#star wars racism

[ermakeys]

I want the option on Disney plus to write comments under a show or even an episode. Just so I can write 'fuck you' and 'who the fuck are these people, certainly not clones because they don't look like Temuera Morrison'

#star wars #star wars racism #unwhitewash the clones #unwhitewash the bad batch #uwtbb #fuck you disney

[just-another-dreamerr]

I've seen like 5 gifs of "Tales of the Jedi" and the whitewashed clones and Caleb already feel like a slap to the face that I should've expected but damn.

#angry but not surprised #what the hell is it gonna take for these people to put some melanin in POC characters #star wars #tales of the jedi #star wars racism #lou rambles #im mad and im not even a poc

[chellilonaaphra]

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#. #moses ingram #kenobi #Star Wars #star wars racism

[notfromcold]

Sometimes I still think about how they made noted Shakespearean actor, Star Wars fan, and member of a whole family of Star Wars fans, Oscar Isaac say "somehow Palpatine returned" after trying to turn his character into a drug running racist stereotype.

Sometimes I do think about that.

#star wars #racism

[ossidae-passeridae]

4. What’s the worst part of fanon? 😈

Question from here

That'd be the implicit racism thanks for asking!

A non snappy response, aka to explain what I mean by that:

A lot of fanon tropes implicitly reinforce a very white, America-centric POV, and in a universe like the GFFA which lies somewhere between heavily Asian-inspired and gloriously multicultural, that really rubs me the wrong way. (To clarify upfront: it is not racist or whatever to enjoy these tropes or to write them, but it worries me when people don't even seem to realise it)

An obvious, innocuous-seeming example is the tendency to use 'Ben' instead of Obi-Wan's actual name in AUs — especially when others' names (Anakin, Mace, Cody, etc) aren't changed as well. The biggest difference between those names and Obi-Wan's is that Obi-Wan's is obviously Asian inspired, and theirs aren't. It's not something I expect most people even think about! But it always leaves a sinking feeling in my chest.

(Obviously if, like in canon, Obi-Wan is using Ben as a pseudonym while in hiding that's a very different kettle of fish.)

A larger example is how incredibly common it is to cast the Jedi as space-Christians — some common examples being focus on tenets (the Jedi Code, which is a meditation mantra, not a rulebook), the pervasive Catholic Guilt which is very explicitly Christian in nature, the emphasis on worship as ritual rather than a state to work towards, the generalised "all organised religion must be Bad" sentiments that feel very specifically ex-Christian in nature.

Thinking about one's own religion and expressing thoughts through fiction/art isn't an issue in and of itself.

The thing is, the Jedi are explicitly based on Asian Buddhists. Not just in set dressing, but from the ground up, from their beliefs and the way they act, to their clothing to the structure of their temple — to strip that away is to remove what makes the Jedi the Jedi. It's to remove the Asian-ness and replace it with something predominantly white. It implies that Asian influence shouldn't or can't exist in the GFFA, or that there's something inferior or wrong about Buddhism that needs to be "fixed".

Again this isn't something where I think that fan authors are sitting there going "muhahaha I'm going to be RACIST today", I know that's not what's happening. But when so much Jedi-centric content being produced minimises the Asian influence and pushes a western one, it starts to say "there's something wrong with this group, we're trying to erase it because there shouldn't be representation at all" — an issue of scale, at its core.

(Then ofc there's all the "the Jedi steal babies" and "the Jedi ban emotions" and "the Jedi need to be destroyed" which, entirely separate from the above, if you replace 'Jedi' with 'Buddhists' I'm kind of starting to wonder why you hate Asian people/Asian religions, you know?)

I won't even get into the fanon surrounding the clones, because that'd require me to talk about KT far more than I'd like to on any day, but especially today 🤣

(All opinions expressed above are solely those of pass e. ridae and do not express the views or opinions of any affiliates or associates, passerine or otherwise)

#dae asks #star wars #jedi order #racism #as always a single person doing x is not the issue #it's the fandom as a whole doing the thing that can make it more :/ #I don't think people can't or shouldn't write what they like #I just ask that they think about it first! I sure do every time I start a new fic

[unwhitewashthebadbatch]

As much praise as The Bad Batch is getting for improved writing and increased stakes, it's important to remember #UnwhitewashTBB and the valid critiques that fans of color and Jewish, disabled, and ND fans had about the series and the ways it's harmed them.

Frankly, fans' concerns over bigoted writing and portrayals should have been taken seriously and taken into account when writing + designing the second and third seasons.

In a perfect world, there never would have been whitewashing. There never would have been ableism and antisemitism, either. The creators would have seriously examined the Bad Batch from ALL angles, not just the ones that make the show fun or look good.

Unfortunately, the series has its glaring issues, and they were not corrected by the time the final season was set to air.

However, other creators in #StarWars can learn from this. They can examine their own unconscious biases and avoid, for instance, making a genius a white man with a British accent, while his brawns over brain counterpart can only be read as a man of color.

They can look into harmful tropes for the marginalized people they do want to represent and head in a different direction. They can change. They can improve. They can guarantee that when they say #StarWarsIsForEveryone, they mean it.

#fanart #omega #the bad batch #hunter #crosshair #tech #mod ch #unwhitewashtbb #star wars #swtbb #tbb #hunter tbb #tech tbb #omega tbb #crosshair tbb #tbb season 3 #tbb season 3 premiere #racism #representation #star wars the bad batch #bad batch #hunter bad batch #tech bad batch #omega bad batch #wrecker bad batch #wrecker tbb #media representation #ableism #antisemitism

[clonehub]

Yeah some people are constantly complaining about star wars because they think cinema sins style "critique" makes them smarter than the media they still wanna consume anyways, but other people are constantly complaining about star wars because they see capitalism, racism, and disrespectful writing plaguing the thing they love. I wish when people complained about how negative the fandom is they'd separate between the useless nitpickers and the ones who have genuine critiques that would improve star wars overall.

#ch posts #star wars #how in all of these conversations people fail to acknowledge that both star wars #and fandom racism is why a lot of people are so negative about sw 'all the time' #(i know why lol)

[yukipri]

A personal message from Ewan McGregor.

This weekend, Star Wars fans made Obi-Wan Kenobi the most watched Disney Plus Original Series premiere of all time. And for that, I would say a big thank you, and it just goes to show what this family can do when we all pull together.

However, it seems like some of the fanbase, from this influential fanbase, have decided to attack Moses Ingram online and send her the most horrendous, racist DMs. And I heard some of them this morning and it just broke my heart.

Moses is a brilliant actor, she's a brilliant woman, and she's absolutely amazing in this series. She brings so much to the series, she brings so much to the franchise. And it just sickened me to my stomach to hear that this had been happening.

I just want to say, as the leading actor on the series, as the executive producer on the series, that we stand with Moses. We love Moses, and if you're sending her bullying messages, you're no Star Wars fan in my mind. There's no place for racism in this world, and I totally stand with Moses.

Link to video on the official Star Wars Twitter

Link to video on the official Star Wars Instagram

#Ewan McGregor #Obi-Wan Kenobi #Obi-Wan Kenobi show #Moses Ingram #Reva #Inquisitor Reva #Star Wars #racism #tw: racism #Edited with transcribed text

[bbygirl-obi]

the prevalence of certain fandom attitudes towards the relationship between mace windu and anakin skywalker cannot be separated from the fact that mace windu is a darker skinned black man and anakin skywalker is a conventionally attractive white man with blue eyes and blond hair- *gunshots*

nor can it be separated from the fact that mace windu lives a lifestyle that is both asexual and aromantic (in violation of the framework of the the nuclear family) and is devoted to non-western forms of philosophy and community, while anakin skywalker embodies the archetype of the heterosexual, alloromantic, wife-and-two-kids ideal (achieving it is literally his only priority)- *additional gunshots*

#friendly reminder that we all have internalized racism yes even the best of us yes even poc #white supremacy is something we spend our entire LIVES unpacking if you ever think you've achieved wokeness you have in fact lost it #i am not claiming to be the buddha #nor am i claiming that this is 100% the issue #but i think there is a nonzero number of people in this fandom for whom it IS the issue in part when it should not be at ALL #i think samuel l jackson is hot btw but white supremacist beauty standards do not #mace windu #mace #anakin skywalker #anakin #star wars #sw

[short-wooloo]

I remember seeing this post that talked about how black people have to put up a veneer of "friendliness", always smiling, perpetually putting up a harmless demeanor, etc, all for the sake of not making white people uncomfortable

And this of course absolutely extends to fiction

9/10 times black characters are made to be as non-threatening as possible, always smiling, joking, being goofy, being sidekicks to the white (male) leads, and always deferring to them

And that made me realize something...

Mace Windu isn't these things

Mace is serious, stoic, he's powerful, a leader of his people, and does not just bend over to give the white lead whatever he wants

And for white fan stanakins who are accustomed to black characters never challenging their problematic faves, this is infuriating

#star wars #wooloo-writes #wooloo writes #sw #mace windu #fandom racism

[queen-breha-organa]

So ahead of the Bad Batch season 2 release, Brad Rau (the series director) has given an interview with Collider.

In this interview, he’s asked about Unwhitewash The Bad Batch and I want to take a moment to talk about his response. The interview snippet is below, and you can click the link to see the entire conversation:

Interviewer: Okay, okay. I also wanted to touch on something that comes up a lot in the Star Wars fandom. I know you're both on Twitter, so you may have seen it: "Unwhitewash The Bad Batch." I know that Season 2 was, I think, almost completely finished by the time Season 1 was already on our screens. So I'm curious to know if that's something you're going to address or at least acknowledge moving forward with seasons.

Rau: We listened to all the concerns of the fans. Interestingly, in Season 1, before Season 1 came out, we're always doing this, we went back to look at the skin tones, and we made some corrections to make sure that we're being true to the legacy of the clones in Clone Wars. Absolutely, 100%

-Collider, 'The Bad Batch' Season 2 Showrunners on Working With Dave Filoni and & Creating the Clones' Personalities

I have multiple problems with this response, and it’s implications. 

First, “We listened to all the concerns of the fans”. This is not evident now, nor has it been evident in the past. This interview is the first time we’re seeing a formal response to this issue. Saying you are listening, and showing you are listening, are two separate things. 

Second, “we went back to look at the skin tones”. Setting aside the fact that whitewashing is more than just skin tone, it’s evident that no one paid any attention to accurate skin tones for any characters. 

Besides the Clones, Kanan, Depa, and Fennec are all lighter than their original animated/live action counterparts. This skin tone lightening is a dismissal of the character’s and actor’s cultural and racial identity. 

Third, “we made some corrections to make sure that we're being true to the legacy of the clones in Clone Wars”. The Clone Trooper animation models in TCW are also heavily whitewashed. Going back and referencing whitewashed and inaccurate models does not allow for improvement, rather, it allows for a continuation of the original problem. 

Temuera Morrison is a Māori man. He plays Jango Fett, who is the Clone template. This means, all Clone Troopers should look like him. Temuera is the template, not outdated and whitewashed animation models. His round features, brown skin, dark eyes, and curly hair are the template.

This response from Brad Rau is not just inaccurate, but it’s disrespectful. It’s a blatant dismissal of issues while also implying they did the bare minimum when they really did nothing at all. 

This continued intentional ignorance and dismissal keeps proving that LucasArts does not care about taking responsibility for their actions, or providing accurate and respectful representation for People of Color. 

#Star Wars #the bad batch #anti bad batch #Star Wars the clone wars #Clone wars #unwhitewashtbb #unwhitewash the bad batch #uwwtbb #racism #fandom racsim

[aces-to-apples]

I have decided to be generous in my interpretation of everyone and their space grandmother consistently referring to Maul and Savage as "monsters" today and decided that it's actually a form of in-universe self-censorship. What they actually want to call my boys is "motherfuckers".

#star wars #the clone wars #Darth maul #Savage opress #The racism is incidental to not calling their nemeses 'motherfuckers' in front of grandmaster yoda #By apples

[revenge-of-the-shit]

Idk man I think there's something to be said about how quickly people left. When I joined the SW fandom and followed all these people, it was a constant flow of fan content for Star Wars back in 2020 when #clonewarssaved was coming around. The circle I was (and am still in) in was primarily composed of fans of colour and it was filled with hopeful, enthusiastic, interested fans. By now, though, four years later, my feed (with the same people) has almost completely dried up in regards to Star Wars and much of what I see is either (1) critical of SW or (2) predominantly reblogged by white creators and. It's just so sad to see what used to be a vibrant community get dried up because we got harassed and burned out to the point we decided this franchise and fandom wasn't worth it anymore

#Star wars fandom #Racism

[enlichened]

The thing thats consistently bothered me the most in the fallout show is the racism. I would hesitate to recommend it because of that alone. And there was obvious love that the set and prop designers, actors, costume department, and even maybe the writers put into the show! There are themes and characters in fallout that i'm certain would resonate with fans of color!

It KILLS me that so many of the fallout entries are damn well unplayable/watchable in this regard because the writers simply Don't Care how the people in their work are presented. That this like hugely popular world with a lot of worldbuilding and thought behind it does such wrong to so many people, fans and otherwise, that you cannot find any game in the series that does it right or well. It alienates a lot of people who might've been fans just because the majority white creators and fanbase don't give a shit, and I'm sick of it.

it's not enough to say "in the fallout in my head that racism doesn't happen," you actually have to put some things into PRACTICE. Allow space in your head, your games/show, your fan spaces for people of color! notice and say something when you see racism coming from media, yourself, and others!

#like its not AS bad as other fallout media but isnt that the fucking kicker. that its not AS bad #and in fact the games im thinking of that are most egregious in their racism ARE interplay/obsidians games. #bethesda is NOT free from criticism or racism. just look at the elder scrolls. #all of the fallout games have been terrible to different extents to their black characters #the games are TERRIBLY sinophobic. the great war being pinned on china allows for SO much racism in the writing and in fan spaces #but fallout 2 and new vegas specifically have awful and degrading representations of indigenous people. to the point where i wont play 2. #and now this show treating maximus nearly one to one with how star wars writers AND fans treated finn? its not okay #personal / #fallout show #fallout blogging #racism #antiblackness #colonialism #fallout #if not for this i would have thought that the show was GOOD. surprisingly compelling. anti capitalist messaging. but its just. all the time #and this is coming from a white person! i can only listen and imagine how painful it is to play these games or watch the show #and be the butt of the joke every time!!! or the villain or the fool or the one who dies or the nameless entry. #maximus gets to have Some time in the light as a protagonist but for the beginning half of it he's treated SO awfully by the writers #and the latter half does not do enough to make up for it #EDIT: I JUST FINISHED THE SHOW AND THEY FUCKING MADE IT WORSE.... #taking max out and having lucy leave him. for what exactly. why did they have to undermine him and make him look stupid at every opportunit #AND. two of the more major black women being evil capitalists juxtaposed by some white guy who opposes? ......................... #like im glad moldaver was there. i guess. but even she is posed as the villain for the good majority of it and kills innocent people #for no reason and. UGH

[the-desolated-quill]

You’ve got to love how pathetically predictable and predictably pathetic the alt-right anti woke brigade are. About a year ago when the first gameplay trailer for Star Wars Outlaws came out, fans started joking about how the reactionaries would react to a Star Wars game having a non-white woman as the protagonist, to which the reactionaries started throwing their toys out of the pram, saying that ‘the left’ were trying to antagonise and make fun of them. Fast forward to now, the new story trailer has been released and the reactionaries respond by doing the very thing we were joking about in the first place. 😂

#star wars outlaws #star wars #sexism #racism

[maeve-on-mustafar]

There’s nothing I hate more in Mace Windu memes and videos than when he’s suddenly characterized as talking in “gangsta” slang and “hood” speak.

He doesn’t talk like that in canon. Ever. At all. The only reason people suddenly have him talking like the Black Best Friend in Not Another Teen Movie is because he’s black.

There is no other reason. There is no other reason to have him suddenly drastically switch speaking patterns than the color of his skin.

It’s racist. Stop it.

#mace windu #tw: racism #star wars discourse #my meta #star wars prequels