#take me to rome

[thunderc1an]

Hold me one more time, so that I never forget how it felt to hug the sun

#warrior cats #warriors #thunderclan #firestar #sandstorm #firesand #I should’ve probably waiting to take the picture in the morning #so that the lighting would be better #but I loved how it came out #so I’m posting anyways #also sorry for the increase of #firesand content #just been thinking about them a lot recently #drew these with cheap color pencils #9 colors in total- but it was fun being limited yknow #i drew it on a 3 hour bus ride from Pompeii to Rome yay #in my dorm I have this super fancy color pencil set I got for my birthday #like senior year hs #but couldn’t bring it with me on the trip

[catominor]

did someone say sulla and his harem of guys.

(from left to right: pompey, metellus pius, crassus, sulla, lucullus)

#my art #posting this in the middle of the night when no one is online cause i just finished it but. i will reblog it again later whatever #i did something different with my sulla this time based him more on the coin portrait #i think my favorite face in this is metellus i just like his expression #since we dont know what he looked like this is mostly based on my vague recollection of the metellus image in masters of rome cause #i like it. you also get blonde pompey because of masters of rome I KNOWW controversial take but he has blonde man vibes to me so. #crassus is based on the old man maybe-crassus statue i tried to like. de-age it and based the face off that. crassus was by FAR the hardest #to like. decide on what he should look like but im alright with this crassus #lucullus is just kind of vibes based every lucullus Take ive seen has him with sort of a long thin face and i like that so. i kinda took #that into the rest of him & made him tall and thin . #oh Also . ive always interpreted sullas 'red and white complexion' as rosacea so thats the take. this drawing sadly not really my sexiest #sulla though. ill draw him again sometime. and he Will be sexier next time if i can help it.

[companion-showdown]

Who is the Greatest Accomplice to the Doctor's War Crimes?

TOURNAMENT MASTERPOST

#greatest accomplice: quarters #okay hear me out #its still vicki #i know i know #but the romans okay #the tardis takes them to ancient rome FOR A HOLIDAY #they have a relaxing time in a town outside rome FOR MONTHS #before vicki is like 'Doctor i'm bored' #'you promised me adventure' #'doctor please can we go to actual rome' #'please please please' #'ian and barbara don't want to go but we can' #and then they find a dead body #and decide TOGETHER that the doctor should impersonate him #and they go to rome and vicki befriends the palace poisoner #and is roundly amused when she thinks she accidentaly poisoned nero #and then they give nero the idea for the great fire of rome #get out of their sharpish #and laugh together as they watch a city burn #if you believe the tardis deliberatey put the doctor in situations where he'll do war crimes #the TARDIS did not intend this #no way #it was all vicki and the doctor getting up to shenanagins #if you've not seen the romans you just have to trust me okay #and if you have and still want to vote tardis #just know that you are wrong #i am rooting for vicki for the whole tournament #she is THE accomplice #its not even close for me

[clodiuspulcher]

today im thinking about malaria in ancient rome.

about the fact that P. falciparum (the most dangerous kind of malaria) was likely endemic at least from the 2nd century BC onward that Galen said semitertian fevers (P. falciparum infections) were more common in Rome than anywhere else in the Roman Empire that the most severe manifestations of P. falciparum (quotidian fevers + cerebral malaria) were most common in babies and young children, an epidemiological observation that indicates the transmission rate of P. falciparum was extremely high in Rome that Quintus Serenus said there was no Latin word for semitertian fevers (they used a transliteration of the Greek, 'hemitritaeos') because "no one, i think, could have named it in our language and mothers would not have wanted to"

#working on my thesis gonna bring down the mood of the whole department #but i feel like i have to honor them #and the thing about malaria that fucks me up is P. falciparum has been around for tens of thousands of years #its not a disease of agriculture like smallpox or of sanitary issues that come with civilization like typhoid #it predates agriculture its been found in the bodies of mummies from ancient egypt and skeletons from ancient greece and rome #there are species-specific plasmodium parasites for gorrillas chimpanzees and humans #which to me indicates there was a plasmodium parasite for every now lost hominid #malaria is the strongest recent evolutionary pressure on the human genome #upwards of 30% of people in some parts of the world are heterozygous for sickle cell anemia #or heterozygous for SE asian ovalocytosis #thus it was more evolutionarily advantageous for 2-3% of all children to die #so about 30% of people could be protected from severe malaria #these mutations take a long time to evolve. parasites take a long time to evolve #there are people who mourned their infants tens of thousands of years ago in languages we will never know with rituals we will never see #and i cant do anything about any of that but i can keep going to the lab every day and trying my best to figure it out #because so many generations of humans stretching back to before we were human could not

[extraaa-30]

broke: crowley tempted the senate to stab caesar

woke: crowley tempted the senate to stab caesar because aziraphale was upset about the library of alexandria

bespoke: aziraphale was in rome as part of the arrangement. he's the one who tempted the senate to stab caesar (and ten billion burned books cried out for vengeance) 😇📚😌🔪

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*yes i know this was pre-arrangement but for the sake of unhinged delight no it wasn't

post inspired by this art

#baroque: it wasn't even az's turn to tempt. crowley got a commendation & went to investigate like #what human nonsense am i taking credit for now? #only to find aziraphale chilling in rome #eating oysters. living his best life #crowley: oh hey angel. did you hear they stabbed caesar? #az: ah. how terrible #random senator: here's your knife back mr. fell! thanks again for letting me borrow it! #az: ... #crowley: ... #az: lOOK if anything it was a SMITING who tf burns down a library???!? #go #good omens #ineffable husbands #aziracrow #ides of march #happy ides of march #belatedly #extraaa

[brookheimer]

Do you think the Logan abuse allegations might go into CSA territory? Unlike a lot of people I’m not 100% convinced roman experienced this, but people are speculating on Twitter that accusations of Logan’s physical and emotional abuse will snowball into CSA territory. If that’s the case I’d certainly imagine Logan was complicit rather than an abuser himself (if anyone probably uncle Mo?), but nevertheless shocking if it does come out

oooh i have a lot of thoughts about this actually!

personally, i'm with you -- i'm in the minority of people who don't think roman CSA is as good as canon, primarily because i don't think it needs to be in order for him to make sense. i think it's definitely possible and would certainly fit with his character, but a lot of people frame CSA as, like, The Explainer to roman roy which i just find kind of silly and cheap. people act like that's the only possible way he could turn out the way he has, and not only is that just blatantly untrue, it's also a pretty strange, diminishing narrative -- the way people talk about it really sounds like they're saying Well If You Have Sexual Dysfunction You Only Make Sense If Someone Molested You As A Child, which is just... not quite how things work. obviously, it's a reason someone might have those issues, but it certainly isn't the only one. i can write another post later on why i think rome makes sense outside of CSA if people want, but rn i'll just focus specifically on why i'm not convinced that CSA will become explicitly relevant to roman's character, especially not in relation to logan (and why i personally kinda hope that isn't the direction they take)

more under the cut!

for one thing just personally really doubt succession would make anything that explicit, that clear cut. like, i really don't think there's going to be a scene confirming or denying whether roman experienced CSA. and, as you said, i don't think logan was the abuser himself but i could see him covering it up for mo. maybe. i don't know. i don't know! it feels a little weird to me, honestly, just knowing logan's obsession with having power over his kids, his disgust at roman's grossness, and his blatant homophobia, it feels somewhat hard for me to conceptualize him not giving a shit about a colleague of his assaulting his son. i don't think he'd care for the right reasons, but i think he'd view it as either a) an attack on him and a disturbing power play -- you think you can take my kids out from under me? you think you can fucking control them? you?], b) absolutely fucking disgusting like the most sicko-ness of sickos -- not only are you attracted to m*n you're attracted to my weak little fuck of a son? what the fuck's wrong with you? are you not a man?, or c) both. like, idk. i just find it really hard to imagine that's something he would take lying down -- not out of protectiveness for roman but out of personal offense or pure disgust. i don't think he'd out it to the world or anything, he has his company to protect, but i think mo or whoever would definitely be cut out and shushed with hush money or something. which is still complicit, sure, but it isn't like i think logan would have actively turned a blind eye, which seems to be the prevailing opinion. it just... it doesn't fit from what we know of logan.

also, CSA is like.... it's inarguably bad. like, obviously. but succession thrives in realms of nuance. logan is abusive and horrible but you understand him. if you try to, you really can understand him. it doesn't excuse or justify anything, but he has a very human mindset that stops him from being, like, straight-up Evil. every succession character is a human before anything else, no one's a caricature (except maybe for s4 greg, but i'm withholding judgment there for now). succession fails if any character's deeds outweigh their humanity. no one is hitler. everyone thinks they're doing the best that they possibly can, including logan. that's why brian cox says logan's issue is he loves his kids too much -- he gets shit on for saying that, because i mean it does sound batshit, but i do get what he's saying. logan does not like his kids but he does love them. the reason he's so awful to them is because he loves them -- not in the sense that 'love is abuse' or whatever i'm about to get angry asks yelling ab, but because the only reason logan can't just let them go off and be disappointments is because he loves them. his abuse is not out of pure malevolence. it's because he wants them to become people they fundamentally aren't. that's what it comes down to. it's not just Evil Dad Hates Kids. logan wants so desperately for his children to become real people, people he can like and respect and trust and rely on, but they aren't those people, and that's something he's been entirely incapable of accepting. his abuse is an attempt to mold and to change and to fix, not just to punish. that's why the "i love you, but you are not serious people" was such an important line -- in some senses, it kind of was the end of logan's arc. it made a lot of sense for him to die there. where else could he go? he finally admitted what he'd known deep down all along: his children will never be the people he wants or needs them to be. no amount of pressure or competition or carrot-dangling will change that. he loves them, but they are not serious people.

that's why Logan CSA Committer/Allower feels really hard to imagine, both from a character standpoint and from a succession one in general — making logan an official CSA Allower would make it really, really hard for him to maintain the same kind of humanity and nuance he has as a character, which is rooted in the fact that logan doesn't hate his kids or want them to suffer. he wants them to become the peak of masculinist capitalism and none of them are capable of it. so if anything, he'd be furious at anyone who assaulted his kids because it would push them further from that ideal -- it would make them Wrong. if a boy were to be forced into sexual submission at a young age by an older man, they'd never be able to become that capitalistic ideal of masculinity; they're already fundamentally wrong. logan's anger would be directed both at the boy (roman) and at the man who forced it on him. but, to me, it seems like much of logan's anger with roman stems from his genuine lack of understanding as to how the fuck roman ended up like this -- how could a son of his end up like this? it's a personal failing for logan, one that he can't puzzle out. what did he do so wrong for roman to become the antithesis of literally everything logan stands for? i feel like if roman were a CSA victim and logan knew, he would probably... i don't know, try less to fix him. it's fucking awful, but i kind of feel like logan would find roman to be Tainted already and want to just shove him somewhere he doesn't have to look at him. but we see time and time again logan genuinely trying to squeeze the wrongness out of roman -- that's where his abuse of rome stems from, not so much molding him into the Right person as it is unmolding him out of being Wrong (bc only then can he do his ken/shiv tactics to mold him into being an heir) -- and try to understand in his misguided, cruel, offensive way what exactly is wrong with roman. i think if he knew, he wouldn't bother. he wouldn't ask, like "are you scared of pussy, son?" and "are you a sicko?" and call him gay slurs and all of that, because i think that would be too close to the truth he can't bear to acknowledge. just like how he pretends he had never and would never hit roman, even though he has, multiple times, both as a child and an adult. he wouldn't directly address something that brings shame to him, and having his son be the victim of CSA would indeed bring him a great deal of shame (not guilt, but shame). so, like, while it's true that logan's relationship with roman could be founded primarily in CSA-driven misdirected anger and victim blaming, i just again don't think that's necessary for their relationship to make sense, and that the nuances of their relationship almost make me feel like that's not the case either.

i also just personally think roman would maybe be more interesting were he not a CSA victim -- if it's confirmed that he is, everyone will be like Whelp Roman Solved! like, that would be all that's needed to explain him (or at least that's how people would act). and that would be such a fucking shame, man. i just think that there are a decent number of people in the world who have dysfunction not dissimilar to roman's who also aren't CSA victims and really, really struggle to figure out what exactly made them this way, especially when the entire world is acting like the only possible cause is CSA. and there are portrayals of CSA on television and in media. but... i can't think of anyone else like roman. i think him not having CSA and his dysfunction stemming instead from less obvious, more subtle-ly debilitating power dynamics and narratives of masculinity/sex would just be much more interesting, as even if succession handled his CSA with care, the majority of people would just see it as well, case closed, finally we understand roman. as if he isn't already perfectly understandable without it. maybe i'm just really biased as someone who thankfully did not experience CSA but seemingly inexplicably ended up quite similar to roman in a lot of ways, as someone who actually gets to feel a little more normal for once because of roman's abnormality. i just think there's a lot more to sex and sexual dysfunction than media often presents, because many storylines and characters are just very easy cause and effect relationships (CSA --> sexual dysfunction, rape --> hypersexuality, etc etc etc) when in reality there are so many ways that even tiny things could build up over time and end up manifesting in really detrimental ways. you can have a bad relationship with sex before ever having it, because sex is about soooo much more than the actual act of sex. and succession is about life and mirroring it, not creating easily understandable characters and narratively satisfying conclusions. so, yeah, i guess i don't know if succession will go down the CSA route, because that just feels... a little easy to me, maybe, when it doesn't need to be. not saying CSA is a bad plot point or anything, but that it is something depicted (and unfortunately often sensationalized) on television a lot, whereas characters with inexplicable sexual hangups are not.

i definitely hope this season delves further into roman's sexual dysfunction, but i'm kind of hoping it doesn't just explain it all away as Well He Was A Victim Of CSA, bc i think a) roman makes sense without it, b) the logistics of it happening relating to logan feel murky and confusing, c) succession isn't the type of show to outright Explain Things (and thank god), and d) there are a lot of people, i think, who have issues with sex they don't understand or that they don't 'deserve' to have, and i've never seen another character in any media that's depicted like that, although i have seen explorations into CSA.

sorry this was so long, but as i said, many fucking thoughts!!

#as always the thing about sending me asks is that chances are it will take me 4ever to respond but when i do it will be a fucking essay #if ppl want to know why i think rome makes sense without needing CSA as a backdrop i can write about that too at some point #tw csa #tw child abuse #tw sa #please let me know if there's anything yall want me to tag #succession #roman roy #logan roy #(ended up talking so mcuh ab logan here. can't believe i wrote fucking logan meta) #succession meta #casey shut the fuck up about roman roy #anon #asks

[yohankang]

not to be emotional on main but my granparents are on their first ever trip abroad they could afford on their own and they sent me a picture from the airport and okay maybe i am emotional

#i said first ever they could afford bc they were on one trip before but my mom and uncle paid for that #they've been living off my granpa's pension only for so many years. and they've never had a lot of money anyway #because our dear country told my grandma her work doesn't count and she won't get any pension <3 but my mom fought hard for it #and my grandma was granted pension this year!!!! so their income doubled and that's like. mindblowing for them #and we convinced them to go on a holiday and now they're on a plane to italy with my uncle :') it was their dream to see rome #and i'm sitting here like. I LOVE YOU YOU DESERVE IT SO MUCH PLEASE TAKE LOTS OF PICTURES #AHHHHHHH #yeah i got teary eyed :') #also my other grandma!!! just texted me saying she loved the japanese book i gave her and also clowned our government in one message lmao #i'm just full of love for them tonight #k.txt

[beholdingslut]

ten thousand words off completing nanowrimo and today i realised i keep putting octavia places i want her to be and not where she should've been (in athens raising her children). you would THINK historical fiction would be easy because you already know what's going to happen but in fact it is hard because you already know what's happened

#GOOGLE SEARCH ENGINE TELL ME HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET FROM ATHENS TO ROME CIRCA 36 BC

[spinninglightning]

whenever i read fics i always end up thinkin of a song for the fic or like, th chapter and then i canr stop associating the fic w/ those songs

#i listen to sm fckn music tht all the songs end up bein wildly diff too #ong i cld make playlists for multi ch fics #*stares at electric rebels* #actually u know what #i will #here r some songs: #our song by matchbox twenty is (early ch) electric rebels treemina coded #butterfly by bts (song is abt the fear of losing a person and in electric rebels this is very much true #everyone has the fear of not only losing their lives but losing their family(+found) as well #time is very much sacred n stuff like that) #humming by turnover (thr lyrics “with you ill make it out alive” sold me on this one) #viva la vida by coldplay specifically for the capital students because of how disillusioned theyve become due to the games #and forming relationships w/ their tribute #really good examples are vipsania and hilarius #rhythm of love by plain white t's makes me think of all the good moments treech n lamina have had despite their circumstances #(its also just a them song in general) #young volcanoes by fall out boy for the tributes!!! it seems light a more lighthearted victory song almost? #a “we will persevere” thing but more full of complete happiness #think abt the scene of teslee mizzen n treech running down the hill in jubilation (obvs before shit went down) #would that i by hozier just makes me think of when treech first met lamina up in the tree #which witch by florence + the machine is definitely for vipsania just before & after the bombing (aspen too but to a lesser degree almost) #“whos a heretic now” “im miles away hes on my mind” yeahhhh #love grows (where my rosemary goes) by edison lighthouse is jst a rlly good treemina song #rousseau by nerina pallot is a good fpr one of the main questions in the fic “are we really born free?” #(no. theyre not they have to work for that freedom. rousseaus main theory specifically the idea of it works really well for this fic #and the hunger games in general) #the promise by when in rome seems to work especially for treech and how he interacts with the others #he always seems to make promises - that theyll live - that he wont leave - that hell take care of the living for the deceased #this ended up sm longer than intended i reached the TAG LIMIT #basil.txt

[pensymbols]

if u believe that jason grace is lame gtfo this is NOT safe space for you

#everytime someone claims hes a boring character and a blank canvas i losd up a gun and #like jason ISNT a boring character hes actually incredibly interesting #but rick riordian fucking hates his guts and refuses to give him anythin #like genuinely #like first of all jason getting his memory wiped but hes never able to regain them??? #so despite people knowing WHO he was and him having the general feeling of knowing who he is he genuienly cannot remember shit #and those memory problems persist all the way up throughout toa #second of all his general past?? #like the grace siblings had such good backstories in the sense they were intriguing and actually defined everything and every choice they #-make #like jason who was proclaimed as heras/junos since he was born stolen from thalia who was raising him and she cant wver find him again and #-so she assumes shes dead and being reluctant to take in annabeth whos supposed to be around her baby brothers age #that shits peak #and then theres jason who was raised by wolves and then eventually found his way to new rome where he was only ever seen as jupiters son or #junos champion and he was only ever going to be the praetor and no one there truly saw jason for who he is #like thats PEAK #AND DONT GET ME STARTED ON THE JASON VS PERCY THING BCS A) I THINK ITS DUMB AND B) ITS STUPID #also rick DOES hate jason grace bcz they killed his character long before toa when thwy tried to make jason more like zeus so the rivalry- #-could make more sense #pjo #percy jackson and the heroes of olympus #jason grace #percy jackon and the olympians #heros of olympus #trials of apollo

[pachyderm-matchmaker]

i am having thoughts about jason grace being given up to appease hera and the text making that more literal. like--

jason grace as the champion of juno, more than the son of jupiter, because when jupiter gave him up, he gave him up. jason doesn’t care about his parent, he cares about his patron. jason grace with the tattoo of a peacock feather!!

jason grace who refuses to use his powers because he isn’t a child of jupiter. jason grace who instead has juno’s blessing, in politics and relationships and aaaaaaaaaah

#jason grace #heroes of olympus #percy jackson #LISTEN #chosen family!! your parent does not determine your legacy!! #plus just like. the character potential #his background in new rome? #of course he ends up in the 5th. of course they scorn him #(a champion of juno? a child of jupiter who refutes his heritage and won't use his powers?) #& of course he rises to praetor #one of juno's domains is POLITCS!! #& in rome--war!!! #'people expect me to be a hero bc my dad is king' fuck off #'people expect me to be a hero bc my dad is king of the gods but i ALREADY CHOSE OTHERWISE' #'so they expect me to be weak BUT I AM STILL A HERO' #HELLO?! #plus parallel w piper #& the whole unpacking the stereotypes rick wrote into aphrodite & femininity #giving more nuance to rick's portrayal of hera #& THEN HERA TAKING AWAY HIS MEMORIES-- #(it must break her heart! she's let herself care about 1 demigod!) #of COURSE he uses his powers bc he doesn't remember why not! #& it feels wrong but he keeps doing it! #& then once he gets his memory back--what then! #& the RELATIONSHIP w hera #like THAT keeps the question of 'are the gods using their children' #bc #godDAMN the complexity #also this jason meeting hercules--

[sofitai28]

excerpts from richard siken’s “wishbone” that i might finish at some point. idk i was trying something new lmao

#the inconsistency of the color and texture drive me nuts but whatever #this isn’t even my favorite siken poem #anyways second semester of uni! terrified. #taking a third year classics course about Rome #and i am a wee first year who fixates more on Greece so we’ll see how that goes #so fucking stressed about it guys #maybe my mom (and friend) are right #maybe I should go to therapy #alas #richard siken #wishbone #poetry #art ig #enjoy

[keiksy-cake]

After a long time of procrastinating via Minecraft and sobbing heavily internally while translating, I've finally finished Holy Rome's page! :'D

The panel text was taken from previous chapters btw

Revisions: "younger brother/Germany (many others)" to "brothers/saxony, bavaria, many others, (self-proclaimed number one) big brother/prussia"

"He just wanted to make that happen, but that desire never reached anyone." to "He just wanted to make that happen..."

"Rome" to "Roman empire" x2

all collezione pages

[Please note, I’m actually an amateur in Japanese and have to use various resources and translation machines to help me. If you notice a possible mistake or want clarification, please bring it up to me *politely* and not aggressively or hostile.]

#hetalia #hetalia collezione #aph hre #aph holy rome #aph holy roman empire #aph chibitalia #my friend asked me to translate this a while ago but i forgot then got readdicted to minecraft sorry #genuinely almost cried fr goodness I'm such a lost cause #but mostly just cried internally this was extremely painful #also thank you hima for the amazing redraws!! #also also this reminded me a lot of that one prussia doujin impermanence which also added to my pain #another also but a more literal translation could be bloodline to germania and germany but don't take my word for it!!

[criminalskies]

also big life update I am officially OUT of my stuck-in-the-hospital era! I now live in a house like a total normie. my leg will heal but I will never forget my time there.

#thank you all for getting me through it #no lie I would probably be dead by now or have some raging infection out of pure spite #I had nothing to live for but you guys are so kind to me #you’ve shown me real friendship and kindness and no wound to my spirit can take that away #Rome is being sappy on main again

[crunchycrystals]

rereading the pjo series with the new athens headcanon in mind its really strange that its not canon like it fits percy and annabeth's characters perfectly and allows people like piper to stay at camp half-blood forever without having to move to new rome. like in canon their only option is to literally move to new rome to survive you think percy's gonna be that far from his mother and baby sister???? a big part of his character in the first book is about how much he loves his mother there is NO WAY he's living away from her forever

#and annabeth doesnt wanna stay away from her either shes the mother she never had #you think annabeths picking her dad and new rome over chb and sally and percy????? no!!!!!! #crunchyposts #pjo #anyways if theres anything you take away from my blog its that i love talking #also when he notices new york is asleep in the last olympian he says “what did they do to /my/ city” its his city hes not staying away #percy jackson #annabeth #this is such an easy fix in my mind though like at the end its stated that theyre going to study at nru. straight up just swap that out w/ #them going to camp jupiter again to study things about new rome and nru and talk to people about what they might need etc #they'd probably go back and forth while theyre working on it just to like get inspiration for new athens this is such an easy mental fix #so it bothers me a bit that its not canon but its not hard to imagine it is canon #just change a couple of lines at the end

[brookheimer]

if shiv actually cared about the state of america she wouldn't fuck matsson. like if she were actually really a liberal she'd leave matsson to roman so that way he wouldn't run rejected to mencken and set fire to democracy as foreplay. honest to god if shiv gets dicked down by matsson she will be singlehandedly responsible for america's descent into fascism

#god forbid women do anything #aside from the fact that this is about shiv not taking away rome's opportunity for gay sex this reads like one of those anti-shiv reddit #posts that blames her for like everything that's ever happened in the course of the show and calls her a sociopath or w/e #and that's very very funny to me #shiv roy #succession #roman roy #lukas matsson