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elenaferrante · 2 years
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I stg every time I listen to little evermore, I literally get legit tears in my eyes when I hear taylor sing: “I swear you were there” 🥺
The way she thought and dreamed about him (“when I was shipwrecked / I thought of you / in the cracks of light / i dreamed of you”) when everything was falling apart… “When she lay there on the ground / she dreamed of […] / a love that was really something / not just the idea of something,” and then, “when she stood […] / standing broad-shouldered next to her / was a love that was really something.” It was real enough to get her through because it wasn’t just the idea of something.
He was there.
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maria-eve-falcon · 10 months
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I think she understood his anxieties, you can hear in her songs over the years and I think just from what we know of her as a person... I think she got tired of waiting for him to do something and decide what he wanted in his life... And you can say that him not deciding has to do with his anxieties, but I think she understood him and just waited as long as she could...
sorry I didn't answer early.. I had this answer in my mind but I was(am) to0 tired.
precaution : it's gonna be long and there will be out of this particular topic disclosure because idk why a box inside was opened by this
so.. while I get people when they say she waited too long (bit skeptical) we can't blame anyone (this is making me cry wow parasocial much?) and:
they both of mental issues as we know . god knows what was their position in times. normal people without any issues (almost everyone has issues cause 'perfect' is just not a thing) can't commit easily , famous people with issues having a hard time is really normal. commitment is big. it's not just a piece of paper (imo)
I can't blame joe at all here. cause look at the position he was in. his career kickstarted and he was with her. something very unsimilar with her other exes. so, he doesn't have a career close to the people that debuted with him / close to the time he did i.e liz debici (they won a chopard together ) . he doesn't have enough press (lmfao billy lynn had the record for most press(if not collectively) with him until recently ), nominations and stability what so far judging that he is a decent actor (you can disagree for sure but he IS a decent actor objectively (even when miscast) )
I understand he doesn't want fame and hoards of money doesn't mean he doesn't want a stable career ( while tay's is 740 million a year! that's a load even after paying for everyone and everything! (idk why I pointed this out) )(acting is not a stable career choice it self but I bet he wants to have some kind of stability before at least marriage) AND he has to calculate his every word and action since the beginning .
this is gonna sound mean but do you think tay's position screams suitable for marriage and babies? I'm sorry but she is the position (was before the tour too!) where she literally is on top of the world ! ( yeah I wrote this after the people's article so I'm angry) to get married now and gain a load of attention FOR IT, is sure to be overwhelming for an actor like joe who grew up pretty normal. posh , but normal. I'm sorry but she hasn't step down at all! (not her fault but.. not his either)
considering everything I just pointed out lame excuses (this is gonna get ugly so buck up) what about her picking fights? (when you are in love, you fight but don't pick them?! ) for example afterglow, false god. she even said she knows it's her fault but wants HIM to apologize first. (i'm a person who used to always apologize first and boy, at a point you don't care and distance yourself from those who keep making ya do that (that's how my rtl with my 8 year long bestie ended, fucking exhausting I tell ya) ) ALSO when SHE broke HIS heart first! sorry but my man is human!
ok , fuck all I said . even judging by ylm , I'm assuming with pressure to work on his career or not he couldn't read her mind cause surprise! he is human! they just needed to talk about where they were or what she actually wanted but clearly she didn't understand that.
also about letting go. do you really think a woman who is still writing songs about jm (something that happened 13 years ago) AND INDICATING ENOUGH THAT IT'S ABOUT HIM KNOWING WHAT HER FANS ARE LIKE , going as far to dress up like she was in the vma's literally a decade ago and announcing her new album on the bday of some guy's ex wife (who every one is done dragging for the last 3 years) on mtv music awards is letting go? that thing icked me soo hard . what is growing up is confusing to me since midnights announce. she needs to stop these little clues to diss people that are perfectly fine with their lives and don't care at all! it just shows she loves dragging things and can't let go or be cool about it after soo many years!(nothing else!) and worst part is she makes it obvious that it's about them. now it has come to the point where it is just a stupid topic for everyone to make fun of. her pain surrounding jm and kanye has been dragged for soo long by none other than her and her fans that either people just roll their eyes and move on or it's just a joke atp!!!!!!!!!!!!
tl;dr : I just made 7 points of why joe might have not proposed to her and was stressing about doing so.
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the-hushed-one · 10 months
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We almost know the reason of the swiftwyn breakup.
Now that you think of it, Taylor's friends, especially Ryan and Gigi and also Abigail unfollowing Joe on Instagram was quite absurd.
Like Joe didn't even do something wrong. Joe was frirnds with Gigi before he knew Taylor. And Ryan wrote in that article that Joe and him were pretty good friends. I'm pretty sure his kids refer of referred to him as uncle Joe (Which is cute)
Them unfollowing Joe like this was quite stupid. Didn't they know that this kind of mass unfollowing can have such a big affect on the pr and stuff? This move basically encouraged the cheating rumours about Joe.
Instead of just choosing sides, they should've been supportive of the both of them. I get it that they were better friends with Taylor than with Joe, but they all did such a high school act as if Joe did something wrong.
Was Taylor trying to get back at Joe? Idk, but this was such a mean and a rude and a bad move.
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biwifesquad · 1 year
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Long Story Short / The Great War
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imacrispian · 2 years
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Joe really said 'if i give even so much as the tip of my little finger, you hoes will literally take my entire arm'
And he's right.
And it's sad it has so be this way. 😔
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loatheyoulately · 5 months
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I am so fucking grateful that she's dating a man I don't find insufferable it's been 2000 years
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bisluthq · 2 years
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hey nat I made a compilation of all the cute taylor and joe moments at the funeral for the bisluts lol.
and before anyone comes for me with the "it was a funeral be respectful!!! 🙄" I watched the entire thing and it had very uplifting vibes. they were celebrating his life so there were a lot of smiles (btw he was a complete badass, what a king). his wife valerie is such a perfect match btw she matches his king energy with queen energy and is just incredible!!! so yeah don't come for me this is the first time since...ever that we get joe and taylor interacting on video and doing mundane things (the video is almost 3 minutes long so this is the longest we've seen them do it too lol) so let me have this!!
That’s a cute video lmao!
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youareinlovees · 1 year
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maria-eve-falcon · 1 year
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Finally found a blog that can sympathize with Joe. Love Taylor and sure they are both going through some terrible heartache. But I think this impact Joe the most. We are in no place to speak on someone else’s mental health but at least we know he has anxiety. And rumors of him withdrawing from her leading up to tour, the noticeable weight gain and baggy eyes in movie premieres, I think there’s more than we know.
I’ve been through a withdrawal period before because I was feeling like I was a failure. Lots of restless nights, weight gain, self isolation and feeling worthless. I took a break from everyone to heal and learn to love myself again. So I can kinda relate to him why he wanted a break. Everyone cope differently and we cannot fault them for how they chose to do it. We all have our own demons to fight.
We do not know what goes behind closed doors. But based on facts given, I am comfortable to say he is a gentle, sweet, caring soul, does not read into tabloids, brought up loyal and kind by his mother(according AOTGYLB). Never used her name to gain fame and is a very private person. How can people say he intentionally leaked this out? The breakup is the last thing he would ever want to go public.
If he cared about the imbalance in their fame status, he would be going for commercial movies instead, not indie type films. I just don’t like how he is being portrayed as a person through these news outlet. It’s very dehumanizing to do.
Ikr! thanks for all this. I remember his quote about wanting to be seen as a human.
You are right. His newest pics are really bad. Like his hair is weird, he has defs gained weight campared to his physic just some months ago.
Tbh, the biggest thing is Tay has her fans, her songs, her friends and family with her.
Joe is somewhere else far away from home as speculated and maybe before the breakup, means he's been alone when it happened and is rn . He has to change his musical taste, even his fav band might be hurting him . His friends and family are away. All he has is some co workers he doesn't know very well. Idk if that's good, or bad. Cause how much you'd want nothing to remind you of the absence of your loved one, you just kinda need someone who knew your relationship with them.
Also about the GOD DAMN ARTICLES. It's impossible trust me. And why would they do that? Likeeeeee his team should be outta questions imo cause well, his team is too lowkey to do that. like the possibility is just 0.001%
Moreover, we should support them both. The breakup is the wort thing that could happen to them and it is done.
So instead of blaming and hating, we just need to support them. Imo. This is that type of a break up you can't blame anyone.
All we can do is love and pray and be positive and wish for the best.
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maria-eve-falcon · 11 months
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somedays I wake up and think
if tay said the things in "you're loosing me" to joe before they broke up... things could've been different.
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elenaferrante · 2 years
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something happened for the first time in the darkest little paradise > sacred new beginnings that became my religion > we’d still worship this love even if it’s a false god > your faithless love is the only hoax I believe in > it was real enough to get me through
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maria-eve-falcon · 1 year
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Still hoping to get up in the morning and seeing the news that they never broke up. And hoping my tears were all just wasted.
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maria-eve-falcon · 10 months
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ok soo please please please stop to whomever says swiftwyn's love wasn't warm or safe or secure please. it's not her fault for having insecurities when she finally found a person she could see a future with and those are sure to come out in her songs.
lines like , "who could stay?" , "is it enough?" , "can I go where you go? can we always be this close?" (i never thought these lover lines could mean insecurities but it makes sense that they kinda do), " deep fears that the world would divide us"
can't erase lines like , "never thought I'd meet you here like it could be love ", "all's well that end well to end up with you, swear to be over dramatic and true" , " silence that only comes when two people understand each other" , "he built a fire just to keep me warm"
Also
a reminder that
This was indeed a beautiful relationship once, it didn't work out and in the future both of them will find something like this, even more beautiful than this who knows, but this relationship they had will always have an impact and will always matter no matter what others say about it now , no matter how things turned out.
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maria-eve-falcon · 1 year
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I have a conspiracy theory that they are just taking a break and just letting the media and us believe that it's over for good. And maybe this was really leaked beyond their control, then proceeded to just let it be.
They did hid their relationship for a solid 8 months before the world find out. Jake and Taylor were on and off for months, we didnt know. So it can be the case. Plus she is touring, its the perfect time for Joe to work. Im not delusional haha I have accepted the break up, but i just have a weird feeling.
I also have this feeling tbh. I also think some day they'll be seen together and suddenly we'll realize that they were on a break or something.
But then there is people magazine and Tree, it can't just be a bad leak yk. Idk. Idk what o believe. Heck I don't believe myself. And tbh I can't believe tay would be so ok in her performances but then again she is a great performer.
dk truth anymore. Maybe I'm just too sad. Because it all happened when I was the most vulnerable. It made me think he worst cause the worst is just happening everywhere. So. Tbh if it happened a month ago, I would have nt been ok, but better than this limp state.
Idk what to believe. So I believe everything and nothing.
I just want to see them happy
(Sorry, it’s off point. I'm a mess)
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maria-eve-falcon · 1 year
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I hope Joe can return soon to London with his family and friends because when a break up happens all your world is shattered and that's so sad, also I saw some people being mean to Joe (I really don't know why) and that could affect him too.
You know, yes to all these. The articles, i hope he doesn't read. I mean when he was with tay, he strictly didn't read them. Now that they're alone, babacally e is completely left to himself physically, I'm afraid he'll read them.
Idk how long the brutalist will film there and if they'll get breaks. last ime Tay was with him duringa long shoot like this in belfast and Croatia. Heck, I bet he is reminded of her absence in Budapest. This is maybe the first time in years they are not together for a long time. Since like rep tour.
Idk how I could comprehend this alone.
I can't imagine to be alone at a time like this. But no matter what you do is...sad. if he goes home to his family it'll remind him of her. That house, the rental house eveything. The absence will be present. Heck even with his friends it'll be present.
But when we are with our loved ones we do feel better. So I really really hope he goes home. And takes care of himself well. I hope his family is constantly with him on the phone or any other way.
But imo, even if my family was with me at a situation like this, I wouldn't be ok at all. Let alone be fine. I'll be reminded all the time .
But then again staying alone would hurt more.
What do Ik? I'm only 17. All Ik is I miss them
So,
I just hope he'll be fine and maybe alright soon. I hope he'll be happy .
The both of them actually.
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maria-eve-falcon · 1 year
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When you said the thing about The National… I’ve been thinking about it since the news came out. Like that was THEIR BAND😭
Please...please god I know.
It was THEIR BAND.
And tay working with Aaron and Matt doesn't help.
They have to find new friends
They (specially he) will have to find new songs/music taste, artist.
They'll have to find the new "paper rings" person.
Their families have to break. They'll have to find new daughter/son (afaik they were really really close) the worst is I think mama alwyn and mama swift's part. Like....specially imma miss liz supporting her.
They'll have to think life all over again. cause what they knew as home is gone.
They'll have to change things drastically . The things they built steadily, slowly, thoughtfully, lovingly in 6 years.
They have to change it mere months.
can anyone forget?
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