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dam-bluecookies · 5 days
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Tcw s5 had the most amazing explosion with the rhydonium
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high-ct5555 · 1 year
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Unpopular Opinion: Gregor should have made it back with the droids and the Colonel and should have gotten a new squad
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itstimeforstarwars · 1 year
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Finally watched the lawless and several pieces of galidraan have clicked into place.
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masterkeynobi · 1 year
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fucked up if practical that the republic canonically doesn't pay ransom for jedi. like it makes sense but at the same time imagine youre a knight and your snot-nosed fresh-out-of-the-crèche intern gets themself into a mess because theyre little and stupid and it's just between you and the force now. shit sucks
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gizkalord · 2 years
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they used the twilight in the early seasons and then made it disappear until s5 just to immediately destroy it. AND FOR WHAT
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townhulls · 11 months
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oh you know anakin’s gotta be just a little smug that one of the direct causes of satine’s death was his shitty ass ship he let obi-wan borrow to go help her bc he was mad that obi-wan was leaving him behind for her. he’s like oh noooo sorry she died but what was that again about how i won? how i got her killed? how i won you?
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faebriel · 2 years
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being an ahsoka fan in 2011 was the hardest trenches to fight in in ur god damn life 😭
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I've said all of this stuff already but I'm pissed rn and it's therapeutic to type it out:
Maul's presence on Mandalore in TCW s7 is NOT a priority. The political situation on Mandalore, while shitty, has been the same for the civilian population since s5, with or without Maul there. Things can wait a bit.
Sure, capturing Maul is possibly time sensitive (since they don't know how long he'll be on-planet), but taking back Mandalore isn't. If Maul leaves before they show up the planet is just as easy to take. Bo-Katan is using his presence as an incentive because she doesn't have the necessary forces to win, whether or not he's there. The situation is only urgent for her because if Maul leaves then the Republic has no reason to help her cause. The situation is not urgent for Mandalore because, again, it's been the same for basically a year - Maul's presence has little impact on the people, his forces are the problem and they have never left.
The Republic didn't "refuse" to help after s5, they just had no more reason to. Almec is still legitimately Prime Minister (accepted by the people) and Mandalore is an independent sovereign system that has spent actual years refusing outside interference. The second Maul bails "helping" goes back to being called "invading".
Capturing Maul is also not even a priority to the Republic (Republic =/= Jedi Order) because Palpatine ordered the Jedi to stop bothering with him in s5. Officially Maul is 'just' a crime lord, and he's not allied with the Separatists or even attacking the Republic. It's well established in TCW that the Jedi don't have the manpower to deal with the underworld anymore. What's the point of dismantling black markets and crime rings if the planet gets bombed into oblivion the next day? Priorities.
The Jedi can't do what they want with Republic resources. As awful as it is, the Clones belong to the Republic. The Jedi can be ordered to pull out of a situation whenever the Senate pleases. (see above)
Capturing Maul (what would be the Jedi's goal going to Mandalore) would really best be accomplished somewhere he doesn't have all his forces backing him up (again, confronting there is for Bo-Katan's benefit because her own goal isn't just to capture Maul but to beat his forces which she wants the Republic to do for her)
The Battle of Coruscant is ABSOLUTELY a pivotal point in the war and the main priority. The second the Separatists show up above the Republic's central seat of power? The political and military capital? The most densely populated planet in the Galaxy? It's time to drop literally everything else. The Senate is there. The Temple is there. A LOT of their troops are stationed there. There are hundreds of thousands of billions of people living there. Even pulling forces out of allied worlds to go help Coruscant wouldn't be a dick move, just a desperate one - nevermind waiting to send troops to a neutral-on-a-good-day-and-more-or-less-enemy-the-rest-of-the-time world.
The Jedi don't even refuse to help.
They don't.
Why am I typing all of this to defend their refusal to help? They don't refuse to help.
Obi-Wan wants to take a hot minute to THINK ABOUT the implications of going guns blazing into neutral sovereign territory to confront a dude who has an extremely personal vendetta against him and is known to set traps of precisely this kind. (And Obi-Wan is right to consider these things because HEY! IT IS A TRAP! MAUL SLAUGHTERS A BUNCH OF CLONES AS A BREADCRUMBS TRAIL TO LEAD SOMEONE HE HOPES TO BE OBI-WAN INTO A TRAP!)
Obi-Wan also answers to the rest of Council, just like every other Council member. Bo-Katan gets pissy that he's not giving an answer right that instant because SHE needs Maul to still be there, but thinking things through is literally Obi-Wan's job description.
And after all this, after the attack on Coruscant and the political considerations, THE JEDI DON'T EVEN REFUSE TO HELP.
The Mandalorian traditionalists' favorite pastime is attempting to kill Jedi. Not too long ago, Bo was right there when Pre was trying to kill Obi-Wan. And then trying to kill Ahsoka. And then allying with the Sith (who notoriously want to kill all the Jedi) on two separate occasions (Dooku and Maul). The Mandos PRIDE THEMSELVES on hating the Jedi. There has never been in canon an instance of a Prequels-era Mando warrior helping a Jedi out for altruistic motives.
Bo-Katan is appealing to the Order's decency (saying that her people suffer etc etc) but she doesn't even have the honesty to couch it as a real, desperate plea for help. Instead she presents the situation as transactional, as though she was bringing anything concrete onto the table. If the Republic comes in, takes Mandalore for her and captures Maul, she has contributed to the effort how, exactly? What has she given the Republic? How many people fight for her is left pretty vague but we really don't see that many of them. Plus it's her planet. Fighting for it isn't her giving the Republic anything, it's still her helping herself. And yet she gets incredibly pissed when Obi-Wan takes time to examine the 'deal.'
In light of the two previous arguments, the Jedi would in fact have been perfectly justified in telling Bo to eat some freaking humble pie.
THE JEDI. DON'T REFUSE. TO HELP.
Sure it's Obi-Wan specifically who okays the operation, before the rest of the Council can make a decision, but do they order the troops to pull out afterwards? Nope. Do they sanction him? Nope.
They do help.
They really shouldn't have let Bo-Katan in charge but hey, they get all massacred after that and the Republic's backing is literally what gives Bo-Katan legitimacy in the eyes of many clans for decades after (see the Protectors' position in Rebels. Her legitimacy stems from SATINE'S and the Republic apparently backing her up as Satine's heir. It's not from kicking Maul out.)
(I love Bo-Katan as a character but as a person she's. huh. a lot. She changed from outright villain to morally gray character because the villains got a lot worse not bc she got better lmo)
So the Jedi absolutely did help afgfdsdfgfdsdfd why are people getting pissy about Obi-Wan - who has a complicated history with Mandalore that involves a loved one getting murdered in front of his eyes by Maul - hesitating to help
They really didn't refuse to help.
They really had every reason to
It would have been perfectly reasonable in fact
Yeah they have a mandate to protect innocent people but there were a lot more innocent people on Coruscant
Innocent people who did want their help instead of yelling GTFO every time they showed up
Because the Mando civilians sure didn't want them there
Oh and also? They didn't refuse to help
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bedlamsbard · 14 days
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Hey, big fan, I loved your AU Star Wars fics, by far some of the best stories I've read. So when I saw the trailer for the new Disney show and saw Barriss as an inquisitor I was shocked, was this always the canon? I wondered if you were inspired by some SW novels or is this just a weird coincidence?
Thanks for reading, I'm glad you enjoyed the fic!
Barriss Offee has not appeared in any Star Wars media set after TCW S5 since "The Wrong Jedi" aired in 2013. On the Edge of the Devil's Backbone was written between May 2015 (began posting in July 2015) and October 2018, when the only media that existed that dealt with the Inquisitors was Star Wars Rebels, which introduced the Inquisitor (not yet called the Grand Inquisitor) in 2014 -- you'll note that in Backbone it's the Inquisition rather than the Inquisitorius, which is a name that canon didn't use until much later. Backbone was written so early that canon wasn't even using the Brother/Sister naming conventions that appeared in Rebels S2, which the first few chapters of Backbone predates (it started posting in the summer of 2015). That is the reason that Backbone Inquisitors use naming conventions that the canon Inquisitors do not: because it predates the canon naming conventions.
Back in 2015, there was speculation that the Seventh Sister who appeared in the S2 trailer that aired at Star Wars Celebration Anaheim was Barriss, thus leading to a brief period of time when the Seventh Sister and the Fifth Brother were known as "Barriss and Clyde" within the fandom, and for a long time afterwards people still called the Fifth Brother Clyde. The Seventh Sister when introduced in the original trailer only appeared helmeted, leading to the speculation that she might be Barriss Offee. When her VA was announced, there was widespread dismay that Sarah Michelle Geller might have replaced Meredith Salenger as Barriss, and at one point Freddie Prinze Jr had to deny that SMG had been recast as Barriss: that was how predominant that theory was. My use of Barriss as an Inquisitor came out of the original "there are more Inquisitors!" reveal from the Rebels S2 trailer but I made the decision back then not to make her the character that would later be known as the Seventh Sister since I was pretty sure canon wasn't going to do that. That decision was not based on anything that was actually in canon and certainly not on any of the novels at the time, because back in 2015 when I started working on Backbone there were only, I think, four new canon books out.
Backbone was, in fact, so early that when I wrote it, Cham Syndulla had not been re-introduced in Rebels -- the episode "Homecoming" aired in February 2016. (He was not actually revealed as Hera Syndulla's father until the April 2015 novel Lords of the Sith; it had previously been speculated he was Hera's uncle, not her father.) It was written years before Jedi: Fallen Order came out and revealed more information about the Inquisitorius, their recruiting patterns, or their headquarters; it also predates the appearance of the Inquisitorius in the 2017 Darth Vader comics.
All that said, it's not really a weird coincidence -- TBB also made Hera's mother green, for example, the same way I made Alecto Syndulla green. (This was more than a year before we saw that portrait in Rebels S3 (October 2016) and even more years before she was actually given a name in TBB.) That Barriss had become an Inquisitor was speculated as soon as the Rebels S2 trailer revealed that the Inquisitor was not the only Inquisitor. (He was not called the Grand Inquisitor in canon until the episode introducing the Seventh Sister and Fifth Brother aired in late October 2015, which by the way Backbone predates. He was introduced in 2014 only as "the Inquisitor," which is why and some older fans will still call him Quizzy.)
Backbone is nine years old. I started working on it in May 2015, even before "The Siege of Lothal" aired. Even though it wasn't finished until 2018, it was fully plotted by the end of summer 2015 and it predates most current Star Wars canon, because the new canon only started in fall of 2014, with the novel Star Wars: A New Dawn and soon afterwards Rebels. There was not much canon then! The Inquisitors were introduced for Rebels! At the time, there was nothing else! All of that stuff we now know about the Inquisitors? It came out well after Backbone started posting. (Hell, Jedi: Fallen Order not only postdates the beginning of Backbone, it postdates the end of Backbone, which was October 2018.)
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barissoffee · 14 days
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Hi i was just wondering why do you want barris so much? I mean, ı liked her too but she blamed ahsoka. well she was right jedi were corrupted but ahsoka was her friend. I don't like jedi counsil either but i can't forgive her not yet at least.
I've always loved her character since the first time I saw her in the original clone wars animation that came out in 2003. And I've always wanted to know what happened to her after tcw s5. Yes, what she did to Ahsoka was pretty shitty, and I wished the writers handle her character and the arc differently, but they needed Ahsoka to leave the jedi order and unfortunately they chose Barriss to be the cause of it. And personally I believe the whole wrong jedi plot was out of character for Barriss, but like I said they needed Ahsoka to leave the order.
And Yes, maybe we can't forgive her yet for what she did (eventhough it was 10 years ago), but characters can make mistakes and they can reflect on their actions to grow and change. I have no idea what the writers have planned for her in tales of the empire, will they show that she regrets what she did? maybe. Who knows. I hope they will because I think she does regret what she did, and I believe she really did care about Ahsoka. I've always wanted a redemption arc for her since the wrong jedi came out, because I believe she's a good person. Either way I am happy she is back and excited to see what happens in Tales of the Empire.
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jainasolo1233 · 7 months
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I'm so glad that they gave 14 year old Ahsoka a Tales of the Jedi/TCW S5 inspired outfit.
If she looked like she did in the first few seasons of Clone Wars, everyone would've found it ridiculous watching young Ahsoka fighting in a war in a tube top.
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dam-bluecookies · 5 days
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I love the d squad so much
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andrewwatchesmovies15 · 8 months
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The Twilight basically not being around for a few seasons of TCW, and then suddenly coming back in one episode of S5 as a rusted, broken bucket of bolts, only to be destroyed, is very funny.
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aroacedindjarin · 9 months
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just finished watching tcw s5 ep16 and i feel like i did not fully understand obi wan kenobi until now.
he is the character who is supposed to always be perfect. the perfect jedi, the perfect soldier, the perfect mentor, the perfect friend. the model example for everyone else to follow. he may not be the most powerful jedi or the smartest tactician or the most skilled fighter or pull off the most daring plans but that’s not his role. his role isn’t to be better than anyone else or to take risks no one else would dare take. his role was never to be the main character.
his role is to be the example. the one everyone can point at and and say “you should be more like obi wan”. stable, reliable, always does the right thing, always makes the right choice. and the kicker is that he’s naturally such a good man. a lot of this isn’t conscious or deliberate. he just happens to be that kind of person: A Good Man.
but that becomes what is expected of him. there’s no room for error. so many people depend on him to be that person. and it turns out he that no matter how hard he tries to live up to expectations (both his own and others’), he is still just a man. he still has a weakness. an attachment. and it’s a person that he cares too much about. satine kryze. someone in the exact same position as him. someone who has to live their life as an example to others. someone not allowed to be self indulgent. not allowed to think about only themselves. tied to duty and responsibility.
and the one time he allowed himself to feel that attachment, dropped everything, went against the senate and his masters, borrowed anakin’s ship and went to rescue her. he put everything on the line for her and still lost her.
that scene is fucking insane. he did everything he was taught to do. stood there and calmed himself while he was being taunted by maul and the dark side. but he stood by his teachings, while the love of his life got strangled in front of him, he showed control and restraint. kept a calm clear head in an impossible situation. he was the perfect jedi. and it wasn’t enough.
obi wan kenobi was so selfless his whole life and he got absolutely nothing !!! he got nothing in return !!! he did absolutely everything he was supposed to do !!!! everything that was asked of him, he did it. and nothing worked out for him. he’s so fucking tragic. the one time he let himself be even a little bit selfish was the one time he almost got what he wanted. but it wasn’t enough!! he wasn’t enough!!! he has never been enough!!!!!
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outcastpack · 6 months
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9 people you would like to get to know better
Tagged by @transdunbar @thiamsxbitch @wolfboy88
3 ships- Thiam, my brain child Thiac and QuakeRider
First ever ship - Robron
Last song - Teeth by 5SOS
Last movie - The creator
Currently reading - Subliminal (robron fic), Just finished All about control yesterday too, gonna get caught up on honeymoon wars by @theoceanismyinkwell later too
Currently watching - The Ahsoka series, also occasionally rewatching TCW series slowly, started by S5 AA rewatch for IWDIAOOY
Currently craving - McDonald's breakfast coz it's early, Cody christian to fucking MOVE more, maybe writing more of Holding out hope part 2 since brain keeps adding ideas and IWDIAOOY.
No pressure tags
@de-constructmybones @theoceanismyinkwell @theostarion @chasing-chimeras @raekensarcher @equallyloyalandlethal (sorry if anyone has already done it)
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gizkalord · 1 year
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Bringing back grogu like this is equivalent to turning on tcw s6 ep 1 after watching Ahsoka walk down those steps in the s5 finale and she’s just. Back with the jedi again.
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