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monjustmon · 1 year
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I wonder if SW aliens with what seem like… normal inherent skin markings… get the impression that some humans’ make-up is just their skin. Like, say, a togruta that hasn’t left Shili seeing intergalactic news in the holonet and seeing “something something Naboo” and there’s a picture of Padme with all her white and red face paint, and the togruta maybe goes, “oh this lady has some nice marking’s symmetry going on.” And then them seeing another picture differently dated claiming to also depict Padme Amidala and the togruta going, “Who edited this, that’s obviously someone else, I know Padme Amidala has a red line down her lips!” Then going, “wait, I don’t actually know which is which” and them looking up Padme Amidala pictures and then seeing a bunch of paint patterns and going, “oh the news media has been very ineffective identifying this ruler!” On that note, would that mean that sw species with natural face markings would experience something akin to face blindness when dealing with species who don’t have natural face markings?
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So. After watching the new ep last night, I kept trying to figure out who the episode title was referring to. Because it's the spies, plural. And we only saw one known spy, at the very beginning.
And then I realized that it's the new Mandalorians. The ones on the mad-max viking ship or whatever. Because while they lead them all to the Forge like they said they would, that's where the ambush happened, where they were funneled into a trap. Gideon knew to find them there, specifically. And. Most telling, they sent up a BUNCH of their "sick" with the armor up to Bo's fleet. Also, Gideon has his own Beskar armor and his entire squadron or whatever has Beskar armor too. They had to have gotten that much Beskar from somewhere.
Bo and co are going to be getting out of the caverns and counting on being able to get back to the ships or the armorer coming back to pick them up.... But they're gonna be too busy dealing with a trojan horse style ambush to be able to assist.
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falllpoutboy · 1 year
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okay! I agree I don’t even think he cares to come back…. god just hoping for JOHN the fact that people trended and mentioned john first just shows how integral finn and rey are to each others stories if u ask me!!!
and you are so right it was always meant to be finn and rey TOGETHER but idk i feel like the only person that can convince him IS daisy bc we know they are such good friends and they literally started this journey together almost 10 years ago so like…
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adh-d2 · 15 days
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When has he ever followed orders?
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webtrinsic1122 · 6 months
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AHSOKA SPOILERS:
Is it just me or does the statue of the Daughter, while broken - looks like it’s not the Daughter at all and it’s younger Ahsoka? Cause I swear that looks like lek hanging down and not the daughters hair.
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ninjadeathblade · 21 days
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Why didn't the Empire stop Nala Se's access on her datapad? They know it's stolen, it would make sense for them to shut down her access with a long range signal.
Unless of course they have something planned.
Now that the datapad has been powered up again, the Empire might be able to track it.
In the trailer Rex says "I thought the end of the war would mean the end of losing more brothers. I was wrong." (or something I didn't check before making this post)
Did Rex lose Echo after Hemlock tracked the datapad?
Is Echo going to be making another sacrifice for a group of brothers to escape and live to fight another da
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inquisitor-apologist · 3 months
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Out of all of the MANY missed opportunities and shit in the Ahsoka show, I think one of the biggest was not exploring the really unique time period that the galaxy is in at all.
Like, think about it. The Ahsoka series takes place in ~10 ABY. The Rebellion is gone. The Galactic Civil War is over. The New Republic has established itself. The last Imperial remnants have been driven all the way out into the Outer Rim. People are rebuilding. The First Order and Imperial resurgence is still pretty far off.
The galaxy in Ahsoka is about as peaceful as it ever gets in the main timeline. And they do nothing with it.
What does peace feel like for Ahsoka, who was forced to fight literally every war in the past ~35 years just for being force-sensitive? (Drafted into the Clone Wars, fighting for survival during the Imperial and Rebellion Years, probably returning to the fight in the Civil War because she’s one of the last Jedi/trained force-sensitives) How does she deal with not having a fight she needs to help with? How does she move on from an entire life of exhausting, terrifying war? How does she look at the Jedi coming back, knowing that they’ll never be the Order she chose to leave at 16? Does she want to come back, but not know how? Is she afraid of returning because she knows that there’s no one left to recognize her?
What about Hera, who dedicated her entire life to a war that’s won? The ongoing struggle that defined her childhood, her teenage years, the first two decades of her adulthood is… over. The Republic she fought for, the Republic she gave everything to restore, is restored. How does she adjust to serving in peace? Does the reality of the New Republic compare to the ideal she did it all for? How does she look back on a whole life as a soldier, knowing that it can be over now, if she wants it to be? Is she even able to accept that it’s over, or is she constantly looking for the next threat, the hidden, upcoming war?
And Sabine, who sacrificed her teenage years to the Rebellion, probably her 20s to the Civil War, how does she deal with living on a Lothal that’s long since moved past the need for a protector, in a galaxy that’s completely unrecognizable without a battle to fight? Does she look back at the Rebellion, the Rebels years, as the good old days? Does the rest of her life feel empty and dull without the constant rush of a desperate, uphill war? How does she reconcile a New Republic without Mandalore? How does she feel about the future she always envisioned missing the people she rebelled for in the first place?
But no, Felony was like: Ahsoka sad :( and unemotional bc Vader. Hera smart and 💯% justified about Thrawn. Everyone else just stupid and hates her. Sabine conflicted bc Not Jedi & misses Ezra. Whole family dead 💀 but let’s not focus on that.
Like, come on.
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byler-is-endgame7 · 6 months
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y’all i think thrawn’s army of stormtroopers might be undead soldiers resurrected by the nightsisters 👀
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I never in my life, before season 3, though that I could like Crosshair more than Howzer but here I am…
I mean… they switched roles!
I always imagined Howzer as a kind, nice and “labrador vibes”
But now, he’s the grumpy, angry one.
The war, the empire really ruined my poor guy…
But Crosshair, is actually kinda nice to most people… okay maybe not “nice” but definitely better than then in the other seasons…
I totally get why Howzer is angry. But pls don’t be🥺
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kyberblade · 1 month
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I’m gonna enjoy watching Hemlock being eaten by a Lurca hound.
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Live thoughts on Bad Batch ep 9
Not even 5 minutes in and SHE'S HERE
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Some spoilers ahead warning!
Meanwhile, Ventress totally bodying Hunter, Wrecker and Crosshair at the same time like it's nothing
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I'm SO glad they went with her not being force sensitive, I don't think that would fit too well
also ALSO
"They can try, but I have a few lives left" QUEEN
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Asaaj is mother
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kiffobaby · 23 hours
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(Very Mild) SPOILERS:
Star Wars: The Bad Batch
Episode 9: The Harbinger
I have something to say about Mount Tantiss.
Here is a photo of Mount Tantiss;
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And here is a photo of Pabu in the most recent episode;
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When the episode first showed the shot of rainy Pabu, I did not even recognise it as Pabu for a fraction of a moment. I thought we had scene changed for a split second.
I could go in depth about the way the lighting and weather is reflecting our characters but I am not as articulate as some of you, and I know many will be talking about this (which is fantastic and I can't wait to see what you think). Just know that the lighting and shadows on characters is reflecting their headspace, and weather also brings atmospheric examples of the turmoil the characters are facing.
What I'm stuck on currently is how Pabu has parallels/shares similarities to Mt Tantiss.
On top of the visual comparison, to Crosshair and Omega, Pabu probably also feels like prison to a degree.
Omega had freedom to move around the same way she could on Tantiss, but doesn't have the freedom to actually go anywhere/do anything.
Omega feels that she left her brothers behind and that she could have done more. She is now on Pabu and feels she cannot do anything to help yet as she doesn't have answers and her brothers are protecting her.
Crosshair has more freedom than he did on Tantiss but as he is sticking with his brothers, he also cannot leave.
The others, to a degree, are also probably still watching him for signs of betrayal (betrayal is a strong word, deviance is probably better)
Even if they had a plan to help, they are essentially still 'trapped' here until they figure out what is happening with Megs and how to keep her safe.
Mt Tantiss to a degree has the same 'stuck on an island' feeling because the environment and wildlife outside of the main area you see the characters is dangerous. This keeps them in the one place, the same as being surrounded by ocean keeps you on the land.
I think the visual parallel is helping to remind us that while our characters are safe right at this moment, the Harbinger has only brought more uncertainty and insecurity.
My thoughts are all over the place right now so this may not make sense. I'm still processing the latest episode. But absolutely let me know what y'all think about this and if you can articulate your thoughts better.
And feel free to tell me all of your thoughts about everything.
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short-wooloo · 7 months
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No, The world between worlds is not in Rise of Skywalker
People will just come up with anything won't they?
Apparently it's a not too uncommon belief that the wbw is in ROS
Why?
Well, there seems to be 2 reasons given for why
1. Because during the final battle with Palpatine Rey looks up to the starry sky and hears voices...
Ok, this one is deeply rooted in "it looks/sounds the same therefore it is the same"
Additionally, this is not how the world between worlds works
The world between worlds is explicitly another dimension (and we'll cover how you even get there later) that has windows into different points in time, past and future, the people in said windows cannot interact with you because they exist in their own points in time
In ROS, Rey hears the voice of multiple deceased Jedi, people who she has never met, addressing her directly, that alone is proof that it is not the wbw (I mean there's a lot of easy definitive proof that this isn't the wbw because the basis for it being such is flimsy but I digress), because the wbw offers windows into the past/present/future, and more importantly, the people in those windows cannot interact with a person seeing them through the wbw
Furthermore, Rey communing with the deceased Jedi is a case of narrative payoff
In her first scene the film establishes that Rey has been trying to commune with the spirits of past Jedi, this scene is her finally accomplishing that goal, this isn't anything deeper, it's basic story structure, you set your protagonist up with a goal, and you have the achieve it at the climax/near the end
Reason 2.
Books
Frikken books
See, apparently because the one of the sacred Jedi texts talks about the wbw, that equals it being in the film
Now I actually own and have read the ROS visual dictionary, and here's what it has to say about the wbw:
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"Unattributed visualization of the chain wotlrlds theorem, also known as the world between worlds, or vergence scatter"
That's it, that's the full extent of the wbw being "in" ROS, it's never is brought up in the movie, we never read the book it's in, all we have is a visual dictionary saying "this page of this book has doodles of the wbw"
Also, something people really need to understand is that these books don't really mean anything
They're not hard immutable canon that the films must adhere to, they're written by different people from the movies often with little input between the two
Visual dictionaries don't really matter, they're just "books of neat facts"
By the way, this whole page is not something that should be taken at face value, it is noted here that these books are rich in metaphor a blend myth and history
So yeah, wbw ain't in ROS
So why do people want it to be in ROS?
So they can have a way to undo the sequels
(Thanks to @tarisilmarwen for this)
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Yeah, the wbw can't do that
That's kinda what the whole episode of Rebels is about, Ezra can't use it to change time, and why can't he do so? Well, because:
A. He doesn't know what will happen, butterfly effect and whatnot, the results could spiral out of control and he could just make things worse
B. Paradox, the bigger issue, if Ezra saves Kanan, well that means Kanan is no longer holding back the explosion, thus Sabine, Hera, and most importantly, Ezra himself will die
C. Its wrong to change time, it's fundamentally un-Jedi like, its taking the universe and countless lives and bending them to what you want, its selfish, that's not what the Jedi are, a true Jedi would never do this, to change time like this is what a sith would do
Which gets into
Temptation, the wbw is temptation for Ezra
That is the narrative purpose of the wbw in Rebels, it comes at a point where Ezra is at his lowest, its a test for him, will he remain true to the way of the Jedi? Or will he give in to the dark side?
But why he could save ahsoka?
Well here’s the thing, did he?  Did he save ahsoka?
Or was that always meant to happen?
See, saving ahsoka doesn't cause a paradox because we already knew ahsoka survived, we saw her reenter the malachor temple at the end of Season 2 (there’s a serious bit of revisionist history going on here where people either forget this or outright ignore this fact) she was already alive, Ezra didn’t change the past, he caused it to happen the way it happened, its a closed loop
“But what about Palpatine?”  Surely him trying to gain control over the wbw proves that you can in fact use it to change time right?
no
Palpatine’s attempt to control the wbw doesn’t mean it can change time
Palpatine certainly thinks he can rule time, but more importantly he doesn’t care if messing with time causes paradoxes or catastrophic consequences
Whether the rules regarding changing the past are soft (you can't change the past because you have no idea what will happen) or hard (you can't change the past because you'll create reality destroying paradoxes), Palpatine would do so anyways
Palpatine is fundamentally a selfish sociopathic person, he'll destroy everything if he can rule the ruins
And even if he can't alter time, the knowledge the wbw grants is dangerous, its a window into the past and future, using it Palpatine could have learned of the existence of the Skywalker twins early, or where surviving Jedi have hidden, or seen how he dies, Palpatine knowing these things could lead to disastrous consequences
Lastly we get to how one enters the wbw, (and why it's obvious that the wbw isn't in ROS)
For starters, you can't just accidentally end up in the wbw, as the claim for it being in ROS relies on, to get to the wbw, you need to be in the right place, and actively trying to get there
In Rebels Ezra enters the wbw through a gateway in the Lothal Jedi Temple
So yeah, you can't just stumble through it randomly
But more importantly, it's a Jedi Temple that he enters through, aka a place of the light
So why in God's name would you be able to just accidentally enter the wbw on exegol, aka sith cult planet?
The answer: you can't
(Also if a way into the wbw is on exegol why isn't Palpatine focusing on that?)
The wbw, a place that is specifically out of reach of the sith/dark side, has only ever been accessed through gateways in areas of the light
That's why Palpatine needed Ezra to get it, that's why he had to use a dark side ritual to try and capture Ezra and Ahsoka while they were in the wbw, he could effect them but not it, and of course it is why the wbw is not in Rise of Skywalker
Goodbye, and use critical thinking skills
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findafight · 1 month
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I think there's something deeply interesting about the Clone troopers learning Mando'a from the trainers, and passing that on to each other. It's probably not a full language, not at first. They only got the basics from the trainers, but they take loan words from Basic, and then from other worlds they're stationed on. It gets passed down to the shinies, evolving and changing quickly. It's a living language, and it has different accents, different words taken from different languages depending on where the troopers speaking it have been for the longest. It's not hidden, not really. The Jedi actively encourage it, though Kaminoans have never wanted it to spread. But it's a remarkable thing, how quickly it changes and how precious it is, for clones to have something that is It morphs into something unique and theirs.
And then, order 66 happens, and clone troopers are phased out and replaced by recruited, but some sources have them training together/training new recruits, and so they pick up on the language as a kind of military slang or code. But it's still a language, still taught and spoken, though more covertly, more carefully even as the clones are slowly decommissioned, but their language is passed on through imperial stormtroopers.
Even when the New Republic seems to have defeated the Empire, there's still Grand Moffs, there's still Stormtroopers, and the First Order rises. And yet somehow, stormtroopers keep this language alive, even though no one who speaks it now knows where it came from, or why only troopers speak it.
Eventually, all those kidnapped children grew up not knowing anything but the first order, and fear, and whispered words under bedcovers that the higherups can't understand. Sometimes they call them natborns and they don't know why. Sometimes they call each other vod'e and don't know why. They know what it means, (it means brother, means sister, means sibling, it means something deeper than that) but not why, not the how. They just know it's a secret. Some of them know songs, and some of them don't get a chance to learn them before they're heard by higherups and whoever knew it was reconditioned and it was lost.
When the First Order falls, troopers who escaped try to find their vod'e, find their family, and along the way they also find decedents of Clones, who speak a language similar to theirs. Who know the words that First Order troopers have only whispered to each other and speak them in the open with their families without fear. Who know all those songs that were so precious and dangerous and more. And they discovered their shared heritage, shared history, through the language the clones built for themselves.
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adh-d2 · 2 months
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On The Bad Batch's Final Season
Ok, ok, I am aware this sounds like a massive dose of copium but hear me out.
I've been prepared from the start for The Bad Batch to have a tragic ending. How could it not? We know what comes next. We know the Empire prospers. We know that Rex, Gregor and Wolffe end up alone, having given up the fight.
But just look at that release schedule:
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Not a peep of promo since the strike ended and all of sudden we're premiering within a month? With a three episode premier? And two extra multi-episode drops? And the series finale airs on May 1st?
It sure seems like they're determined to get the series concluded by May the 4th, doesn't it?
Now look at the episode titles:
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The Cavalry Has Arrived. That's an odd name for a series finale. There isn't exactly a sense of...finality to it. Compare it to the series finales of TCW and Rebels: 'Victory and Death'. 'Family Reunion and Farewell'. 'The Cavalry Has Arrived'.
I'm telling you, they're gearing up for a May the 4th announcement of something, and that something will be directly related to the Bad Batch's fate.
I have no idea what it will be. A new series? A movie? Something else entirely?
Now obviously, even if this is true it doesn't mean we won't get a hefty dose of tragedy. I still expect a number of my favourite characters to die. But a number of my favourite characters survived The Clone Wars, and that ending was bleak. This time, it's starting to feel like they're gearing up for something hopeful. Like maybe (just maybe) this won't be the last time we get to watch the clones fighting the good fight.
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kanansdume · 7 months
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The only way I will accept Ezra as Marrok the Inquisitor is if he's on some kind of long con where he's just pretending to infiltrate Thrawn's followers in an attempt to keep them from ever bringing Thrawn back and the entire con depends on people thinking he's still missing or dead so he can't contact his friends and family to tell them he's alive or he risks his entire operation.
I refuse to accept a genuinely evil or dark Ezra, I REFUSE. This show is full of enough character assassination as it is, leave Ezra alone.
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