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#that might be the song released after ep5
tehohaews · 3 years
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Hi :-) I read your tags to my post <3 I think (dread) what will happen is this: Teh will get everything he ever wanted: the brilliant career as an actor AND he will get Jai, the boyfriend who wants the same things Teh wants and who understands him in a way Oh-aew doesnt (barf). The show has spent most time this season on building up Tehjai and I think they believe this is the new grand love story we're supposed to root for (thus the longing looks between them). We'll get a final conversation between Teh and Oh-aew after the next time jump where Oh says that Teh really is better off with Jai and should totally fight for him. Oh-aew himself will get an office job which is the final image we'll see of him. No love story for him obviously. I honestly don't see any other way this season could end...
I had more to say in the tags of that post but i reached the tag limit 🚶‍♀️🚶‍♀️🚶‍♀️. Anyway i keep remembering what oab said about his role that "Jai is a character that is there to test ohaew and teh's love for each other" so idk i dont see a tehjai endgame cause of that. But tbh yeah they really spent more time developing tehjai than they spent it on showing teh's and ohaew's relationship. But idk i dont see jai choosing teh cause jai has high ambitions and he doesnt want to be tied down with someone (hence why he left james in the first place and omg bitch even had the audacity to mourn why james didnt come to his play). So in ep5 unless Teh is hugely successful or smth i dont see Jai choosing him, but if Teh really is HUGELY successful you bet Jai will be the first person who'll come running lol. And i dont think Teh will be HUGELY successful so i dont see a tehjai endgame + oab's words. So my prediction for ep5 is that there will be a timejump of one year (as much as i want it to be 10 years, they said it was a story spanning 4-5 years? So yeah 😩). Ohaew, my son, the loml, my sunshine, is doing amazing in life and got a nice job and is living his dreams 🥺💞💞 when one day he has to work on this project with Teh. And like Oh Aew might be the one whose trying to be professional and out some distance and Teh is just like bestie its been a while i miss you lets grab a bite and my son agrees. So in the talk Teh is like i have grown™ and have changed™ and im sorry™ for everything (itsay ep1 ending 😚) and ohaew might be like i m okay with being friends again but idk if i can be more than that (itsay ep1 ending again 😚) and then they might leave it at that AN OPEN ENDING that's what im saying lol. And they might show us a few of their moments later like yeah besties something will happen between them later lol. Idk to me that's the only route this could take cause ik this is nadao but i really dont think (after my ambulance) they'll completely disband (lol) tehohaew. But the real thing I'm worried about is that they'll not give Teh the redemption arc cause if ep4 was supposed to make me feel 1% for him im sorry it didnt work. I dont buy that he is remorseful even when he went to Q's to apologise to oh. He did it cause he has no one now and like i said earlier, if jai reciprocated his feelings, ohaew would've been a passing thought. The line "i never thought you’d break up with me" was so fucking stupid like yeah I'll go and kiss other people behind your back but i wont break up with you 🥰🥰. And imo they tried to victimize teh by showing how lonely and miserable he was (also there's this clip linetv released where teh had a convo with his mom and he was like mai i got the role but im sad). So yeah teh's redemption arc might not even happen they'll just throw it under the rug with a time jump. If they did the breakup earlier in the ep then they could have showed us more of teh's suffering (🥰) and make him realize his guilt but yeah ig tehjai longing scenes are more important 🥰🥰
#asks#london-2001#ipytm rel#also another thing that came across my mind is that#the song they sang at the bar scene#that might be the song released after ep5#it sounds hopeful and it might go with the open ending theory#i think we'll definitely get that song at some point#but lmao teh sang that song looking at jai and if this is the song for ep5 tehohaew its just wrong#im just so tired of all of this#one bad choice on top of the other#did someone even watch the entire show after it was done like let's see what we have here#they focused more on the plot and how many problems they could create#rather than the development of its characters#ohaew is even less than a side character now i really thought this ep would be from his pov but ig we csnt have nice things#ep1 and ep2 were so good they were heading in the right direction#they knew what they were doing and where they were headed#but ep3 and 4 are like 😀😀😀 what is the point of this what am i gonna learn from this#i heard that billkin said when he got the script he was confused cause he did not get teh's actions at all#and if someone who literally plays the character doesnt get it idk what more to say 😀😀😀#im sorry ive had enough of people trying to justify everything and say that this is art™ and the fact that this is making ppl feel sm is#extraordinary or smth#like you do you folks but i have accepted that this sequel just sucks and no meta or anything can change my mind#also i wish ppl would stop bringing itsay teh into this#itsay teh and ipytm teh are two different entities#im just hoping for all of this to end soon so i can go to therapy and forget about it#i dont want it to ruin my memories with itsay#sad tho :(( we'll have them for 6more days only but i cant enjoy it :((#also another thing ipytm standalone is a good series with good cinematography and such#but as a sequel to itsay this is just not it
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xianmudelaozu · 4 years
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*; OOC » SO I was rewatching the animation with my best friend while staying at her place bc my electricity was down and because I hate leaving things unfinished and also bc I was maybe trying to refresh my memory a bit for oc development reasons I continued watching where we left off.......
AND I COULDNT HELP BUT PULL OUT MY CALCULATOR AGAIN! Join me on Age/Timeline calculator road! (or skip to the bottom to read what I have come up with)
So, referencing this post of mine, we are safe to assume “it’s Year 25 when the Yiling Patriarch died. He’s been dead for 13 years which makes it the Year 38.” Easy as that. Basic Math, am I right? Cool, moving on.
Now, what I know is, that JC and WWX were about 15 when studying at Gusu, right? The study was supposed to last a year (it did for JC, but WWX got kicked out) which means JC was 16 when he returned from Gusu. At a certain flashback we hear Madam Yu’s voice claiming the boys are 16 and 17, and knowing WWX is older, it’s safe to assume it was after JC returned to Lotus Pier from Gusu. 
Then, the Archery contest, thing... stuff you know Discussion Conference happened shortly after, followed by Wen Chao feeling humiliated and the Wen Clan destroying several clans, including the burning of Gusu’s Cloud Recess and the uhm.... recruitment of the other Clan’s students and them having to turn in their swords yadda yadda.
It is save to assume there wasn’t too much time in between those happening, let it be a month maybe, but JC and WW were still 16/17 respectively. So, they get pushed around by Wen Chao, find the turtle, rest 3 days, kill the turtle, recover 7 days (?) all in the same year. We also know WWX was younger than 20 as commented by JC that he killed such a wild beast before reaching adulthood (Age 20)
Madam Yu and JFM get into a fight. JFM leaves assumed for several days, (since Yanli is there when WWX wakes up but is stated to ‘have left 2 days ago’ the night the Wen’s attack). Lotus Pier fell in a single night, meaning that was a quick defeat.
It takes Lan Xichen several months (as stated by his uncle at his return to Gusu) to gather the clans for their cause.  I guess it’s save to assume (since MXTX is like fuck timelines) That there possibly is a span of two or three months between attack on Gusu and the attack on Lotus Pier given the above statement.
WWX and JC wander for a few days before returning to Lotus Pier, where they stay for 5 days until Wen Chao’s returns. It is not stated how long it takes them to get to Baoshan Sanren’s mountain, but I’m assuming a few weeks. It is then that WWX gets attacked and thrown into the Burial Mounds.
I say, this might have all spiraled down in the span of a year, give or take a few months.
Fast forward to Sunshot Campaign starts. It is said their first attempt to take the Nightless City was unsuccessful which is why they split up and started smaller territorial battles. Now, War aint done in just a few weeks, so I guess it took a while. H O W E V E R, when Wen Chao attacks Chongyang he taunts JC and LWJ by saying he threw WWX into Burial Mounds a few days ago, so maybe it’s only been a week or two since the Sunshot Campaign started. Or Wen Chao is just a prick yknow. 
EDIT 1: I forgot, the Sunshot Campaign is said to have been taken 10 days, or rather that the Clans fought the Wen for 10 days in total, so I guess that fixes that. If we say Wen Chao threw WWX into the mountain “a few days ago”, however long that was, WWX joined somewhere in the middle of those 10 days.
EDIT 2: Season 2 literally starts with the Nightless City being stormed in Year 23 and it is said to have lasted several weeks and ends with the Fall of Wen Rouhan.
WWX joining JC back when returning to Lotus Pier. The animation flashes ‘back’ to current times after his awakening titled “16 years later” --- he died 13 years ago. So he’s been acting as the Yiling Patriarch for 3 years before he died. that is safe to assume. Also fits with Sizhui being 3 years old when he was found by LWJ after WWX died.
What else we know is that Jing Ling is 15 (edit: at the end of the story! in the beginning he’s 14, close to 15 I believe) and Sizhui is 16. which means there is a roughly 2 year gap between the bloodbath of Nightless City and the Siege of Burial Mounts where WWX died in Year 25.
EDIT 3: It is questionable if the Sunshot Campaign really lasted about a year, but we have two different time stamps. One, with the Animation showing us Wei Wuxian being thrown into Burial Mounds and rejoining JC and JYL in Lotus Pier being 16 years before his resurrection, and another with S2 opening saying The Nightless City/Wen Rouhan fell in the year 23 in a battle that lasted several weeks. 
Then again, we are told the Clans fought the Wen for 10 days which is just confusing the fuck out of me not gonna lie. How I understand it, the 10 Days/Several weeks are probably referencing the same period of time and refer to ONLY the battle of the Nightless City where Wen Rouhan fell and not the whole Sunshot Campaign. That would definitely make more sense anyway. 
So we have Year 22 with the start and year 23 with the end of the Sunshot Campaign, leaving 2 more years until WWX’s death. We know the Lanling Jin Sect enslaved the remaining Wen in the same year. (S2, EP15 mentions those events to be 15 years ago. 38-15=23). Notable things WWX did in those two years are, resurrecting Wen Ning, taking in the remnants of the Wen, punching Jiang Cheng in the face leaving the Yungmeng Jiang Sect, awakening Wen Ning’s consciousness.
The Animation notes that “the issue” at Qiongqi Path took place “one year later”. Since Jin Ling was born in November and WWX was on his way to the one month birthday anniversary, I think it is just referring to “the next year” and not directly a year later, unless of course you take into consideration Jin Ling was still 14 at the beginning of the story (which I assumed was just bc he has a late birthday in November) but he might actually been born in Year 24! Tho the evidence suggests it is at the end of Year 24 (specifically December since JL was born in November and aged 1 month) that WWX and Wen Ning are on their way to the 1-Month-Banquet and WWX loses control and kills JZX..
Edit 4: It’s later referred to again that ‘the person [that cast the curse on JZX1] has reappeared after 14 years”, so it is save to say Jin Ling was born in November of Year 24 and his father died a month later in December. Since WWX died in the Year 25 it is safe to assume, with everything taking place at the end of Year 24, he died very early in the Year 25, most likely still in January. That is, however, like most of the rambling I put in here, purely speculation and assumptions. Tho I do believe it is closer to being accurate than my first half assed attempted at trying to figure out the timeline.
That concludes the timeline/years of Mo Dao Zu Shi so far as I can tell up to the beginning of the story!
Regarding the matter of Xue Yang and XXC, I have the following theorie which is mostly just speculation and assumptions! Feel free to hash it out more or get inspired by it if you will.
NHS mentions that about 11 years prior (of the current year) the trouble at the stone castles began, which was shortly after he was appointed sect leader because Nie Mingjue died. That leads to assume NMJ died in the year 26 or 27. 
Xue Yang was imprisoned after WWX died and NMJ was still alive, so around year 25-26 (if we assume WWX died very early in January year 25 as mentioned above). Xue Yang was released AFTER NMJ died, probably in the same year (26-27) and then went on to get his revenge on Baixue Temple before returning to Lanling Jin Sect. 
He helped JGY to plot JGS's death and once that succeeded, he was captured and abused before released/escaping prison. Then, XXC and AQing found him. If we assume, this all happened until Year 27. 
During Year 27, he probably recovered from his injuries. We do not know how many years Xue Yang stayed with XXC, but it was at least 2 because he mentioned going night hunting with XXC 'two years ago', but given the fact his injuries needed to heal for several months I personally think he spend a year recovering and then started night hunting with XXC and stayed for the aforementioned two years = a total of 3 years
That would make it Year 30 - 8 years prior to WWX's resurrection - when he is found out and fights XXC and collects his shattered soul, as well as killing A-Qing
SO the only year we are explicitly given is the Year 25 when the Yiling Patriarch died and Year 23 when the Sunshot Campaign ended/Wen Rouhan died. Going from there, this is all speculations of timelines/ages unless we know the year/gap we’re given
* the happenings concerning Xue Yang, Song Lan, Xiao Xingchen and A-Qing are PURELY speculation on my part!
YEAR 20 - JC and WWX study at Gusu 
(JC Age 15, WWX Age 16)
YEAR 21 - JC returns from his 1 year trip to Gusu 
(JC: 16/ WWX: 17)
LATE YEAR 21 - EARLY YEAR 22 - Archery Competition/Discussion Conference in the Nightless City. Destruction of Cloud Recess, abduction of the Students by the Wen, death of the turtle. 
(JC about 17, WWX 18)
(- 16 years) YEAR 22 - Start of the Sunshot Campaign. WWX becomes the Yiling Patriarch/Develops Demonic Cultivation 
(JC: 17, WWX: 18) // Sizhui is born (just for reference) My heart bleeds imagining JC was just sweet 17 hot damn
(-15 years) YEAR 23 - END of the Sunshot Campaign / Death of Wen Rouhan (confirmed in S2 EP1 of the Animation), Death of Wen Ning/Resurrection as the Ghost General (S2 EP5) | JYL & JZX get married
( -14 years) LATE YEAR 24 - Jin Ling is born in November, about a month later, JZX dies on Qingqi Path / Wen Qing & Wen Ning’s execution and Bloodbath of Nightless City / JYL dies.  
(JC: 18/19, WWX: 19/20) 
Beginning of YEAR 25 - Siege of the Burial Mounds - WWX dies 
(JC: 20, WWX: 21 (deceased) | Jin Ling: 1, Sizhui: 3)
YEAR 25-26 - Massacre of Yueyang Chang Sect / Imprisonment of Xue Yang one month later -  Nie Mingjue insulting Jin Guangyao
(Speculated Age for Xiao Xingchen 17-18, Song Lan: 17-18, Xue Yang: 15-16)
YEAR 26-27 - Trouble in Nie Sect Stone Castles / Speculated death of Nie Mingjue / Release of Xue Yang / Baixue Temple Masacre /  Assumed Death of Jin Guangshan / JGY abusing XY / XY escaping prison / XXC and A-Qing finding XY in the streets
(JC: 22, WWX: Deceased | Jin Ling: 3, Sizhui: 5)
(Speculated Age for Xiao Xingchen 18, Song Lan: 18, Xue Yang: 15-16)
YEAR 28 - Xue Yang and XXC start night hunting together
YEAR 30 - Song Lan confronts Xue Yang, dies / XXC confronts Xue Yang, dies / Xue Yang kills A-Qing / Xue Yang spends 8 years trying to piece XXC’s shattered soul back together
(Speculated Age for Xiao Xingchen 22/23, Song Lan: 22/23, Xue Yang: 20)
(+13 years) YEAR 38 - WWX gets resurrected 
(JC: 33 / WWX techincally 34 | JL: 14/15, LSZ: 16)
(Speculated Age for Xiao Xingchen 30/31, Song Lan: 30/31, Xue Yang: 28)
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