think about is this scene from season two:
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willnmike4l · 7 months
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can you tell s2 is my fav 😀
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byler-alarmist · 15 days
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Did El ever tell anyone about Kali? I forget, since it's been a while and I'm due for a S2 rewatch.
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grain-strengths · 10 months
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Has anyone else thought about how the mindflayer was captured on video?? Like that scene of Joyce rewatching the footage from Halloween night and discovering the mindflayer in the corner of the screen????
I neeeeed to know more about the upside down and if video can somehow pick up footage of large creatures like that’s insanee
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erin-bo-berin · 11 months
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I’ve seen Stranger Things a million times and I’m just now realizing that Steve was also at Barb’s funeral? My heart 🥺
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michaeljetski · 9 months
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took a lap around the house to emotionally prepare for the will possession scenes
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schibi12 · 11 months
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Currently rewatching Stranger Things about to finish the second season and for me personally also spoilers i guess, is that Bob's death is the saddest one and the one that shouldn't have died.
Like yeah Barb's death was sad and just wrong place wrong time and the situation she was in with Nancy was really relatable but nonetheless her death scene is still scary and messed up
But Bob was such a genuine nice and decent guy (apparently people distrust him because he was too good and thought he was a spy which says something of our society) cause he wasnt defined by his relationship to Joyce he tried to be a good paternal figure to Will and respected Jonathan's boundaries and didnt try to force a relationship with him, he was such a goofy nerd and really brave how he told Hopper that if he doesnt respond don't come back for him like aaaah he was such a great guy and he would have been a great addition to the group of adults and if the Duffers really wanted him to die like make his death the sacrifice of Season 3 instead of Hopper and he actually dies and not a fake out death (which i have a lot issues with, we will get their once i finished rewatching season 3) and that is the catalyst for Joyce moving with the kids.
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will80sbyers · 2 years
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little Lucas and Max having that beautiful conversation where Max talks about her parents divorce and Lucas is so attentive and the soft music plays in the background 💕
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