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irate-iguana · 10 months
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rabidpelican · 1 year
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Teiresias, the blind seer, wading into Tilphussa’s waters to their death. The style is a combination of Japanese animation/manga and Byzantine iconography. The Linear B (ancient Greek) at the top reads: qe-ra-si-ja, which may be an early iteration of what would eventually become “Teiresias.”
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deathlessathanasia · 1 month
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Teiresias when asked to settle the argument between Zeus and Hera about whether men or women get more pleasure from sex: Of ten parts a man enjoys only one; but a woman's sense enjoys all ten in full.
Zeus to Hera (probably): See, this is why I have to sleep with nine other women for every time I sleep with you, it is the only way to make things fair. 💁
I just know that happened.
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interretialia · 6 months
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Tīresiās / Τειρεσίας
Tiresias
(Fons Imaginis.)
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nthflower · 1 year
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Ideal gender (real)
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esoclectic · 8 months
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unabashedly being a dionysian on main so if there's one ancient play i think everyone should read it is the Bacchae.
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augustheart · 1 year
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i am once again thinking about cliff and kate
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reviews-sky · 6 months
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New book review!
The Band of Teiresias #1: The Kettle Will be Made of Silver by Mark Tijsmans
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i think everyone undersells how fucking funny oedipus rex is im dying over here
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splendidemendax · 2 years
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so like. what a lame way to render that line.
one of my very favorite things abt oedipus the king (and there is a lot to love abt it) is the fabulous shifting of registers. oedipus come out and gives this formal, self-important sort of speech and then teiresias just like. screams a little bit.
(the exact thing he says is φεῦ φεῦ, φρονεῖν ὡς δεινὸν ἔνθα μὴ τέλη/λύῃ φρονοῦντι and i also love how the sound of the φευ flows into the φρονειν.)
this translation (from dudley fitts and robert fitzgerald’s the oedipus cycle) is def still my favorite but i needed a shrieking teiresias in my life rn.
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deathlessathanasia · 1 year
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"Teiresias saw two snakes coupling; when he struck at them with his staff, he was turned into a woman. After an interval of time he again saw them coupling, and in like fashion struck at them and was restored to his former sex. Thus when Juno and Jove had an argument about their respective degree of love-pleasure, they sought him out to be their arbiter. He said that a man has three-twelfths of love-pleasure, and a woman, nine. In a rage Juno deprived him of his sight, but Jove granted him divinity.
However monstrous a Greek fabrication this is, it can be explained. For they took Teiresias as an allegory of time, as for teroseon, that is perpetual summer. Thus in springtime, which is masculine because at that season there is a closing and immovability of plants, when he saw before him the creatures coupling and struck at them with his staff – that is, in the heat of temper, he is turned into the female gender, that is, into the heat of summer. They took summer to be in the form of a woman because at that season all things blossom forth with their leaves. And because there are two seasons for mating, spring and autumn, having stopped their conceiving he returned again to his former appearance. For autumn so strips all things in its masculine guise that, with the veins of life-giving sap in the trees firmly checked once more and pulling tight the open network of the leaves, it stamps out its drooping baldness. Then he is sought as a judge between the two divinities – that is, the two elements, fire and air – as they argue on the true meaning of love. He gives an honest judgment, for in the blossoming of plants twice the amount of air as of fire is required; for air combines with the soil and helps produce the leaves and impregnate the shoots, but the sun serves only to ripen the grain. In proof of this, he is blinded by Juno, for the reason that wintertime grows black with dark clouds in the air, but Jove assists with the conceiving of future growth by granting inner forces, that is foresight; for this reason January is depicted with two faces, so that it can see both what is past and what is to come."
- Fulgentius, Mythologies
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luciuscaelus · 28 days
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Our Story (Fanfic)
Chapter 1 Promises
“Now, sing O Muses, of that brave boy Odysseïdes, Sparta has he visit'd, Pylos twice, with Athena the wise queen…”
“Stop it,” Telemachus giggled. “You’re acting like your father.”
“No, I’m not,” said Peisistratus. “You’re acting like your father.”
“No, I’m not,” said Telemachus. “Unlike him, I don’t have many deeds to brag about.”
“Doesn’t sailing for the first time count?” Peisistratus insisted. “And if you don’t like this song I can always make a new one for you.”
“No thanks, Peisis,” Telemachus said. “At least, leave it till my birthday.”
“That I can arrange,” Peisistratus replied, seriously.
And they locked their gazes for a long time, until Telemachus finally burst out laughing. Soon Peisistratus joined him, and their laughter quickly flooded the entire palace. It died down eventually, as the two young men slowly calmed down. Then Peisistratus started:
“I’m so glad you’re here, Tele. Had it been another usual day, I’d be hunting with my brothers in the fields. Not that I don’t like hunting, it’s just that I’ve so many things to talk about and my brothers always find them either boring or childish. You might be the only one I could chat with. Ah, I wish you could visit Pylos more often.”
“Yeah,” Telemachus nodded. “It feels like such a long time since we last met…has it been two years already?”
“One whole year plus nine months, to be exact.”
“Right, I’m not gonna doubt you. After all, you’re better with this than I am.”
“That’s about the time since your father returned home, yep.”
“Before he set out again, you mean.”
“He set out again? About when?”
Telemachus sighed. “About one year and eight months ago. Said it was something concerning a prophecy someone named Teiresias told him—”
“Teiresias? The Teiresias? But isn’t he already dead?”
“Yep. My father had visited the Underworld, literally.”
Peisistratus gasped. “What—Oh my, that was some nostos your father had. Anyway has he met any great hero there? Like Theseus? Or Heracles? Or even my brother Antilochus?”
“He saw your brother there alright,” said Telemachus. “And Heracles, who even talked to him…”
“That’s so sick!” Peisistratus exclaimed. “I wonder if we’ll be having an adventure like this in the future, say, just you and me, maybe plus someone else, I don’t know.”
“You know what? It would be great!” Telemachus blinked his eyes excitedly. Why have I never thought about it before? Hanging out with my friends? It’s such a great idea! And father is going to be proud of us…
proud…
He’s going to be proud, isn’t he?
Telemachus wasn’t so sure. He remembered basically everything in that day, when his father again departed from Ithaca, this time to somewhere unknown even to himself. He remembered that it was a sunny day, that the chanting of birds was glorious, that the sweet scent of olives was mesmerizing, that the airy dance of cloud was elegant. These he remembered well, but most vividly he could recall that very scene, that very conversation—
“Father, I want to come along,” he had said. “I want to be with you wherever you go, so we can at least share some thrills and fun together.”
“No, Tele,” his father had answered, shaking his head. “I’m sorry, but I can’t bring you on board, not this time.”
“Why?” He had been so confused. “But I’ve always wanted to explore the worlds outside Ithaca, to see the giant oak in Dodona, the reputable land of Calydon, the seven gates of the famous Cadmea…I want to have an adventure, father. Just like you did.”
He remembered that look well. That look his father had gave him, those eyes with such agony, such sadness. Is it panic, panicking at the thought of his son following him down the miserable path that was meant for his own to take? Is it fear, fearing for the life and sanity of his son? Or is it sorrow, sorrowful over the naïve and innocent spirit of his 20-year-old son? Or is it pain, painful about the fact that he doesn’t even qualify as being a father, who never had the chance to see his son through the childhood, and hadn’t gotten to know this brave young man his son has become, before his fate was calling him to sail out again?
For a long time both of them didn’t speak, and the look was growing wearier and wearier and…it seemed as if another decade had passed inside his father’s mind, another decade filled with tribulations and torments. Telemachus couldn’t help but feel his regret. Regret that he ever said those words, regret that he wasn’t with his father when he needed him. The hands. He could feel his father’s hands gripping his shoulders tightly. But finally his father had lower the head, and sighed heavily. In a low voice, Odysseus had begun. “Tele, you have to understand. This cruel world is not as entertaining as it may seem, or sound in those tales. It’s dangerous out there, filled with monsters, storms, ruthless gods, and…and things that can go beyond your very imagination. Things that are so terrible, so overwhelming…”
He hadn’t finished the sentence, instead he was choked with sobs, and Telemachus had felt so guilty, and so helpless. But he had tried his best to withhold his tears, and had started to comfort his father. “Then I’ll face them bravely, father, like you would do. Like a true son of Odysseus would do.” Telemachus had put up with a smile. “As a true Odysseïdes.”
“Oh Tele…” Odysseus had moaned with tears. “Oh…for ten years I haven’t seen your face, in one month I haven’t gotten to know you better, but look, what an undaunted man you have become, when I’m away!” Finally, he had cracked into a smile. “Yes, that’s my boy!” He had said with sincere happiness, though the pain was still present in his voice. But at least, Odysseus had smiled.
And Telemachus had exhaled with relief.
“Father,” he had continued. “I wouldn’t insist if you really don’t want me along, but I need to know where you’re going, what you’re going to do, and how long I should wait for your return. Could you please tell me, just for mom’s sake and mine?”
And Odysseus had nodded. “Don’t worry about your mother, Telemachus. Penelope knows about this, and you have every right to know it as well.” He had stopped, and looked towards the western sky. As Telemachus followed his gaze, Odysseus continued. “Do you remember the story I’ve told you, about that prophet Teiresias in the Underworld? I had asked him about my fate, and he had answered:
‘…When someone else runs into you and says you've got a shovel used for winnowing on your broad shoulders, then fix that fine oar in the ground there, and make rich sacrifice to lord Poseidon with a ram, a bull, and a boar that breeds with sows. Then leave. Go home, and there make sacred offerings to the immortal gods…’
“So you see, Telemachus, I don’t know where I’ll go to, but I know what I’ll find. It may be a long voyage, or it may be short. Who knows? But I’m going anyway, because I am Laërtiades, son of the honorable Laërtes—one of the legendary Argonauts.”
“I see,” Telemachus had said. “The blood of dauntlessness runs deep in our family.”
“Precisely.” Odysseus had laughed proudly. “You, my son, will also share this honor, in the future perhaps, when you take on a journey of your own, and build your fame with your own feats. But today, the journey is mine to undertake, and with the blessing of the prophet, I’m very certain that I will make it home again.”
“Okay.” With a serious face, Telemachus had nodded. “Then I’ll try not to surpass you.”
They were both grinning when an owl started to whoop from the forest.
“Wait, dad,” Telemachus had suddenly called. “If not this time, then when?”
Odysseus had given him a slight smile. “When I return, son, I shall take you to Dodona, where the oaks are august; then we’ll visit Calydon, where twenty two heroes had once gathered to slay that giant boar; then we shall go to Thebes, where twice had the Argives waged war against, one of them being the father of a king whom I have befriended; and then,” Odysseus had patted Telemachus’s right shoulder. “Then I will bring you to Pylos again. And know that I won’t be gone for long. This is a promise.”
“Swear it on the river of Styx?”
“I swear it, on the river of Styx.”
Gradually, Telemachus had returned the smile. “Thank you, dad.” He had said, voice cracked with the bittersweet taste in his throat. “Thank you so much.”
He remembered the hug, the kiss, and the departure of his father clearly. He remembered how often he had doubted that whether his father would ever make it back again. He remembered that worried look of his mother, who had often stood by the shores of Ithaca, waiting, waiting. But he also remembered, that Odysseus had made a promise.
And here they were, in Pylos again, weren’t they?
And it only took him eight months, didn’t it?
So, there’s nothing to worry about. After all, there’s nothing that can waver the resolve of Odysseus’s homecoming. And thus he shall always return. Always.
All because of his love, and his promise.
Telemachus nodded to this fact. Love, and promise. That’s what my father was proud of. And if I have found the courage to love, to make a promise, then will Odysseus be proud of me, even with the knowledge that I may travel afar, likely into an ocean of danger, and a sea of trouble?
Then will we get to have our adventure, and get back safely? Will we get to tell our tales, and make our own story?
So to Peisistratus he said these words, with all his heart:
“And I’m sure we will. Of this I give you my promise.”
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Five for Tradition and Debts to the Dead
So... I did a thing. I drew the Fifth House skull AGAIN, only this time in pen and paper. Also is it me, or does this fella look a bit more friendly and laid back?
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Love the new diadem design, thank you Pinterest! And this goes to Abigail and Magnus, whose story ended way too soon.
And BONUS skull inspired by the whole, tempting the ghost with blood that Abigail talks about in HtN. A really Odysseus - Teiresias thing if you ask me.
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Should I post this separately? Anyhow, if you want to check out the rest: Link for the digital 5th here Link for the 7th here Link for the 8th here Link for the 9th here
Take care of yourselves, till next time!
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iolypse · 1 year
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books on the ship the brazilians came to the island on
Armies Of The Night — NORMON MAILER. chronicles the Oct 1967 march on the Pentagon in which the Vietnam War was protested.
Creators And Phantoms — not an actual piece of media as far as I can tell.
Screams In Dreams — not an actual piece of media as far as I can tell, however it may be hinting at the odd transmissions (bits of morse code, "are you there?", weird strings of numbers and letters, etc) within the census' messages.
Priests Of The Forest — not an actual piece of media as far as I can tell.
True Grit — CHARLES PORTIS. a coming-of-age novel set in the old west of 1870s Arkansas and Oklahoma. the protag wants vengeance on the man who murdered her father. she meets some lawmen who teach her what "true grit" is. also has a movie adaptation.
Guilty Damned — there's a book by the name The Guilty and The Damned by GENO OSBORNE, but it's so unknown that I highly doubt it has anything to do with this.
The Odyssey — HOMER. very well known, a greek story following Odysseus' ten year struggle to get home after the Trojan War. Odysseus blinds the cyclops Polyphemus, visits Teiresias in the underworld, gets past the sirens, scylla, and charybdis, get to calypso's island, kind of fights zeus and poseidon and shit, gets to ithaca, disguises as a beggar, kills the suitors and reunites with his wife. athena helps him pretty much the whole time.
A Better Tomorrow — a film in which a reforming ex-gangster tries to connect with his estranged cop brother. there's a lot of fighting between the beginning and the end, but in the end it seems like a bunch of their friends get shot, the brothers handcuff themselves together and go to the cops?
I've only ever read The Odyssey out of everything on this list, and that was for school and I did not pay attention whatsoever. but from what I can tell, every single one of these pieces of media that actually exist relate to either escaping something or getting to something.
definitely screaming at the island residents to get out, though. go home, go to their families, leave the island.
the books without actual existing things connected to them are Creators And Phantoms, Screams In Dreams, Priests Of The Forest, and Guilty Damned. might mean something, might not.
taking just the first letters of those specific titles, you get CAP SID POTF GD. putting all those together don't make anything as far as I can tell, caesar cypher gives no results either. taking out filler words, you get CP SD PF GD, though im not getting anything from that either. I don't think there's any codes in this, just warnings.
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nthflower · 1 year
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wordsmithic · 1 year
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why are people sleeping on the Greek animated series Ουκ αν λάβεις παρά του μη έχοντος?? It is a continuation of the story of Λουκιανός (Lucian) "Νεκρικοί Διάλογοι" (Dialogues of the Dead) and shows broke Menippos and two VERY tired deities in modern Athens.
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The general premise is that the old government (aka the ancient gods) want to retire but there is ooone little detail. The case of cynic philosopher Menippos isn't closed and that stops Charon and Hermes from finally retiring! Their mission? Make stubborn and chaotic Menippos earn just one euro so he can pay Charon and close the financial case. But the dedication of Menippos to being a hippie and strange circumstances will get in the way of their eternal vacation.
Do not think for a second this is a serious show, and that's why it's one of the most beloved shows for Greeks. I mean what else perfectly pairs Greek bureaucracy and the ✨Dimosio✨, Frappe-zombies, Edward Cullen, Snow White and Angel Gabriel together??
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Charon (or Kharis ☺️) is a hopeful and romantic character while Hermes is a neurotic twink on the bring of a mental breakdown, and his only option of letting off some steam is killing Menippos again and again.
In 20:20 starts a montage of Hermes' blasting Menippos' head off through different eras:
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That's Hades and other gods:
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Here they are looking for Seer Teiresias' council:
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I have a ton more to say about this κάφρικο gem honestly
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"AND DON'T CALL ME KHARI!"
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"Never underestimate the power of men's immaturity." (Dracula for Edward Cullen)
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