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legobiwan · 1 year

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So if Anakin and Palpatine are a mirror to Obi-wan and Dooku, does that mean that Anakin slaughtering the separatist leaders on Mustafar, in the mirror, would look like Obi-wan slaughtering members of the Senate to weed out the corruption or... Honestly in general I have rarely seen a Sith-Obi-wan au that actually explores what happens once Palpatine is over and dealt with if he's also pared with the Count. How does the hierarchy look, do the Jedi still die? Anakin??? This is a pit I'm never getting out of sorry but I'm making it your problem Lego.

Ha! Your last sentence made me CACKLE, anon.

But it's a very interesting question.

Personally, I would break down this scenario as follows:

Motivations

First off, we need to remember why Dooku and a hypothetical Obi-wan would turn to the Dark Side.

Dooku turns due to the so-called hypocrisy of the Jedi and the corruption in the Senate, which go hand in hand. The Jedi are hamstrung, unable to officially involve themselves in local politics (injustices) on a more granular level, and Dooku sees the Council as an ineffectual body content to be the lapdog to an indulged and self-satisfied governing body. Whether Dooku is more attached to principle than people is a question that I don't have a great answer to (my instinct says principle), but in the end, I can safely conjecture that, broadly speaking, one of his main motivations for turning is to save the Republic at the cost of the Jedi.

Now, Obi-wan is a whole other story. I have little doubt that his ultimate loyalties lie with the Jedi. (I mean, we really only need to look at his life post-Mustafar life to confirm this. He doubts, he strays, but ultimately, he always returns, for better or worse, to his core Jedi principles). I've always said that Obi-wan would go Sith if it would be in service for the greater good, if the loss of one soul could outweigh the destruction of many others. Obi-wan's not stupid, he sees the hypocrisy, the ideological corner the Order has backed into, but he can't quite shake the tenets he's been brought up with. His motivation, as much as Dooku's, is attachment - to the Order, to Qui-gon, and to Anakin. He'll turn, not to save the Republic, but to save the Jedi, even if it's ultimately from himself.

So where does that leave us in a post-Palpatine, post-Jedi galaxy?

Again, I think this really depends on not only what direction events took, but how they got there.

Now, in my mind, the downfall of the Jedi, one way or another, is a fixed point in the timeline. Even if Palpatine had been killed, if Dooku had also been killed or otherwise neutralized, I can't see the Order recovering from the public shellacking it took during the war. There's just too much animosity built up at this point, too much fake news flying around, too much to gain from using the Jedi as a convenient scapegoat for everything that has gone wrong over the past two to three years (justified or not). So the question becomes one of a post-Order 66 society or one where the Jedi either splinter into an unaffiliated religious body or are politically expelled from the day-to-day workings of whatever is left of the Republic.

Mechanisms By Which a Post-War Society is Achieved

Order 66

As I've also written about before, Dooku is 100% culpable in the genocide of the Jedi. He's literally the mechanism by which the Order met its downfall - the implanted chips in the clones. In a timeline where Order 66 goes down, Palpatine is killed, and Obi-wan turns, I can see two outcomes.

Outcome 1

Obi-wan finds out Dooku was responsible for Order 66. So, the whole reason I get into motivations for turning is actually due to this idea. Obi-wan, even as a Sith, I doubt would want to destroy the Jedi. His whole motivation, after all, is to save them (unlike Dooku, who cared more about government and principle than the Order to which he belonged). While Dooku, I imagine, would be relatively transparent with a newly Sith Obi-wan, this is the one point I could see him obfuscating. And a newly Sith Obi-wan, an Obi-wan who is unstable, who values his attachments to the Order...well, let's just say that if finds out the man who shepherded him to the Dark Side was, in part, responsible for annihilating those said attachments...

All hell would break loose. I could see Obi-wan murdering Dooku in a fit of rage, the new Republic crumbling due to instability, and a whole host of factions rising to lay claim to the scraps of the Senate and the CIS. Obi-wan himself might go on a Sith, anti-Sith killing spree, putting down any nascent Sith cults (which I still wager would have been such a better way of approaching the whole Kylo Ren thing in the Sequels, but that's a whole other post altogether), before essentially self-immolating, leaving the Galaxy in chaos.

Outcome 2

Obi-wan never learns about Dooku's involvement in Order 66. I think this would be an Obi-wan at his most unhinged, surrounded by the death and destruction of those he loved, mired in the Dark Side and wholly malleable to Dooku's goals. This Obi-wan would be the closest to Anakin in his Vader stage - an enforcer, someone desperate for an outlet for their rage and fear, someone who could be swayed to believe the Jedi brought their destruction upon themselves. This would probably also be the closest timeline to what we get in the OT, which the exception of the fact that I don't personally believe Dooku would head up a wholly totalitarian, galaxy-wide government. Which is not to say one wouldn't emerge on its own, because there were certainly enough hawks and hardliners in the Republic military for that to come to fruition, Supreme Leader or not. But I do think the organization would be different, that the Rebellion would be different, as well, although likely with similar outcomes. The question, of course, is whether Anakin, Luke, and/or Leia survive any of this and what their role might be in taking down the Sith regime.

Order 66 Never Happens

And then we have a scenario or two in which Order 66 never goes down, where Palpatine is taken out of-screen and the Jedi, as mentioned above, meet their downfall through mechanisms other than mass murder. I personally think that without Order 66, without Palpatine, and with Dooku not having the will to impose a totalitarian government, the galaxy would ultimately shatter into a handful of different factions, as the bloated and corrupt Senate would likely lose their grip on those systems already on the brink of pulling out of the Republic. This is also a scenario where I could see the Jedi eventually fracture between a more conservative and more liberal understanding of their beliefs. (Note, the Jedi likely would still be persecuted in this timeline, but they wouldn't be dead).

Now, do Dooku and Obi-wan attempt to start their own Order? One that eventually comes into conflict with the more originalist practitioners of the Force? Do they decide to abandon government, seeking out greater threats in Unknown Space until they are recalled to battle a new Sith cult, are forced (ha, there's a pun) to join some of the older Jedi to combat this evil. Does Obi-wan just...leave at this point? The Jedi are, if not safe, at least in less danger and knowing there is nothing he can personally do for the Republic, does he go on a quest to reunite with Anakin, or a spiritual journey to reclaim what he lost during his time with Dooku? Does he drag Dooku along on this journey, knowing the other man has some scintilla of good left in him, long nights turning to intense, barbed political and philosophical debate?

I don't know if this is the answer you're looking for, anon. Sith!Obi-wan is an interesting plot device, as you have to wonder what to do with him if Dooku had actually achieved his aims - and that gets complicated with Obi-wan's motivations and backstory. Personally, I think the last option leaves the most room for interesting interpretations, for more adventures, for a broader definition of what it means to be Jedi, to define what the line between Light and Dark truly is, but you know, I'm the kind of lego who gets into the more philosophical realm of things, so...caveat emptor, as it were ;)

#hello there #ask legobiwan #broke: obi wan is mad and kills people #woke: obi wan and dooku fuck off to the unknown regions and help thrawn fight the gryssk #obi wan kenobi #count dooku #star wars nonsense #I LIVE #yes i still post star wars #ha!#happy new year people

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thunderousnipples · 1 year

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do you guys think there's like a lot of clone children running around the star wars universe? Like Boba is still out there so like probably some of the descendants of deserters exist somewhere.

It just seems funny cause you got Jango's genetics funkin all over the galaxy like a star wars version of Genghis Khan except Jango never fucked anyone

#star wars nonsense #I was binging the bad batch earlier and I was thinking about this #??? idk

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archfey-edda · 3 months

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Sometimes you spend 2h on a discord voice chat trying to figure out fictional cursive.

#star wars #the mandolarian #I just wanted to share my nonsense #not art #don't worry #the art will be back soon

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buckypascal · 1 year

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Tag yourself. I'm the Mythosaur hiding at the bottom of waters thinking, "Ain't nobody gonna find me down here", and then this idiot Mandalorian just falls ass first into your home while he's taking a bath.

#hes just like. i didnt sign up for this nonsense????#the mandalorian #the mandalorian spoilers #din djarin #pedro pascal #star wars #mythosaur

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spacingstars · 26 days

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Sometimes, I find myself breaking down Kix’s character, turning over his traits, his patterns and behaviors… and more and more I find the personality construed by fandom for Kix to be so wildly jarring from what we do have of Kix.

Kix has, roughly, 17 minutes of screen time across the entirety of TCW, which, when compared to the likes of Fives and Rex, who clock much more screen time than most other clones, this doesn’t seem like a lot—but when you factor in most clones' screen time, we get a lot of Kix, and there’s a lot you can learn about him if you pay attention to the moments he does have on screen.

And to illustrate my point, and because I genuinely love Kix, I’m taking it upon myself to examine what we do have of Kix—both for my own purposes, creatively, and because I also happen to enjoy being neurotically intense about my favorite characters.

From “The Deserter” (S02:10) which is also Kix’s debut episode:

1. Kix speaks with a softer and gentler affliction in his voice compared to other clones (as seen with Jesse, who debuts alongside Kix and contrasts him in being more assertive.) I generally extrapolate this to be reflective of a softness that underscores Kix’s mannerisms. 2. When confronted by Suu, Kix doesn’t react with aggression of defensiveness (even if he’s also escorting an injured Rex and has a rifle pointed at him,) instead he opts to gently, and slowly, explain the situation, (in fact, Suu cuts him off and it is Jesse who has to explain, Jesse, who speaks quickly and in a more assertive manner than Kix did.) Kix’s tone is also likely influenced by caution. 3. The most notable scene in this episode that Kix appears in is when he’s tending to an injured Rex—I say notable because I think it informs much of how Kix treats his patients, even when they’re being uncooperative. Because in this scene, Kix is nothing but gentle an caring towards Rex, even when Rex tries to order Kix into letting him back into the fight despite the nerve damage he’s taken from the shot to his chest. When he pulls rank on Rex it is done so firmly, but kindly, and his face is one of sheepishness. If this scene shows anything, it’s that Kix is patient.

From Kix’s debut episode, what can be described about his character is that he’s much more reserved and gentle in comparison to the much more assertive personality of Jesse—from his mannerisms to the tone of his voice. He will be firm, but he is not unkind. He also shows patience towards his patient, even when said patient is, initially, being uncooperative.

From Umbara (S04:07 - S04:10) which is when Kix gets the most screen time:

1. The first moment of note Kix appears in is when he raises concerns to Rex about the pace Krell has had them marching at, that this pace is taking its toll on the men and they need to rest. Kix raises these concerns respectfully, secondly, Kix is doing his duty as a medic, which, is fundamental to his character, finally, Kix cares about those around him and he does what he can to ensure the welfare of these men. (And also, I think it’s quite telling that Kix doesn’t press the issue after Krell scolds them for it, as noted before, Kix does not have an assertive personality.) 2. When Kix is taking care of an injured clone he’s dragged into cover Kix retains his professionalism and keeps himself together even under stress. Kix comforts his patient instead, and I think it speaks of that gentleness I keep mentioning that Kix says, “You’re gonna be okay, buddy, this’ll ease the pain.” Kix is comforting, and he holds himself together under stress because he has his brothers to take care of. 3. I think it’s also notable that when Torrent is starting to express their distrust in Krell, though you can tell Kix is beginning to get frustrated with the treatment of the men (expressing that with Krell’s plan, casualties will be high,) his comments are not nearly has harsh as those of Tup or Jesse. Once again, Kix is shown to be more reserved, and I see it as him maintaining his professionalism in raising these concerns, even as he is beginning to grow frustrated with this poor treatment. 4. The note of Kix beginning to grow frustrated with the treatment of his brothers will be expanded upon throughout the Umbara arc; especially in light of Kix taking his frustration and horror out on the wildlife of Umbara for feeding on the corpses of his brothers. If I am to extrapolate, those dead clones serve as a reminder to Kix; a remainder that he, more and more, has been unable to properly care for all his injured brothers. These clones are a reminder to Kix of the brothers he could not save. This is the first crack within Kix, due to the stress of Umbara, and I have to emphasis, this is not Kix’s normal pattern of behavior. 5. Continuing the thread of Kix beginning to crack under the pressures of Umbara, there is a moment in Umbara where Kix is tending to an injured clone—one that’s in his arms, and this clone gets shot to death in Kix’s arms. This is directly Kix being unable to save a clone’s life despite being right there, because Umbara is that overwhelming—to such a degree that he’s forced to leave behind the injured in this moment, even if he can save them. And this is another crack in Kix’s composure, because he snaps at Rex, he drops his professionalism and his respect, and even resorts to barbed comments against Rex for ordering him from tending to the injured because Torrent needs Kix alive. This is not Kix’s normal behavior, this is Kix, stressed and crumbling under the weight of Umbara. 6. The last notable scene Kix appears in, and this is the moment where Kix finally breaks under Umbara’s pressure—it’s the moment where he starts haphazardly firing his blaster at the enemy. This is intended to be shocking—because this is not how Kix nominally acts, he’s in immense distress, and it takes Tup pulling him into cover to get him to calm down. Kix holds his composure for so long, and when he does break, he breaks hard. 7. To cap off the Umbara thoughts, though Kix does have more scenes, he is relegated to a background character for the most part—but, I can only imagine what was going through Kix’s head when he had, under the orders of Krell, fired upon other clones, it is completely counter to who he is, both as a person and as a medic, and I imagine it cuts deep—as it did for all clones involved in that moment, but for Kix… some of that hurt I imagine would be coming from how he’s meant to save his brothers lives, he’s the medic… and yet, in that moment, all he did was take theirs.

Umbara shows that Kix—who has been shown to be a respectful, kind, and helpful clone who just earnestly wants to do his duty in providing his brothers with the care he needs—is broken by an inability to help.

From the Chip arc (S06:01 - S06:04):

1. Not much to be said about some of Kix’s first appearances in this arc, as Kix is doing what he does as a medic (and expressing concern for Tup.) But the scene where Tup is in the infirmary, and Kix is confused about what’s wrong with Tup, I do think that Kix being willing to say that he can’t figure out what’s wrong, and that if they want answers, he’ll need to be sent back to Kamino, is indicative of Kix is aware of the limitations in his knowledge and is willing to humble himself. 2. This is more light-hearted scene (at first, anyway,) and is mostly conjecture on my part but I find it too amusing to leave out. That is the scene in which Kix is checking himself out in the mirror at 79’s. I do not think this is indicative of Kix being conceited about his looks—rather, I think it’s indicative of something else entirely in light of how he also talks in this scene. When he realizes someone else walks in, he talks with a deeper tone that I can only describe as Kix trying to present himself as being cool and mysterious. All the while he’s nonchalantly brushing his shoulders off. It’s so funny to me, especially when he realizes it’s Fives who just walked in, and immediately he tone switches to his typical inflection—and his mannerisms return to the typical ones we’ve seen of him. (Yes, I also think Kix had the haircut he does because he tries to present himself as cooler than he actually is, I imagine he grew embarrassed by this insistence given he grows it out later on—Kix is a dork, I said what I said.) 3. And yes, Kix immediately jumping to concern, before offering his help to Fives—even if his duty would insist that he turn Fives in because of the attempted assassination—I think, this is because Kix fixates on Fives’ distress, and he focuses on how to alleviate that stress, so even as it’s clear he’s confused by what Fives has gotten himself into, Kix still offers his help, and gives it freely in getting Fives in direct contact with Anakin and Rex at his behest. It’s a strong moment for his character, and his face when he asks what he can do to help… it’s so earnest. He’s loyal to his brothers.

And finally, there is the Echo arc of season 7, (S07:01 - S07:04):

1. When their gunship gets shot down, Kix is the first to notice that Cody was injured in the wreck and is trapped; I put this down to Kix being attentive and keeping track of the head count of the party he’s with, something done because he is the team medic and he is responsible for the well being of those around him first and foremost. 2. Then there is the scene at the campfire, which, firstly shows the bond Jesse and Kix have given the ease of banter between them and the comfort between them in their interactions. Secondly, I find it interesting how when Wrecker strangles Jesse, while Rex resorts to more direct action (trying to pull Wrecker by his collar,) Kix kind of just hovers, it’s a pretty… non-violent action when Rex and Jesse both jump to the defensive with the batch (Rex, even more directly, later on, when he actually punches Crosshair.) Similarly, even when Crosshair shoves Kix away, Kix shoves back before getting stuck in a headlock, and even after getting out of the headlock, at most he puts his hands on Crosshair to keep shoving him away. Generally, Kix is a lot less confrontational compared to either Jesse and Rex are in regards to the batch—which, circles around to my point of Kix not being as assertive, neither will he be overly aggressive towards allies. (This may be extrapolated as Kix refusing to take more direction action against another clone, given Umbara. But, that’s just extrapolation; a theory, a musing on motives.) 3. (Also yes I am aware that Kix makes jabs about the batch and I mostly construe this to be that Kix can be judgmental about others when he’s skeptical of them, I have my reasons as to why I’m not putting a lot of weight on this but it’s tied to a critique of the arc’s writing, which is not what this is about.)

In summation, Kix is shown, repeatedly, to be someone whose kind and helpful—what matters most to him is the care and well being of his brothers. He’s earnest in that care, and he’s got a softness that underscores a lot of his mannerisms and speech. He does his best to hold himself together for the sake of his brothers. He gets frustrated and breaks down in the face of mounting casualties and an inability to help his brothers. He’s respectful and professional in how he conducts himself as a medic, and even if he pulls rank, he’s firm but kind about it—he expresses patience in how he handles those under his care. Additionally, and in my own conjecture of his character, Kix tries to present himself as cooler than he actually is, suggesting a level of dorky insecurity to him. He’s also shown to lash out and make barbed comments when he’s incredibly stressed, and Kix carries judgment towards others when he’s skeptical of them.

What Kix is not is a hard ass medic whose sick of everyone’s shit, who berates and scolds his patients relentlessly—complaining about how they make his job harder. He is not quick to anger nor does he easily take his frustrations out on those around him—especially those under his care. He does not constantly throw his rank around to get those under his care to do what he wants.

It is a far cry from Kix’s character, and I think it’s a damn shame Kix’s actual character gets ignored in favor in fanon, because honestly, Kix as he is in canon is incredibly interesting—carrying a host of traits that can be explored and examined in their own right.

(Also, in quick references, I’ve narrowed down two videos that compiled Kix’s screen time across TCW, this one which clocks at ~14 minutes, and the second one with clocks in at ~17 minutes.)

#help I'm star wars posting #Clone Medic Kix #Star Wars #Fandom Stuff #Long Post #Space's Fandom Stuff #do I need a meta tag now #technically?#Fandom Salt #Fandom Nonsense

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random-letters-i-just-thought-of · 7 months

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Random Codywan headcanon:

After many complains and some pressing by the Jedi for some more gear for the clones than only the bare essentials, every clone is reluctantly equipped with one sweatshirt-like black by the kaminoans. Officially for "colder temperatures", inofficially (intended by the Jedi) for comfort and to give the clones at least a tiny little opurtinity to custumize their outfits. (Let's just pretend they have time for that in the midde of a war)

And after the complains that the standard-blacks aren't distinctable enough to actually belong to one clone, because they get all mixed up after the next wash anyway, each of these sweatshirts comes with a embroidery reading "Property of insert Clone's number".

Of course the Clones are not having that. In the 212th, a small group of dedicated Clones make it their mission to redo every single one of these embroiderys and replace the number with the clone's name before the sweatshirts are delivered.

Anyway, Cody doesn't end up really wearing his. Not because he doen't like sweatshirts, but because it's just a little to tight to his taste. It does, however, perfectly fit Obi Wan, who's a bit leaner than Cody, so he ends up frequently stealing it. (It gets cold when they're doing paperwork together until late at night and he's not going to walk all the way back to his own room just to get one of his).

Cue, emergency council meeting on one of these evenings and Obi Wan's called to give a quick report, so he's standing there in the middle of the meeting, "Property of Cody" embrodied on his back and chest. Mace is just staring him down in true "Are you f*ing serious? I'm so f*ing done" fashion and the other masters can hardly hold back their giggling. Cody, who's standing in the background of the call, is embarrassed and blushing like crazy when he gets what's going on. Obi Wan is beaming. He thinks it's hilarious. He wears the sweatshirt to every single council meeting from now on.

#I don't know if this makes sense #welcome to todays round of 'I came up with nonsensical star wars scenarious in the shower'#Let's just pretend there are sweatshirts in Star Wars #codywan #star wars #the clone wars #obi wan kenobi #commander cody #clone wars #star wars the clone wars #clone troopers #jedi shenanigans #jedi

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frostbitebakery · 1 year

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The Negotiator

#obi wan kenobi #star wars #star wars prequels #my art #star wars fanart #a quick no nonsense study #that took like 3 months #frostbitebakery art

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sonicrainbooms · 8 days

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I know most of us are normal but I just would like to remind SOME of the fanbase that if CX-2 isn't Tech or Cody (or whoever else) then do NOT harass the crew. That's shit behaviour. You have to accept that theories are just that until proven correct or incorrect, and you can not treat fan theories like canon, or things that "should have been" canon. If you become so angry at being wrong that you feel the need to harass the crew, then you have only yourself to blame for allowing the theory to obscure your enjoyment of the show and its ending. That is how they wanted to tell the story. It is not their job to give us what we want. That's what fanfics and fix-it fics are for.

I also want CX-2 to be Tech. I have made my own posts about the similarities between the two. But that's all they are: theories. If CX-2 never appears again or is confirmed to be Some Rando™ then we're just gonna have to deal with it. We can not change that. You can not change that. But you HAVE TO RESPECT Jennifer, Brad, Dave, and all the other members of the crew. Be. Normal.

#star wars #tbb #tbb tech #the bad batch #not spoiler tagging this bc its not spoilers #pudge yaks on #text #sorry it got rambly i just saw some Nonsense in another post

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jessicas-pi · 2 months

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According to Wookieepedia, someone calculated that the Millenium Falcon was theoretically fast enough to reach another galaxy in about 100 days, so in my opinion, season 2 of the Ahsoka show really ought to be Ezra & Han's Fantastic Intergalactic Rescue Road Trip

#star wars #jessica's non writing nonsense

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moltengoldveins · 9 months

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…. Maul really went “yknow what my carefully crafted plan of vengeance needs? Boob window and Evil Throne.” And all his soldiers literally went “go off king, we serve you and you serve the Looks.” And painted their armor to match. Some added spikes. Where did they get the time? The paint? What are the spikes made out of? If not beskar, then are they easy to break off?

Like, Ventress was flirting with the aesthetic Maul has been in a committed marriage with for three decades.

#star wars #the clone wars #darth maul #hot nonsense #This man and his Everything baffle me

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suspensionbridges · 2 years

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I don’t think I can overstate how top tier a character Reva is.

Moses Ingram and the writers deserve so much praise.

#reva sevander #reva #i cried ugly tears for her #star wars nonsense #moses ingram

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legobiwan · 1 year

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Oh boi oh boi that Star Wars poll (you know which one) got real spicy real fast.

*gets the popcorn*

#hello there #star wars nonsense

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0h0possum · 2 months

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A Codywan and How to Train Your Dragon crossover that turned into a the Mandalorians factions are dragons AU, because I can never just do something simple and for the heck of it.

If you’re not interested the AU lore, leave now or suffer my rambling lol.

Basically, the idea is that Mandalorians started as a race that could shift into dragons. The Mand’alor line and those of most influence were notably ‘Fury’s (for example Mand’alor Tarre Viszla was a Nightfury and so is his generational line). But over time most Mandolorians who could shift were killed off or just lost the ability as more non-shifter Mandolorians married in. Eventually only a few of the Fury’s were around, and when Mandalore split most chose factions lead by the remaining Fury lines. AKA: the New Mandalorians/Lightfury’s, the Haat Mando'ade or True Mandalorians/Duskfury’s, and the Kyr’tsad or Death Watch/Nightfury’s.

Basically this also helps explain (in my head) why Mandalorians would follow Death Watch (terrorists) or the New Mandalorians (Intense Pacifist). It’s because they see those lines that can still shift as chosen leaders or a physical embodiment of the Ka’ra’s will.

How is Obi-Wan a shifter though? Well in this AU he’s the son of Tor Viszla. Long story short, early on when Obi-Wan was born he displayed being force sensitive, and Obi-WAN’s mom (Tor’s wife??? Idk it’s not important to the story) basically went ‘Aw hell naw’ and tried to drown Obi-Wan. Only to be stopped by a traveling Jedi who stole Obi-Wan and saved him. Totally unaware that this baby was Mandalorian, the son one of the biggest Mandalorian factions, AND also one of the last few existing Mandalorian dragon shifters. (Also Obi-Wan’s mom doesn’t want to admit that she lost Obi-Wan to a Jedi and just tells Tor that he was force sensitive and she succeeded in drowning him).

Maybe I’ll get into it later but basically Obi-Wan grows up as normal in the Temple, but obviously at some point he shifts and has the biggest panic of his life. But with help from friends (Quinlan, Garen, Siri, and Bant) he figures out shifting (enough to control it) and helps keep it a secret (Mandalorians and Jedi still don’t have best relations and Obi-Wan is paranoid about being kicked out of the Order anyways *cough cough Brandomeer cough cough Melinda/Daan*). To be clear, Obi-Wan isn’t like ashamed of what he is. He just doesn’t want the judgments of coming from CLEAR Mandalorian roots, and Death Watch at that. Plus he kinda just decides to not think about how he’s pretty much definitely related to well known terrorist Tar and Pre Viszla, because then he doesn’t have to address it. Besides he’s happy as a Jedi.

Anyways, NOW CODY-

So without getting to detailed (mission failed lol) all the clones ARE shifters (Duskfury’s just like Jango Fett), but they have it suppressed by the Kaminoans (probably part of their chips? I haven’t thought it fully out yet). BUT THINGS HAPPEN, probably Cody and Obi-Wan get stranded alone somewhere for a long time and Cody gets his chipped fucked up somehow, and now he’s shifting into a dragon???? And scaring the shit out of both him and Obi-Wan. But Obi-Wan exposes himself as a dragon shifter as well to comfort Cody and show that he will keep his secret. Plus he clearly understands him. (At this point they both are under the impression the clones aren’t shifters, and think Cody is just an outlier and “late bloomer” so to speak). Cue them learning how to be dragons together and be comfortable in their other form.

And eventually they get rescued and find out somehow all the clones are shifters, and therefore find the chips and discover Palpatine’s plan, SO THE GALAXY IS SAVED!

(Additionally the clones get rights and go to form their own society/group (Obi-Wan comes with to be with other dragons, but mostly to be with Cody), and they form an alliance with the New Mandalorians and accidentally unit Mandalore purely by the three Fury types (Nightfury/Obi-Wan, Duskfury/Cody, Lightfury/Satine) being around each other lol.

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