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the television adaptation of Archive 81 is probably the most poorly executed attempt to bring an audio fiction podcast to the screen, and yes, i'm including the Facebook TV version of Limetown. at least Limetown had Stanley Tucci!
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MAG 81 - A Guest For Mr. Spider
doodle 81/200; days left 19/110
ehehe babby jon babby jon :)))
posting late bc today was horrible. first bouldering, after which i couldnt even write. (also i know climbing shoes are supposed to be cramped but they didnt have my size and i had to wear shoes that were three sizes too small and i couldnt feel my toes for a good hour after that)
then i tried to prepare one kid for an esl english test but their textbook is. god i HATE IT SM. it doesnt make sense and the kids cant even say a full sentence after 3 yrs of english >:( but the test is also from there so grrr have to use it >:((( Fock you Happy Street from Oxford
and THEN my dog got bitten by a sewer rat (?) and he then killed (???) the rat (??????) which was like,,,,almost as big as him?? and like he is vaccinated but im also sweating bullets atm
anyway that's it for my littol rant i'm sorry but i am just so angy
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mourningmaybells · 1 year
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people miss the fact that archive 81 is a horror comedy and also has gay people it’s so sad
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ijustcantfigureout · 1 year
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bad headcanon time: the archive 81 that rat (s2) watched/listened to was actually the netflix version, and that's why he shipped dan and melody.
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It seems as if the archive 81 tag is no longer fully populated with Netflix gifs and once again is a relatively empty place with occasional podcast fanart. Nature is healing ❤️
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ochrophyta · 1 year
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hardblocking people i enjoy following/mutuals for any small transgression is so fun. someone ive followed for like a year just said they watched the archive 81 tv show? blocked immediately
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lgbtpopcult · 2 years
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A note from the editors...
On First Kill and What it Says About Netflix, Media and the Undo Burden Queer Women Have to Carry
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I have no criticisms for First Kill. The people who worked on it did their best with the limited budget and experience they had. Even with its flaws the concept was good and the story of the two girls alone managed to get more viewership than many Netflix series that are constantly renewed.
I will however talk about Netflix. I have been very vocal of my criticism of Netflix in the past but always put that aside so we can promote wlw media on this blog wherever they came from. But it was always blatant how the idea of queer women leads is viewed on the platform.
Netflix initially launched into mainstream culture in great part due to offering diverse shows like Orange is the new Black (a show specifically diverse in terms of women's sexuality, with queer women leads). Shows that were considered alternative and progressive compared to Network TV. After succeeding in gaining popularity because they offered the thing others didn't, Netflix content shifted. Even though investing in creating a quality show with a wlw main couple had paid off in the past they decided being more like network TV was the best strategy. Any attempt at inclusion for queer women was either carefully veiled behind projects that "are not really about the gay girls, the gay girls are just there" like The Prom, promoted without a hint of the lgbt content like Everything Sucks and Teenage Bounty Hunters or not promoted at all like Feria The Darkest Light, The Half of It and I'm Not Ok With This. They were generally given very little room to succeed. Most of the wlw focused projects were never promoted, had unknown actors and given a small budget.
If the project was big, well promoted and expensive it meant the screentime of the queer woman was limited. Even Warrior Nun (based on very gay source material) and Babysitter's Club (with everyone thinking the lead has to be queer) simply gave a side character 2 minutes to be out as a gay girl and called it a day. If they're investing big you can count on the gay woman part to be small. This came to a head when they changed the lead's sexuality in Archive 81 (who was a lesbian with a wife in the original podcast) and made her wife her gay roommate. "And they were roommates!". It was in some ways laughable to what lengths they'd go to because of their need to limit queer women to side characters in big projects they're actually invested in.
But First Kill was a series putting the wlw couple front and center so we had to believe all of the above was a coincidence right? We gave them another chance and they proved everything we had been seeing was right. They set it up to fail and when it didn't they justified the cancellation by saying it didn't succeed enough. That's the thing. It would have succeeded enough if they hadn't set it up to fail so blatantly.
Netflix will rain unbelievable amounts of money to get the biggest names from the TikTok, acting and music worlds to star in their big budget straight cheesy romances. They gave First Kill 10 dollars and candy to paraphrase a person who worked on the show. They were unwilling to pay for the really good, experienced writing team needed to turn a vampire romance story into a well fleshed out TV show. As a result the writing was acceptable for a vampire romance novel but not for live action TV dialogue. They were unwilling to pay for good cgi. As a result the cgi made CW shows look good in comparison. They were unwilling to pay for expensive, popular actors. They were unwilling to pay for any sort of production value. Why? Because they don't have enough faith in projects about queer women to invest in them. But the wlw shows have to succeed anyway or else we confirm their aversion to invest in our projects was right. We are asked and creators are asked to make a hit out of something without given the proper tools and then told we don't sell.
That is our vicious circle with Netflix even if it's proven that when money and work is put in to a project that centers wlw, people will come. Even if millions are lost on failed projects that center straight ppl. Even in a world where Gen Z is set to rule the world and it's a generation that is more and more queer.
Queer women are expected to consume projects that are lesser than those of straight ppl and even those of gay men. Unfortunately, we live in that messed up intersection of misogyny and homophobia that makes investing in us somehow the last risk to take. As they liberally throw money away on worthless trash. But it's straight trash so...
Good news is Network TV is dying. Netflix imitating their focus on a default basic straight audience (and the white gay pretty boys they can fetishize) does not seem like a good strategy for the future. Other services that are putting real effort into bringing queer women out of the TV margins will become the entertainment providers of the most sexually diverse generation of women we've ever had. Let's bring about that future as soon as possible. Go watch Paper Girls, Yellowjackets, Harley Quinn animated series, Dickinson, Crush... If you're a woman, or non-binary person, and not straight, fuck Netflix. Cancel your Netflix account.
Do fear for The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo. Expect as little from Netflix as possible. That's what they're willing to give you.
Twitter said it best:
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happy new year!
i’ve finally managed to find the time to sit down and finish the magnus archives (and cried for an hour straight but you didn’t need to know that)
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carrot-cakes · 6 months
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Straight people don't understand just how important representation is for us queer folk, no matter if they are allies. I was talking with a friend from uni about archive 81 and she couldn't understand why I couldn't give the netflix show a chance. I honestly do not care as much about how much they butchered the plot, what irks me the most is the straightwashing of Melody a lesbian woman with a whole WIFE into just another straight woman like in every other show out there. I feel like searching for needles in the hay when I am searching for a lesbian plot/couple/character, don't erase the existing ones too. Like it is not enough that we have our shows cancelled after a season...
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maxgicalgirl · 7 months
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Archive 81 tv show made Melody Pendras straight we cannot trust podcasts in the hands of mainstream media !!!!!!!
#archive 81#I have mixed feelings about it and as soon as they introduced Gal Pal Annabelle to replace Actual Girlfriend Alexa it should have been a#red flag#conceptually I really liked what they did to flesh out the first season#but they took it in a completely different direction by the end and at that point it’s not even the same thing anymore 🙄#like you can’t even pick up anything from the original’s season 2 because they reconstructed the narrative so much#idk man its not like they’re going to make any more of it anyways but I still felt the need to come on here and bitch#honestly main stream adaptations of podcasts scare me like I revel in exposure for things I like but ultimately so much gets lost in#translation#like archive 81 podcast is weird and nonsensical at times and Tape Recorder Man’s adventures in the Upside Down just don’t translate to a#general audience ? so they gotta bring in reasons for it to make sense like satanism and witches and demons#when that was sooooooo not the point of the original#like seeing how much they had to adjust to appeal to an outside audience makes me almost glad the wtnv tv show didn’t get green lit#can you imagine ???? how the fuck would they get five headed dragon Hiram McDaniel on my actual television ????#standing next to a Cecil Palmer with a canon appearance no less#like adaptations are cool and they CAN work sometimes but if you’re going to have to break and bend the world in order to make it to the#point where it’s a new thing entirely#ESPECIALLY since we live in a world where audio drama is not respected as a creative medium#at that point I’m just like leave it alone it’s fine on it’s own#anyways archive 81 is an interesting experiment into what live action podcast adaptations COULD look like but you can pry lesbian Melody#Pendras from my cold dead hands and that makes the adaptation automatically inferior imo#I guess she could be bi but when you remove Canon Girlfriend and instead make her kiss a man ? not likely#I am just talking to hear myself talk now goodbye#max rambles in the tags
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rabdoidal · 2 years
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"netflix’s homophobic values" --- pfffff. Netflix made She-Ra gay. Are you kidding me? Take a chill pill and watch Melody fall in love with a Black guy, you hypocrite.
netflix continuously platforms bigots
just because one show is gay doesnt mean other characters cant be gay
melody was written as a gay character in the podcast and then she was made straight in the show, she was not made straight from day one. dan also canonically has no romantic interest in her. i know this is all from listening to the podcast, but if you actually read my post or cared about the show, you'd know that
i dont "need to take a chill pill," i just dont like homophobic shows being produced
netflix isnt your friend, its a media conglomerate that earns more money than your tiny brain can conceive of - you starting arguments on the internet about it doesn't even ping on their radar. they have already made money from archive 81 and the rest is nothing to them. you mean as much to that company as i do.
trying to call me a hypocrite doesnt work in this context, because im not personally making gay characters straight, or anything in a similar vein
trying to pull the "its racist to not like dan/melody" card is offensive any way you slice it - neither of the characters casting makes erasing a lesbian okay. i wish there were more interracial relationships seen in media, but there shouldn't be a competition between "gay couple" or "interracial couple." both should be made without erasing the other.
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croik · 2 years
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Besides Malevolent, what other podcasts/audio works do you enjoy? Not limited to the horror genre. Malevolent is my first and I'm struggling to find others with the same level of quality right at the outset. Thanks for your response!
Not going to lie, you're going to have a hard time finding another fiction podcast at Malevolent's quality! No offense to everyone else, but the acting especially is just stellar for the medium. BUT, here are some others that I've really enjoyed. Most of my audio enjoyment is focused on horror fiction and Actualplays:
The Magnus Archives - If you're new to podcasts, this is really a must. It starts as an anthology as the narrator reads various statements from people who have encountered strange or supernatural things, and an overarching plot gets woven in over time. YMMV on the ending, I personally stopped after season 4, which to me was the perfect end.
Archive 81 - LOVED this one. The podcast, not the Netflix show. It is so weird, and so unique, it's hard to describe. It starts as another archive show similar to Magnus, but it branches into other dimensions, magical rituals, and the characters/acting are INCREDIBLE. Just so strange and wonderful, I was delighted at every turn. Season 1 is the roughest, so if you find yourself bouncing off, I recommend skipping straight to Season 3 and its followup. S3 + Left of the Dial are mostly self contained and don't need prior knowledge, and SO worth it. Someone come ship Michael/Aleister with me.
SAYER - Another Must Listen if only because there is an unusual amount of crossover between Malevolent and Sayer fans, lol. It's about an intelligent AI that handles personnel on a space station in the far, ultra capitalistic dystopian future. To be honest, I originally bounced after season 1, but recently I was encouraged to give it another try, and I'm EXTREMELY glad I did. It doesn't fully come into its own until around Season 3 imo but Season 4 is just SO good it makes everything worth it. Beware though that it's not finished and we don't know when the rest of the final season is coming ;_;
The Hyacinth Disaster - More of a thriller than horror, I haven't seen a lot of talk about it, but I enjoyed this one a LOT. It's about a bunch of space miners (like the crew of the original Alien) who are racing to mine valuable minerals from an asteroid, because they need the money to pay off a ransom. Which is a wild premise to begin with, and the quality is great.
If you are interested in Actual Plays that aren't the usual D&D (or even if you like that too) I recommend Dumb Dumbs and Dice, which has campaigns in several different systems, and The Neon Streets, which is Cyberpunk. Both casts are super talented, their stories are fast-paced with good use of the systems that don't get bogged down in dice, and they have a good mix of humor and drama. If you haven't done an actual play before, you might also want to try The Dark Dice, because it's edited so heavily that it feels like a regular drama most of the time. I would stop after season 1 though.
Omg I'm turning into a podcast slut XD. If anyone else has recs please put them in the replies!
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iclosedoors · 7 months
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just finished archive 81 and ive been informed that ratty has, in fact, been dead since the season 1 finale. and i just didnt fucking notice. i dont think i need to tell you how disappointed and heartbroken i am that a character with such a good heart and so, oh so central to the plot passed away, and it was just brushed off like his death was NOTHING. especially since his death was so gruesome. this really goes to show how arrogant we all are. how arrogant DAN is. how ungrateful we were for ratty while he was here, and the way we continue to brush off his death just because hes a RODENT. THERE WAS NO FUNERAL. NO MOURNING. i cant believe you all. shame on you. shame on DAN.
i think the only good thing the archive 81 netflix adaption could do is let ratty live. if they can diverge from the plot so hard that melody turns straight, then they can let ratty live
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chile-bug · 2 years
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The Archive 81 Netflix adaptation is so funny to me because not only did they not stick to the original plot or anything they also honestly wouldn't have been able to recreate all the wild shit that actually happened especially Dan's cosmic pregnancy and I don't think they'd even know where to start with Rat or the whole meta aspect
The straight washing was just a low blow and the final nail in the coffin though
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alivehouse · 3 months
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(While sending this ask I've accidentally found out what cool wallpapers (literally) you have on your desktop blog theme.)
Well, good day, my dearest horror podcast Virgil,
I, surprisingly to myself, actually finished "I am in Eskew" and enjoyed it quite a bit (which, I guess, could have been deduced by how much I spammed in the tag) even more surprisingly, considering I'm absolutely not a horror person - I substitute horror movies with their wikipedia retellings. Unironically.
Anyway, firstly, thank you! I definitely would have never discovered it without your recommendations!
Secondly, maybe you have something else like that stashed up your sleeve? I definitely need some time to recuperate, but I would like to explore more cool podcasts. (The only two limitations: short-ish - not much longer than this one, the view of a hundred+ episodes scares me; not gorier than this one/no actual jump scares - again, I'm a scardicat.) I remember you talking about "Mabel Podcast" and at the first glance it seems neat, but I'd like to hear your comments on it first.
Thanks in advance. :)
(thank you! its a william morris thing i edited a little lol) glad you liked eskew! its been fun seeing your thoughts on it popping up in the tag, not spammy at all.
i do want to mention that the creator of eskew also has another podcast called The Silt Verses, personally i havent listened to it for weird brain reasons so not sure how well it fits your criteria but ive heard its also very good
mabel podcast is another favorite! the creators of mabel and the creator of i am in eskew were both inspired by shirley jackson's the haunting of hill house to an extent iirc, so even though the stories are very different some elements of them have a similar 'feel' to them imo. i will say that mabel is very different stylistically though (especially the earlier episodes) which in my experience people seem to either love or hate. whereas in eskew you get a pretty continuous narration from david or riyo, in mabel youre mostly listening in on a series of somewhat disjointed voicemail messages. id definitely recommend at least giving the first few episodes a go, dont get discouraged if you dont feel like you dont understand whats happening right away. all you really need to know about the story going in is that youre following Anna, whos a live-in carer for an old woman named Sally. Anna is trying to contact Sallys next of kin (the titular Mabel), but shes strangely out of reach.
ok i know you said youre not a huge horror person but if you ever are feeling a little more daring id suggest trying out The White Vault. theres a small amount of gore (descriptions of finding hearts and teeth) and some uh. wet ripping sounds in it but its really not that bad all things considered, just know that it is straight horror though. its a found footage podcast that follows a group of people whove been hired to check out a remote outpost in northern norway thats gone dead, but a storm leaves them stranded there, and as time goes on it becomes clear that they arent exactly alone. this ones a little longer i think, but tbh ive only listened to the first two seasons, it felt like a natural place for the story to end to me
and then on the complete opposite side of the spooky podcast spectrum, if you want something thats a ghost story but really not horror at all imo, i just finished listening to Midnight Radio a few weeks back. this ones *really* short, like 10 episodes that are ~20 minutes each short, so its definitely lower commitment. in this one youre listening in on a radio show hosted by Sibyl, who died decades earlier but can still be heard waxing poetic about her hometown in the dead of night.
ok LAST ONE havent finished it so wasnt sure if i should rec it but a lot of people on my dash hype up Archive 81 so i thought id mention it at least. guy is hired to listen through a bunch of creepy tapes in some archive out in the middle of no where. classic horror podcast stuff. similar to eskew in that it pivots from mostly being mostly anthology into an overarching plot as you go on
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klausbens · 1 year
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i started listening to the archive 81 podcast bc i watched the show and i actually enjoyed it and was upset it got cancelled but then i found out they turned melody straight when she is in fact a lesbian and i wanted to commit crimes. so yeah here's me listening to the source material because lesbians AND because i want to know more but ngl my main reason is that a queer coded mark like the whole time i was watching the show i was like nah this man is not a cishet (he was my favorite. no favorite of mine is a cishet) and i wanted to check if i got the same vibe from the podcast but yeah i. i truly do
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