#terezi is the wife in question

[idrils]

me explaining to my wife how "that's just about the saddest thing that ever got said" is a stealth homestuck reference:

my wife: oh no do they all type like that?

me: well. not exactly. [literally putting my hand over my mouth] you can't ask me questions about homestuck bc i'm incapable of being normal and answering with a normal amount of information

(and of course she said no the thing is i actually like hearing you talk about your interests and that's bc my wife is a paragon)

#danger thighs #anyway who wants to talk about dave strider that's my boy #look i'm low key traumatized by an ex who would ask me questions and then literally ignore the answers bc he wasn't interested lmfao #i am getting used to how my wife is awesome #'who is GC' 'that's terezi the libra one' #'who's mine again?' 'that's feferi she makes fish puns and we love her' #'what's her weird typing thing' #me starting to feel like this is a trap to geek check me 'it's.... like a trident for capital E's'

[thewertsearch]

GC: YOU W3R3 STRUTT1NG 4ROUND 1N YOUR D3L1C1OUS K1W1 31GHT B4LL SU1T 4ND RUNN1NG YOUR FR3SH MOUTH 4S USU4L GC: durp yo terezi sup sup gotta beat john gotta beat john GC: hes got a long hood and he does wind, how can i get powers too? [....] GC: [...] 1M L1K3 D4V3 TH4TS GO1NG TO 1NVOLV3 F4C1NG YOUR OWN D34TH GC: 4ND 1M SORRY TO BR34K 1T TO YOU BUT 1 DONT TH1NK YOUR3 R34DY FOR TH4T

Well, at least she gave him fair warning.

Thanks to Vriska, John was able to achieve the god tiers without confronting his mortality. He didn't have to grapple with any of this, and it's possible that he was robbed of some character growth as a result.

That said, I still think Vriska did him a solid. It's just ironic that she thinks she's helping him develop as a hero, when she might be doing the exact opposite.

GC: BUT ONLY 1F YOU PROM1S3 TO TH3 3X4CT T3RMS OF MY 4RR4NG3M3NT, 1N ORD3R TO PROT3CT TH3 1NT3GR1TY OF TH3 T1M3L1N3 >:] TG: the arrangement being the coin flip thing TG: thank god we did that otherwise wed be screwed TG: i probably would have gone back in time and killed my own grandfather oh wait i never had one

lmao

I do wonder if Bro had an adopted family. We know Nanna and Grandpa's background, and Mom was probably the child that Skaianet were apparently raising in their laboratory. (Remember when I thought there was a secret clone of Rose down there?)

Bro, however, is an enigma, even among the Guardians. He has no known relationship with any of the other parents, but was definitely getting foreknowledge of Sburb from somewhere. I'm not even sure I want to know what sort of childhood produces Bro Strider.

GC: 1 TOLD YOU 1 W4S GO1NG TO FL1P 4 CO1N GC: 4ND B3FOR3 1 D1D, YOU H4D TO P1CK 4 S1D3 W1THOUT T3LL1NG M3 GC: GOOD H34DS OR B4D H34DS

Really, the coin is just a rhetorical device. Terezi doesn't need to flip a coin, or even have a coin, because the real flip is happening in Dave's head. His Mind, if you will.

This does raise a lot of questions, though. I hope there isn't a timeline for every conceivable decision you could make. We've sort of discussed the idea before, but I don't think I've really talked about the subtle horror of a multiverse that works that way.

I mean, if there's a timeline for every possible decision - if everyone is capable of making any choice, at any time - then John will randomly kill his friends, for no reason. There are millions of offshoots where he does this. WV will become a monarchist. Dave will take off his shades.

It goes deeper, too. You can't even meaningfully ask why Dave wears shades, because he doesn't. He's constantly taking them off, because it is possible for him to do so. And if there's a timeline where he never takes them off, it's only because that's a decision he could potentially make.

If timelines branch at every decision, with no restrictions, then every single person in the multiverse is constantly doing things that contradict the core of who they are. In fact, there is no core. Everyone is an indistinguishable robot, constantly making every possible decision, simply because they can.

Homestuck could work like this, but I prefer the Discworld interpretation - I think it's more consistent with the comic's themes of choice. In Night Watch, protagonist Vimes is confronted with this exact question, and we get this exchange:

“But sometimes you can’t help wondering: what would have happened if I’d done something different–” “Like when you killed your wife?” Sweeper was impressed at Vimes’s lack of reaction. “This is a test, right?” “You’re a quick study, Mister Vimes.” “But in some other universe, believe me, I hauled off and punched you one.” Again, Sweeper smiled the annoying little smile that suggested he didn’t believe him. “You haven’t killed your wife,” he said. “Anywhere. There is nowhere, however huge the multiverse is, where Sam Vimes as he is now has murdered Lady Sybil. But the theory is quite clear. It says that if anything could happen without breaking any physical laws, it must happen. But it hasn’t. And yet the “many universe” theory works. Without it, no one would ever be able to make a decision at all.” “So?” “So what people do matters!” said Sweeper. “People invent other laws. What they do is important!

In short, there are some things you would never do, physical laws be damned. It is inconceivable that Vimes would murder his wife, because his current personality is incompatible with that decision. It simply cannot be made to make sense, so it can't spawn a timeline.

Note that this is only true for Vimes 'as he is now'. His moral code doesn't necessarily apply to his alt-selves - or even his younger self, whose code hasn't solidified. Hell, half the book is about making sure Young Vimes develops that code in the first place. There could be an evil John Egbert, but our John can't just arbitrarily turn evil.

So that's how I think it works. There's a timeline for every decision that you'd choose to make, and that subset of decisions will change as you grow. Your development as a person shapes the multiverse, in a very literal way.

#homestuck liveblog #full liveblog #act 5.2 #s99 #3093 #sort of like that ask about the alpha timeline needing to be consistent with the personalities of its inhabitants #but at a larger scale

[incorrect-hs-quotes]

*please* give us context on the pizza hut story mod tz i want to know why you decided to pull the most hilarious prank ever and how you came up with the idea

It's not that interesting tbh, but one day while walking on my way home from work I found an old pizza hut uniform in the gutter, so I took it home and washed it up and it was a bit snug on me but more or less my size. And I just used it every now and again, no biggy. But then, one day when I was out and about, I happend to be wearing that shirt while in a pizza hut, not realizing I was wearing it mostly because it was winter and I had my coat on and a jacket too. But when I got a bit warmer I took it off after a little while someone came up to me and asked where the bathrooms are and I pointed them in the right direction. They must have thought I was on break, but I realized I had a prime opportunity on my hands. So I put my stuff in the corner borrowed someone's hat and stood at the register and got to "work". I obviously had no idea how to work the register, but I did know how to do the customer service voice well enough that they wouldn't question anything. So basically spent the next hour or so just telling people we were out of pizza because the snow was screwing up the supply deliveries, that the cook's wife had a baby, that the manager was arrested for doing drugs in the freezer, etc., until someone in the back realized it was awfully not busy despite a decent flow of people. They were cool with it, but the manager.... ooph. He fired me on the spot. Or would have, if since it was a bit before he realized what was going on and I was trying to keep the bit going for as long as I could. I was a new hire, nobody gave me the proper training, you interviewed me last week? Eventually he caught on and let me go, but told me if he ever saw me back there he'd call the cops. So yeah basically I can't go to that specific pizza hut anymore

-Mod Terezi

#not a quote #mod terezi

[askaniritual]

I hope this isn't too outside of your purview in regards to you liking sollux but do you have any thoughts about how sollux killing aradia informs his character and any potential relationship to terezi given her relationship to Vriska (and how he might think of Vriska)? Sorry if this is not clear but sollux tbh is not a character I think too much about in this chain of events, the focus is usually terezi and vriska (and my personal fave aradia) in the cycle of revenge.

i could hardly declare myself the worlds foremost solrezi enjoyer (which i have, on multiple occasions) if this type of pondering were outside my purview. i got so excited about this question i had to go for a little walk to collect my thoughts.

i definitely think that sollux fuckin hates vriska and there's no world in which they could ever be cool, but i also think the rules vis a vis how acceptable it is to kill another person are like. at least somewhat different on alternia. so even though i dont think terezi could be quadranted to vriska and sollux (at least in any kind of canonverse) i also dont think sollux would necessarily hold terezi's relationship with vriska against her. to me this is also partially because i think he blames himself for the aradia thing more than he blames vriska. like he definitely thinks he should have been strong enough to stop it, and thats what eats him up more than vriska taking petty revenge.

honestly like. to me solrezi is allll about vriska and aradia. sollux and terezi are both characters i understand as fundamentally haunted by these relationships from their past that have become difficult/complicated but that they can't quite bring themselves to end. like they're both characters who had a relationship go wrong and now they have decided they are going to let this define them forever.

so to me solrezi is interesting when they see each other as somebody who is working very very hard to maintain a front because if they let the facade drop for even one second and genuinely let someone else in, then they are going to be opening themselves up to more trauma. and thats why i think they would work really well as moirails because they can be two people who can really understand each other and they are the only person the other trusts not to let their current relationship become a retread of their previous relationship. also i think they would like. chew on each other a little, you know? theyre definitely in a bar bathroom doing lines of experimental research chemicals that sollux bought off the Troll Dark Web tm and terezi wakes sollux up at 4 am so that he can float them both to mickey d's because she's fiending for a shamrock shake. nobody will go near their pile because it's made of shredded legal textbooks and old honeycomb and it is weirdly sticky.

anyway i hope that at least kind of answered your question! i have of course more thoughts abt the (imo) lackluster way that sollux/aradia comes up in canon and fanon i think to both sollux and aradia's detriment and i think it sucks that aradia has to be dead for sollux to make any of his other quadrants available. he deserves more than to be Aradia's Wife Guy and she deserves more than Tragic Dead Girlfriend

#thanks for letting me talk abt thissssss it was so fun i love solrezi #allegory of the hive #asks #anonymous

[davekat-sucks]

Speaking of the Meat/Candy timeline not making sense, why didn't Rose and Jade simply ask Kanaya if they could have kids from the get-go?

Trolls have two quadrants best suited for bucket-filling after all, so it's highly likely that someone's Kismesis is another's Matesprit and vice versa. The idea of your lover sharing an intimate quadrant with someone else wouldn't get a Troll's hackles raised because it's the norm in Troll society. Kanaya's also been shown caring for grubs she didn't directly fill pails for either, ergo she probably wouldn't walk out on them if she didn't contribute to the process.

So, Jade and Rose not asking the person who's most likely to be comfortable with polyamorous relationships, if they could have kids in the first place, doesn't make sense! I can let Jade's ignorance on the topic slide; the Retcon left her all alone on the Battleship and she was mindcontrolled/asleep for the rest of the campaign. Of course she wouldn't know the intricacies of Troll culture and their dating practices, no one taught her them! Unlike Jade though, Rose should've known better.

And why...the hell...did Rose have to carry the kid for 9 months...if ECTOBIOLOGY EXISTS THERE?! The Meat timeline even included the equipment for Gog's sake, it's frustrating that the writers forgot that fast! If they wanted to explore Rose's idea of motherhood, Jade's perpetual loneliness, and the nuances of the Troll quadrants-- why did it have to be with a flippant and trashy cheating reveal? Soap Operas have more cohesive and respectful character drama than this.

WhatPumpkin really forgot that ectobiology exists. I could understand if Hussie or WhatPumpkin made some bullshit excuse that troll biology and human biology are unable to mix due to biological difference. Which may make others question how high tech would Earth C can be if spin-offs like Hiveswap and Hiveswap Friendsim, shown trolls are technologically advanced. They literally made a machine that can heal a person's bones and muscles in an instant. Lanque is an example of a perfectly transitioned female to male troll without issues. Something like surgery to be able to mimic a human's reproductive organs would not be far off. Either way, a troll and a human hybrid COULD be possible. But I guess it's not enough for Kanaya or Rose to have their own kid. They got to adopt one who happens to be cerulean and named after Kanaya's OLD CRUSH VRISKA, showing she still wants the bad girl troll even after marrying Rose. We got to make Kanaya still obsess over her despite that her arc was suppose to be that she would GET OVER VRISKA AND MOVE ON TO SOMEONE BETTER THAT WILL TREAT KANAYA BETTER. I don't know why Andrew Hussie or WhatPumpkin are doing cheating and infidelity in Epilogues and Homestuck^2's main conflict for drama. Because it's seems like everyone is fucking someone else despite they have a lover or they are married. John leaves his wife Roxy and fucks with Terezi, Jade and Dave are married but Dave leaves so he can fuck with Karkat, Terezi now has John's dead corpse but is now flirting with a Rosebot who had abandoned her wife Kanaya and is now fucking with her and Ultimate Dirk, Jake/Jane/Gamzee, and Aradia ghosted Sollux (AGAIN) to fuck around with Davebot. It's someone NTR fetish at this point and I hate hate HATE it so much.

#Homestuck #Homestuck Epilogues #Homestuck^2 #HS2 #Homestuck 2 #Homestuck2 #Kanaya Maryam #Rose Lalonde #Jade Harley #Andrew Hussie #What Pumpkin #WhatPumpkin

[carcinogenuine]

😶 + Do you think going godtier is a good idea?

I'M JUST GOING TO ASSUME YOU'RE ASKING IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR ME TO GO GOD TIER.

THAT'S A COMPLICATED QUESTION. WHICH IS WHY IT TOOK ME SEVERAL MONTHS AND A PRETTY BIG FIGHT WITH MY WIFE TO FINALLY GIVE ME ENOUGH OF A KICK IN THE POSTERIOR CUSHIONING TO MAKE THE DECISION.

I DON'T EVEN SEE WHAT OTHER OPTION THERE IS. KANAYA AND I PROMISED ECHIDNA WE'D RESTORE OUR SPECIES. IT'LL BE HARD FOR HER TO DO THAT, EVEN WITHIN THE TIME LIMIT OF TEREZI'S LIFESPAN.

LET ALONE MINE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE LEFT HONESTLY, BUT IT'S NOT A LOT. AT FIRST I DIDN'T WANT TO - I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I ACTIVELY WANT TO BE IMMORTAL.

BUT DAVE'S LIFE JUST STARTED PRACTICALLY. I THOUGHT ABOUT HOW IN MAYBE 30 YEARS, HE WON'T HAVE ME ANYMORE. AND IN A FEW HUNDRED YEARS HE MIGHT NOT EVEN REMEMBER MY FACE, OR MY NAME.

I DON'T WANT TO BE A FOOTNOTE IN HIS STORY.

#ALSO IT JUST MAKES ME UNBELIEVABLY ANGRY TO IMAGINE HIM TRADING SALIVA WITH SOMEONE ELSE. #DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH OF HIS SHIT I PUT UP WITH ON THE METEOR? #THREE YEARS! OF I'M NOT GAY KARKAT! CAN I LAY MY HEAD ON YOUR LAP THOUGH?

[fictionkinfessions]

Canon Pride Stuff? Count me In! Oh boy... lets get this list out:

Terezi Leijon (Meulin-Ways) - Cis, questionably ace? Panromantic though

Tera Pyrope - Cis again, no clue but I was not heterosexual

Terezi Captor (Mituna-Ways) - She/They/He, Bi

Meulin Leijon - Pansexual

Meulin Megido (Damara-Ways) - Pan

Meulin Nitram (Rufioh-Ways) - He/She/They

Erisolsprite - Transmasc Nonbinary, they/he

Erisolsprite (Crow Strider AU) - Polyam

Cronus Maryam (Porrim-Ways) - Gay

Damara Ampora (Cronus-Ways) - Bi (I was the bi wife to Horuss Captor)

Kanaya Ampora - Lesbian

Aradia Megido (Humanstuck) - Bi

Aradia Serket (Vriska-Ways) - Polyam, wlw

Red Son (Monkie Kid) - Transmasc, Bi, Polyam

Gamzee Vantas (Karkat-Ways) - Unlabeled Sexuality

Roxy Harley - they/she?

Jake Strider (Dirk-Ways) - Gay

Blue (This is How You Lose the Time War) - Saphhic, agender(she/they and plethora of neos)

This is everything I can remember! Happy Ptide!

- #🔮❤️🖍

#fictionkinfessions #fictionkin #🔮❤️🖍 #canon genders and sexualities #terezileijonkin #terapyropekin #terezicaptorkin #meulinleijonkin #meulinmegidokin #meulinnitramkin #erisolspritekin #aradiaserketkin #redsonkin #gamzeevantaskin #roxyharleykin #cronusmaryamkin #damaraamporakin #kanayaamporakin #aradiamegidokin #jakestriderkin #bluekin #thisishowyoulosethetimewarkin #mod party cat! #homestuckkin

[thewebcomicsreview]

Seeing as I don’t have a job right now (one week furlough), I managed to get a lot of writing for Saffron and Sage done today. Now I feel good! Time to ruin that with a Homestuck 2 Liveblog! Last time: Jade kidnapped “Yiffy”, much to Jane’s distress! No time for that, though, as we’re back with the Candyland Kids. 

HARRY: vrissy, i know this is a stressful predicament but i think that's going too far. HARRY: my dad believes in us. HARRY: and if he thinks there's something we can do, then there has to be a way!

Kind of interesting that Harry holds his dad’s opinion in such high esteem, considering that his dad has been AWOL pretty much his whole life.

TAVROS: Uncle john isn't to blame for this,,, HARRY: yeah, no shit tav. HARRY: this whole situation is because of YOUR insane hitlermom.

How the hell does Harry Anderson know who Hitler is? When did that conversation come up? This is a completely different universe! 

TAVROS: Is less sincere,,, than it is,,, an attempt to weaponize something difficult for me, TAVROS: In order that you can win an argument,,, with harry anderson,,,,, VRISKA: GRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! VRISKA: WILL YOU ALL JUST VRISKA: SHUT!!!!!!!! VRISKA: UP!!!!!!!!

A good example of why characters like John, Jade, Vriska, and sometimes Karkat are important in Homestuck or in stories generally. They actually do shit. 

VRISKA: Neither you nor your friends have anything really important going on. VRISKA: Your lives and your planet are a total 8ore! VRISKA: 8ut somehow John loves you anyway. VRISKA: Try and be fucking gr8ful for that every once in a while. VRISKA: Not everyone is so lucky.

Vriska please do not be pining for middle-aged John Egbert. You have literally half a dozen semi-official love interests (John, Terezi, Eridan, Tavros, Meenah and Kanaya), please don’t pick the one old enough to be your dad. It was already weird enough when Adult John got hot and bothered by teen Roxy in the epilogues, to say nothing of you fucking a middle-aged homeless clown in a bush.  

thespiansGlamor [TG] began pestering adamantGriftress [AG]

Oh, fuck you, Homestuck. It’s bad enough that Harry and Dave are both going to be referred to as “TG” in chatlogs, but now Vrissy and Vriska are both AG and have the same font color! 

TG: i've allocated the strife specibus with the scissorkind abstratus? TG: hm. TG: using this weird vocab and stuff feels... well, weird. TG: i'm not sure why, but it seems as though everything that's about to happen is that much more important now. TG: or maybe it already was, but i just didn't understand just how important until this moment.

One issue with wearing your metaphor on your sleeve as much as Homestuck 2 does is that thematically important lines become really obvious. 

I like how the triangle-shaped panel around Vriska escaping the crowd by simply walking into it is reminiscent of a magic 8-ball. That’s clever! 

VRISKA: Your society... no, your whole planet... it deserves to 8urn str8 to MEGAhell, and I'm gonna 8e the one to fly it there! VRISKA: I'm gonna shatter your paradise into pieces with my 8are hands and SHIT IN ITS GRAVE!!!!!!!! VRISKA: HOW'S THAT FOR A FUCKING ST8MENT! VRISKA: YOU GOT ALL THAT, JANE CROCKER? VRISKA: DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT'S COMING FOR YOU???????? VRISKA: YOU'VE MESSED WITH VRISKA: ********VRISKA******** VRISKA: ****FUUUUUUUUCKING**** VRISKA: ********SERK8T********

There’s some extreme Dungeons and Dragons energy here, where Vriska’s plan to escape a mob of reporters working for a totalitarian dictatorship run by literal gods is to simply walk outside and publicly declare her intent to destroy the world as punishment for its sins. 

And yeah, this is how that plan usually works in DnD, too.

Man, the next page is a wall of text, whereas in old Homestuck this’d be an animation. I get “fair wages” and “small budget”, but is still feels weird to see a big Strife scene merely get described with boring-ass words.

Fearing gunfire, the few paparazzi who aren't currently getting their asses handed to them by the world's angriest traffic cone start to trip over each other, diving for cover.

The world’s angriest traffic cone.

Far away, in her lair, Jane Crocker grabs the two sides of her computer monitor with enough strength to snap it in two. She can't believe what she's watching. Behind her, from a shadowy corner of the room, there is an agitated growling noise and the rattle of chains.

Is that Yiffy? Is Yiffy an animal? Please tell me Yiffy is not a person that Jade named Yiffy. 

....Actually, please tell me that Yiffy isn’t an animal Jade named Yiffy that is Jade’s child via sex with another animal that might be my breaking point.

Vriska alights on the ground, rakes her throat, quietly spits out a little wad of blue, and wipes her mouth unceremoniously. Tavros pats Harry Anderson tentatively on the arm. Vrissy tries to be badass and cough up something too but she doesn't really make it work.  

Vrissy::Vriska Vriska::Mindfang

It’s weird that John’s sprite is the same even though he’s middle aged now, but I like that his God Tier outfit doesn’t fit any more. Isn’t it magical? Ahh, who cares.

JOHN: this old thing is pretty uncomfortable in a lot of ways. JOHN: hm... JOHN: when we get a moment, maybe the two of us could brainstorm a redesign? JOHN: no pressure though. HARRY: !!!

Oh, that’s why! That’s cute. 

JADE: theres something i need to tell you

don’thavefuckedadogdon’thavefuckedadogdon’thavefuckedadog

JADE: john... i have a daughter JADE: shes almost harry andersons age JOHN: ... JOHN: ... JOHN: you have a daughter.

Named Yiffy?

ROSE: It was at this point that Jade came to me. ROSE: I could understand her pain quite acutely, and so... ROSE: I agreed to carry a child on her behalf. KANAYA: . ROSE: ... Without telling Kanaya.

Without-

Kanaya is your WIFE. You LIVE WITH HER. Even ignoring the question of why you’d keep 9 months of pregnancy from your wife, how? Kanaya would have been living with humans for years at that point and she’s literally in charge of reproduction don’t tell me she thought Rose just got fat for a while and then lost the weight really fast. 

ROSE: I'm... not sure why I made that decision. ROSE: I regret not telling Kanaya, of course. ROSE: But I can't say that I regret going through with it. ROSE: At the time, it didn't feel as though the deception was even all that prolonged. The whole affair was... short. ROSE: Purely physical, and nothing more.

ROSE: John, there isn't a father. ROSE: Jade and I are the sole parents of this child. JOHN: oh. JOHN: ... JOHN: OH. JOHN: oh i'm so sorry, i didn't th- ROSE: That's quite alright John, although you might like to direct that apology more towards your sister. ROSE: All I will say is that if you would like to take up the particulars with us, ROSE: Some *other* time, 

Actually, if John doesn’t know that Jade has a male dog’s genitals due to a fusion accident, I’d love to know what that all-caps OH means. What does he think happened, that Jade and Rose managed to have a baby? 

JOHN: so... how did you hide the pregnancy? ROSE: Oh, that was simple. ROSE: Jade's genes being, as they are, part canine, the gestation period was substantially reduced.

OH NO 

Yiffy is literally a furry, isn’t she? Moreso that Jade, she’s a full-on “Can be naked onscreen and it’s okay because she’s covered in fur” dog girl.

JOHN: i think i understand everything so f VRISSY: WAIT!!!!!!!! VRISSY: YOU MEAN TO TELL ME VRISSY: NOT ONLY DO I H8VE A SISTER VRISSY: 8UT YOU NAMED VRISSY: YOUR ****SECRET CHILD**** VRISSY: ********YIFFY********????????

Vrissy makes an excellent point. 

ROSE: We didn't call her Yiffy. ROSE: That would be a quite ridiculous thing with which to burden a child. ROSE: Her full name is Yiffany Longstocking Lalonde Harley.

Vrissy looks as though she is about to shit the belltower they are standing in, brick by brick.

ROSE: It was, in hindsight, a monumentally terrible decision acting as the final chapter in a long series of novels, each one full of progressively more terrible decisions than the last. ROSE: But that is the name that we decided upon.

Oh, wait a second. Vriska changed Vriska Maryam-Lalonde to Vrissy, and changed Harry Anderson to just Harry. So obviously she’s going to rename Yiffy to literally anything else, then rename Tavros, and then we’ve got a new set of four kids as Vriska leaves to do something else. That’s what going to happen, right? Right? Please? 

ROSE: You have to understand... this whole situation ended up playing out a bit like an ironic game of chicken between the two of us. ROSE: Something that far outstripped anything that the Strider fraternity could have produced in their wildest, most jpegged creative wet dreams. ROSE: But in the end that triumph of irony came back to bite us in the fucking ass, as irony is wont to do. ROSE: There was absolutely no possibility of us casually letting you all know that, by the way, we had had a secret daughter named Yiffany Longstocking. ROSE: At least, not right away. ROSE: But carapacian change-of-name paperwork is so complex and circuitous that, eventually, keeping quiet forever just seemed like the more reasonable option.

This is, even for Homestuck, monumentally stupid. You named your daughter Yiffany Longstocking as a joke and then kept the child secret because you were embarrassed. You two are awful fucking parents. You are the worst parents in the entire series, and that includes Bro Strider and the spider that made Vriska feed it children. 

And we’re literally at the point where the writing is bad and the joke is how bad the writing is. This isn’t enjoyable to read; you can’t make a bad B-movie My Immortal fanfic on purpose.  

Even now, Yiffy is likely being held at spoonpoint

I feel like “Jade and Rose have a secret daughter named Yiffany Longstocking” can be a joke or it can be drama but maybe not both at the same time. 

#Homestuck 2 #Homestuck #Homestuck 2 Liveblog

[transformationstuck]

Amalagam Story

Jane was practically sick of trolls at this point. Ever since the entire fiasco had went down, her father gone, and the rise of complaints against her campaign by the majority of the troll population, she wanted them gone from this Earth. It had been a single month since she had deported most of the trolls using small legal constraints to other planets, where they’d continue with their meaningless banter of trying to disobey her. Why, she had been trying her hardest to conform the trolls to her ways, and look where that got her! Nowhere. Frankly, the next time she was going to see a candy corn horn, there was going to be a reckoning.

And yet there was no avoiding it. The twelve initial trolls who had assisted in the beta session remained within the galaxy. Some were taken care of, however discretely. She had devised Nepeta’s ship to crash into one of the deadliest planet to ever live in, and while she expectantly made herself the apex predators against all the face-sucking, marrow-gnawing monstrosities that lived on the planet, she had no way out. Kanaya was permanently disposed off with Rose after an indefinite honeymoon, with a small gift. Perhaps calling it small was the wrong thing, but she sure hoped Rose enjoyed pounding onto her wife like an animal in heat, because that’s practically what those two would be. Both Aradia and Vriska were off the books, considering the former was always missing and off doing something and the latter was currently the leader of the rebellion against her. Terezi and Feferi were far too important people in her campaign to even consider removing their existence, so she would have to simply tolerate them. After all, any legal issues regarding trolls would be pushed by the Pyrope and the former Heiress gave her such political power with her blood color. That left, coincidentally, all the male trolls.

And wasn’t it John’s birthday soon anyways? Might as well prepare him a gift.

——–

The first one was easy. All it took was two drones, a burlap sack, and there was a rather large lump of troll in front of her desk, with two ridiculously large horns protruding out of it.

“I didn’t ask for him to literally bring him to me. Look at the mess he’s making on the carpet! That’s just vacuumed! Get him out of here!”

The drones obeyed, though finding themselves difficulty immediately upon a certain conundrum.

“Tilt him sideways. SIDEWAYS! Why are you rotating him vertically? I meant horizontally! I know the horn is stuck. Just back off, don’t use brute force and…”

CRACK!

As Jane felt a pressure build on her neck, she decided that whenever trolls were involved, so were her migraines.

———

“… What did I tell you about bringing him to me LITERALLY? Again with the carpet? Do you know how difficult honey is to wipe off a carpet? Have you even baked before? Obviously you haven’t baked before, but I’ll do it myself this time. Just… dump him! In the vat! Now shoo!”

———–

“… Just put a sock in his mouth and get it over with.”

———-

“Yoo hoo, handsome. I got a surprise for you~.” The hallway was empty save for a lumbering figure, who seemed rather confused and tilting his head quizically, to the point where his head was rotating in a perpendicular manner. That was most certainly not the way a head should rotate, and the fact that she was wearing nothing but a single sheet of apron was already making her feel more vulnerable.

“Come on, handsome. I know you want it.” She held up a pie, which was green and what she would consider the complete disregard for basic culinary needs. A single whiff was more than enough to make her feel disgusted, and she wondered how anyone could even take a bite off of it.

Still no response, which meant that she had to bring out the big guns. Taking a deep breath, Jane winked, twice, and each wink followed by a short honk.

That did it, as the juggalo basically launched himself, erect cock showing through his stupid codpiece, and Jane found herself wanting to fall for the same mistake of letting the clown in her bedsheet again.

Click.

As Gamzee fell down the trapdoor she had long since set up in case something like this would ever happen, Jane sighed with relief, rubbing her head, and massaging her boob. “God, I actually should get a dick some time soon… And preferably not a clown’s…”

———

“… Excuse me, correct me if I’m hearing this right.”

A rather muscular troll, sweating profusely and smelling like a hung horse and a broken engine sat in front of her desk. The poor furniture was now drenched, and already a dark circle was forming underneath the carpet.

“You want in on this project. After I kidnapped you friends? Condemn them to a horrible experiment that’ll leave their body gone, potentially the mind, and you want in on this?”

A nod. And a sigh from her direction, before she tugged lightly on the rope that was currently binding Equius’s neck.

“You know I was going to disregard you since you were somewhat helpful, right?”

Another nod. Another tug. The troll’s face began to glow bluer by the second, but that deranged smile of him absolutely wanting this behind the leather restraints made her think of all trolls were like this.

Especially when he had been like this for the past three hours.

“I swear, trolls…” She waved to her drones to take him away, but it seemed like the ingredients were complete.

Though she felt like she was forgetting something, she was sure it wasn’t that important if she could remember it.

———

In front of her stood approximately 1000 lb of troll flesh, complete with 5 pairs of horns, 5 pairs of misplaced arms and legs, the most obvious bulges ever, some obviously aroused, and few facial features which she proceeded to shut up. The process was going to be painstakingly simple, as she started to channel the Life into the body.

It hadn’t taken much for her to channel the five into a single blob majorly for safekeeping. She couldn’t risk any of them breaking out and spoiling her plan, so she had made them into what was a large meatball, feeding them all the surplus baked goods until they grew fat and complacent, and practically no traces of bone structure remained from the excessive flesh gained from consumption.

Push, knead. Push, knead. Minute by minute, the flesh began to sink underneath her hands, folding and mixing until gray became pink, round shape forming into more humanoid, a thousand pounds now beginning to dwindle into approximately one tenth of its original weight.

It was then that she called John.

“John.” She said with a quick, snappy tone that immediately informed her ecto-grandson that she meant business. “If you were looking for a relationship, what would you look for in a woman?”

“… What?” A click of her tongue immediately made John regret questioning Jane. There was something about her that intimidated him ever since her campaign began, but still, the question remained. “I mean… Nice, I guess? If you are asking about her personality o-”

“I meant a sexual relationship. Jesus Christ, get on with it!”

“Right, right. So uh… huge boobs.” Silence from her end was interpreted as a signal to continue as she proceeded to knead whatever was left over into a round shape, over the currently very flat chest with little to no definition. “I mean, some serious honkers. A real set of badonkers, packing some dobonhonkeros. Massive dohoonkabankl-”

“John!”

“Right… Uh… Big ol’ tonhongerekoogers.” With that, John paused, and added, “And some thighs please. I like them thick.”

———–

It wasn’t long before Jane was done, staring at her masterpiece she had taken three hours of pure Life to create. An hourglass figure, melon-sized titties, and the very definition of thunder thighs. It wasn’t long before they started moving, which, at that point, she wasn’t exactly sure what happened. One moment they had been lying down unconscious, the next thing, they were, and each limbs proceeded to move completely independent of each other. It wasn’t until she stuffed the horse-dildo in their seemingly very aroused entrance with rough force did they proceed to break out of her lab through sheer willpower.

It wasn’t long before she found her, though not directly. She had left her be for now, and it seemed that, as intended, John had found her first.

The various names mixed together had mistakenly led John to believe she was named “Etiquette.” Though a strange name, she had come a long way from being five different trolls to one hot little body. Sure, disjointed complaints and moans of pleasure occasionally seemed to confuse John, as well as her habit of talking to herself, but once she got in bed, he had no complaints. Sometimes she demanded a larger dildo stuffed down her ass. Sometimes she wanted to do nothing but videogames. Sometimes she started honking like a clown as she rode John cowgirl style, which obviously terrified John as much as it aroused him. It did leave Jane to wonder if they all shared an internal voice, or argued over what to do next, seizing control or each other? Or perhaps they got adapted to controlling their body in a uniform style? Or perhaps all of their personality got melded into one. Jane could potentially find out, but decided against it. As she closed the feed of John pounding Etiquette to the next pleasure-town, the way her fingers and toes twitched, her arms and legs occasionally moving as opposed to how she was acting, she knew that at the very least she got rid of an eyesore.

#discord submission #submission

[ardenttheories]

I super appreciate how willing you are to call out this shit with hs and this isn’t @ you but I feel like there isn’t much discussion with the writer’s team (especially kate’s) racism and how they act like the moral high point of stuff (ex: blaming tavros for getting abused) they they really don’t have any authority over

If I’m completely honest, I’ve taken to avoiding the writers like the plague. I’ve come to deeply dislike them both as writers and people, so I mostly go off information I’ve received from the fandom and their disappointments when it comes to writing my posts (which I do verify beforehand, of course). 

However, I’m in no fucking way surprised by this. I’ve not seen any of the racism commentary (which I think we very much should talk about, frankly, and if you can think of any instances in specific, please send me links via the submit box), but I have seen the way they treat situations of abuse and victims of it.

You can see it fairly starkly in Pesterquest. Vriska, one of the most objectively abusive characters in the entirety of the original comic, is portrayed as a sad, confused girl, lonely, forced into a situation that she cannot control, one that she doesn’t like, one she wants to escape but has no idea how to. 

It’s clear as hell that they want you to be sympathetic for her. In fact, it’s really easy to be. When you go through her route, it’s almost impossible not to be sympathetic for Vriska based on the way they wrote her. 

But, Tavros? The victim of her abuse? The first thing Reader says is something along the lines of “But, Vriska? Dear sweet Vriska? You could never imagine her doing something like this - well, actually, you can”. And yet... our opinion of Vriska - that she’s a sympathetic character we should adore and who has only ever acted out of desperation - is meant to stay in tact. We’re not meant to dislike Vriska at any point in time, and we’re actively meant to help her ammend her relationships - which always comes down to “well, Vriska had it worse, so you should forgive her” (Terezi comes to mind here; her forgiving Vriska is very in character for her, to be sure, but it also feels like she dismisses so much of her own criticism and upsets towards Vriska in the process, as if... she was being pedantic the entire time?)

On top of that, if we look at the treatment of Jake in both the epilogues and HS2... oh, boy. He’s meant to be a beta cuck. You can just see that it’s lathered with that concept. For some reason, being forced into relationships you probably don’t want because of an addiction you might not be able to control, being turned into a sex object by two of your best friends who then both completely ignore your consent, the implications of him being sexually assaulted by Jane, his clear discomfort with her, the fact that he actively ran away from her - and yet, he’s still meant to go back and fix it because he’s “not being man enough”. Because escaping from your abuser isn’t good enough.

And that’s to say nothing about the fact that Jake’s had no presence in the Meat timeline after being brainfucked by Dirk. He’s likely suffered severe emotional trauma and psychological scarring from the fact that he was mindcontrolled into wholeheartedly loving someone he thought was his best friend, only to be cruelly dumped as some absolutely stupid (and OOC) form of revenge - and that’s it.

That’s all Jake is in the Meat timeline. Haha he gets denied look at him acting sooooo weird!!

He is reduced to this sort of... joke that we’re never really meant to think on more again. He suffered trauma and it’s just brushed aside because it’s not “plot relevant”? In both timelines? 

I think... a lot of my issue with this therefore comes from the treatment of male abuse survivors. Again, Vriska is actually treated fairly well. Her trauma is handled with the utmost respect, and you’re actively encouraged to feel guilty for her, to want to see her get better, get help, to see her have something good in her life for once. 

But, everyone else? Oh, well Tavros should have been stronger. Being permanently disabled is clearly an appropriate punishment for this! Jake’s just a beta cuck, his sexual, emotional, and physical abuse is no excuse for not going back to his highly abusive wife! And of course if we can’t get a joke out of him, we might as well not show him at all! 

Even Eridan gets this treatment in Pesterquest. Even though he goes through the extact same revelations as Vriska - about gender, about his dad, about how he sees the world, about his own struggles with what he wants to be and what he thinks he should be based on the Alternian class system - it’s almost like he’s not good enough for redemption. Like he somehow missed the mark for being a sympathetic character despite the fact that he’s actively shown, in some ways, to be more open and understanding of himself and his views than Vriska. When Eridan is objectively the least bad of the two, considering his worst crimes are “lashed out at friends in self defence with an overpowered weapon he did not create, while grimdark”. He’s just reduced to “haha, man can’t get head out of ass to be big brain, deserve all bad thing in life”. 

And, to go back to HS2 for Jade for a moment - remember how they reduced every complaint about how toxic she’s gotten, how questionably abusive and deeply unhealthy she is for her friends, to “well, the fandom doesn’t like her because she’s a woman of fucks”? 

The writers have a very strict “women get a free pass for any abuses they cause, but men can never be forgiven and should be laughed at” mentality, which is deeply disturbing. 

Give women the right to be strong characters, make them unlikeable, let them suffer trauma and lash out or make rash decisions because that’s what trauma can do to you, let them have unhealthy coping mechanisms, let them have redemptions - but don’t do so at the expensive of male abuse victims being seen as inferior and weak. Don’t do so at the expense of suggesting that men can’t be raped or can’t be abused by women. Don’t do so at the expense of saying “all men cannot be forgiven”. 

What the fuck sort of mentality are you providing to your audience with that? How are your male fans meant to recognise that they can be vulnerable and can be open and can improve if you don’t let the characters they watch do the same?

It’s so frustrating because they can write sympathetic characters. They can show what abuse does to you, how people cope, how that can become unhealthy - everything we see with Vriska in Pesterquest is evidence of this. But it’s reserved wholly for her, and then they go so far as to blame victims for being abused so that she doesn’t have to take responsibility for her actions. So that she can’t take criticism. 

God there’s just so fucking much wrong with it. Especially since, like, you’re right - they really have no authority to be saying any of this shit. If you don’t like the male characters, if you really couldn’t care for them less, that’s okay! You can focus on the women, build them up, make them detailed and developed, make them real - god knows we need that in media - but for the love of god don’t. Don’t shit on male abuse victims in the process.

#ardenttheories #homestuck^2 critical #homestuck critical #Anonymous

[ask-the-party-god]

Ask The Party God - Timeline

the pre-terezi-gang timeline post is here

height references over here

hi, im jade! everyones favorite party goddess and trans doggy girl~ but you already know that! if youre reading this, it means youre interested in learning more about my reality, because paradox space is fucking weird like that and you cant really be sure all the time

as far as im aware, everything up to the point where we beat the game happened without deviations from the alpha timeline? so this is what rose has talked about as a ‘terminal timeline’, or ‘post-canon’, or whatever the hell that is supposed to mean

we got to earth-c, and i settled in the troll kingdom because trolls are cool, dave and karkat were in the neighborhood, and the caverns are close by so i can visit rose and kanaya speedily as well! i still do have my old tower out on an island, with my workshop and garden, but i almost never sleep in it, too far away and isolated from everyone...

then one day i found this old active server in the furthest ring keeping tumblr active and i thought, hey, why not have some fun? ;D

as for the others...

my darling sis june egbert! she lives in the consort kingdom, but has been thinking about relocating elsewhere lately! she went through a rough patch right after the game, unsure of what to do and full of all sorts of doubts and questions, but shes doing a lot better nowadays! specially now that terezi is back, shes been a lot more peppy and hanging around with the lalondes particularly!

rose rose rose rose~ happily married to her wife kanaya, duh, but that doesnt make her any less of a flirty cutie! a while back she got really sick for a bit, and weve been keeping an eye on her just in case it happened again, but its been all good ever since! she helps kanaya at the caverns a bunch, which makes her schedule busy busy... and you didnt hear this from me, buuuut words out on the street that she and kanaya may be warming to the idea of having a kid! <3 well see how that goes!

one cool dude~ daves a little bit of a shut-in honestly! and honestly i dont blame him? he must be tired after all the timeline and time travel shenanigans, so he spends a good chunk of his time hanging out in his and karkats house! hes kind of awkward about opening up with feelings and stuff, and ive been trying to nudge him to be more open for a while! but with all the craziness thats been going down lately, and more people coming and going and getting together, hes starting to consider things he hadnt before~ hopefully, some specific someones? ;)

janey! my uh... ecto-mom, technically, although we see each other more like cousins than anything else! she still owns crockercorp, but ever since jasprose has been around, she has been spending a lot more time at home and just hanging out with her friends, which really, sounds a lot healthier than the big business thing she had going on a while back! she enjoys teaching me baking stuff, but doesnt have much patience for my decorating skills ;p

grandpa! and grandson technically, hehe, jakes kind of a weird case, hes a mixture of a shut-in, a celebrity and an adventurer! he can spend up to weeks at a time without leaving his manor, but then hell have full weeks of interviews and hiking, and thats not to say anything of when he and dirk put out another episode or two of their dumb comedy talkshow... hes often busy with stuff, but hes still a good pal and can clear his schedule in seconds if we need him for something!

one sweet nb dude! rox really is... something else, really! fun to tag along at a party, fun to chill at home playing games, fun to talk about more serious stuff and open up with him, he really is just solid as they come! hes been hanging out a lot more with june since she got out of her depressive slump, but sometimes i wonder if junebug finds weird to get flirty with roxy, considering im pretty sure we made out in front of her at some point or two... hehehe

dirk! if daves a bit of a shut-in, hes a shut-in times two, which is weird because youd think someone stuck in post-apocalyptic earth for so long would want to hang out more? not to say he DOESNT, though! hes around jake often enough, and keeps close to jane, roxy and dave specially! we dont see each other too often, but we HAVE been messing around with robots and planning out to upgrade our respective self-bots for funsies!

aradia! we only met briefly in dreams for the longest time, but i knew already that she was a riot! she came with terezis group after she finally found vriska, and seems pretty happy just... kind of... being around and watching shenanigans ensue! i actually dont know where she lives, but she drops by occasionally, because im apparently pretty ‘fun’... cant say i disagree ;)

sollux is blind, and not dead, and WILL kick you in the shins if you keep prying about how exactly he ended up like that, which is fair enough! he spends a good chunk of his time with aradia, and im not sure if theyre dating or not...? but hes been around the other trolls a bunch! specially kanaya, apparently theyre good friends that go way back! i guess they both DO style their hair similarly, with the side spike thingies...

the other half of the dave-kat duo! swooooon~ really though, i cant remember the last time i said “dave” or “karkat” without talking about the other shortly after... buuut theyre just roomies, and hell get awkward and grumpy if you even so slightly IMPLY otherwise, despite the fact everyone knows they fall asleep leaning against each other during friday movie night! roooolling my eyes~ with the rest of the living trolls having arrived, hes been a lot more willing to go outside, which im glad for! its healthy to get some fresh air from time to time, and specially hang out with friends!

oh-la-la, miss maryam-lalonde herself! kanayas the matriarch of the caverns, and quite the busy gal, having taken it upon herself to supervise her entire species reproduction and well-being... in my opinion, she needs a good vacation from time to time, and to be less of a workaholic! >:o ive been helping her occasionally in the caverns, and as of late weve begun trying to mess around with ectobiology for some troll-human crossing experiments with... not good results so far... but hey, rome wasnt built in a day!

terezis back, yes! after spending YEARS out there looking for vriska, she managed to find her and come back, the madwoman! personally im not sure why anyone would go to such lengths for... her... but also, its not my bond, not my place to speak, she obviously really loves her a bunch! with vriska no longer lost in the middle of the furthest ring, shes started to catch up with everything going on with earth-c, and i think shes really going to like being around! specially with how much june and the rest have missed her ;)

troublemaker extraordinaire herself! shes... well, shes vriska, im pretty sure she stole that eyepatch from sollux? so you just know she up to no good already >:/ speaking of her eyepatch, im not sure WHY shes wearing it? whatever kinda wound she got, she doesnt like mentioning it, despite bragging about defeating english at every chance she gets! terezi says they found her popping in and out of consciousness in the furthest ring with some messy wounds, and that shed probably been hovering out there after the fight for years... doesnt seem to have humbled her in the slightest <.<

callieeeee! theyre super sweet and wonderful but also really shy and awkward! they live with roxy but manage to outdo dirk in terms of shut-in-ness... they also totally like roxy but is unsure about approaching those feelings considering the whole species thing and whatever, ive been trying to get them to open up for a while now! weve written fanfic together and drawn grids, so i can definitely tell theres some attraction there, even if theyre afraid of acting upon it just yet <3

jaspie is roses bane, and the one cat that made me get used to their smell enough that i dont bark at them instantly anymore! im pretty sure she crashes at janes often, and is just as outgoing and flirty as i am around earth-c parties and bars, which is saying something honestly! i wont let her dethrone me as the party god, though >:)

and finally davepeta! theyre staying with june for the time being until they can get settled around and see what they want to do here! theyve also dropped by dave and karkats a bunch, which i most certainly dont mind! i definitely appreciate some help in bringing a romantic vibe into those twos lives~ ;o

and thats about it! theres also the nannasprites and tavrosprite and arquius, but they pop by so sporadically and rarely that i dont know what theyre doing a majority of the time... we lost track of gamzee after the session so hopefully hes totally gone, and we havent heard any message from caliborn in years... and with the furthest ring broken and the black hole sealed, leaving a weird white empty space right in the middle of reality, im not sure what our chances of bringing back the other trolls are :( but still, we keep living on happily over here and having our fun slice of life ending together!

id say after everything weve gone through, we deserve a big break, dont we? hehehe <3

also, particularly important events that happen and are recorded in this blog will be tagged as timeline shenanigans!

#homestuck #party god #jade harley #timeline shenanigans #june egbert #rose lalonde #dave strider #jane crocker #jake english #roxy lalonde #dirk strider #aradia megido #sollux captor #karkat vantas #kanaya maryam #terezi pyrope #vriska serket #calliope #jasprose #davepeta

[solarianradiance]

It was high noon, and not a cowboy in sight, which was a good thing, because a shoot out at this place would be pretty bad, considering its supposed to be a sanctified church like structure reserved for the Gods, namely you, Rose Lalonde, and your Wife, Kanaya Maryam, and your mutual friend, Terezi Pyrope.

You have come to this Church of Cousulars.

Well, it's actually called a Temple of Consolment, but you like your title far more. Temple is a good word, but this place is much more Church like of the Roman Catholic faith with some Germanic Gothic influences. Smooth, polished marble make up the majority of the structure, pillars holding up key points of the ceilings, golden trimmings line the carved walls, and stain glass windows crafted in yours and your companions images give off a potent colorful glow that puts you at a wholesome ease.

Bit garish and needlessly opulent, the Carapaces insisted on it being built and is somewhat impractical, but you rather like it. Might be your inner Goth speaking, but you like your inner Goth and agree with her tastes.

As for the reason you have come to this place, it is rather dour, a harsh contrast to this archtectural palace of aristocratic delight.

You have summoned your Brother Dave and his "brother from another mother-... grub" Karkat for a meeting between you and your companions to discuss John's condition.

Said condition was what you would have called concerning when Kanaya found him. But after having spent a few weeks gauging his state, you have changed you mind on the matter.

It has gone from concerning to quite troubling.

And now you hear a "thap" from something that struck your cheek, and something hard falling to the table with a sharp "clack" echoing through the chamber.

Its a skittle.

Terezi: L4LOND3!!!

Rose: Whu- Rose: What?!

Terezi: F1N4LLY! Terezi: 1 H4V3 YOUR 4TT3NT1ON! Terezi: YOU W3R3 B31NG V3RY RUD3 W1TH YOUR N1GHT DR34M1NG 4ND 1GNOR1NG OF M3! Terezi: SUCH 4 POOR HOST, B3TW33N TH1S 4ND YOUR L4CK OF C4T3R1NG TO M3 FROM L4ST N1GHT, 1T L34V3S L1TTL3 TO WOND3R 4S TO WHY TH3 WORLD 1S TH3 W4Y 1T 1S. >:[ Terezi: 4LSO D4V3 1S H3R3. >:D

Dave: sup

Rose: Hello Dave, is my dear sibling fairing well I hope?

Dave: yeah he is Dave: probably better than you considering i dont think i ever saw you look off into a daze like that Dave: like looking at a catatonic chick in her own world Dave: belong in a japanese anime hospital or japanese style house or something

Rose: Or just watching too much shitty anime with my bro.

Dave: that too Dave: anyways what were you thinking about

Rose: Our situation and why we are here. Rose: A particularly dire and grim one I would say. But nothing we can't handl-

Terezi: L4LOND3!

Rose: A good reason you are interrupting me I hope, fellow Seer?

Terezi: Y3S. Terezi: MY C4NDY TH4T PROJ3CT3D UPON YOU TO 4W4K3N YOU FROM YOUR STUP1D 1S ST1LL ON TH3 T4BL3. Terezi: WOULD YOU B3 SO K1ND 4S TO R3TURN 1T TO M3 4S 1 H4V3 3V3RY 1NT3NT1ON OF CONSUM1NG 1T.

Rose: You-... fine.

You reach towards the tasty looking sugary treat, it did not go far thankfully, and as you touch it upon picking it up, you are filled with a bit of regret because of how incredibly sticky it is and notice a thin shiny layer of saliva.

Rose: ...Terezi.

Terezi: WH4T L4LOND3?

Rose: Was this in your mouth?

Terezi: Y3S Terezi: 1T W4S 1N F4CT 1N MY MOUTH Terezi: FOR 1 W4S SUCC1NG ON 1T

Rose: Meaning you spat this at me?

Terezi: WH4T 4N 3XC3LL3NT D3DUCT1ON! Terezi: YOUR SK1LLS OF 1NV3ST1G4T1ON H4V3 TRULY 3VOLV3D TO TH3 PO1NT OF R1V4L1NG MY OWN! Terezi: V3RY P3RC3PT1V3 OF YOU. >:]

Rose: Just... Rose: Come over here and get it.

The teal blooded gremlin shuffles out of her chair in the 10 o'clock postion of room and steps onto the table without a care.

She struts across the stone furniture, utterly apathetic to the fact shes getting her shoes on an eating surface.

Granted you never ate here, but still, there is the chance it may happen one day. And this is just inappropriate! Even for her!

She stops in front of you with her cane stick, leering down upon you with her redshades, like a predator about to toy with her prey.

By the Elder Gods, she is such a ham!

Terezi: W3LL?

Shes expecting you to hand it to her. Of course. You hold up the skittle directly to her, waiting for her to tak- She just put her mouth onto your fingers holding the candy...

Rose: Ah!

She begins to suck on your digits, you feel the nubbing of her sharp teeth and the slimy licking of her tongue.

She pulls her mouth away from your finger, a thick rope of saliva stretching along. Chill takes your fingers, cold of the open air bashing the wetness that coats the digits.

Terezi: TH4NKS!~ :D

Rose: ...

She returns back to her seat, trodding across the table like she owns it. Which she does more or less. Still Rude And gross

Kanaya: That Was... Kanaya: Vulgar...

Dave: nice to know terezi hasnt changed since i last saw her

Terezi: ;]

Dave: unbroken blind girls aside Dave: you were saying why you called me up on such short notice? Dave: i mean its not like i had anything important to do today Dave: just seemed like you needed me here and now like in an emergency sort of way

Rose: Yes, more or less, this is kind of an emergency. Rose: Although emergencies are entirely absolutes, and there are no real in-between's other than "God I wish this was over" at family get togethers or Doctor's appointments that take forever to get started because of some random bullshit, like the current patient asking too many stupid question's that are of no consequence. Rose: But this projection has stalled me for long enough I suppose. Rose: The reason we have summoned you here today is... a dire and delicate one. Rose: It's mainly about John...

Dave: what is he like dead or something?

Rose: ...Uh...

Kanaya: Well... Not Exactly...

Dave: what is he like sick then?

Kanaya: More Like He Is-

Terezi: OH MY GOD Terezi: STOP B34T1NG 4ROUND TH3 SC4P3 FLUFF 4ND R1P TH3 B4ND-41D OFF 4LR34DY! Terezi: OR YOU KNOW WH4T? Terezi: FUCK 1T! Terezi: 1LL DO 1T MYS3LF! Terezi: JOHN D13D! Terezi: 4ND TH3N K4N4Y4 BROUGHT H1M B4CK TO L1F3 W1TH 4 SMOOCH~ Terezi: 4ND NOW W3 4R3 T4K1NG C4R3 OF H1M 4T TH31R PL4C3 4ND TRY1NG TO M4K3 H1M W3LL 4G41N WH1L3 W3 4LSO TRY TO D34L W1TH GLOB4L CR1S1S OF WORLD W4R 13 Terezi: WH1CH 1S WHY YOU 4R3 H34R Terezi: TH3R3! Terezi: B4ND-41D RIPP3D 4ND SC4B PICK3D~ :D

Rose: >:T

Kanaya: >:l

Dave: 8I

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^^^Preview of Heartsick chapter 7^^^

#homestuck #heartsick #terezi pyrope #dave strider #kanaya maryam #rose lalonde #long post

[incorrect-hs-quotes]

Vriska: my wife can sta8 me a little 8it i don’t care

#submission #terezi is the wife in question #for so many obvious reasons #terezi is allowed to stab #// #homestuck #incorrect homestuck quotes #vriska serket #terezi pyrope #vrisrezi #mod terezi #what's a little manslaughter between friends? #between lovers?

[clonerightsagenda]

The epilogues look terrible and I don’t want to spend my time reading them... but I love + trust your judgement and your takes on things. Could you summarize them? (No pressure if you don’t want to)

OK, it’s been a few weeks since i read it, but I will do my best.NOTE: This is probably not comprehensive and definitely not objective. As a supplement, I did some poking around, and the MSPA wiki has some bullet points. I also eventually found another  summary on tumblr, albeit by someone who also didn’t like it, so it is probably biased as well. 

ANOTHER NOTE: Those content warnings weren’t a joke. Below are references to sexual content, assault, suicide, sexism, transphobia, character death, and probably some other stuff.

WHAT HAPPENED:

In the prologue, Rose summons John to inform him that he needs to defeat Lord English right now, or they will all experience terrible consequences. These are mostly meta consequences you can interpret as ‘if we don’t produce new Homestuck content on its 10th anniversary, everyone will give up on this franchise for real, and also canon doesn’t seem stable when the big bad never got beaten’. John goes to visit Roxy and Calliope before he leaves and is given the option to eat either meet or candy. This represents a choice he is supposed to make, and that choice creates two timelines.

In MEAT, John travels back in time and gathers three 16 year old versions of his friends. They confront Caliborn in the battle he represented in his Masterpiece and are sucked into the house juju. Vriska activates it, but not before being pulled into the black hole. Rose and Jade die immediately, with Rose’s body being destroyed and Jade’s falling into the black hole, because why should women get to fight the story’s biggest misogynist. Dave lands a solid hit on English before having his head bitten off Mami from PMMM style. John gets chomped on as well and a gold tooth ends up embedded in his chest. Davepeta appears and drags the wounded LE into the black hole. John finds his father’s wallet, retrieves his car, and slumps inside. Terezi appears, in bad shape after a long time wandering the ring. She seems confused at his state (explained because in CANDY she has been texting that version of him for years). She removes the tooth from his chest and they have sex.

Meanwhile, on Earth, Dave and Karkat have avoided talking about being a relationship for seven years, while Jade harasses them about becoming a threesome. This is explicitly tied to her abandonment issues but also she is referred to as a slut so like. Don’t love that. Jane is running for president, and Dave thinks this is terrible because she’s a woman fascist and doesn’t understand the economy and Karkat should run instead. Other shit is happening but I lost track. Rose is ill because she’s becoming her ‘Ultimate Self’ and seeing all timelines. Dirk claims he’s overcome the same problem and offers to help her but ends up controlling her and revealing he is the one actually writing this narrative.  There is a bit where the narration starts addressing the reader directly and then turns orange which I admit is genuinely cool and might have been interesting if done with characters I didn’t actually care about.

Dirk amps up controlling the narrative, directly forcing people to do and think certain things. (For example, he sequesters Rose away in his workshop and tells Kanaya via narration she believes Rose is better off with him, and she uncomfortably agrees without understanding why she thinks that.) He supports Jane’s bid for the presidency, even though she wants to crack down on trolls because they are naturally violent and reproduce too fast. Everyone tries to get Jake’s endorsement because he’s popular, which includes Jane attempting to seduce him in a very uncomfortable scene.Then Jade slips into a nice coma, because it’s not Homestuck without Jade losing her agency, and alt!Calliope starts using her as an avatar to take control of the narrative away from Dirk. They have some back and forth arguments before he is pushed out which, again, is genuinely clever but would be more enjoyable without all the edgy bullshit. Dirk eventually tricks alt!Callie and sedates Jade, taking back control of the story. Jane wins the presidency. Also at some point Meat!Roxy and Callie ID as nonbinary and start using they/them, and narrator!Dirk freaks out about it and misgenders them a lot, which is character assassination bc everyone knows Dirk is a trans icon. Anyway. Dave and Karkat have an awkward talk about their relationship where they keep dancing around things and Dirk tries to force Dave to kiss him. Dave gets frustrated because he’s aware someone is trying to make him do something (like with the Aimless Renegade), and eventually yells at Dirk to get out of his head before kissing Karkat. Terezi brings John back to Earth, and he begins to fade, since apparently LE’s tooth was poisoned with something more powerful than god tier that makes you irrelevant. Possibly a meta commentary on the hero or story not being needed once the big bad is gone. Terezi is sad about this and listens to him bleed while she smells him die. Then Dirk contacts her via narration and implies he can help her. She gets a text (later revealed to be Vriska). Dirk gets a spaceship from Jake after forcing him via narration to grovel about how much he loves him and then rejecting him and flying away with Rose and Terezi in tow. Jade wakes up long enough to tell everyone Dirk’s gone bad before she gets repossessed and starts pointing in his direction, prompting everyone to give chase. 

There is a final scene that will make more sense later, so I’ll add it later.

CANDY

John decides not to go fight LE. Roxy is delighted, and they began dating. Calliope tells John it is time to let Gamzee out of the fridge. Gamzee pops out and claims he is redeemed in a long speech making fun of sloppy redemption arcs. He then proceeds to be terrible for the rest of the story.Candy essentially satirizes Harry Potter epilogue style fics. Jane marries Jake (it’s implied she essentially roofies him with the trickster lollipop) and has Gamzee on the side. They have a son named Tavros. John and Roxy have a son named Harry. Rose and Kanaya adopt a troll clone of Vriska and name her Vriska. Jade, Karkat, and Dave are all dating, but Dave and Karkat are miserable. Dirk kills himself when he realizes the timeline went off kilter. Jade’s corpse from the Meat timeline crashes to earth, and in the middle of the funeral (which was genuinely a good scene) she sits up, possessed by alt!Calliope. Alt!Callie sequesters herself on the old meteor, now landed, and explains to Aradia and Sollux that this timeline is a dead end and she is protecting it from the influence of the prince. She also, in a parallel to Dirk’s reveal in Meat, talks about how every narrator has an agenda even if the text is formatted to make you not realize that.Jane becomes a fascist dictator and begins oppressing trolls. Karkat eventually get sick of being in a trio and runs off to be a resistance leader, including getting a sick eye patch (reference to Summer Teen Romance). Meenah stole the Ring of Life from Meat John and lands in the session; she and Karkat begin dating. Other ghosts begin falling from the sky as well, and Gamzee converts them to his redemption religion.John feels like something is really off.  His only solace is texting Terezi a lot, and he seems closer to her than he is to his wife. He and Roxy break up for a while and then (non-romantically) reconcile. Jake eventually leaves Jane and takes Tavros with him. Jade and Dave become rebels as well, then Dave meets a hologram of Obama, who helps him attain his ultimate self, putting his soul in a new robot body. 

Oh, also Vriska falls out of the sky, has hatesex with Gamzee, kills him, and then talks with Rose and Kanaya’s Vriska about how she loves Terezi. Then she texts her, as seen in the Meat timeline. Isn’t Vriska 13 and Gamzee an adult at this point? Probably. There’s a lot of questionable age stuff in this.

I’m sure I missed some details. Can you tell I’m losing steam.

Anyway, the two last chapters of each section reference the other storyline. At the end of Meat, Lord English’s body falls out of the sky, and alt!Callie (still in Jade’s body) devours it, becoming powerful enough to battle Dirk. Candy!Davebot arrives and he and Aradia jump into the black hole in pursuit.At the end of Candy, Dirk’s ship nears a new planet where he intends a new game of SBURB to be played. Rose is in a robot body serving as his handmaid essentially, and Terezi’s also on board.  

TAKEAWAYS:

There are a lot of different interpretations of the epilogue. A mockery of the two extremes of fanfic. Andrew Hussie continuing the theme of ‘all authors are tyrants by nature’ and using his self-insert to display how he hates his own story but also can’t stop telling it. Dirk trying to create conflict by making himself a villain because otherwise they’ll lose relevance and disappear. Musing on how being arbitrarily labeled 'grown up’ when you’re not ready (aka handed godhood by a game that doesn’t understand people) can fuck you up, and there is no single winning screen in life. Just a big old meta experiment on unreliable narrators. I can see where some of this is coming from, but frankly, I found it disturbingly sexist (even if it is intended to be so for effect). A lot of the sex and violence felt over the top and graphic just to be #ow the edge rather than serving any narrative purpose. Also, authors can do what they want with their texts, and they’re allowed to write tragedies, but after Hussie’s self-insert informs Caliborn that the most important stories are about friendship and teamwork and the fandom (that I’ve seen anyway) really responding to the bonds between characters, it felt cruel. That’s my feeling. Not everyone shares it. But hey, I’ve got my solution.

#Anonymous #homestuck// #bluh bluh huge bitching alert

[gal-liveblogs]

So let’s just start with the beginning.

So it’s not just Homestuck 2, it’s Homestuck². That’s fun. Also it has a subtitle of “Beyond Canon”. Makes sense, given what went down in the Homestuck Epilogues. Kinda wish I had liveblogged those now, but I had been too excited. Legitimately spent an entire day reading. I was too focused to even think to liveblog those.

The ^2 looks handwritten and is orange, also makes sense given what happened in the Epilogues. Dirk has his fingers all over this. How much influence will he have, I wonder?

Now that I’ve spent so long staring at the title perhaps I should get to reading the actual comic? Perish the thought! There appears to be a link to an FAQ! Let’s check that out first.

Oh man, this is bringing back some nostalgia. Putting the questions in the exile command boxes is a nice touch.

It is actual Homestuck. That is, an extension to the "canonical" Homestuck storyline,

Those are some big quotation marks around canonical, after the mess the Epilogues were. Not to say the Epilogues were bad, they just flipped and twisted everything around and made you really question what was “real” in a story.

It was designed to include the writing and art contributions from fans of the series. Many writers will be involved, and collectively they will be allowed significant latitude in shaping the direction of the story and the way it's told.

Interesting. Homestuck itself was no stranger to having art done by someone other than Andrew Hussie and the Epilogues were written with the help of someone other than Hussie. Even Homestuck was not solely written by Hussie, in the beginning fans wrote the commands that propelled the story forward. Plus we have Hiveswap, Friendsim, and Pesterquest all belonging to the Homestuck mythos but made by a team only overseen by Hussie. Homestuck 2 seems to be falling in line with the games. Different people make it and bring their own ideas to it, all while Hussie occasionally peeks in to give his nod of approval.

An "official fanonization" of the ongoing epic, if you will.

I can’t wait to see what happens. This is such a weird idea and I love it.

Oh my god. The Epilogues started off with a spoof as if they were written on Archive of Our Own, and now the recap of them is spoofing SparkNotes. Glorious.

Reading through said recap just so all the important bits are fresh in my mind (never skipped the Homestuck recaps, so I’m not skipping the Epilogue recap) and come across this:

In the heat of the moment, the two embrace passionately.

That’s an understatement. John and Terezi boned n the back of a car. Stiiiiill don’t know how to feel about that. Like, Terezi was flying around in Paradox Sapce for who knows how long from her perspective. Everyone else, including John, grew up and became adults. Was Terezi also an adult by this time, or did John just have sex with a minor?

They then fuck in the back of the car and there's really all there is to say on the matter.

Oh. So the previous sentence wasn’t an understatement. I just hadn’t read far enough yet.

But when they arrive, our hero finally succumbs to LE's venom, which has the effect of corroding a person's canonical existence beyond any hope of revival.

AKA, we really needed John to die but also didn’t want to deal with godtier revival rules.

Jade, who is now somehow aware of Dirk's influence, declares that he must be stopped. Dirk agrees with her, claiming his role as the villain of the story outright. He accepts the intrinsic antagonism of his narrative power, and has decided to carry that antagonism to its natural conclusion. He states that his eventual death will be Just.

Dirk is such a fascinating character. He has always been painfully aware of his faults. Yet he doesn’t try to stop himself. He has just accepted that he is not a good person and even encourages everyone else to give up on him. He is full of so much self-loathing and yet he does it all without any self-pity. It is truly something I have never seen in a character before.

Calliope distracts him with one final task: he must rescue Gamzee, who she insists deserves to begin his redemption arc immediately.

Gamzee used to be a fascinating character to me. I had so many questions about him. How much of his fall was out of his control? Was he to blame for everything? Outside forces? Mental instability? Then the Epilogues happened and I finally had to give up on him. I couldn’t hold out the hope that Gamzee could be a good character (if not a good person). Everyone who hated him were right all along. Gamzee is just a trash clown and should have stayed in the fridge.

As Jane joins in with Jake's day drinking, she attempts to seduce him but is ignored. Not to be denied, she resorts to using the terrible power of the trickster lollipop. The two sleep together. When they come to, Jake is alarmed by his lack of consent in the matter--Jane manages to talk him into a committed relationship.

Speaking of characters I gave up on: Jane. I never really had any strong feelings about Jane in Homestuck. She wasn’t interesting, but I didn’t dislike her. She was just... there. Had a few moments that really hit me in the feels, but overall kind of forgettable. Then in the Epilogue he not only turns into a xenophobic fascist, but she also pulls stuff like this. For all her pining over Jake she never actually did care about him it would seem. He wasn’t a person, he was a prize.

I didn’t care about Jake either, and he often annoyed me, but he deserved better than always ending up as Jane’s sex toy without any autonomy.

Gamzee has started performing public redemptions featuring sloppy makeouts and baby bottles full of Jane's breastmilk.

Seriously, Gamzee is just the worst. I hate him. Before the Epilogues the only character I hated was Kankri, but I hate Gamzee now too. This is also a reason why Jane has sunk so low in my standing with her.

They're interrupted by Gamzee, who tries to manipulate Vriska into a sexual relationship in the name of "redemption".

Now here is a sexual encounter that is without question involving a minor. Another reason to hate Gamzee.

She no longer cares if this reality is true, relevant or essential, and is enjoying the simple happiness of loving her wife and daughter.

This was a really sweet moment. Rose always did have a hard time just letting herself be happy.

Phew, O.K., done with the recap. Back to the FAQ!

Oh sweet, optimisticDuelist is part of the writing team for Homestuck 2! I’ve seen some of their stuff. It’s good stuff. Keep meaning to do a deep dive into all their analysis of Homestuck. Also Xamag is the art lead. Nice.

Homestuck has a Patreon now. Neat. Need to pay they people at What Pumpkin after all!

> Is this canon?

It's being pulled further away from direct control by the original author, and allowed to expand into spaces governed by fandom desire - a fanontinuum, you might say.

I’ve always liked the literary lens of Death of the Author. Homestuck 2 is diving head first into it. Yes, there is still an author (or authors, as the case may be), but The Author of Hussie is having less and less control (which makes sense from a narrative standpoint as Hussie, The Author, died in the story to really cement Death of the Author) and the fans are encouraged to take things into their own hands more and more. Homestuck is built by the fans and as such fan-created stories should have the same amount of importance as “canon” does.

> I just can't get enough Homestuck. I want to shove more and more of it into my slavering maw. Please help me.

Did they just plagiarize my diary?

Alright. Now I can start the dang comic!

In the next post. This one is getting a little long.

> Get on with it.

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[alden-emroch]

Homestuck candy epilogue: My opinion

Okay i need to say this first: i haven’t read the meat one, this are my opinions on candy without looking at the other one.

This...was an experience certainly, i read non stop until i finished it, but half on it i realized: i didn’t like it. But, at the same time there were things i did like. -First, i like the fact that they wanted John to choose and so to us to choose and see the two timelines, i choosed candy first cause i wanted to se the consequences of staying and at the beggining i was happy about it, i liked that roxy was happy about John staying and that, but then...Gamzee.

-I don’t know ,even if it was planned by Hussie but i really HATED how this was done, i can understand the whole thing of ‘’oh he need a chance’’ he had many dude, he had many and every time he did things worst, but suddenly he’s sorry? My it would be better if they went with my now old old theory of Gamzee being crazy because of the effects of the weird green liquid he dranks at the beggining, the one everyone said it was toxic? when i read about it at the time, i assumed he went nuts cause that thing fried his brain and even tho is a bit dumb, that for me would be more normal than ‘’oh i’m sorry just cause i was in the fridge’’ at least John knew how messed up the situation was. -I have no complains about Kanaya and Rose i think they stayed in character and they were probably the best ones here.

-I had a bad feeling about this weird sht of JadexKarkatxDave, more like JadexDave and let’s ruin karkat. Okay but seriously, DaveKat is one of my favorite shipps since i saw them at the end of homestuck but they got so ruined in here, not just because Jade was so intrusive (and out of character when she did that) but cause Karkat was still being mean to Dave, and okay listen i know i know...that’s his personality but, they were together for years and nothing changed? He was nice with Terezi back then he showed signs of caring and love at his way and i can understand his behavior cause he was young but...he’s almost an adult then, he knows about Dave’s childhood , then why he doesn’t support him or is more loving ? Like, if they’re together for so long it’s normal to support each other, or at least, talk normaly and calmly, but he shouts everytime Dave teases him a little, which makes the couple look toxic and i would understand if they got appart cause of that but at the end of the story they miss each other like?? if they liked each other so much why writte them like that, this plot of Jade karkat and Dave was managed so bad... They even showed that almost kiss after Dirks death which means, karkat cared karkat supported , but just that one time? why nothing happen? nothing was explained, the next thing we knew was they were fighting BECAUSE OF JADE, no of them but Jade, Dave wasn’t brave enough to tell her to go away of give them sometime or just talk??? idk i’m not gonna say more cause i can talk about this for hours but yeah, i’m really angry how bad they did this. -Oh yeah , Jane x Jake is the worst shit ever, seriously, i can understand the shipp, but not only was the worst way i’ve seen a couple start but the worst abusive relationship, Jade had plans and when she saw all of it crush inmediatly went ‘’oh yeah i liked jake didn’t i? let’s go’’ , like ...????. Jake is weak i understand but, he doesn’t have any respect for himself or what??? And no one told him to the damn face how bad was the thing? like , everyone knew about how bad things were but no one did anything except john...kinda. And he just accepted this relationship cause he still felt something towars Jane but....dude at least think a bit about it, how do you know that’s still love or pitty. And seeing how much i hate Gamzee words cannot express how furious i was about that Gamzee x Jane x Jake, at a certain point i didn’t even read anymore the dialogue of Gamzee with Jane, i just felt sick, specially seeing that she was with Gamzee like a kissmesis but put Jake in a corner all the time except when her father died. At least i’m glad Jake finally noticed and left with his son.

-Calliope went missing like half of the story and suddenly returned and we didn’t know nearly anything besides ‘’she was with roxy’’.

-Roxy x John was too rushed tbh , if i think of this as a fanfic i can understand it tho. -Godamnit Dirk with your stupid villain stuff, i don’t like it nor understand this, the only way i could understand his motives were ‘’I’m bored and if there’s nothing interesting to do let’s just die’’  but the fact of the robot in his room tells me he had it planned waay before so...what? Why? They didn’t explained much in candy so idk, maybe his motives are actually well explained (or not) -Even tho DaveKat was managed poorly i think Dave was one of the few ones that stayed in character, he didn’t suddenly chanded he matured and that was fine, except for the ending , i will talk about that in the end. -I really hate Gamzee here goddammit. -Kanaya and Rose naming her daughter Vriska is really disturbing, but at least john acknowledges this. -Did they just confirmed that Jade has a d- ck? Why tho? I don’t think it was needed (i don’t know if i understood that one good but i think that is the thing (Candy 18)) -This may be a unpopular opinion but i don’t care about the sons enough to read a whole page of them talking? And i don’t like them either, they bully Tavros a lot, in fact Tavros is like my favorite but he doesn’t talk much? He has this scene of John trying to get him out cause he’s scared of gamzee trying to touch him BUT NO ONE DOES NOTHING BESIDES JOHN? and this gots forgotten, what happen? What Tavros thinks? Why he talks so little? I was genuinly worried about this kid but he didn’t have enough time. The sons are more like plot devices, they just talk and in the middle of it they explaing what’s happening, so i didn’t care that much, too bad :/ -I’m glad John called Jade about her horrible behaviour, even tho she does nearly nothing about it, she doesn’t have a part where she thinks if the things she did were wrong or not, i wish we had that, but no. -I’m happy about Karkat being the leader of the rebels but i think the war it’s just stupid...makes me remember that movie about flash and time traveling to save her mother resulting in a world war of aquaman with wonderwoman just cause he kinda cheated on her or something like that, i feel the reason of the war in here just as stupid, glad to see everyone thinks the same.in the story. (Even so, karkat is so cool being the leader, sorry, i had to) -The thing about Terezi Dying genuinly make me tear a little :c -Why didn’t John said to Dave that Karkat was in the party? Like...what matters? he’s married at that moment, just knowing is not gonna change a thing, after all they’re in war. -WHY THE HELL gamzee ducks so many people???? Why????? Damn even vriska!! At least she killed him , i was so happy about that. -The talk John has with Roxy was so good gosh, it was one of the best things there, she nailed it and make me emotional for a while, i wish i can explain more why i like it so much but that can be in another post. -Okay finally What the hell happen at the end? I mean, to me is a bit obvious this was a trick made by Dirk, this was to much of a coincidente, but not just that, Dave character broke entirley here for me. When he starts to talk about Karkat i was really crying , mostly because of how much Dave was suffering for this, he almos never ever cries, but he was tearing his eyes out in here, he let everything he was suppresing go and he just said ‘’ I miss him’’ and ‘’I love jade’’ , he still can do so much and he still has things to do, but when they offered the robot, he doesn’t think at all and just goes?? Why????? Like i get it the thing about Obama and that but...hes an adult, he’s smart he didn’t think more than that? He has a wife , he obviously wants to talk to karkat more but he trows all that to the trash and says ‘’yeah let’s go’’????  If you tell me this happens cause Dirk is doing stuff to the narrative...that’s not good, not at all, this whole thing about him controlling the narration is messed up and it feels so OP, it feels so stupid like Vriska being the ‘’true hero we all needed’’ just cause Hussie liked her so much to make her almost the damn main character in the ending. Trowing Dave dreams like that, not even letting him to question everything, if the last part was manipulated to make him choose the ultimate self, then means Dirk needs a restriction in his power before that, or else, the plot itself doesn’t make any fucking sense, because he would just choose everything for everyone and that’s just stupid, it just makes the whole story a literal fanfiction made by him, which is honestly really dissapointing. But anyway, those are all my thoughs about the candy one, it’s just my opinion about it.

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