!!! YEAH i get so hung up over this because it’s just proof that michael isn’t this one-way street like he got stereotyped as for years??? he really does listen to people and what they have to say and all it took was someone who he listened to and who listened to him in turn for michael to sway from his usual path. instead of he and adam both being one-way streets at each other they connected and made it a two-way street and from there everything just took off, vs. yeah how you said: even when lucifer’s own son was in the playing field, he just refused to stop. which sort of contrasts with the way he wanted him and michael to just walk off the playing field in 5x22?
so basically when you think about it it’s like…lucifer almost seems to value the archangels + god more? he was willing to give it up for michael (+ y'all remember when lucifer defended god to amara?) but didn’t seem to care at all when it came to jack. and michael actually seems to be the one who values outside perspectives more: where he shrugged lucifer off entirely in 5x22, he actually did show signs of listening to dean in 5x13 (even though he refuted everything back then) and he listened to each and every one of adam’s words in 15x08 even though he didn’t agree. it’s extremely interesting how the fallen archangel is the one who displays more ties to the og family than the good son who ruled heaven for the family for millennia.
although 15x19 fucked it up beyond belief (thanks for nothing bucklemming), the entire idea of michael and lucifer switching sides with michael becoming the rebel and lucifer becoming god’s right hand was good because it matched up with previously established lines of reasoning. lucifer was said to be god’s favorite all the way back in season five, and in season 11 it was proven that no matter how resentful he was at god he was still willing to work with him (and fucking defend him!!! to amara!!!). michael (with me making use of one of the only salvageable lines in 15x19) said it himself: “i did what i did because it was the right thing to do, not to get his love.” and even back in 5x13: “i am going to kill him because it is right and i have to.” michael does not work based on familial ties, he works based on what he thinks is right. for him, sometimes the right thing to do for him is following his father’s orders because god was the one who brought him into existence—"i exist because he willed it!“—and other times the right thing to do is handing a spell to trap his father over to the people he despises because his father aims to destroy everything in existence.
anyway i went off on a winding tangent here but tldr YEAH the differences between michael and lucifer and how interpersonal relationships affect their view of the world and how they interact with it…yeah.