#stalka

[lisasmind]

SORRY IF IM LIKE LATE TO THIS BUT NOOOO i never realized he was actually tearing up 😖

#httyd 2 #hiccup #valka #stoick #stalka #httyd #httyd 3 #httyd thw

[dragonnnfly]

Just remember that, to Hiccup, there was no actual music during Stalka’s dancing and the dreaming scene, just their voices and their footsteps as they danced and I honestly think that’s even more pure. Watching his parents’ unfiltered love towards each other

#httyd #how to train your dragon #hiccup #Httyd 2 #stalka #commentary #text post #stoick the vast #Stoick #Valka #found this buried in my drafts

[howtodrawyourdragon]

The Post In Which I Deduce How Old Baby Hiccup Was When Valka Disappeared

You know, in order to write this Httyd Retelling, I have to do some preparing. I have to collect plot points for future storylines, keep certain canonical facts in mind and take a closer look at certain scenes.

Like the flashback scene in which Valka gets taken, for example. Because that'll be a vital scene for the prequel-type fic that I'm currently working on.

And I don't think I've ever realized how truly young Hiccup was when his mother was stolen from him. And I'm not talking about how he was a baby, because that fact is obvious.

I'm talking about how it's possible he was barely 6 months old.

And there are a couple of things about the flashback that point to this.

When Cloudjumper finds Hiccup and appears to play with him, I notice that Hiccup is:

Laughing

Grabbing Cloudjumper's wing talon

Clapping once (which could be a fluke as he is waving his hands around wildly)

Appears stimulated by Cloudjumper's attention and actively seeks interaction

Now, the laughter I won't waste much time on because I don't really see it as an indicator. On average, it starts as early as 4 months, but in my experience that highly depends on the child. I've seen a 3 month old laugh, I've seen kids not start laughing until they were almost 1.

Points 2 through 4, though, are much more interesting as what Hiccup is exhibiting is actually not "true" play, but rather hints that Hiccup is still actively learning to interact with the world around him. This may seem strange for people who don't interact with babies and toddlers on a daily basis, but children actually have to learn to play and this starts by interacting with the world around them.

Putting a variety of things in their mouths, sucking on things, grabbing things (like Cloudjumper's talon), shaking things, etc. This is usually how a baby between ages of 4 to 6 months old begins to learn how to play.

You can try to offer toys to a 3 month old, but chances are they won't do anything with it or even react much too the toy at all. Older than 6 months old, it's possible you can see them actively pick what interests them to inspect rather than simply put whatever they've been giving in their mouths.

In my personal experience, it's not until around 4 months old when babies start to show interest in the things around them. (Which doesn't mean you shouldn't try to stimulate your child by at least offering a toy before that time, we do.)

Something else of note in this scene is:

Hiccup can't sit up

No teeth

Hiccup simply lying there swaddled in a cradle is actually a big indicator that, not only is he not sitting up yet, but he doesn't appear capable of rolling over.

And if you think "Oh! but that's because he's swaddled in furs!" Wrong! Babies of any age are surprisingly determined. If a baby wants to roll over, they will fidget their way out of the swaddle and roll over. In no good conscience would Valka or Stoick leave Hiccup in a cradle unattended if this child showed signs of rolling over.

Now babies can start rolling over as soon as 4 months. (If you know what that looks like, it's quite an endeavor, takes a lot of manuevering, which the previous unattended Hiccup didn't appear to be doing)

And I know you may be thinking; "doesn't that mean Hiccup is younger than 4 months in the flashback?" I don't think so simply because of how he reacts to Cloudjumper, whose attention and stimulation he actively seeks out. Rather, I actually think Hiccup is a little bit of a late bloomer physically.

He was canonically born prematuraly, to the point that his mother feared he wouldn't make it. And often when a child is a late bloomer physically, they actually usually end up ahead of the other kids in other areas. Like mentally, verbally, or with their finer motor skills.

In my experience, children who can walk by the time their first birthday comes along, take longer to even begin to start talking. (which takes the form of making sounds. Not forming words, but voluntarily making sounds)

Meanwhile kids who are barely crawling by their first birthday are usually already showing signs of forming words (usually done by trying to repeat sounds they hear others in their life say) and verbally responding back to the people in their life (though through sounds and not actual words)

Being late in his gross motor skills while actually excelling in his finer motor skills and speech seems in line with the Hiccup we know and love. Even between the ages of 15 and 18, he still appears to be a bit of a late bloomer. The example I'm thinking of is how he can work years in a forge, yet struggle to pick up a single weapon versus to 3 years later when he's a swordsman himself and picks weapons up with no problem now.

That brings me to the lack of teeth.

On average, babies will begin to teeth between the 4 and 7 months old. From my personal experience, it tends to start much closer to 7 months than the minimum 4 month mark. I've even looked after plenty of children who didn't start to teeth well beyond the 7th month mark. (even had one who didn't start teeth until they were almost 1 and then suddenly got multiple teeth in at once.) Hiccup has no teeth.

So lets line all of the evidence up.

In the flashback, Hiccup:

Actively seeks interaction with Cloudjumper

Actively interacts with the world around him, but doesn't know play yet.

Responds positively to Cloudjumper's stimulation

Doesn't yet appear to even try to roll over

Has no teeth

And all of these points point to the very likely scenario that Hiccup was only 4 to 5 months old when he and Stoick lost Valka.

4 to 5 months old.

That's hella young to be losing your mother, a terrible time to lose your wife and mother of your very young child and, honestly, a terrible time for a mother to have her abduction be preceded by watching her premature son and her husband almost die due to her lack of actions.

I realize that I'm ending this post with a hot take, maybe even an unpopular opinion, but as it already takes months for a parent who gave birth to feel somewhat normal again even without breastfeeding their child... No wonder Valka, in this highly sensitive and vulnerable time, internalized that both Stoick and Hiccup would've been better off without her.

Valka, who:

Was still on month 4 after her pregnancy, meaning her hormones would've still been all over the place

Had to breastfeed with a lack of better options at the time, meaning it would remain that way for quite a bit

Had a traumatic labor that involved nearly losing her son

Her son who was born much too early, which would come with complications (right down to getting him to eat at all, for example)

Almost watched Hiccup and Stoick die in a fire right before she got abducted by a dragon, which would've meant hours if not days or weeks of believing she was going to get eaten

Doesn't mean she just gets to stay away for 20 whole years, but it definitely puts a different perspective on her sudden departure from Hiccup's life.

Everyone in the Haddock family was hurt that day. Though, the biggest victim of all was that literal 4 month old boy.

Video from SoloMinike-Movies & Shows scenes HD for reference.

#source: 5 and a half years of daycare work ages 0 months to 2 and a half years and 8 children max from monday to friday from 7 am to 5:30 pm #still working in that daycare rn btw #httyd movies #httyd 2 #how to train your dragon 2 #hiccup haddock #stoick the vast #valka #the haddocks #stalka #long post

[jomarchswritingjacket]

why are these couples so each other coded

#Okay but Virginia kull and Toby Stephens could easily be live action Stoick and Valka too #They won’t be but I’m just saying #pjo #percy jackson #percy jackson and the olympians #sally jackson #poseidon #httyd #httyd 2 #stoick the vast #valka haddock #posally #Stalka

[hiccupbutpurple]

5 times Hiccup asked Valka to Dance - Outline

1) She and Hiccup are flying together with their dragons. It’s calm at first but Hiccup and Toothless speed it up, twisting and flying in circles around the other two. They laugh and copy the younger two’s movements. It’s not quite a normal dance, but it’s a dance to them.

2) While a bit tipsy on Snoggletog, Hiccup sees his mother sitting down and runs up, holding out his hand as an invitation. They dance and spin around and all that fun stuff and before long all the riders plus Cloudjumper and Toothless have joined in with Valka in the middle of them all. They all take turns twirling her around or having her twirl them.

3) The two of them are sitting inside, at night. They have had a heavy talk, probably about Stoick (or maybe their shared experience in wanting to run away or something similar - some shared experience/feeling). It’s a comfortable silence but both are restless, so Hiccup stands up and asks her to teach him the Dancing and the Dreaming dance.

4) Valka is sitting down while Hiccup and Astrid are making dinner. Soon the two of them start swaying and a full dance begins. Valka is happy watching them even if it’s bittersweet. She closes her eyes for a minute and opens them to find two hands (one belonging to Hiccup and the other Astrid) extended towards her.

5) She goes to visit her son and his family, opening the door to find Hiccup with Nuffink on his shoulders and Zephyr standing on his toes. They’re jumping around, singing some random sea shanty Gobber taught them all and the kids insisted Hiccup sing it with them every day, and it’s a very silly sight but so endearing. Zephyr is the first to notice and excitedly greets her and explains what’s going on. Hiccup smiles and asks her if she knows the song (she does) and after some joke about how the kids won’t forgive her if she doesn’t join, she takes Nuffink and they all jump around together.

(Bonus: a battle takes place with some new tribe and while defending her family, Valka (who shouldn’t really be fighting given her age but when has that ever stopped anyone) falls. In Valhalla she’s welcomed by Stoick and maybe Gobber died in the battle too. She is the one to say something along the lines of ‘you’re as handsome as the day I lost you’ to which he laughs and agree’s that she’s beautiful too. As per reunion tradition, they sing and sway to For the Dancing and the Dreaming)

#valka haddock #hiccup haddock #hiccup horrendous haddock lll #stoick the vast #zephyr haddock #nuffink haddock #astrid hofferson #hiccstrid #Stalka #fic idea #fic ideas #httyd

[andreacelestemoreno]

The Haddock men kissing and showing love to their girls.

like father like son

#dreamworks #dreamworks animations #dreamworks animation #dreamworks dragons #how to train your dragon #how to train a your dragon #how to train a your dragon 2 #hiccup httyd #astrid httyd #httyd astrid #httyd 2 #httyd #hiccup x astrid #hiccstrid #stalka #stoick the vast #hiccup haddock #astrid hofferson #httyd stoick #stoick haddock #valka haddock #valka

[sea-owl]

I need to get me a partner like the Haddock men.

Stoick the Vast, that man, that chief of vikings, sees his wife and mother of his child after 20 years of separation. He finds out that she isn't dead like he believed, eaten by a dragon, she has been living and rescuing dragons. Who keep in mind was his enemy and the bane of his existence until 5 years before this moment when their son changed his mind.

Stoick has been kinda through it too. He has been leading a village, raising Hiccup on his own, and lets be honest Hiccup was definitely not an easy kid to raise, and combating the constant dragon raids on their home. All the while he has mourned the loss of his wife who should have been one of, if not his biggest, supports.

Realistically Stoick should have remarried if nothing more than an agreed marriage of convenience, but no he's loyal to the memory of his wife. He even has part of her armor made into a helmet to keep her close.

And after 20 years, after tracking down his wayward son, she's standing before him. Stoick is stunned, because it's a memory come back to life.

Valka is the one shouting begging and fully expecting Stoick to be angry, and to a degree he has a right to be. If this was five years earlier, back when Stoick confronted Hiccup after the disaster with the Monstrous Nightmare he probably would have shouted, probably would have let his anger take over.

But it's been five years since that fight with Hiccup. Stoick has learned, has grown, he has ridden and trained two of his own dragons. He has done what Valka thought he never could.

And you know what the first thing Stoick says to her after 20 years? "You're as beautiful as the day I lost you."

Oh gods Hiccup got his romantic nature from Stoick!

Now onto the younger Haddock.

Hiccup and Astrid are a better version of Stoick and Valka because they leaned to do the one thing that separated the older Haddock couple.

They learned to communicate.

Now this wasn't an easy road as we've been shown to us throughout the series. They have kept secrets from one another that has blown up in their faces. Hell their first lesson in communicating happened because Hiccup kidnapped Astrid.

But they are so much better for learning this lesson early. They are each other's biggest supports, if one is down to do some shit the other ain't that far behind. They don't hold each other back, if one fails the other one is right there by their side.

Their love is a nartual thing that is as easy and hard as breathing.

It's all so beautiful! The Haddock men are such romantics!

#stalka #hiccstrid #stoick haddock #stoick the vast #valka haddock #hiccup haddock #astrid hofferson #the haddock men love their wives #httyd #how to train your dragon #they're in love your honor

[baisleyarts]

Thank you very much! As for Stoick, I've decided long ago that he's not a dragonwalker, just a plain old viking with a loving dragon wife. He left his dragon killing life behind after finding out the love of his life was a dragonwalker and had begun building a life for themself in some nowhere island far from the village when Grimmel caught wind of a nightfury sighting on their island. He had died defending his wife and newborn son. His sacrifice was not in vain as Valka and Hiccup fled and survived.

#art #anon #reply #httyd #rtte #how to train your dragon #stalka #dragonwalker au #stoick #valka

[queen-of-hobgobblers]

Listening to a cover of Stoick's Ship and trying failing not to go feral over it

#hiccup blames himself for his father's death #toothless probably blamed himself for stoick's death once he came to his senses #valka reunited with him for five minutes before losing him again. this time permanently #astrid lost the man who would talk endlessly about how proud of her he was #gobber lost his best friend #berk lost a great man. a leader. a friend #hiccup's monologue always gets me #especially the tone change in the music #stoick the vast #hiccup haddock #toothless #valka haddock #astrid hofferson #gobber the belch #stalka #httyd

[limesandcoconuts]

As requested

The full cover of Dancin' and the Dreamin' by yours truly

#my room looks like shit #enjoy #httyd #how to train your dragon #httyd 2 #stalka #john powell #piano

[dragonsinboston]

now thinking about how being with valka brought out a gentleness in stoick we had really never seen before and that is just. so important to me

#dragonsinboston deliberations #dragonsinboston #httyd2 #valka #stoick #stalka

[lisasmind]

can you imagine if astrid never stopped hiccup and he ran away and met up with valka and then they became a mother-son dragon riding duo then in the sequel stoick comes across them? just a 3 am thought im having hehe

#httyd #httyd2 #thehiddenworld #hiccup #astrid #valka #stoick #stalka #hiccstrid #toothless

[dragonnnfly]

Httyd + AO3

#I am making these like my life depends on it #httyd #how to train your dragon #rtte #race to the edge #httyd 2 #Dagur #hiccup #Astrid #Snotlout #ruffnut #Tuffnut #stalka #stoick the vast #Valka #memes #edit #Httyd + text posts

[howtodrawyourdragon]

Before We Train A Dragon

Chapter 1 - Happy Birthday

Summary: Part 1 of a Httyd Retelling

Before he trained a dragon, before he got shot down by a peculiar boy, Hiccup and Toothless were simply children trying their best to grow up in a hard world. They had no idea that their lives were tied together from the moment they were born.

Rating: General

Warnings: Birth

Words: 2 988

Fandom: How to Train Your Dragon

Characters: Hiccup, Toothless, Stoick, Valka, Gothi, Original characters (Alfhild, Toothless' family)

Pairing: Stalka

Author's Notes: Been working on this retelling for months now with occasional updates over on Tumblr. Placed a poll there, which helped me decide on starting this fic before actually tackling the first movie.

WILL contain headcanons. :)

Decided to post it today for Hiccup's birthday.

Constructive criticism is appreciated.

Enjoy!

#httyd fics #httyd movies #httyd #how to train your dragon #headcanons #trans headcanon #hiccup haddock #toothless #hicctooth #stoick the vast #valka #stalka #the haddocks #gothi #alfhild #httyd ocs #ocs #berk #berkians #hairy hooligans #toothless' family #toothless' mother #toothless' father #toothless' siblings #dragon ocs #my fanfics #before we train a dragon

[seas-storyarchive]

Au where Stoic was taken by dragons. Over those 20 years he starts to see Valka was right. And Valka had, given what she had gone through on Berk after Stoic was taken, in her mind come to see that Stoic was right.

One saw everything they knew about dragons as wrong, and wanted to learn. The other saw that the first was right, and dragons needed to be put down.

How will the events of the rest of the franchise play out? Who's to say.

#how to train your dragon #how to train your dragon au #valka #stoic #stalka

[oseytorvan]

Friend: Seriously? They killed such a beautiful character as Stoick to replace him with such an insignificant character as Valka?

I: ...

I: You do understand that Stoick would kick your ass for such words?.. 

#Stoick the Vast #httyd valka #stalka